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12:03 AM
@ACuriousMind good morning! Yesterday I was serially upvoted but it hadn't been yet reversed. So thought to inform you.
 
12:27 AM
@JohanLiebert I got three upvotes in a row yesterday within 13 minutes.
on fairly random answers
 
 
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3:18 AM
@JMac yes those were pretty old questions of mine so and they stopped getting upvote after 3 days of being asked. But suddenly 7 old post were upvoted in very short amount of time. I believe this is a case of serial upvoting.
 
 
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5:15 AM
Hello everyone. I recently read this question physics.stackexchange.com/questions/16160/…. Now can someone tell me that if we have an object of mass say 10000kg and velocity 0.1m/s and a bullet of mass 0.01kg and velocity 1000m/s both have same area of cross section, would the damage on object(which is rigid and cannot move) they have been fired at still be same?
 
6:03 AM
@Physicsfreak hi. The two cases aren't really comparable because they would both do damage but in very different ways.
 
 
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7:09 AM
@JohanLiebert please raise a custom mod flag on one of the up voted posts - that way, all mods can see it. Chat isn't the best channel for this
 
@JohnRennie Sir, since the kinetic energy of both is same they would travel equal distance before coming to rest so what are the other different ways damage would occur?
 
@Physicsfreak Suppose you're standing in front of the 10 tonne object moving at 0.1 m/s. When it hits you it will just push you out of the way and no harm will be done. The bullet will go straight through you instead of pushing you out of the way.
 
7:25 AM
@JohnRennie What if the 10 tonne mass is as small as a bulley
Bullet**
 
@Physicsfreak As long as it's only moving at 0.1m/s it will still just push you out of the way.
Imagine I poke you with the end of a stick at 0.1m/s. It would just push you away.
It you had yoru back to a cliff and couldn't move out of the way that would be different. In that case the stick would spear you at 0.1m/s, which would be a gruesome way to die! :-)
 
@JohnRennie Oh so deciding about the impact of collision merely based on values of momentum and kinetic energy is not useful
 
7:41 AM
Yes
 
@JohnRennie @JohnRennie That was an interesting ans. Thanks sir
 
@ACuriousMind done.
 
@Physicsfreak you're welcome :-)
 
 
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9:01 AM
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Q: Does gravity increase the closer to the core you get?

HingedHDOr does the mantle and crust above you counteract the increase at one point and it actually decreases?

 
9:21 AM
@JohanLiebert I think that's been asked here before.
 
9:51 AM
@JohnRennie I found this question on earth science SE. One thing that surprised me was that many people in the comment were surprised by the Shell Theorem.
 
Non-physicists eh? You have to feel sorry for them :-)
 
@JohnRennie yes. The traffic comes from Stack Overflow.
 
 
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12:37 PM
I’m not able to find the flag option for comments in mobile site.
 
@Knight There isn't one. You have to switch to the full site view for that.
 
@PM2Ring I’m not in situation to use full desktop site, if I give you the link may you please flag it as the commenter is not stopping his comments.
 
@Knight There's a link to the full site view at the bottom of the page. You can use it on a phone.
But you can give me the link if you want to.
 
12:56 PM
@PM2Ring Thank you so much sir. Here is the link
@PM2Ring Sir I was waiting for you from two days, we need you here:
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Q: How can a user participate on Physics Stack exchange properly if the user have some problems with English Language

KnightWe all know users on our PSE come from all parts of the world and it seems obvious that if someone is using the internet he/she must be writing and understanding English properly. But in some countries the web pages are purely in regional language and therefore users from those regions (of course...

 
@Knight I'm sorry, I don't agree that those comments are spam or rude.
@Knight Yes, I read that question yesterday, and I know who you're talking about.
 
@PM2Ring I can explain my points if you wish. Where I’m wrong in my answer.
 
@Knight If there are wrong things in your answer you should fix it. It might not seem like it to you, but David is trying to assist you in fixing that answer.
 
@PM2Ring Sir I fixed t today, that clarification is added today only.
@PM2Ring He is spamming because he is understanding something else from my answer and showing no signs of learning about why wrote it and keeps on commenting “you’re wrong”.
 
1:12 PM
@Knight The term "spam" on Stack Exchange sites means commercial spam: posts intended to obtain some kind of financial advantage, like advertising. Don't use spam flags for posts that aren't commercial spam. Actual spamming carries heavy penalties.
@Knight The OP is asking about the position vector. They aren't interested in that r radius vector that your answer talks about.
 
1:26 PM
@PM2Ring Sir I have explained in my answer what position vector actually mean when we consider rotational motion. Wasn’t it clear?
 
