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12:38 AM
@CanadianLuke Or the final patch will be an "accidental" upgrade to 10, whether you like it or not.
 
1:19 AM
...welp, updated Astaroth to the latest system firmware (UEFI BIOS). Precision Boost Overdrive now works as intended, and power metrics are appearing as they should in Ryzen Master.
Even with PBO engaged in the BIOS, I can cap the processor power in Ryzen Master to as low as 71W.
(The ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Extreme has a power limit of 395W and current limits of 255A.)
At 71W, I'm getting a Cinebench R20 score of 5664. The performance per watt is absolutely astounding.
Max power draw is in the realm of 180-200W, depending on cooling capability (Precision Boost 2 will increase power with less heat).
My highest Cinebench R20 score yet? 9568.
 
1:42 AM
Put the system to sleep, gave the liquid cooler loop a bit of time to cool down. Cinebench R20 now returns 9621.
I would probably need to force the cooler's radiator fans to run at max speed constantly to get much better than this...
Single-threaded result? 510. Just wow.
It gets even better: 9663 multithreaded score.
 
2:32 AM
Well, that was fun.
I don't like pushing the CPU that hard all the time, though. That's going to degrade it very quickly...
Precision Boost Overdrive is like removing a car's 142 mph governor and driving it in excess of 200 mph on an oval track.
(142W is the default PPT limit)
Fortunately, I can drop that down to as low as 71W.
I'm not hot-rodding this (very expensive) processor unless I actually need the extra speed.
And it took a 280mm liquid cooler with its fans running at max speed plus a high-speed 120mm fan running on the exhaust side (Noctua NF-A12x25 5V, overvolted to ~8V) to achieve this level of performance. At least the VRM never got particularly hot.
 
3:24 AM
Hello all, and goodbye. I have submitted my resignation as a moderator. I'll still be around, but haven't been active in quite some time, and with the recent changes from Stack Exchange corporate I felt it was time. Hope you're all well.
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Q: Ending my tenure as a superuser moderator

nhinkleTo the superuser community, I have officially submitted my resignation as a superuser moderator to the community team. I would like to thank everyone who I have collaborated with over the years – my fellow dedicated moderators; all my fellow computer lovers who have contributed their knowledge,...

 
Farewell, @nhinkle. It's been a while...
 
Indeed it has, which is partially why. It's been a long while since I was active anyways.
Life comes at you fast :)
I'll always remember the golden era of SE
Many an afternoon when I should've been studying haha
 
Yup. And I get the impression that SEI is financially unstable as recent moves reflect a company desperate for money.
 
It's hard to tell what their true motives are
Considering the community is their biggest asset, and they seem bent on destroying it
Perhaps all companies have a certain maximum growth limit before they become corrupted
It's certainly a very different place from where it started
 
Nov 30 '18 at 4:19, by bwDraco
It gets very, very hard to balance demands between shareholders and customers once a company grows past the midsize business stage.
 
3:37 AM
Kind of too bad they didn't go the non-profit route like wikimedia
(Not that wikipedia isn't rife with its own community management issues)
and of course that isn't Jeff's style , it never would've happened like that
but I do wonder how things might have been different
 
Past a certain point, your focus has to shift towards the shareholders (or potential investors). In most lines of business, a customer focus limits your revenue and could even get you sued if you're publicly traded (arguing shareholder primacy under Dodge v Ford Motor Co.).
And from the rumors that SEI is preparing to go public... this is probably their line of thinking.
Otherwise... it's a sign of SEI running out of money and on the verge of collapse.
 
Bob
4:12 AM
@nhinkle Thanks for everything!
I think you were the first mod I interacted with :)
@nhinkle Oh, and - would you like to join us over at the Matrix chatroom?
 
4:33 AM
I thought only my one crazy friend who switched to it from irc used matrix
do people actually use it?
@jcrawfordor look other people are trying to get me to use matrix!
 
Bob
@nhinkle We do! :P
(and apparently Mozilla is shifting all moznet IRC over to Matrix this year so... I guess?)
 
5:29 AM
Wait trying to? 😁
@nhinkle all the fun stuff happens on matrix
@nhinkle we have had it in active use for a while.
Actually it's a little more active than here
 
Ben Popper on January 14, 2020

Software is eating the world, but what’s on the menu for dessert?

This week we chat about the best way for engineers to give feedback to executives. Paul explains the Purple room method they use at Postlight. Sara references Zero to One and why engineers and marketers have so much trouble communicating.

As a member of a marketing department , it’s true our job is to see the glass as half full. But sometimes the point of the exercise is to be aspirational. Police learn how to be suspicious, marketers learn how to sell, and engineers look for what’s broken so they can fix it. …

 
 
4 hours later…
9:21 AM
me looks at @JourneymanGeek
you advertising our sekets?! :D
 
Thank you for your contributions to the site and community, @nhinkle
 
9:39 AM
I received SMS that I am gifted 850K British Pounds in the Unilever awards. They instruct me to visit www.unileverweb.com and use my key they have given me to claim the prize.
 
@Boris_yo That is a scam. Do. Not. Engage.
No one has that kind of money lying around to just "gift" to strangers.
That is not the legit Unilever site.
 
@rahuldottechsupportsMonica Yeah, their website looks dodgy too.
 
