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@MonicaCellio that's embarrassing. Yes, it was a typo I was going to use that as a descriptive word for you but it went on the chopping block but wasn't removed, or placed correctly. My bad. — User37849012643 20 secs ago

#338018 User37849012643 (1438 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 1) | posted 17 minutes ago by User37849012643 (1438 rep) | edited 2 minutes ago by User37849012643 (1438 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Dweeberly "discussions" implied actual, you know, collaborative participation. What I received was one message alleging but not supporting violations but I could apply for reinstatement, and then no further engagement -- no answers to my questions, no discussion, nothing. — Monica Cellio 55 secs ago

Outstanding answer, thanks. Typos happen to everybody; no need to be embarrassed, and thanks for fixing. (Also, FYI.) — Monica Cellio 2 mins ago

#338018 Monica Cellio (128451 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 0) | posted 21 minutes ago by User37849012643 (1436 rep) | edited 6 minutes ago by User37849012643 (1436 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

But what was the actual problem? A virus? Someone fat-fingering the backup database script? Dangling pointers? — Columbia says Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

@Unionhawk - I already know where you're going with this, and we'll have to agree to disagree. If I call myself "she" or "vree" it is up to others to determine whether my words reflect reality. That I'm referring to myself doesn't make whatever I say about myself true. If I call myself a billionaire and someone chooses not to call me that, it would be absurd to say that affirming I'm a billionaire is correct and not doing so is incorrect. — Scott Hannen 6 secs ago

#337543 Scott Hannen (427 rep) | A: Post for clarifications on the updated pronouns FAQ (score: 12) | posted 7 days ago by rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (3258 rep) | edited 25 hours ago by rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (3258 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Zoe I use Windows RT on occasion, on which IE is the only browser you can use and there is no way to install another browser on it. — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 13 secs ago

#338021 Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23442 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 0) | posted 4 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23442 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I actually managed to make the "Reinstate Monica" hat — Ver Nick says Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

Why would you willingly use IE? — Zoe 1 min ago

#338021 Zoe (3517 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 0) | posted 4 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23442 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@ScottHannen Yeah, you're right about where I'm going and what I'm doing, but I will push back on your absurd "billionaires" example. Your net worth is tied to a more solid set of objective facts. Gender is a little squishier. Trans women are women, trans men are men, nonbinary people are nonbinary. — Unionhawk 1 min ago

This is now deprecated as of HTML5 — T.Woody 2 mins ago

@Catija, I don't think time passing will help in this case. Chipps, Fullerton, et al., have shown that they'll rarely interact with the community at all, but when they do they're fully capable of abusing their power and lashing out arbitrarily, and then just walking away and ignoring the resulting mess. Going radio silent again, as they're doing now, does nothing at all to show that next time they come down from the mountaintop to try to solve some real or imagined problem in the community, be it months or years from now, the results won't be exactly the same. — Nate S - Reinstate Monica 49 secs ago

#337956 Nate S - Reinstate Monica (99 rep) | A: Warning potential new moderators? (score: 23) | posted 25 hours ago by Snow (9244 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Possible duplicate of Can a "rage quit" link be added to allow suspended users to delete their accounts? — Rob 1 min ago

Nice design, but what shall be the trigger? — jknappen - Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

#338022 jknappen - Reinstate Monica (1835 rep) | A: Suggestions for Winter Bash 2019 (score: 1) | posted 13 minutes ago by Ver Nick says Reinstate Monica (1269 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Zoe - My employer has "standardized" on it due to all their intranet tools being written to use it, and does not allow installs of other browsers. I don't use it at home of course, but I have 0 choice in the matter at work. — T.E.D. 58 secs ago

#338021 T.E.D. (176 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 1) | posted 17 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23450 rep) | edited 3 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23450 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@T.E.D. That's not willingly. — Zoe 18 secs ago

#338021 Zoe (3517 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 1) | posted 18 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23450 rep) | edited 4 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23450 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