@Knight Yes, that's clear now. But most of your answer is talking about r, and that's not really relevant to the OP's question.
I have to admit that I don't fully understand David's most recent comment: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/530105/…
 
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Q: Derivation of the rocket equation

user572780I have read many different rocket equation derivations but I do not understand them. Here is my derivation: At time $t$, assume we have an accelerating rocket with mass $m$ and velocity $v$. At time $t+\delta t$, the rocket would have ejected post-reaction propellant with mass $\delta m$ at exha...

Does this count as a "check my work" question?
 
1:41 PM
@PM2Ring Sir I was explaining how position vector is often misunderstood in the context of rotational motion.
 
@Knight On mobile scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the "full site" button. Then you can flag comments. To switch back to mobile, do the same thing, but now there is a "mobile" button
 
Fun tip, most phone browsers also have an option to "Request Desktop Site" even if the site doesn't have an actual "Full Site" button.
 
This is also true
 
@AaronStevens I suppose it does, but I decided not to VTC because the OP is asking what conceptual error they made, they aren't merely asking us to locate an error in their algebra. But I guess it's a borderline case.
 
If I'm ever frustrated with a mobile site, I try that and hope that there aren't random elements that break on phones
 
1:46 PM
@Knight Your answer could undergo some improvements. The cool thing about SE is that you can edit your post, not just add to it. So instead of keeping your confusing stuff the same and then adding a "clarification" section, you can just edit your answer to be clear from the beginning.
 
@JMac True, but on these sites that gives you 4 different options, since you can select mobile or full on the site itself independently of selecting mobile or desktop in the browser.
@JMac Trying to improve a suggested edit on a phone is almost impossible...
 
@PM2Ring Yeah haha. You have to "disable responsiveness" or else the entire post doesn't show up
But yeah, if I am on mobile I don't do any reviews/queues
 
@PM2Ring Even just looking at suggested edits can be complicated enough on a desktop. I wouldn't want to review them let alone try to improve them on a phone.
 
On the mobile site, the edit button disappears if there's a pending suggested edit. But if you go to full site, a nightmare begins to unfold. ;) As Aaron said, you have to disable responsiveness, and select the desktop site in your browser. And even then it's a major pain.
 
Right haha
 
1:57 PM
They intend to get rid of the mobile view. I really hope they improve the responsive full site view before that happens. Luckily, the dev Yaakov is happy to receive constructive feedback.
 
Why are they getting rid of mobile view?
 
It's too much work to maintain two views.
 
@PM2Ring It seems like Yaakov is the only person who works for SE who's actually still allowed to listen to the opinions of the community lately.
 
Interesting. I know I tried out the mobile app for a little bit a couple of years ago. I forget why I stopped using it. I wasn't as familiar with the site, policies, etc., so I don't trust the "insight" I had back then
 
@JMac The remaining community managers are good, but there's only so much they can do. Or say...
Here's a recent question related to the demise of the mobile view:
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Q: Please don't completely remove the mobile website, for the benefit of users on slow connections

Sonic the Anonymous HedgehogA Stack Exchange employee just said the following regarding the mobile site: We are actively working on the responsive design that works on both desktop and mobile, based on screen size. Once that is finished and perfected, mobile web will be slated for complete removal. I was recently visi...

@AaronStevens The mobile apps are dead
 
2:02 PM
@PM2Ring Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Practically everyone was made impotent when it came to acting on community feedback.
 
@PM2Ring Well then if they get rid of the mobile view, and there ends up being no good alternative for using SE on mobile, then that might help me spend less time on my phone :P
 
@AaronStevens The mobile apps are dead. The only bug fixes for them are fixes to the API, server side. The apps themselves aren't getting any more fixes, and haven't for some time. But some people still like to use them for some types of notifications, I forget the details.
 
Does anyone know a way to make for numerical stability, when a logarithm is not enough? For example, when you have a function of the type exp(exp(x))?
 
@PM2Ring The app was nice for notifications. You could get a ping when you got tagged in a comment and stuff. The issue is that I found that as annoying as it was useful.
 
Two logarithms? :P
 
2:13 PM
yeah, but usually, when you apply logarithms for numerical stability you use the rule:
log(a*b*c*d*e...) -> log(a) + log(b) + log(c) + ...
But now I cannot just to the same thing, because there is no rule for Log( A + B + C + ...)
 
Oh, I was just thinking log(log(exp(exp(x)))) = x
 
rob
@Kelthar If A >> B, then you can use log(A+B) = log A + log(1+B/A) ~= (log A) + (B/A). But think carefully about your actual goal.
 
 
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3:42 PM
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A: what is the temperature (and pressure) of the oxygen inside an oxygen bottle?

