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7:43 AM
@ACuriousMind good morning!
 
7:57 AM
mornin'
Just made it from "asleep" to "in a meeting" in less than a minute, I think that's a new record :P
(though some people don't have a problem quickly going in the other direction even in-person...)
 
When is the cross sectional area equal to surface area?
Like they say for a thick slab with A1 cross sectional area L1 as length V1=A1*L1
Now while applying the Fouriers law for a rectangular slab
Lets say that A11 is perpendicular to the heat conducted
A1*
However for geometric constraints I need to take A1 as the area
Please help me with the problem
 
I don't think there is any shape where a cross sectional area is equal to the surface area, unless by "surface area" you mean the area of one side of e.g. a cuboid and not the total surface area.
 
8:29 AM
Cross sectional area is equal to the surface area when the object is two-dimensional, I suppose
 
8:41 AM
Is someone here interested in a chemistry question?
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Q: Why is the boiling point of ethyl fluoride lower than that of hydrogen fluoride?

Johan LiebertThe book, Solomons' Organic Chemistry (for JEE Mains and Advance), contains the following question: Hydrogen fluoride has a dipole moment of $1.82 \text D$; its boiling point is $19.34°\text C$. Ethyl fluoride ($\ce {CH_3CH_2F}$) has an almost identical dipole moment and has a larger molecula...

 
HF forms chains of hydrogen bonded HF-HF-HF molecules. Ethyl fluoride can't do this because the larger size of the Ethyl group prevents it.
In ethyl fluoride you can only get dimers.
 
So the lower boiling point is due to the absence of hydrogen bonds? @JohnRennie
 
9:00 AM
@JohanLiebert it's because HF effectively forms high molecular weight polymers and EtF doesn't.
 
@JohnRennie ah! Thanks.
Got it.
 
:-)
 
9:27 AM
Why do people care about the Euler numbers/polynomials?
 
@JohanLiebert Just a pro tip for formatting: when you're using mhchem to format structural formulas in chemistry you don't need to use an underscore ("_") for the subscripts. Just type \ce{CH4} and not \ce{CH_4}.
 
@GuruVishnu thanks! I wasn't familiar with that.
 
 
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10:51 AM
Prince Charles caught by Corona!
@JohnRennie
 
@YuvrajSingh... wow. And he's quite old.
 
@JohnRennie yes!
May be 40-44 yes?
 
Prince Charles is 71!
(not 71 factorial)
 
Wow! Quite old, what is age of her highness?
@JohnRennie
 
@JohnRennie 71!=8.5047858856786231752116764423993e+101 (don't know whether it's more than the age of universe)
 
11:04 AM
@GuruVishnu :-)
 
@JohnRennie yes?
 
I don't know the age of the queen, but I imagine it could be easily Googled. I think she is in her nineties.
 
Google does not tell truth!
Some times.
 
If it's something important I usually check a few searches and if they ll agree that means the answer is probably right. In this case they all tell me the queen is 93.
 
Start with Wikipedia @YuvrajSingh...
then use the references given at the bottom of each article
Pal :-)
 
11:40 AM
I'm trying to show that the Olbers paradox is true using a variety of methods
It is quite tedious
Lots of sums and probabilities
 
Will the sky eventually be bright all the time
 
Solution: The Big Bang.
 
Boring and obvious!
I'll try to show the fractal distribution of stars instead
Or, at best, Schwarzschild weird idea of having the universe be the projective space
 
12:11 PM
I think 2020 would turn into the nightmare of the 21st century.(👇)
 
@JohanLiebert Chill, the century has just begun. Plenty of time for other global crises to overshadow this one :P
 
Yeah just let climate change set in
 
@JohanLiebert Hantavirus isn't a new virus, also, medications and vaccines exist for it.
I broke my BIOS writing an X86 bootloader
 
@Slereah It would be a real shame to have all that hard work we put into ruining the environment get spoiled by some lame pandemic instead.
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a real shame
 
1:12 PM
The universe is clearly a twistor in projective space rather than projective space...
 
1:40 PM
@JohanLiebert: In your latest question How to make an envelope of water around a planet, which doesn't touch the planet?, are we supposed to neglect the presence of atmosphere as you have mentioned both inner and outer regions are just vacuum? BTW is that for some kind of radiation protection you're planning to build?
(at least theoretically)
And I suspect the second image is from Dyson spheres (kurzgesagt)?
 
1:54 PM
Has anyone ever solved the EFE for e.g. Eddington or Szekeres coordinates directly without first passing through Schwarzschild
 
@bolbteppa That's Schwarchild Conjecture, I guess...
 
2:42 PM
@AbhasKumarSinha hi.
 
hi bhai :-)
 
@AbhasKumarSinha do you watch movies?
 
yep
@YuvrajSingh... let's chat in general chat, not here
 
2:57 PM
Hello, I am kind of a new guy in this chat room looking for some IITJEE physics-related suggestions. Can I post my queries ?
I mean like is it allowed for JEE related discussion stuff ?
 