For those reading, and as one would have predicted -- nothing happened. For defending the CoC and merely being thankful that those that disagree with it part from the network, I was banned. The moderator who called me an asshole stayed a moderator. There was no obvious intervention. — Evan Carroll 8 secs ago

#337049 Evan Carroll (1122 rep) | A: Is peer-accountability permitted on meta.stackexchange? (score: 21) | posted 14 days ago by Tim Post (147795 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@jknappen-ReinstateMonica Reinstate Monica I suppose — Ver Nick says Reinstate Monica 9 secs ago

#338022 Ver Nick says Reinstate Monica (1299 rep) | A: Suggestions for Winter Bash 2019 (score: 4) | posted 23 minutes ago by Ver Nick says Reinstate Monica (1299 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Windows RT is a discontinued mobile operating system developed by Microsoft. October 26, 2012 Wiki // Why should SE cater to your whims and needs? If they didn't care about Cellio, and haven't shown her respect, why do you think you're somehow special? — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago

#338021 Mari-Lou A (11691 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 0) | posted 26 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23456 rep) | edited 12 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23456 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

"Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit?" - no, but Monica has a lot more visibility as an individual, hence the links to her suit are considerably more visible than the links to the licensing lawsuit. It's just an "advertisement" reach issue. Additionally, the license suit is new and hasn't gotten nearly as much attention (because innertia). — Zoe 1 min ago

#337998 Zoe (3517 rep) | Q: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 10) | posted 7 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (8896 rep) | edited 5 hours ago by GhostCat says Reinstate Monica (8896 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

So more formally and implementable: Just using the phrase "reinstate Monica" (with any capitalisation of letters) in a question, answer, or comment on the site triggers the hat? Sounds like a good idea :-) — jknappen - Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

#338022 jknappen - Reinstate Monica (1835 rep) | A: Suggestions for Winter Bash 2019 (score: 5) | posted 27 minutes ago by Ver Nick says Reinstate Monica (1309 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Hear, hear! Brava, bravissima!! — Mari-Lou A 2 mins ago

#338023 Mari-Lou A (11691 rep) | A: Has stirring the pot reached the point of being counter productive? (score: 5) | posted 20 minutes ago by ColleenV (3506 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@jknappen-ReinstateMonica Yes, I love this version ) — Ver Nick says Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

#338022 Ver Nick says Reinstate Monica (1309 rep) | A: Suggestions for Winter Bash 2019 (score: 5) | posted 31 minutes ago by Ver Nick says Reinstate Monica (1309 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Sorry Art of Code but messaging to @Zoe do you think awarding the 7th bounty in a row to Heather's answer, is attracting that kind of support you are hoping for? Are you looking for a way to award all your rep to one person, is that it? — Mari-Lou A 46 secs ago

@bobobobo In psychology, the term demand character denotes qualities of a stimulus that make certain behaviors of a person more likely than others. For example, road markings visually guide drivers along their respective lanes, making it more likely that drivers steer along those lanes instead of into the oncoming traffic. This "visual guidance" is the demand characteristic of the road markings. — user644520 1 min ago

I can see how adding the ability to dismiss the "no longer supported" banner in a browser might be interpreted as supporting that browser. — Don't Panic 1 min ago

#338021 Don't Panic (100 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 0) | posted 39 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23456 rep) | edited 24 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23456 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

The excerpts and wikis are almost certainly copyrightable. (Almost certainly is the strongest statement you can ever truthfully say about copyright law.) — rockwalrus-stop harming Monica 40 secs ago

@Don'tPanic That would need a level of incompetence where I then wonder how that person managed to sit upright in front of the monitor. And still, you can just name that button "ignore this message" and that problem should be solved. — Tom 34 secs ago

#338021 Tom (142 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 0) | posted 41 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23456 rep) | edited 27 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23456 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

How about a "Reinstate Monica" hat? — Richard says Reinstate Monica just now

nothing like adding insult to injury :/ — Richard says Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

#338011 Richard says Reinstate Monica (3139 rep) | A: Missing option to delete account (score: 2) | posted 2 hours ago by Rubiksmoose (2279 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Tom How would the name of a button help someone sit upright? — Don't Panic 1 min ago