Anthony DeanLiquid oxygen has an expansion ratio of 860:1. This means that as it boils off from -297°F to ambient, it expands 860 times its volume. This is why aircraft have “build-up” coils” that allow the liquid to expand into gaseous form prior to the oxygen breathing regulators. In the LOX servicing c...

Should I remove the last portion of the text where he states that he is from NASA,etc.
 
3:58 PM
@JohanLiebert Yes, see the "Do not use signature, taglines, or greetings." section in the help center
For new users, it's courteous to leave a comment pointing to that help center entry if you edit their answer
 
4:10 PM
@ACuriousMind I am guessing simple tag lines are fine? Like "I hope this helps."?
 
@AaronStevens once I wrote that but after sometime a user removed it from the post. Then onwards I don't write thanks, hope this helps, etc. Also these things don't add much value to the post and any way if the user finds some answer as helpful then they can upvote it and/or tick it.
 
@JohanLiebert I agree, I don't see the point in it. I just see a lot of instances of it, so I didn't know if even that was technically not allowed.
I mean obviously someone writing an answer hopes it helps the person asking it
 
@AaronStevens some users use this as catchphrase.
 
Yeah, I know :)
 
rob
There was a mother meta post a while back to the effect of "maybe being polite actually does serve a purpose, and we shouldn't insta-delete comments that express thanks"
Or an SO.blog post.
 
4:22 PM
@JohanLiebert I assume he included that info to indicate that he knows what he's talking about. But it'd be better to put that info into his profile.
 
@PM2Ring Sir how did you get to know about which user I was talking about in that post? 😁
 
@rob Yeah I can see that point of view. I flag "thank you comments" as "no longer needed" simply due to the policy and the fact that the comment box says not to do it. If that policy changed I wouldn't mind though. Although I do like the idea of comments only being for clarification/suggestions so that they can be deleted once they are addressed. It makes the posts less cluttered
 
@rob Did moderators review the flagged comments today? I flagged some comments today.
 
@Knight You can look at your flags and see the status of them.
 
@JohanLiebert Yes, there's a fairly prolific user who always puts that at the end of his answer. Ideally, he shouldn't do that, but OTOH I don't think it would be nice to get into a confrontation with him about it.
 
rob
4:26 PM
@Knight I'm on mobile today, which makes the flag queue hard to look at. There are some unprocessed flags.
 
Click on "helpful flags" on your profile to see
Although if you are on mobile I am not sure if that button is there or not
 
@Knight You can see the processing status of your flags when you click on the "X helpful flags" line in your profile. Here's a direct link for your users in case you're on mobile.
(I hope that link works for non-mods :P)
 
@PM2Ring yes given that these are present in every post of the said user. I don't think it would be any helpful if someone went on spree to remove them!
 
@AaronStevens Thank you.
 
@ACuriousMind regular users can't see the flags of others.
 
4:29 PM
@AaronStevens It's not encouraged, but I'm struggling to get worked up about that ;P
 
Yes, ACM thank you I saw the status.
 
@JohanLiebert I know, I meant that I hoped that the link worked for Knight
 
@ACuriousMind I'll write up a strongly worded meta post, don't worry ;P
 
@Knight It was pretty obvious. That user has complained in this room and on Physics meta about getting downvotes & having his posts downvoted or closed for being unclear.
 
I knew too
 
4:31 PM
@PM2Ring When did he post in this room?
 
Wow reviewing my of flags: physics.stackexchange.com/a/314652/127931 This really got disputed for a "not an answer" flag? I don't understand how this has 2 positive votes let alone lasted several years. It doesn't answer the question, doesn't explain how it works, and the link broke
 
rob
@AaronStevens I usually remove "superfluous politeness" like thank-you comments if I encounter them in a discussion that has clearly ended --- e.g. one that's been inactive for a month or more. But I don't remove fresh ones because I think it's useful for a user to have a chance to notice they have been thanked. I haven't discussed this with the rest of the diamond mods, though.
 
@ACuriousMind Speaking of flags I have flagged one of the serially upvoted posts. Though if you like then I can add links to others.
 
@JMac Well, it looks like I am on your side on this one
I agree, the answer isn't really an answer without the link
 
4:32 PM
@ACuriousMind I'm really surprised John okayed that. It's really not an answer to what is actually asked, and with the link broken it's essentially a picture saying that they can make a charger out of springs (even though the question was about batteries in the first place, not chargers).
 
BTW it is a bit surprising that such a massive serial upvote went undetected. Should this be called a bug?
 
But it's not that surprising I guess that people miss things in review
 
@JMac when reviewing answers I often find myself thinking it's a terrible answer but it is an attempt at an answer, so I have to click "Looks OK".
That doesn't mean I approve of the answer, it just means it is an answer.
 
