Droning On

12:40 AM

@Daniil Thanks!

1:05 AM

@Daniil Yea! Hoping to get one of my own soon... I'm eligible. :)

Catija

1:24 AM

Looks like maybe 30 days from creation.

Kralc

7:28 AM

@ifconfig I did include my thinking about that edit (-: drones.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/482 "When I think 'rubber band plane' I think of an aircraft using the bands for thrust ... but if enough other users agree to the edit, then fair enough."

Yeah, I heard.

Kralc

No worries, just thought I'd check so you know it wasn't personal!

👍

@Kralc FYI, these are what I was talking about: rcsuperstore.com/hobbico-64-rubber-bands-1-4-lb-approx-100

I can't seem to find a picture of an airplane that uses them :( , but there's one in my garage. :)

Kralc

Yes, I've seen a couple of planes that use them to hold on the wings; I wasn't sure how common that. Although only yesterday I came across an aircraft that uses rubber bands to hold the propeller on!

Lol, yea. All kinds of uses, structural and elastic-powered craft.

The sky's the limit, hehe

Ah, here's one: towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEZHX&P=0

user435118

8:36 AM

@ifconfig Yay, you got the badge. Well done!

user435118

@Catija 30 days is today, so we will wait and see...

user435118

But how did Materials.SE get a room owner before us: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/107323/materials-modeling ?

8:52 AM

@Daniil Manually added by someone: chat.stackexchange.com/messages/54335944/history

An automatic appointment will look like this:

in The Awkward Silence, Oct 29 '17 at 23:36, by Feeds

Tinkeringbell has been automatically appointed as owner of this room. (What does this mean?)

user435118

9:09 AM

@Tinkeringbell That was 123 days after the room started though...

@Daniil Oh, yes... I just picked mine because I knew it was there. TAS had another room owner before that, but they were inactive.

> Automatic appointment of room owners
If a reasonably active room has no owner, or none of the owners have been in the room for a certain time, a new owner may be automatically appointed, to ensure that there's somebody who can administrate.

user435118

What was the first RO, how many days after the room started?

It seems the first automatic appointment was 16 days after the room started.

I found it!

> Update: This is now automated; if none of the owners of a reasonably active room has shown up for a while, the most active user (whose activity must also be above a certain threshold) will be automatically made owner. This logic would also have made ircmaxell owner of the PHP room, hadn't I done it manually.

The exact values are currently: "a while" means 30 days, "reasonably active" means at least 50 messages per day (averaged over 30 days), and "certain threshold" means 10 messages per day (same averaging). But we might still tweak those numbers.

source

y'all are too quiet. Talk more!

user435118

9:26 AM

@Tinkeringbell Let's have a chat then :)

user435118

@ifconfig You too! ^

@Daniil I'm supposed to be working :P Things are almost done compiling, so... it's going to be sloooow chat? ;)

Whoever is going to be appointed eventually might be able to answer V2Blasts question in the comments there ;)

user435118

Maybe these limits should be reduced, say average 30 messages a day?

user435118

@NikeDattani Do you still want me to ping Catija to come into the Materials.SE chat room?

user435118

@Tinkeringbell What do you think about reducing the limits? Should I suggest on meta.SE?

9:31 AM

@Daniil I'm not sure. For a room with less than 50 messages a day, a room owner might not be very needed. 50 is very little!

With this message, today's total is already 44 ;)

user435118

Really, doesn't look like 45

We can count :P 46

47: From now on, everyone shall number their chat-messages :P

user435118

How do you do a strikethrough in markdown? - 48

user435118

Also what do you work as?

50: three times a '-' in front and behind your sentence/word ~~likethis~~

user435118

9:36 AM

Thanks (50 51)

user435118

Um... ^

---likethis---

user435118

Oh sorry, didn't see the three

Now you have 4 after ;)

Yay!

I also lost count :P

I work as a software developer for a big grid operator.

user435118

🎉

user435118

9:38 AM

Ah cool, what language do you use?