#338021 Don't Panic (100 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: -1) | posted 49 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23454 rep) | edited 35 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23454 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

both... meh.... — Richard says Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

@Mari-LouA I'm going to push a bounty per day until I either run out of rep, or risk the downvoting privilege (and by extension, the commenting privilege) until I leave. It's gonna go to Heather's answer unless an official answer is posted, in which case it'll go to that one (provided it's not awful obviously). I'm not looking to attract support in any other way than by making the situation here more visible, and what better way to do that than by a daily bump? It risks reaching the same group over and over, but why not? Everything is a longshot at this point, and I got 3 more days on the site — Zoe 1 min ago

@Don'tPanic Sorry, I can't tell you that secret ... at least not yet ;P. — Tom 58 secs ago

#338021 Tom (142 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: -1) | posted 54 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23454 rep) | edited 40 minutes ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23454 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

"might" is the operational term there. Literally anything "might" offend someone. — Richard says Reinstate Monica 58 secs ago

#335028 Richard says Reinstate Monica (3138 rep) | A: We need "assume good intent" back in the Code of Conduct (score: 172) | posted 32 days ago by Cerberus_Reinstate-Monica (2289 rep) | edited 32 days ago by Cerberus_Reinstate-Monica (2289 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | Comment on inactive

@LinkBerest - I hope you will post an answer, with a link and a quote from the relevant federal law that you found. — aparente001 2 mins ago

+1 and might I add "That which does not destroy me, serves to make me stronger" -Nietzsche ......I've been called every name in the book over the years. You can never stop people from offering offence, but you can always chose not to take it. — Richard says Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

Moreover, it's my worthless virtual internet points I'm giving away. I'm going to channel it into a question of a high enough significance to turn up the heat, on the off chance that's going to be a triggering factor for an answer from SE (/cc @SaraChipps now that I'm already commenting). The answer I see the most value to here is the other letter - that's my opinion and my decision based on my likely flawed reasoning that I can do anything to even make a dent in the mountain known as SE. I'll make a final bounty on Friday that I'll leave up until it expires or gets auto-awarded. — Zoe 2 mins ago

FWIW, I changed my Avatar in support of Monica way before it was cool. I think and 8-bit coffee mug would be subtle enough for this hat. — Peter Turner 2 mins ago

#338022 Peter Turner (1653 rep) | A: Suggestions for Winter Bash 2019 (score: 6) | posted 1 hours ago by Ver Nick says Reinstate Monica (1327 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Monica, what does your attorney say about the press? I've noticed in the special education advocacy world, some attorneys strongly advise staying away from the press; some encourage it or pose no objections. I've seen it be incredibly helpful and I've seen it be incredibly damaging to the family. I keep checking your GoFundMe page every day, hoping for an update. I am concerned that your goals may not align well with most lawyers' modus operandi. I hope that they are, of course. Do you have any idea approximately when you'll be able to post an update? — aparente001 41 secs ago

@zoe Good for you. It's good you've explained yourself but before leaving why not convert all these comments into a proper answer that way even if the answer gets deleted it will remain visible to 10k users. — Mari-Lou A 2 mins ago

@Mari-LouA Because I have a lot of emotions and opinions coming into play, and I'm currently very emotional because it's come to the point where I don't see any other way out but leaving (for various reason I don't want to discuss in the comments on a question where OP has asked for fewer pings :] ). I'm planning to post something at some point before I leave, but I need to be careful with how I write it so it doesn't turn into a rant. If I can't avoid that, I won't post anything. — Zoe 7 secs ago

@Unionhawk the prhases "Nurse a grudge", "Take offense" and "get upset" all contain verbs for a reason. All of them require participation. I don't give people in REAL LIFE(tm) that much power over me, so I'm certainly not going to give some random person on the internet any real estate in my mind. Assuming good intentions robs trolls of all their fun — Richard says Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

