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6:23 AM
 
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What a pleasant coincidence! :D
 
7:50 AM
@PM2Ring @ACuriousMind A master in electronics on Arduino SE says that there's the option of instead of using .txt, I can use bitmap images. I'm pretty skeptical about this but it's worth asking. He suggests creating bitmap images 128x160 (the size of my display) and overlaying the text in the specific font (I'm not even sure how the whole thing would work) and then sending the bitmap images... it's going to be pretty hard to code, it will be slow and I don't think it's worth it.
I'm asking you for advice, what do you think?
 
user434058
8:08 AM
Ah, reached where I left from...
 
aka, picking up where you left off...
 
user434058
@skullpatrol yup! :)
 
8:55 AM
@JingleBells 1. Never call something "slow" until you've measured it :P Knuth allegedly said "Premature optimization is the root of all evil" and he wasn't too far off. 2. Professional text rendering is very hard to code "on your own" but for any language there should be graphics libraries that do it for you.
Also, modern 3d games render 60 high-resolution frames per second. If you can't render a bit of text in much less than a second, you're doing it wrong
 
What does premature optimization have to do with evil?
 
@ACuriousMind okay, thanks, but I will stick with processing the text on the Arduino. My instincts tell me the bitmaps way is wrong.
@ACuriousMind I'm pretty sure sending plain text through bluetooth is faster than sending bitmap images of that text (plug background)
 
9:12 AM
@JingleBells Sure, it is faster, but the point is whether or not the speed difference matters for you or not.
 
@ACuriousMind I understand what you're saying. But in my case, it's not only about speed, using bitmaps it would disable dynamic font changing, but it's also going to be harder to program (it'll take more time), and eventually the only thing it has that the other method doesn't is a better go-to-previous-page function, which is not that important by itself.
The other method can adapt to different text fonts and sizes and it'll be easier to later integrate images and other stuff.
 
9:30 AM
@ACuriousMind hello?
 
@JingleBells What?
 
@ACuriousMind Don't leave me hanging like that, you do this very often. Just say okay or something so I know that you've read it and the discussion is over. You always just disappear without a word and I'm left wondering if you've went to the toilet or you have read the text...
 
9:46 AM
Jan 5 '16 at 22:43, by ACuriousMind
Jun 17 '15 at 6:43, by DanielSank
I regard online chat as an asynchronous communication protocol :-)
 
All I'm asking for is an "okay" when the discussion is over so I know the person has nothing else to say and I can get it off my mind.
 
@JingleBells What Loong said - I never really have this chat open as the "main" thing I do, I'm usually doing something else, too. So when I "disappear", it's usually because I can't or won't interrupt that other thing right then to respond here.
 
@ACuriousMind Okay, in that case, please either don't start discussions with me if you don't have the time to finish them or send a quick message letting me know that you're busy and you won't be able to continue.
But in the above case, it seems to be that you simply didn't have anything to say, not that you were busy.
 
10:04 AM
Okay, won't talk to you much, then.
 
@JingleBells It's the nature of chat that you will not always get a response to your messages. As much as it is courteous for someone who you've been exchanging messages with to let you know when they stop paying attention, you can't always expect it, and complaining about that can itself be a little bit discourteous.
 
@ACuriousMind Is geometric quantization particularly better than the usual quantization process?
I hear good things but hard to find details
 
@ACuriousMind :(
@ACuriousMind I understand that your time is valuable, but mine is also, so next time, just please send a message. Ur my friend, please don't stop talking to me ;\
'mma watch Fantasy Island hope it's gud
 
10:25 AM
right after saying that your time is valuable
 
Who says watching movies is not productive :D
"I'm enriching my culture" - jinglebells 2020
 
@Slereah Define 'better' :P If you want to quantize more general classical systems than the straightforward ones where the phase space is the cotangent bundle of a position space, you need some sort of generalization of canonical quantization to generic phase spaces
 
@ACuriousMind How does it do with respect to 1) ambiguous ordering 2) selecting a specific vacuum
 
You have essentially two choices for such a general procedure - the more analytic deformation quantization where you really think about "adding back" higher order terms in $\hbar$ to the classical physics and the more, well, geometric geometric quantization
@Slereah It essentially forbids you from even trying to quantize terms with problematic ordering :P
 
@ACuriousMind Well that's a way to do it I suppose
Aren't basically all gauge theories of ambiguous ordering?
Due to the gauge connection
Or does it have allowances for that
Oh wait I guess those terms commute
Hm, what's one that doesn't
Einstein-Hilbert, I suppose
 
10:36 AM
Well, standard geometric quantization doesn't apply to field theories anyway
 
boo
 
because they don't live on finite-dimensional symplectic manifolds
 
Why does ncatlab praise it so much then
Or do they have a fancy quantization
 
I assume they do an equivalent of it - in higher differential geometry - for field theories
 