Magik

user435118

Never heard of it

user435118

Is it popular?

user435118

I mainly use Python

Depends on who you ask, I guess. It's a very specific language for some very specific tasks. Even gis.se has only 9 questions about it, there isn't much of a community online. I started programming in Java for a year or two. After that I was asked to move to GEO/GIS and learn Magik, given my background in archaeology they thought I might have the necessary grasp on some basics to quickly learn this one... and GE is working on getting rid of Magik and replacing it by Java.

user435118

9:43 AM

I just released we have 1500 messages, and 30 days= 50 messages a day

user435118

But the transcript is showing the room only exists for 29 days: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/106718

user435118

Maybe it will be 30 in the evening, around the time the room was actually created

user435118

We need 35 more messages for 1.5k...

So, that means you've crossed the 1500/30 is bigger than 50 mark.
Given how programmers work, I would say the code probably just divides by 30 and doesn't look at dates (that would explain the 16 days for TAS' first RO, for example).

user435118

People eligible for RO: No-one

9:46 AM

Now you only need one person that has written on average 10 messages a day, so at least 300 in total ;)

user435118

No-one averages 10 a day

user435118

Spam

user435118

Just joking :)

user435118

I need 4 more messages

You seem to have written 297 all time messages in this room... so I guess with a bit more chatter, you might wake up a room owner tomorrow ;)

user435118

9:47 AM

Do you use Python?

user435118

Go to sleep a room owner :)

@Daniil Hmmm. You might have to stay up quite a long time, I think...

user435118

Does the 10 a day threshold need to be upheld after a RO is appointed?

user435118

@Tinkeringbell Why? The room was created around 5pm my time...

Nope. There's no automatically disappointing Room Owners, but if you become too inactive another one may be automatically appointed too.

@Daniil I'm not sure at what time the script runs ;)

user435118

9:49 AM

I stay up till around 12/1 so we will see

1 might do it ;)

user435118

Do you think I should raise the issue on Meta as to whether everyone thinks I am ok as a RO or whether I should appoint someone else?

Nah.

user435118

Ok, I'll just leave it then :)

user435118

> Do you use Python?

9:50 AM

First a.) wait until you're actually appointed, no selling hides before shooting the bear and b.) if people really think you're not, they can make their own meta post :P

No, I've never used Python :)

user435118

Do you think I'm ok?

user435118

I should probably wait till I am though, good idea :)

user435118

I have the tendency to get too excited about something which may not happen and it never does happen

Sure, why not? There's always a learning curve but I think you could take it... and if it makes you feel better to have some backup from the beginning, you can always ask for that.

But indeed, wait first. See how it goes if it does happen... Unless you really don't want to, then you should stop talking now and perhaps if I move some messages to Trash, the script will be confused :P

user435118

lol It's fine, I'll see how it goes

user435118

9:53 AM

You can move messages because you are a mod, right?

user435118

Can I just say you average a high number of votes per post on IPS

Yep. Room Owners can do that too, to an extent. The only special thing moderators have is that we can move messages to moderator only chatrooms, so that no one that's not a moderator can ever read them again.

meta.stackexchange.com/q/271267/369802 is a good overview of what users, room owners and moderators can do in chat moderation.

@Daniil You can. Results are pretty skewed though, given that most of my answers were written when we still had 5 posts a day on HNQ.

If a question doesn't reach HNQ, 3-5 votes are often the average.

user435118

10:07 AM

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, that's mostly the case for me as well on other sites

user435118

12:47 PM

@Tinkeringbell When you tag something on MSE as status-review, do you review it yourself or tag it at the request of CM's?

Q: Our Commitment to Responding to Meta and Moderators

Don't quote me on this but I think mods can put status-review if they need an input from a CM and not really at the request of them

I think there is a topic on Meta

user435118

194

As Teresa mentioned in our Q1 roadmap blog post, the company is working on establishing our commitment to responding on our Meta sites and to our moderators, by setting up a new Meta engagement policy. The goal is to increase staff participation on the various Meta sites, particularly Meta Stack ...

there ya go

@Daniil This one was tagged because I don't know the answer and another mod doesn't either...so we feel it's one of those that can only be answered by an employee.

user435118

@Tinkeringbell Ok, makes sense

user435118

1:23 PM

@Tinkeringbell Can you give me a link to the post on MSE announcing you as mod please?

user435118

Having toruble finding it...

Q: Please Join Us in Welcoming Our New Meta Stack Exchange Moderators!

@Daniil This one?