Short version: a typo. — Tom Limoncelli ♦ 27 secs ago

@user56reinstatemonica8 Thank you for your comment. Please see my edit. — user644520 1 min ago

github makes this much better, there the user has the choice to dismiss the banner. As a workaround you could zap the element with an ad blocker — samcarter 1 min ago

#338021 samcarter (1301 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 4) | posted 1 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23479 rep) | edited 1 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23479 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Richard I am just as not interested in reopening a month old thread now as I was three weeks ago thanks, and I never mentioned any of the phrases you do so I have no idea what you're going on about. — Unionhawk 2 mins ago

@EJoshuaS That is all the policy focuses on, but I think the FAQ is right to try and address the "why", personally. — Unionhawk 1 min ago

@Unionhawk My point exactly. The FAQ should focus on the behaviors they want, not whether or not people have a “correct” view of gender identity. They’re distracting from the real issue, which is “don’t be disrespectful.” If that’s all the policy focused on, they probably wouldn’t be getting all this pushback. — EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

#337543 EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica (1372 rep) | A: Post for clarifications on the updated pronouns FAQ (score: 12) | posted 7 days ago by rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (3258 rep) | edited 27 hours ago by rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (3258 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Continuous integration and deployment to the cloud, they said. It will be more streamlined and productive, they said. — Frédéric Hamidi 1 min ago

@Unionhawk Why do we need further justification of "don't be rude"? They're creating unnecessary controversy. They don't need to take a position on that particular issue in order to ask people to behave respectfully (which is the main point of the policy anyway). From my perspective, if all they said was "either use the gender that people request or write in a gender-neutral way for everyone" and let it go at that there'd be far less confusion and pushback on this. — EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

"... but it can at least give me some hope and a sense of security that if anything ever happens to me or others, we won't end up mangled by the MSE rumor mill." No, instead you'll end up slandered by SE staff in the press. Which is worse? — Inactive - avoiding CoC 1 min ago

#337591 Inactive - avoiding CoC (99 rep) | A: What can we do about systemic lies regarding Monica's situation? (score: 12) | posted 7 days ago by Tinkeringbell (10372 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@johndoe very bad advice, that could lead to a suspension because it would look like the OP was trying to circumvent the ban. — Mari-Lou A 17 secs ago

#337978 Mari-Lou A (11711 rep) | Q: Was my question not good enough? (score: 1) | posted 19 hours ago by CTOverton (118 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Indeed I object that this rule has been imposed without consulting anyone, neither the general user base nor the group of users it pretends to 'protect'. I've maid no claims about having or wanting to misgender people; you're putting words in my mouth. In fact in the comments above I've already made clear that I don't have any qualms about using gender-neutral language. — Inactive - avoiding CoC 2 mins ago

#335920 Inactive - avoiding CoC (99 rep) | A: Is there even an attempt by SE to make existing users more welcomed? (score: 3) | posted 25 days ago by user (1285 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Indeed I object that this rule has been imposed without consulting anyone, neither the general user base nor the group of users it pretends to protect (in practice it seems to do the opposite, but that's another discussion). I've maid no claims about having or wanting to misgender people; you're putting words in my mouth. In fact in the comments above I've already made clear that I don't have any qualms about using gender-neutral language. — Inactive - avoiding CoC 1 min ago

#335920 Inactive - avoiding CoC (99 rep) | A: Is there even an attempt by SE to make existing users more welcomed? (score: 3) | posted 25 days ago by user (1285 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

On that note; I would kindly suggest that you make an effort to understand the objections that a very large group of users have, in stead of immediately dismissing them as misgendering bigots (which most of them are not). — Inactive - avoiding CoC 18 secs ago

#335920 Inactive - avoiding CoC (99 rep) | A: Is there even an attempt by SE to make existing users more welcomed? (score: 3) | posted 25 days ago by user (1285 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

So, you are saying that users are incapable of taking care of themselves? — Columbia says Reinstate Monica 46 secs ago