Question is
Do they really have it
Or is it some non constructive shenanigan!
Here is the functor that magically turns a field theory into a quantum field theory
What does it doooo
$$\mathbf{\Gamma}_X(E) := [\mathbf{c},\mathbf{p}]_{/\mathbf{B}^n \mathbb{G}} = \left\{ \array{ X &&\stackrel{\sigma}{\to}&& V//\mathbf{B}^{n-1}\mathbb{G} \\ & {}_{\mathllap{\mathbf{c}}}\searrow &\swArrow_{\simeq}& \swarrow_{\mathrlap{\mathbf{p}}} \\ && \mathbf{B}^n \mathbb{G} } \right\} $$
Simple enough!
 
11:17 AM
Non-constructive models are basically being the idea guy
"I think it would be nice if we had a functor from classical to quantum theories!"
"You can work out the details"
 
 
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1:29 PM
our site is really behind in terms of quality on fluid mechanics I can see either homework type questions or some old question no new content ma be because people are less interested in the subject i do not know what @ACuriousMind is doing in this?
 
@YuvrajSingh... Why would I be doing anything with fluid mechanics? I know next to nothing about it!
 
why not?
are you not a member of site
 
So are you.
Why aren't you doing anything?
Why did you think, of all people, to ask me about it?
 
I am doing what I can do?
presenting the situation in front of you
i myself decided to motivate people to this topic
it is also a physics part
despite the fact it does not have a big name like other physics topics ,
I need the help of you in this
actually for some time can we allow all the question on fluid mechanics irrespect to anything
@ACuriousMind
 
"anything" means homework?
 
1:37 PM
like if we allow homework and opinion based and all type of questions on this topic
 
@ACuriousMind Does the unlooping of a group into a groupoid turn the individal arrows into objects?
 
to motivate others
 
I guess that would affect the existing quality severely.
 
ie if we have the group $Z_2$ with objects $\{ X \}$ and arrows $\mathrm{Id}, ^{-1}$
Is the unlooping something like $\{ -1, 1 \}$ with the arrows $-1$ and $\mathbb{Id}$
 
@YuvrajSingh... Post on meta if you want to propose changes to site policy. But this idea strikes me as poorly thought out. You haven't really made an argument why fluid mechanics in particular would have a problem or how lowering our quality standards is supposed to make it better
@Slereah The delooping is the groupoid with a single object and one arrow for each group element
 
1:43 PM
Hm
I'm having trouble grasping the difference between a groupoid and a group
 
Fluid mechanics with low quality standards? Sounds like mechanical engineering.
 
@Slereah Well, a group is just an algebraic object
it's not a category or anything, it's just an object in the category of groups
 
I remember seeing Baez explain the difference somewhere hmm
 
and the notion of a groupoid is more general than that of a group
while you can turn all groups into one-element groupoids, you can have groupoids that don't come from a group, e.g. the fundamental groupoid of (homotopy classes of) paths
 
'A groupoid is a generalization of a group, which can be thought of as a collection of groups... a group is a one-object category where all morphisms are invertible. Then, a groupoid is any category where all morphisms are invertible.'
'If you think of groups as the sets of symmetries of certain geometrical objects, then groupoids are local symmetries of geometrical objects. My favorite example of this consists on taking a manifold M and defining a groupoid G as the set of all the local diffeomorphisms f:U-->V where U and V are open sets of M, with multiplication given by composition of maps (whenever it makes sense). '
 
1:48 PM
Traditionally, if you want to deal with the fundamental groupoid, you choose a base point and do stuff with the fundamental group w.r.t. that basepoint. But for non-connected spaces, you're forgetting information by this
 
Is there one object per point in the space?
for the homotopy groupoid
 
2:20 PM
my understand of the Coriolis force that the difference of velocity on a specific circular path around the earth leads to (because momentum is conserved) to a force (which is fictional) that shows that object to drift in a specific direction.
Under this understanding can we say that an object which is on the Equator, that say moves west or east does not really matter but nevertheless stays on that circular path around the equator, does not experiance this effect? the mathematical formula however found on Wikipedia says otherwise.
 
An object which moves along the equator doesn't experience any Coriolis force, if you're working from Earth's reference frame. Only when the object moves towards the poles from the equator, we need to consider this inertial force. Again when you work from an inertial frame you don't need any pseudo forces.
I'd say this is mainly because of the object's inertia - tendency to maintain state of rest or motion, and the differential speed at different points of a rotating body.
 