@JohnRennie I guess I just really don't see it as an answer here, because they are asking why it's not done, and if it could be feasible/practical to use springs as a battery. An answer saying "I made a charger with a spring" doesn't really answer if it's feasible or address why you wouldn't do it, and it seems to be a charger not a battery anyways, which is also different.
 
I find if I choose the "not an answer" option the mods tend to be unsympathetic so I don't bother these days.
Sadly there is no "it's a sh*t answer" option.
 
4:40 PM
@JohanLiebert Since there are no official specifications for the automated voting reversal, it has no bugs, only suboptimal features ;)
@JohnRennie FWIW, the vast majority of LQ answer flags are processed by the LQ review queue, not by mods.
 
rob
@JohnRennie That option is "downvote"
 
@rob well yes. Though if I downvoted every crap answer I'd struggle to come out ahead :-)
My view tends to be that the bad answers will quickly attract downvotes and the roomba will sweep them away in due course.
 
bowchicawowow
 
rob
@JohnRennie If I weren't on mobile I'd have a more sophisticated rebuttal, but I disagree.
 
@JohnRennie But I guess my point is, in this case it's not even a crappy answer. It is literally not an answer to the question. I have no more information about why you wouldn't use springs as a battery after reading that. I don't even get any information about the feasibility of it because he seems to be making a charger, not a battery.
 
4:43 PM
@enumaris Please today tell me what do you pronounce that “bowchicawowow”
 
I think there are borderline cases, but I don't think this is one of them
 
just like it's spelled :D
 
A charger and a battery are the same. Both convert the mechanical energy in the springs to electricity.
 
bow-chica-wow-wow
 
Oh!
 
4:43 PM
@JohnRennie The roomba does not delete answers for being downvoted!
It only operates on questions
But if the question is positively-scored, it will not be roomba'd, regardless of how low-scored the answers are
 
Hmm, OK, I had the idea I'd seen answers that were deleted by "Community" and I assumed that was the roomba.
 
@enumaris Is this Chinese exclamation?
 
@JohnRennie When a question gets roomba'd for low score and age, all answers are deleted by community, too. The only other "deletion by community" is for spam or r/a flags
 
@JohnRennie But without knowing how this operates, it's not clear if it's even storing energy, or if it's just just springs as part of the energy transfer. A charger is very different than a battery, at least definitionally, because one stores energy and the other just transmits it. Plus no one else even DV'd the answer so it still looks like it's well received even though it's almost objectively bad.
 
@Knight you haven't seen phineas and ferb?
 
4:46 PM
Anyhow the no. 1 most annoying thing about reviews, by a long way, is the 20 review limit. And that's obviously here to stay since years of moaning about it have had no effect.
 
@JohanLiebert No
 
But if the question has only a single positively-scored answer, it won't get deleted regardless of the number of other low-scored answers
 
@JohanLiebert By the way, was I able to clarify myself in that answer?
 
@JohnRennie I agree. And yet I can currently raise 100 flags a day now, which I never get close to that. I feel like there should be at least some sort of increase for trusted users. Or maybe a separation of posts you are the first one to VTC and the posts you VTC in the queue
I don't like VTC too much in the queues because then I can't VTC new questions if I have used up all my votes in the queue
 
@Knight I realized that what I said was already clarified in your post therefore I deleted my comment. After that I haven't yet compared it with other post. Nor I was able to think what $\omega \cdot r$ might mean so I can't say much about it.
 
4:52 PM
@JohanLiebert :) thank you brother and one of my flag for Mr. David Hammen even got accepted.
 
rob
@AaronStevens If you have used up all your close votes, can you still cast "should be closed" flags?
 
@Knight Comment flags get marked as "helpful" when the comment they refer to is deleted. In this case you should not interpret this as the moderator handling the flag agreeing with you - the comment was deleted because the comment it referred to was deleted.
 
@rob I feel like I tried that, and the button just takes you to the VTC option, which is no longer an option for that day
 
@Knight yes I think he was a bit rude. He could have pointed out something (if any) in much more gentler manner. Anyway rudeness of a high rep is what lead to the fragmentation of the earlier Physics. SE community.
 
There is nothing rude or inappropriate about David voicing his opinion that your answer is incorrect, regardless of whether it actually is correct or not.
 
rob
4:56 PM
@AaronStevens Well, that's dumb. I think I understand why it works that way, but I dislike it.
 
@rob I am in the same boat :)
 
rob
It's an argument for our site to pursue the three-close-vote experiment, which stalled due to staffing changes at SE.
 