#338026 Columbia says Reinstate Monica (7996 rep) | A: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 2) | posted 29 minutes ago by πάντα ῥεῖ (5386 rep) | edited 20 minutes ago by πάντα ῥεῖ (5386 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Tom "That would need a level of incompetence where I then wonder how that person managed to sit upright in front of the monitor." That's widespread and well known as PEBKAC. — πάντα ῥεῖ 55 secs ago

#338021 πάντα ῥεῖ (5386 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 6) | posted 1 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23497 rep) | edited 1 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23497 rep) | T

@ColumbiasaysReinstateMonica Sure I do: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/338021/… — πάντα ῥεῖ 1 min ago

Not really seeing your point I'm afraid. You're suggesting naming all this after the subject of the minor disagreement that an SO Inc used as an excuse to sack and publicly slander a moderator at a time of growing discontent between users and staff. Using your analogy, to me that seems like naming WW1 after the motivation of the Serbian nationalist who threw that bomb. It's just one part of the spark. — user56reinstatemonica8 26 secs ago

Heads up to the downvoters: I did not know this was a duplicate and I cannot delete this answer because it is accepted. — Rubiksmoose 45 secs ago

#338017 Rubiksmoose (2277 rep) | A: StackExchange sites (score: -2) | posted 2 hours ago by Rubiksmoose (2277 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I think half of the Internet doesn't work for them... so getting rid of the banner might be more user friendly. — Her Majesty Queen of ARC 28 secs ago

CodeGolf.SE has wanted an increase in question rep specific to the site for several years, for exactly the reason you mentioned. — isaacg 41 secs ago

All this fuss, and for what? I'm going to go ahead and say that you're the gender you are. Now, this won't be super popular with leftists and such. Let's say I'm wrong. What if I was simply wrong and not evil? What if I was as offended by what I regard as cultural-war aggression as anyone here would be offended by my troglodytism? The main difference I see here is that my ilk isn't trying to unperson anyone. Don't be misled about who the aggressors are in this culture war. — MrBoJangles 1 min ago

I don't understand why people downvote for this reason, but some do so because they disagree with people answering zero-research questions. (I usually just downvote the question instead.) — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 59 secs ago

#338017 Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23502 rep) | A: Where can I get a list of all the Stack Exchange sites available? (score: 0) | posted 3 hours ago by Rubiksmoose (2297 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog Thanks! I figured something like that from the linked answer is in order. Additional confirmation does not hurt. — Her Majesty Queen of ARC 1 min ago

#338001 Her Majesty Queen of ARC (3895 rep) | Q: What is the proper way of reviving declined feature request? (score: 4) | posted 8 hours ago by Her Majesty Queen of ARC (3895 rep) | edited 6 hours ago by Her Majesty Queen of ARC (3895 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

There are multiple messes. Currently. — cp.engr 47 secs ago

#337980 cp.engr (101 rep) | A: Is there a good term/phrase to denote the "current events"? (score: 16) | posted 18 hours ago by ab2 ReinstateMonicaNow (3316 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

It doesn't have to be noise. It can be "Adding some characters to be deleted in the next edit to get around the rule requiring edits to be at least 6 characters, since this edit is just fixing a typo". I think either this was or the one suggested in the answer you linked are fine, but the  answer wasn't working for me, so the other one might break as well, in which case this would be the only option. — Nickolai 2 mins ago

#337969 Nickolai (114 rep) | A: How to overcome "Edits must be at least 6 characters"? (score: -1) | posted 22 hours ago by Nickolai (114 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@her Why should we leave them in the dark, and risk unwanted complaints and noise? — πάντα ῥεῖ 1 min ago

Then how would you attribute them if you use them. — j.doe 36 secs ago

@bobobobo comments aren't even sand, and they add to noise unless they improve or clarify a question or an answer. — KorvinStarmast 8 secs ago

But they are already complaining. — Her Majesty Queen of ARC 8 secs ago

Possible duplicate of Encouraging people to explain downvotes — πάντα ῥεῖ 55 secs ago