So why does the mathematical formula given to be $F_c=m* -1 * \omega \times v$ equals something, if we consider that the angle is 90 degrees
 
Isn't that the centripetal force provided by Earth's gravity?
 
that would be omega squared.
I miswrote the formela, there should be a factor of 2 there.
 
2:39 PM
Ceeeeelebrate good times C"MON
 
As of now, I'm not much used to the math behind the Coriolis effect. I just know the reason behind it. So it would be better if you could ask some one more familiar with this. However, I'm sure an object moving along the equator wouldn't experience any Coriolis force.
I think as per Wikipedia I'm incorrect:
> The train travels toward the west: In that case, it moves against the direction of rotation. Therefore, on the Earth's rotating frame the Coriolis term is pointed inwards towards the axis of rotation (down).
 
@MadSpaces Wikipedia explicitly says below that formula how it is - moving west/east on the equator gives you an up/down-wards Coriolis force
 
@ACuriousMind i switched to the english page and you are right it states that there.
 
3:36 PM
I agree that I was incorrect on that part. I thought Coriolis force is a lateral force which causes deviations along the tangential plane. If a force is up/down shouldn't that be called "centrifugal" force (yet another pseudo force)?
Or is it possible for centrifugal and Coriolis forces to act along the same direction? I thought they were independent terms of the overall pseudo force in a rotating frame.
Something like the x,y and z components of velocity of a particle in space.
 
@GuruVishnu By definition the centrifugal force is the fictitious force in the direction of $\omega\times\omega\times r$, and the Coriolis force is the fictitious force in the direction of $\omega\times v$
Now, if $\omega\times r$ and $v$ point in the same direction, you of course get that both forces are parallel
this doesn't mean you should call them differently
 
3:55 PM
Ok. Thank you for the clarification.
 
What's the best book for An introduction to vector calculus
And where can I find good problems of electrodynamics
 
@ACuriousMind Does string field theory, once quantized and expanded, produce perturbative string theory?
Or is it not there yet
 
@rob I hate to say it, I really do, but:
(great answer there!)
 
vzn
4:15 PM
@YuvrajSingh... what is your interest in fluid mechanics? agreed more attn could be put on it around here + in general. it takes time, attn, commitment, expertise, focus etc... all stuff that sometimes seem in short supply among (harried) humans esp on the internet. on the bright side new mod tpg2114 is a professional/ expert, has deep interest, and has made substantial contributions. also you can find some larger/ detailed discussions over the yrs in chat archives :)
 
@Slereah I don't really know much about string fields, I'm afraid
 
I would tell you what it is, but I barely understand :p
Cohomologies are involved
 
Anyone....
 
user434058
@Pole_Star Introduction to Electrodynamics by David Griffiths.
 
but there isnt much to the math part there...
Is there any other book...
 
user434058
4:31 PM
@Pole_Star Wanna try J.D. Jackson? ;P
 
Ok..
Lets see
 
user434058
I have heard that it's mathematically challenging, but that's what I like, though I haven't started it yet.
 
user434058
David Griffiths isn't really hard if you 4read what the author has written carefully and then go solve the problems. So it is good to just revise and brush up your topics.
 
ok..Thank you !
 
user434058
@Pole_Star Purcell is also an option, but I don't know anything about it :P
 
4:34 PM
Yeaah
This was the one
My high school teacher had said this name
But i had forgotten about it.
 
user434058
@Pole_Star Nice! But did he ask you to do this in your high school?
 
no said to study in college
if some was aspiring for emgineering
 
user434058
@Pole_Star ok, alright :)
 
user434058
@Pole_Star Oh, I see, you're an Indian as well...
 
4:56 PM
@Slereah string field theory is boring. Strong-field theory is where the fun is at ;-).
 
rob
@EmilioPisanty I think I'll leave it.
 
 
2 hours later…
7:02 PM
Hello
I have a system that has a balance point, that the object doesnt have kinetic energy at that point.
So, at that point, this object's both potential energy and force acting on it should be 0 right?
Also, system is something like bowl shaped and, it has a ball, marble inside itç
 
7:56 PM
Anyone here can recommend a good text or video on graph theory? It’s been 30 years since I touched this and even that was done lightly. Looking for insight into Hamiltonian and Lagrangian circuits as I want to try some numerical experiments on those.
@Pole_Star
1. depends what you want for vector calc. Multiple good text on math.methods, *v.g* Arfken, or Boas,
2. depends what you want for electrodynamics. See for instance https://global.oup.com/academic/product/modern-problems-in-classical-electrodynamics-9780195146653?cc=us&lang=en
 
8:49 PM
I want to be sure about my result of a question that asks for the moment of inertia of a thin disc with hole.
I found moment of inertia of that gray colored area as $I=\frac{1}{2}M(b^2+a^2)$
I'm not sure about my result. Can you check it please?
 

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