So I usually try to do about half of my votes in the queue and then that reserves the other half for if I encounter a new question I think should be closed
 
@ACuriousMind I wasn't saying about the comment where he talked about the answer rather where he questioned why it even got upvote.
 
@ACuriousMind Yes I totally agree with that, but He is showing no signs for understanding about what I’m saying. You see @JohanLiebert he got me in just one go, Jalfred (he commented) has not replied till now and we can assume that he got satiated.
 
5:00 PM
In any case, chat is not the place to discuss the (lack of) politeness of other users on the site, so let's drop this for now.
 
@ACuriousMind you can delete our conversation if you want.
 
Yes I agree with that.
 
@JohanLiebert I don't think that's necessary (and I don't need your permission for that anyway).
 
@JohanLiebert Would you do me a favor?
 
@Knight yes?
 
5:03 PM
@AaronStevens Back when I wasn't a mod I always first went through the new questions to VTC "fresh" ones and only spent the remainder in the queue. But, yes, sadly, on many days there weren't enough votes at all.
Apr 10 '15 at 17:29, by ACuriousMind
In contrast, exhausting my close votes every day does not make me feel victorious :(
 
@ACuriousMind I feel like I would be fine with about 20 VTCs in the close queue and 20 VTCs for questions that currently have not VTCs on them. But maybe that is too much power :P
 
@ACuriousMind @AaronStevens a helping hand is coming soon. You can ask me if yours are depleted (after I have rep $\gt$ 3k)!
 
@JohanLiebert I am not so concerned with making sure the queue is cleared as much as I am of just running out of votes in general. But thanks for the aid :)
 
@JohanLiebert Please keep a good eye on user Semoi. Just observe him.
 
@AaronStevens It would lead to a weird side-effect where people could effectively do 40 reviews by opening the first twenty questions from the queue in a different tab and vote on them there
Oh, you meant question with no VTCs on them yet, hmm...
 
5:08 PM
@ACuriousMind That's why I said for questions without any VTCs
:)
 
@Knight nope...pretty american
 
Oh! Nice
 
@Knight why? What happened? I don't track other users.
 
@Knight You may not realize how ominous that sounds, but it does. Please don't ask users to "observe" other users.
 
omg I have to listen to an interview I gave to make sure it's Ok to publish...
 
5:12 PM
@AaronStevens I have a feeling there's a downside there I'm not seeing but I'm not fundamentally opposed to that idea.
 
i hate listening to myself...
ughhhhhhhh
 
run it through a voice distorter, then :P
 
@enumaris bowchicawowow
 
Maybe auto-tune it
 
@ACuriousMind I'll think more about it
 
5:13 PM
@AaronStevens In any case, that's not a change we could make without help from SE, so...don't get your hopes up.
 
shoot me now
 
@ACuriousMind Yeah, good point :)
 
@ACuriousMind @JohanLiebert What happened? I told to keep an eye on him because he is doing so good, I really didn’t understand what was the need of the word “omniuos” here. Just observe that Semoi, he is working too good.
 
dam I sound...dumb
 
Can you send us the link of that interview? Or if I give you my email can you provide it to me? If it’s not illegal to do that.
 
5:15 PM
@Knight "Just observe that Semoi, he is working too good." That also sounds like a criticism.
 
@Knight Oh! But it really didn't sound that good when commented. It looked like I am a CBI agent and you have hired me to look at a particular users. 😂
 
@enumaris Sooo...is that "OK to publish" or not? ;P
 
@PM2Ring How? Okay three people have told me that it sounded unconventional so I believe that something must be wrong with that. All right?
@JohanLiebert I told you that because we sometimes do informal talks so you know it was just friendly.....
 
@Knight It was the initial way you said it. Without context it sounds odd. You could have said something like "Semoi has lately been making some pretty good posts. You should make sure to look out for more of his posts."
 
The line about doing you a favor is mostly at fault here, I think - when someone says "Do me a favor and keep an eye on X", X is usually something that leads to trouble, not something good. (And I'm not quite sure how this is doing you a favor in the case when X has no potential for trouble)
 
5:25 PM
@Knight it came like surprise element so I didn't knew what to say and how to interpret it. But I believed that you had good intentions. But it still seems a bit odd. :-)
 
@enumaris 混高兴认识你
Damn, lotta people online
 
@ACuriousMind What does this means? Did he delete his own comments, is that what you were saying?
 
@Knight Yes
 
@Knight I didn't say it sounded unconventional. I said it sounds like a criticism. Like you're suspicious of him, for some reason.
But as I said a while ago, I often find your use of English rather strange, and you often say things that are misunderstood, or you misunderstand other people.
 
@AaronStevens Why he would do that? He challenged me that he wouldn’t, did he get a notice that his comments were flagged?
 