#338029 πάντα ῥεῖ (5394 rep) | Q: Proposal for reaction to new posters (score: -3) | posted 4 minutes ago by Soleil (95 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Possible duplicate of Why isn't providing feedback mandatory on downvotes, and why are ideas suggesting such negatively received? — Columbia says Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

#338029 Columbia says Reinstate Monica (8001 rep) | Q: Proposal for reaction to new posters (score: -3) | posted 4 minutes ago by Soleil (95 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Well, you could look this subject up on Meta SO and check the answers on all those questions you'll get to check the counter-arguments. — Tom 2 mins ago

#338029 Tom (142 rep) | Q: Proposal for reaction to new posters (score: -3) | posted 4 minutes ago by Soleil (95 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Most likely for most of the content there is no valid license anymore and copying it is illegal! — Josef 32 secs ago

#338024 Josef (946 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 5) | posted 2 hours ago by Mark Harrison (5643 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

The way you disable it is to upgrade to a supported browser. If you can't, explain to your company how much of an impact their policy to not upgrade to Edge is having to your continued productivity. — Makoto 36 secs ago

#338021 Makoto (23834 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 6) | posted 2 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23497 rep) | edited 2 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23497 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Her But how would the feature of dismissing make that better? — πάντα ῥεῖ 27 secs ago

I think the biggest irony here is that you're asking them to make a FR change for IE after they've explicitly said they no longer support IE :P — scohe001 2 mins ago

#338021 scohe001 (4025 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 5) | posted 2 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23495 rep) | edited 2 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23495 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I had to look up Windows RT. — I am Monica 21 secs ago

#338021 I am Monica (1394 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 5) | posted 2 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23495 rep) | edited 2 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23495 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Save the state. Dismiss only once. Nobody uses Explorer because they really want to. This banner is just adding insult to an injury. — Her Majesty Queen of ARC 2 mins ago

That way, when it breaks unexpectedly at some future point, you can forget all about having dismissed that banner. ;) — I am Monica 47 secs ago

@IamMonica That's exactly my point. — πάντα ῥεῖ 33 secs ago

@PolyGeo I could be wrong but I thought Q&A with accepted answers did not get Roomba'd. — Rubiksmoose 36 secs ago

#338017 Rubiksmoose (2295 rep) | A: Where can I get a list of all the Stack Exchange sites available? (score: -1) | posted 3 hours ago by Rubiksmoose (2295 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

The downvotes may be intended to push this Q&A towards the Roomba. — PolyGeo 2 mins ago

#338017 PolyGeo (19417 rep) | A: Where can I get a list of all the Stack Exchange sites available? (score: -1) | posted 3 hours ago by Rubiksmoose (2295 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Catija - RE: There’s no option for “I don’t like this person” in the removal process at all but particularly not in the emergency process. [Citation needed] (because it sure looks like that's exactly what happened). — J.R. means 'Just Reinstate' 2 mins ago

#337956 J.R. means 'Just Reinstate' (3750 rep) | A: Warning potential new moderators? (score: 23) | posted 28 hours ago by Snow (9264 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

It’s worth checking in case well meaning downvotes are not achieving that intention. — PolyGeo 1 min ago

#338017 PolyGeo (19417 rep) | A: Where can I get a list of all the Stack Exchange sites available? (score: -1) | posted 3 hours ago by Rubiksmoose (2295 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@PolyGeo It looks like I was correct. The only thing this post will qualify for by my reading of the help doc is abandoned closed, which is negated by an accepted answer. — Rubiksmoose 2 mins ago

You misspelled “teh”. :-) ⁠ — Scott 14 secs ago

@PolyGeo To be clear, that was not my intent in answering the question. I just wanted to help them. [shrug] — Rubiksmoose 6 secs ago

How can you prove one way or another that a user is of age or not? And how do you prove how long it'll be until they are of age? — scohe001 37 secs ago

#338033 scohe001 (4025 rep) | Q: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 7) | posted 3 minutes ago by Mark Mayo (1737 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Scott For a split second, I thought you were serious. It's true that I did omit to capitalise the first letter in enter image description here, (which is default to begin with?) — Mari-Lou A 32 secs ago