@DeepamSarmah problem solving strategy room
 
@AbhasKumarSinha okay, thanks
 
What was the most acceptable experiment which makes the scientist realize about.
The nuclear fusion and fission reaction.
 
@YuvrajSingh... Total 21 days lockdown... 20 days to go...
 
@AbhasKumarSinha I am on!
 
3:12 PM
@YuvrajSingh... Fusion or fission? The experiments were not really related.
 
Considering this expression
$\frac{2 J+1}{8 \pi^{2}} \int D_{m_{1}, m_{1}}^{(j)}(R) D_{m, m_{2}}^{(j)}(R) D_{M M^{-}}^{(j) *}(R) d R$

They say it is possible to change the argument R to RR_0 where R_0 is a constant rotation matrix, since the integral surrounds all the rotations R, and holding the same final result of that integral. How can we prove that?
 
@Loong he said both
 
And I said pick one.
 
Hey I'd like to get a sense for how Hamiltons Principle works if non-conservative external forces are involved. Can someone recommend a book/paper on that? I feel like most of the material only treats the case of no external forces :(
 
@FelixCrazzolara Hamilton principle works in conservative forces tooo...
 
3:32 PM
This is really not what I asked...
 
then what?
 
@FelixCrazzolara non-conservative forces are pretty annoying in an action-based formalism, and in general you cannot apply Hamilton's principle to arbitrary systems. see physics.stackexchange.com/q/20298/50583
 
@ACuriousMind You can trick kinetic energy form.... That's my secret ;)
 
I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
 
@ACuriousMind There's a neat trick to manupulate KE in L = KE - PE to get non conservative forces into work
 
3:44 PM
..and can you describe this trick or, better, give a reference for it?
 
@ACuriousMind no
 
I see. Please don't waste other users' time with such useless replies, then.
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@ACuriousMind thank you!
 
@FelixCrazzolara There's also another post at physics.stackexchange.com/q/342294/50583 showing how to use d'Alembert's principle instead
 
I ultimately would like to understand this formula here. I have do admit that I have no prior experience with Hamilton's principle, but with some googling and the questions you linked it seems to me as if this formula resembles quite closely the principle of least action...but I'd still like to understand how the RHS term is motivated
 
3:50 PM
Ah, you might be using a bit of a different meaning of "Hamilton's principle" - many take it more or less synonymous with "principle of stationary action"
 
Btw. is the principle of least action kind of like an axiom, or is it possible to rigorously motivate it?
 
@FelixCrazzolara You can prove anything from suitable assumption...! You can show that from Newton's $F=ma$
 
@FelixCrazzolara Depends on where you start ;) See physics.stackexchange.com/q/15899/50583
 
Not a single mathematical answer^
k....
very complicated things...
 
I see...got into deep waters here ;)
 
4:01 PM
@FelixCrazzolara If you need a straight-forward informal answer... I may give.
ama go bye
 
4:47 PM
@loong if you say to pick one I will ask for fusion!
 
5:44 PM
@YuvrajSingh... Probably this one: doi.org/10.1098/rspa.1934.0077
first laboratory fusion of hydrogen isotopes
 
6:07 PM
@Loong were you afraid that if you didn't say "laboratory", someone would go WHAT ABOUT THE SUN, EINSTEIN
 
Hm, not really. He asked about an "experiment".
 
Maybe the sun is an experiment
by aliens
 
Could be.
 
3 bottles leave your credit card here
 
6:15 PM
Why the fake picture?
 
it's a GAG
 
At least they could have used Danish krones instead of $ for the fake.
 
made for americans. i guess
 
 
much better, thanks
 
6:25 PM
Is it me or does that store have a terrible shape for a "supermarket" type situation? It seems like a fairly small cylinder; and having a bunch of floors in a supermarket is generally non-ideal
 
13 mins ago, by skullpatrol
it's a GAG
9GAG.com
 
@JMac That's only a small part of the complex: google.com/maps/place/MENY+Hellerup/@55.7278591,12.5767649,214m/…
 
closes at 8 PM?
are they under lock-down?
 
@Loong Ah, makes sense. I actually did a bit of google-fu and I was assuming it had nothing to do with a supermarket at all, and was just made up for the picture; but then I saw that "Rotunden" was actually a building that looked like that. Looks like that building has some random stuff in it (cafe + post office at least), and the actual market is next door.
I was literally about to call total BS, but realized "Rotunden" could have actually been a reference to a round building, so maybe it actually was a supermarket cylinder.
 
 
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7:48 PM
argh why are "if and only if" proofs counted as single problems
gets my hopes up for a shorter hw assignment
 
8:24 PM
I'm really curious about what will happen now with the world's economy? People will get poor, what happens from there? How does the whole thing work?
Some people will loose their jobs, some businesses will be forced to close. Unemployment will increase as well as poorness... what happens after that? If people are poor, wouldn't businesses be forced to lower their prices in order to profit more?
 
 
Will the coronavirus thing be anything close to the Great Depression?
 
8:42 PM
that, quite literally, is the trillion-dollar question
 

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