5:30 PM
DAaamn, a lot of people online duddde, new record?
 
@Knight I don't think you get alerted that a comment of yours is flagged. I can't say why they deleted it.
 
@PM2Ring hahahaha, sir when I misunderstood other people? It would nice to know. I really respect you therefore I asked you to see that post of mine in meta.
 
@Knight Uhhh, no, but I used "referring" there in a confusing way, I'll admit. The following happened: You flagged comment B. Comment B was a reply to comment A. A was not aimed at improving or clarifying the post (it was your comment telling him you'd flag his comments - don't do that, by the way, just flag), so it was deleted. B no longer made sense, so it was deleted, too.
 
oh, I guess I misunderstood. So a mod did delete it, just not for the reason flagged
 
Okay now I have got the whole thing.
 
5:32 PM
@NovaliumCompany Not by far, there isn't even a second row of users on my screen.
 
@ACuriousMind uks
 
ACM so, did you finally bought that algae noodle or not?
 
@NovaliumCompany hen* not hun*
 
@enumaris damn it
 
@ACuriousMind still listening to it...
 
5:34 PM
@Knight When you first started posting in this room I assumed that English is not your mother tongue. But you said that you were born in the USA. So I was puzzled why your English is so bad. But after reading that meta post of yours I get the feeling that English may not be the only language you speak at home.
 
@NovaliumCompany I don't know what that means
 
@enumaris 对不起
@ACuriousMind Okay thanks, but really f*cked up
 
Anyone has seen that video of Jimmy Kimmel (in which he is dressed as pig)? I believe that the girl were actors rather that being unaware of the case. Anyway what he did was psychologically wrong if the kids were unaware.
 
@NovaliumCompany ::harrumph:: kids these days...
 
@JohanLiebert I love Jimmy Kimmel! I watched like 10 videos today
 
5:35 PM
@PM2Ring Yes sir, we speak my fathers regional language in our home and with our relatives.
 
@NovaliumCompany ever seen this:
 
@JohanLiebert I'm watching it now
 
I got a very tough question for you all. I have never seen a kitten making a sound like : purr purr : did you people ever see that?
 
@JohanLiebert Didn't you just recently post this?
 
@Knight they do make that sound when they are angry (I think )
 
5:37 PM
@Knight My cat does this all the time. It means it feels good and calm.
 
@AaronStevens yes I did.
 
@JohanLiebert Cats usually purr when they are in a good mood.
 
@JohanLiebert That's hissing, not purring.
 
@Knight So why didn't you tell me that before?
 
@NovaliumCompany ::purr:: I have never observed this sound, they do something like ::meow::
 
5:38 PM
@JMac I don't have a cat. But my neighbor's cat makes that sound when she sees me. 😂
 
@PM2Ring When?
 
@Knight When I'm petting my cat and it feels calm and happy and relaxed it starts purring.
 
Some cats will purr if you look at them nicely, others only when they're really relaxed and content. Like humans, they vary greatly in their expression of affection :P
 
@JohanLiebert Those kids seem fine
 
Today I learned that humans eat other human’s liver as a tasty food. Before this I only know that humans eat brains of other people (figuratively)
 
5:40 PM
@Knight you can search for "cat purring" on YouTube.
 
@JohanLiebert Jimmy looks like a perverted pig but I don't see something particularly wrong
 
@JohanLiebert If it's purring it's probably just looking for attention and someone to pet it (though I wouldn't recommend petting random cats as some can be pretty aggressive)
 
Jan 8 at 9:24, by PM 2Ring
@Knight I find your use of English a little unusual. I assumed that English wasn't your mother tongue, so I was a little surprised when you said you were in the USA.
 
My brother's cat always attacks me. Sometimes I end up bleeding. So fun
 
Growing up, we had an old grumpy cat that I only ever heard purring when one of us was sick. He'd climb up to the "patient" and start purring loudly. The rest of the time, you could be happy if he didn't claw at you :P
 
5:42 PM
@AaronStevens @NovaliumCompany the video was very funny LMAO
 
@PM2Ring Sir English and that regional dialect both are taught to me. So, therefore I assumed that it was right to say that English is one of my mother tongue.
 
@AaronStevens My cat was evil. He would relentlessly attack anyone who didn't live in the house, and would still sometimes attack us. I miss the guy, but not having an arm full of cuts is nice.
 
@JMac Yeah I had a nice cat growing up. My brother's cat doesn't like anyone except him and his wife. They are going to have a baby in May, so we will see what happens then :P
But yeah... I will just be sitting at the table and then all of a sudden my arm is getting clawed
 
@Knight mother tongue is what you learn unconsciously just by observing your mom and dad speak it.
 