114

We're really excited to announce the appointment of three new community moderators to Meta Stack Exchange! I know this might come as a really big surprise to some, and I can't wait to talk about it, but let's not delay the introductions any more. Please welcome ChrisF, Tinkeringbell and Journeyma...

discussion meta moderators announcements

or the council one

user435118

@CaldeiraG Thanks

user435118

Yes, that one

@Daniil yw :D

user435118

1:25 PM

I was using all sort of search params and couldn't find it

Q: Why does this search not return expected results?

i just searched tinkeringbell and ordered by number of votes ;)

user435118

Much simpler than my search:

user435118

body:moderator OR body:nominated OR body:nomination is:q closed:no score:100..500

user435118

That should have still worked... not sure why it didn't

user435118

0

I was searching for this post: Please Join Us in Welcoming Our New Meta Stack Exchange Moderators! I searched the following: body:moderator OR body:nominated OR body:nomination is:q closed:no score:100..500 i.e.: The post either contains 'moderator', 'nominated' or 'nomination' It is a q...

support bug search

1:35 PM

@Daniil no clue

it's like reddit search

you get better results searching on google and adding the reddit keyword than using their search engine xD

user435118

@CaldeiraG Agreed xD

@Daniil I'm not sure SE search takes OR for the body operator? The only reference I can find in the advanced search faq references tags.

user435118

@Tinkeringbell I am using Samuel's userscript for search

Hmm. It seems to use (and) instead of (or).

The moderator appointment post doesn't contain the words nominated or nomination.

meta.stackexchange.com/q/160100/369802 < seems to confirm the search is 'and', so now I have to figure out if the 'or' is only for tags ;)

user435118

1:56 PM

By OR I mean if it contains either moderator or nominated etc.

user435118

Not all of them

Yeah, but the search engine uses 'and' by default, and overriding it with 'or' for body searches is not possible at this time.

OR is only for tag searches.

user435118

Ok, thanks

No problem, you're welcome :)

user435118

@Tinkeringbell Sorry for not accepting your answer. Glorfindel's answer just gave a bit more detail

user435118

2:08 PM

No offence

None taken. :)

user435118

I did give it +1 though :)

More detail?! I dug up a comment from '13 for my answer :P

I saw. It's okay, really.

user435118

Can mods see users votes?

Q: Clicking on an admin link for a site where I'm not a mod displays the mod agreement page instead of a 404

No.

user435118

2:10 PM

I thought not, but then what does this link to: stackoverflow.com/admin/show-user-votes/3536342

user435118

From:

user435118

21

When I click on a link to an admin page on a site where I'm not a moderator I see a Moderator Agreement page instead of a 404 page. Example (using my own UserID): Clicking on https://stackoverflow.com/admin/show-user-votes/3536342 displays: The URL gets redirected to: https://stackoverf...

bug status-norepro moderator-tools moderators

A: Could moderators see votes in the past?

But I saw both answers being upvoted + one being accepted at practically the same time ;)

Logical conclusion ;)

15

Diamond moderators can see the same information about votes as you can. In addition, diamond mods can see voting in the aggregate, between users. This is necessary to identify voter fraud. This ability to see voting patterns has been in place for as long as I have been a mod, although the tool...

user435118

Oh ok, so basically just like user x voted for user y 10 times and z 5 times?

Really all I can say is probably in that post: talking about the details too much will make the tools we have too easy to evade.

Run for a moderatorship on this site once the election opens, and you might be able to check for yourself ;)

user435118

2:17 PM

@Tinkeringbell I will, my nomination post is nearly ready ;)

Good luck then!

user435118

Thanks

user435118

4:31 PM

@ifconfig Have you heard anything about Joshua yet regarding featuring the site on YouTube?

user435118

Maybe he could even participate on the site...

user435118

I think it’s time to start thinking about ways we can promote the site

user435118

We are getting some activity at least

user435118

3.85 questions a day in the last week

user435118

We need more traffic from search engines

user435118

4:35 PM

We are getting quite a bit of user account creations though: drones.stackexchange.com/…

@Daniil No, haven't heard back yet. :(

Are those all new users?

Huh

user435118

5:07 PM

Yes, they are newly created accounts

5:56 PM

173

6:10 PM

nice!

IDK where from, but it's great to see!

Oh. I was saying 173 messages today.