@scohe001 I've no idea, but there must be a way if they determined they were not of age. If a user says "I'm 15" and the EU law says they need to be 16, just suspend for 366 days, regardless of when their birthday is, just to be safe. — Mark Mayo 26 secs ago

#338033 Mark Mayo (1737 rep) | Q: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 7) | posted 5 minutes ago by Mark Mayo (1737 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I'm 71, nobody's ever asked me to prove it. Or am I 17, or 12? Maybe I'm 8, you want to take my credit card details before I can become a member? I don't have a credit card. I'm 300,000. Propose a solution, can you? — We are Monica. 1 min ago

#338033 We are Monica. (545 rep) | Q: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 8) | posted 9 minutes ago by Mark Mayo (1745 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

This is likely a COPPA requirement. Users under 13 cannot have accounts without parental guardian permission. They can't be stopped from making accounts anyways, but I don't think getting rid of them is optional. — fbueckert 1 min ago

#338033 fbueckert (10398 rep) | Q: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 8) | posted 9 minutes ago by Mark Mayo (1745 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@WeareMonica. I'm saying there was a way they clearly identified the user as being under age. Maybe he say "I'm x" and x was too young. Great. Suspend until of age. If they were joking and they're actually 71, a simple process for getting the account unsuspended with evidence would suffice (like reddit AMAs, hold up a card with your username next to your driver's license, for example) — Mark Mayo 37 secs ago

#338033 Mark Mayo (1743 rep) | Q: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 7) | posted 10 minutes ago by Mark Mayo (1743 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@MarkMayo So the point of the question is that .... people who identify as being of a certain age should then be treated as if they were that age - irrespective of the facts? Qudos for taking a political stance in an obtuse way. — We are Monica. 20 secs ago

#338033 We are Monica. (545 rep) | Q: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 7) | posted 14 minutes ago by Mark Mayo (1743 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@fbueckert that's why I wondered if their profile (and identifying data) could be cleansed, and then suspended. IANAL either, sadly, it just seems like such a waste. — Mark Mayo 1 min ago

#338033 Mark Mayo (1743 rep) | Q: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 7) | posted 14 minutes ago by Mark Mayo (1743 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

You can read up on some stuff about COPPA here. Notably, collecting information about kids under 13 is not allowed. Keeping those accounts probably falls afoul of that requirement, I'm betting. I'm not a legal expert in any sense. — fbueckert 2 mins ago

#338033 fbueckert (10398 rep) | Q: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 7) | posted 14 minutes ago by Mark Mayo (1743 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Fair enough. I figured there might be a legal reason, but thought maybe I had a workaround. But yes, keeping their email even for a couple of years would count as PII :/ Thanks! — Mark Mayo 57 secs ago

#338034 Mark Mayo (1743 rep) | A: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 4) | posted 2 minutes ago by Tinkeringbell (10412 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

#338035 Mark Mayo (1743 rep) | A: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 4) | posted 2 minutes ago by Tim Post (147831 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@WeareMonica.er.......I'm not sure how that became political, if at all. It wasn't the user 'identifying as being of an age', it was being identified by the Mods/CM. Anyway, it's answered below. — Mark Mayo 48 secs ago

#338033 Mark Mayo (1743 rep) | Q: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 7) | posted 16 minutes ago by Mark Mayo (1743 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Wait...doesn't COPPA allow websites to collect such info if the parent consents to it? In the case of your daughter, couldn't you have simply issued your consent, so she could keep her account? — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 2 mins ago

@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog "Wait...doesn't COPPA allow websites to collect such info if the parent consents to it?" No, it doesn't, and companies have gotten in trouble claiming it does. — Ron Maupin 57 secs ago

@RonMaupin So then how do sites with a mostly underage audience (e.g. Disney) operate legally? — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 11 secs ago

It seems highly unlikely that an attorney would take this case that I'm not so sure about - it does seem like a blatant breach of the license that should be a slam dunk if there is any value to all this stuff at all. — Pekka supports GoFundMonica 53 secs ago