@Knight Yes, but I was trying to understand why your English is not very good, and that answer didn't help me.
 
5:46 PM
@PM2Ring hahahahaha On what other forums you participate?
 
@Knight Why do you keep laughing at PM2Ring? I don't see anything funny.
 
@AaronStevens Do you think I’m mocking him?
 
@AaronStevens hahahahaha good one.
 
@Knight So you led me to believe that either you were just very bad at communicating, or that you were simply lying for some reason. That's probably not what you intended...
 
Hahahahahahaha
 
5:48 PM
Knight has deceived people in the past though
 
But not me.
 
@Knight It does kinda come across as mocking. I know it's likely not your intention, but it's kinda weird in the context.
 
@PM2Ring I didn’t get this one sir. Your last sentence is very hard for me to understand.
 
So anyway... Anyone else going to the APS meeting in March?
 
Not an American, not a physicist :P
 
5:52 PM
am the former, not the latter
 
Not an American, not a physicist
 
@Knight Did you want me to think that you're a liar, or that you have bad communication skills?
 
I like how google shows me "Arizona Public Service" before "American Physical Society". Yes google, I'm looking up power companies in Arizona for some reason...
 
@JMac Same haha.
@ACuriousMind Eh, still come :P
 
@PM2Ring hahahahaha I want you think that I am a very good man.
 
5:54 PM
This is what I get:"autoimmune polyglandular syndrome"
 
@Knight Honestly, at this point it does look like you're mocking him. Stop that.
 
@AaronStevens A Canadian Engineer(ing graduate) is the same thing as an American Physicist, it's just a regional translation right?
 
I get "APS Germany", a catering provider :P
 
@JMac Of course
 
@ACuriousMind If PM2RING sir thinks that I’m mocking him (I want his view on this) then I shall do accordingly what’s need to be done
 
5:55 PM
@AaronStevens Probably something to do with french or spanish.
 
@JohanLiebert Second hit for me is a different autoimmune disorder. There sure are a lot of APS's around
 
@Knight So you should have explained that English isn't your only language. And then I would have been more tolerant of all your grammatical errors and strange ways of expressing things.
 
I really hate when people order me to “Stop that”.
 
@PM2Ring Please first tell me are you talking friendly to me or did I do something which caused an irritation to you? I beg your forgiveness if I have ever done something wrong to you.
 
5:59 PM
This isn't English.SE, so feel free. Minor grammatical mistakes are ignored here.
 
@JohanLiebert They're often ignored if they can be, but sometimes bad grammar/word choice can lead to conversations where two people wind up talking about different things right past each other.
 
@JMac yes you are right.
 
@ACuriousMind whoop, gave the OK to publish...hopefully I will never see this video again
 
Hmm, how much does a video ad in front of your office cost...
 
highly variable
 
6:04 PM
10 million zeni
 
@Knight You didn't irritate me, exactly. I assumed that you didn't intend to mislead me, but I got the feeling that you weren't being completely honest with me.
 
@enumaris (read this in a Morgan Freeman voice for maximum effect) "Little did enumaris know that the video he made was about to become the biggest internet meme of all time."
 
well it's only released internally to my company so there's little chance of that...unless there's a leak or something lol
 
If it's any consolation, the other video I've seen you in wasn't terrible :P
 
@PM2Ring Sir there you see, you are talking to me for my sake (lying to you may result me losing a great man like you) but see other people here they are thinking that I’m mocking you. I knew you were talking about my goodness only otherwise why will a self-taught mathematician would spend a time on me.
 
6:07 PM
"wasn't terrible" XD
 
@JohanLiebert What JMac said. Chat is a little more relaxed than the main site, but we still need clear communication here, especially when we're discussing technical matters. On the main site, answers and questions should use good English.
 
So like scale of 0-10 where 0 is terrible and 10 is awesome, that video is at least a 1?
 
At least, yes!
 
haha
 
@PM2Ring I was just trying to ease up the situation. :-)
 
6:11 PM
@Knight So you need to improve your communication skills (and your English grammar) so that these misunderstandings become less likely. ;)
 
Videos of yourself are so weird to watch when you rarely record yourself doing anything. I had to do a little interview video with a company we work with and when I watched it again it was just so weird seeing a recording of myself. After all these years I still find it so jarring to hear myself recorded and played back to me.
 
watch more american TV
 
@PM2Ring Yes sir I will work on that.
 
Though it might be just me. Sometimes it is hard to interpret the emotions of the writer through mere words.
 
@JohanLiebert Understood.
 
6:12 PM
@JMac yes...I recently had to watch myself in a video over and over...it was jarring every time lol
 
@Knight Excellent.
 