But it's definitely great how many new people there are!

6:43 PM

OH!

Wow

user435118

7:59 PM

@JacobB You mean 173 chat messages?

user435118

Does anyone here play pool (either real or digital)? If so I am planning a new SE site for pool. Please ping me if you have interest in setting up the proposal

Q: Pool (the game) site proposal

Huh.

IDK if there's a sufficient community online though...

user435118

There is, 8 ball pool is a massive app

user435118

I contacted them asking them to get some publicity or even sponsorship

user435118

No. 3 on the AppStore for sports

TheSimpliFire

8:04 PM

@Daniil Sports SE already covers these cue sports, although I remember there have been attempts to proposing a new SE site for those

(or more specifically I remember reading a meta post on that)

user435118

I think there needs to be a specific community

user435118

Loads of topics: Cues, the online game, breaks, spin, rules, 9 ball pool, tournaments, tactics etc.

user435118

I’m a big player of the online game

TheSimpliFire

You could post on Sports Meta about this proposal and see what users think

user435118

Will do

TheSimpliFire

8:07 PM

because I can't find the meta post anymore

user435118

0

I was thinking of proposing a SE site about pool (the game). I saw we already have a pool here, which isn’t the most popular. Topics could include: Rules Cues The online 8 ball pool game Tournaments Breaks Tactics Spins 9 ball pool In my opinion, this could do as a separate SE site, what d...

discussion

user435118

I am thinking of making an election chat room where we can discuss the election (when it starts) and ask candidates questions, what does everyone think?

@Daniil yes.

I did mean chat messages

@Daniil I think that's a good idea.

Anyone else think so?

user435118

10:30 PM

@JacobB Great questions by the way

user435118

Really good for adding to our question-base

10:47 PM

@Daniil Thanks!

I try to make questions that will be useful to lots of people.

You also have many great questions.

:)

user435118

Thanks :)

user435118

@JacobB Will you be running for mod?

I'm not sure yet

user435118

You still have time to decide :)

Yeah

user435118

10:56 PM

Waits to be appointed as room owner

:)

user435118

If you don’t know what that is about read from here: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/54363738#54363738

user435118

For context

user435118

@JacobB Do you have many photo entries if we were to run the photo competition?

@Daniil Yeah, I saw that earlier.

@Daniil Not really.

I don't take a lot of photos of things

user435118

11:00 PM

What do you fly for mainly, for fun?

I have a 5 inch drone which I fly most often.

I also have a small drone for when I don't have lots of room.

user435118

Did you join SE only because of the Drones.SE site?

Yeah

I hadn't heard much about it before.

And I wasn't as interested in the other topics.

When did you get into SE?

user435118

September 2018

Cool

user435118

11:06 PM

I was at a coding event, researching help and I found SO. Joined SO and found out about other SE sites

user435118

My accounts were destroyed but I rejoined February this year

Q: For anyone wondering about Daniil

destroyed?

user435118

I do not post that much on SE, mainly review and participate in Charcoal and SOBotics (links in my bio)

user435118

@JacobB Yeah, let me find something

user435118

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---content from him below, approved by CM in TL to post. It’s Daniil from Travel. My accounts were destroyed by a CM so I had to go. Please post this message from me on meta: Hello Travel community, Daniil here. I enjoyed contributing to this site. I am sorry, but I have to go. It’s not my c...

discussion user-accounts users

user435118

11:08 PM

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Q: Announcing my return to Travel.SE

it's Daniil Manokhin, ex-user (89966). Most of you will probably know me. I was an active contributor to Travel.SE and a few other SE sites till I got destroyed on 11th November on 2019 on all SE sites due to the fact I was under 16 and based in an EU country (UK). For anyone wondering about Da...

discussion

user435118

16k rep in the bin, painful

oof

That's unfortunate

user435118

Still fighting to get it back

user435118

I’ll stop at this point :)

Well, I wish you the best of luck if you try more

user435118

11:13 PM

@JacobB Thanks, SE aren’t sure if I’m legally around to return still, they said they’d look into it but they don’t really care

So, about the photo competition...

Is it just pictures about a certain topic?

user435118

I was thinking just 1 pic a month per user?

user435118

Since not everyone may have pics of a specific topic?

Interesting

user435118

Have we decided on a room name?