 
1 hour later…
10:58 AM
aint no body got time fo' dat.
 
 
5 hours later…
3:44 PM
I wish my 'burn' button did it for everyone.
 
flag as spam, you say
 
I have 3 rooms asking for that to be deleted
 
Tah
 
Y'all probably won't miss that
 
...miss what?
;-P
 
4:42 PM
So it kinda crazy or what that editing genes is baaaasically like messing around in regedit, but for humans?
Or, gpe?
@djsmiley2kindarkness You can hide messages for the user "Blog bot"
 
@rahuldottechsupportsMonica except it's really not
at most it's a very complicated sed replacement, where you can only match specific start and end strings, and you have to hope you can fnid your start and end strings in the right place in your document, for it to make sense...
 
yeah duh it's much more complex 'twas jokez etc etc
 
:O
wut
> YouTube's head of gaming Ryan Wyat said: "Gaming on YouTube just had its best year yet [and] 2020 is poised to be even better than 2019."
wut
didn't they close gaming.youtube.com the start of 2019?
No, march, hahah
 
 
2 hours later…
Jul 17 '16 at 21:00, by Ben N
Oh hey, it's time for some Windows Updates! <game show music>
Final Patch Tuesday for Windows 7!
 
7:24 PM
@JourneymanGeek I'm a bit confused by the article
> While these were once available only by subscription, the company — now defunct — has left them available for download via this BitTorrent file.
...
> However, as you might expect, the site is overloaded, so expect to not get them all in one swoop. We were surprised they didn’t make them available as torrents.
Get ArchiveTeam on the case?
 
further down
someone has a torrent
 
Aye
But the article says they (3dbuzz) themselves both did and didn't provide a torrent
so article, much confuse
 
I linked that so I can find the torrent when I ger home :D
 
Everybody knows torrents are only for Linux ISOs ;-P
I call heresy
 
 
2 hours later…
9:13 PM
errr
there go you, all the files :d
 
Jeez... how big is the full archive?!
 
Actually if I have the space I may torrent and seed anyway 😁
 
9:41 PM
@MichaelFrank 200G ish people were saying
 
10:08 PM
i wish i had got my arse in gear earlier and sold those win7 PCs
 
10:34 PM
you can still update them :D
 
For free!
 
To Ubuntu!
 
well yes
but windows 10 updates allegedly still work
 
11:07 PM
I have friends who refuse to budge off 7
for various reasons
Did I already ask about the trustworthiness of sandboxing browsers?
 
@bertieb I will stay on Windows 7 till I can afford a new computer. Then probably will go Windows 10.
 
Fair dos
 
@DavidPostill I kinda upgraded even the machines I was planning on keeping on 7 so I could use the digital entitlement if I wanted to upgrade later
(image, upgrade, reimage :D)
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, but I don't have a 2nd PC - if the upgrade screws up ...
Or the time to waste trying to fix it if it does ...
I've just moved house and have a lot of stuff to do with not much free time ...
I've spend the last month furnishing my flat from scratch, all the furniture, everything for the kitchen, and all the other stuff you need to buy. I only had my clothes, some books and CDs and my laptop. So I'm officially broke.
I managed to do it for about £3000 (with second hand furniture) so I think I did quite well :)
I still have to buy a washing machine ...
 
@DavidPostill or the time to fix it is more the thing
ya, I need to work that out in 2 years ._.
 
Bob
11:35 PM
@DavidPostill That's what the image is for :P
Drive image/restore doesn't take much interactive time.
Most of the time taken is waiting (a couple hours at most, usually), so if you can spare 10 mins to kick off the start, you can go do something else.
 
@Bob and I backup anyway
 
Bob
But that does assume you have the hardware to take an image to. Which might not be the case, idk.
 
And the familiarity with a drive imaging tool
 
Bob
I kinda wish we all lived in the same city cause I'd totally give you an external HDD or something
 
11:38 PM
@bertieb That I can pick up.
 
psht, this is probably the twenty first century, just email him it?
 
Bob
@bertieb nah, don't need familiarity, there's good ones that have a wizard you can click through in a couple steps
 
I meant more in the sense of having the time etc to get to the place where you trust what you've done
 
Bob
I do kinda assume everyone in here can read/follow a wizard :P
 
any monkey can punch a wizard
 
11:39 PM
@Bob I have a spare 2TB Seagate Portable Expansion Drive (USB)
 
but it needs a... smarter monkey to trust a wizard
All I mean is I get not wanting o trust one's only working machine to an unknown process
 
What software do you all recommend for Windows image backup/restore? I'm guessing I don't need the same size drive. But I will need a bootable drive, right?
 
I know that's a false economy in the case of disaster, but ykwim
 
@Bob lol
 
Investigating software, running it, testing it takes spoons
 
11:41 PM
@DavidPostill not really
you have your backup(s) on one disk, and can use a bootable USB of a smaller size for the recovery enviroment
 
Bob
@DavidPostill Long-term, I use Acronis, not free. Macrium Reflect has a free version with a good reputation. Clonezilla is F/OSS. Windows' built-in System Image should still work fine.
'course, as time permits :P
 
I too use the clonezilla
 
11:58 PM
I tend to use veem - macrium is kinda ok for one offs but I had a 'fun' problem where it would block windows upgrades between versions if you uninstalled it
is fixable though
 

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