@JohanLiebert ain't just you
 
@enumaris Yeah I was helping a company we work with make a video on what it's like to collaborate with them. Going back to review the footage to decide if we would use it was so awkward. Especially stuff like "you're sitting awkwardly in the chair, so try not to do that next time". So then you're like distracted by the way you're sitting for the next try.
 
lol
There were very obvious parts where I was really trying to think of an answer and could not respond immediately...it sounds so horrible to me
like "obviously this guy is bullshitting"
But I promise I actually know my stuff...it's just the language to express it didn't come immediately XD
 
@enumaris We had movie magic on our side. Basically we did like three runs, first one was like ".... uh.... well... um..." but by the third try I basically had a script in my head. Thankfully it was also only like 2 mins of footage.
 
6:17 PM
I had no script per-say for this one
with a script there's a different set of challenges...like forgetting the script...
 
I am quite familiar with the forgetting part. :-)
 
*per se
(sorry, pet peeve)
 
oh yes
per se
par-say?
it's dangerous revealing your pet peeves in chat
cus you know the next time I'm gonna say it as "pare-say"
and par-sai, etc.
 
Google is translating "per se" as "by foot" 😂
 
lol
 
6:21 PM
Always a relief when Skynet fails at something like that :P
 
@JohanLiebert What language?
 
Skynet is srsly becoming reality man...yesterday I saw another article about how the army is using ML on infrared imagery to do facial recognition in the dark
Terminators gonna be like predators
 
@JMac hindi. It might have translated it as such because Hinglish is quite popular in India.
How to embed Wikipedia article in chat?
 
@JohanLiebert Just post the link with no other text.
 
@JohanLiebert I think if you link just to it it will show up
 
@JohanLiebert Remove the mobile probably
 
The normal version, not the mobile.
 
Hinglish, a portmanteau of Hindi and English, is the macaronic hybrid use of English and languages of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal, involving code-switching between these languages whereby they are freely interchanged within a sentence or between sentences.The word Hinglish is first recorded in 1967. Other colloquial portmanteau words for Hindi-influenced English include: Hindish (recorded from 1972), Hindlish (1985), Henglish (1993) and Hinlish (2013).While the name is based on the Hindi language, it does not refer exclusively to Hindi, but "is used in India, with English words blending...
 
Ah thanks I got it.
Let me try it somewhere else.
 
It's called one-boxing. It also works with a reply, but not if you just use the @UserName syntax.
 
6:30 PM
How do you people point out to a specific comment with those arrows? I am currently using mobile version.
 
@JohanLiebert Click on the post you want to reply to. A menu will pop up at the top of the page. Select the arrow in that menu.
 
@PM2Ring thanks. I never tried that feature on .
 
BTW, there's a Sandbox chatroom where you can experiment with stuff. You can sometimes run into interesting bots that people are testing in there. chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/1/sandbox
 
@PM2Ring I usually go to meta sites when I want to know how some feature works but it sometimes gets hard because I don't know what to call many of these things.
Bye Goodnight.
 
@JohanLiebert Yes, it's hard to get help with something when you don't know what it's called.
Goodnight, @Johan.
 
6:55 PM
What do I do if I have a job offer for one position, but I am not done interviewing with other positions?
 
Depends very much on how much you want that job vs. the others, and on how long they'll wait until they offer it to someone else, I'd say
 
@ACuriousMind It isn't my first pick
 
Generally job offers don't last all that long..but I mean you could also accept the offer and then if you get a better offer soon, then tell them no.
It does happen
You can still back out after accepting an offer
Maybe not the most "polite" thing to do
 
Yeah, I don't think I would feel good about that though
 
but it does happen
well then you have to decide
 
7:00 PM
So I have my last interview Feb 17 & 18
I currently have 2 offers. Depending on how this final one goes I would have 3 offers
 
Well, you can ask the recruiter when is your deadline for a response
word of caution: sometimes (not often, but sometimes) offers do get rescinded
 
@AaronStevens Did you get an offer from your school bio department?
 
so you know...it's not like accepting then backing out is a "huge" no-no
cus companies will pull that shit on you lol
 
@JMac Yeah, a while back. I think they understood that it was early in the process of when interviews normally take place, so I don't think a reply was warranted.
I said that like they emailed me an offer and I never replied haha. When we talked in person they said they would love for me to join the lab. I forget what all was said, but I know the idea was that they knew it was still early on
@enumaris Yes, I know
I just got the email from the position I was just talking about today, so I figure I have some time to think things through
@JMac I probably will want to go over and talk to them again just to reaffirm the offer, make sure I fully understand all that I would be doing, etc. just to make sure I still think it is a good fit
 
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