#338028 Pekka supports GoFundMonica (79136 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 3) | posted 1 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | edited 57 minutes ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 re

@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog By not collecting PII, or only collecting parental information. A parent can have an account and let the child use it, but the child cannot have his/her own account using PII. — Ron Maupin 33 secs ago

It seems highly unlikely that an attorney would take this case now that I'm not so sure about - it does seem like a blatant breach of the license that should be a slam dunk if there is any value to any of this licensing stuff at all. Whether the goal of a preliminary injunction is at all realistic I don't know, and you're right the question of damages is out the window because you can't prove actual harm, but it should be possible to at least have a court force them to do this properly for the user who's suing. And at that point they might just as well do it properly for everyone. — Pekka supports GoFundMonica 1 min ago

#338028 Pekka supports GoFundMonica (79136 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 3) | posted 1 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | edited 1 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep)

@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog, I have seen multiple news articles about parents upset that their children's' accounts were deleted with no notice and all the information purged. One father even tried to sue a big social-media site because his 12-year old daughter's account was purged. — Ron Maupin 26 secs ago

This question, as written, is not suitable anywhere on the Stack Exchange network. — Columbia says Reinstate Monica 37 secs ago

#338038 Columbia says Reinstate Monica (8002 rep) | Q: postgres column contain stringfy json (score: -2) | posted 2 minutes ago by sr9419 (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

In case it's not clear, it looks like you were probably trying to ask your question on the other site where you have an account, travel.stackexchange.com — Reinstate Monica 13 secs ago

#338039 Reinstate Monica (237 rep) | Q: German embassy in Nigeria studies visa refusal (score: -5) | posted 8 minutes ago by James Okorie (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

If it's not inappropriate to 'invite' you like this, I'd love to hear what you have to say here: Checking in with the Lavender community. — gung - Reinstate Monica 33 secs ago

#336928 gung - Reinstate Monica (2543 rep) | A: Is the Teachers' Lounge toxic, if so why? (score: 75) | posted 15 days ago by user58 (15240 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@JourneymanGeek shouldn't we use the stated pronouns in their profile, even if referring to their old username? — JJ for Transparency and Monica 51 secs ago

#337973 JJ for Transparency and Monica (1492 rep) | A: Change the "community wiki thingy" so that it won't deadname users (score: -2) | posted 22 hours ago by P. O. Boxer (99 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

If it's not inappropriate to 'invite' you like this, I'd love to hear what you have to say here: Checking in with the Lavender community. — gung - Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

#336731 gung - Reinstate Monica (2543 rep) | Q: To reach out: on Monica, the Lavender community, and the future of the Stack Exchange network (score: 417) | posted 18 days ago by heather (5731 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

If it's not inappropriate to 'invite' you like this, I'd love to hear what you have to say here: Checking in with the Lavender community. — gung - Reinstate Monica 18 secs ago

The mod that promises to resign in protest the day after the election is the only one I'd vote for. (At least, until they perform restitution to Monica.) Anything else would be undercutting the mods that did act on their principles and resign. — Ask About Monica 17 secs ago

Of course, nothing stops users from just lying about their age. I was born on January 1st 1960 on a lot of websites :) — JonathanReez Supports Monica 20 secs ago

If it's not inappropriate to 'invite' you like this, I'd love to hear what you have to say here: Checking in with the Lavender community. — gung - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

What if parent says account email is their? Could the child use it, or at least could it be put in suspension then? — Her Majesty Queen of ARC 2 mins ago

If it's not inappropriate to 'invite' you like this, I'd love to hear what you have to say here: Checking in with the Lavender community. — gung - Reinstate Monica 2 mins ago

This question would not be considered suitable on Travel Stack Exchange. — Columbia says Reinstate Monica 54 secs ago

#338039 Columbia says Reinstate Monica (8002 rep) | Q: German embassy in Nigeria studies visa refusal (score: -10) | posted 32 minutes ago by James Okorie (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I guess, if this is implimented, I'll have to say goodbye to "The Snark Knight", "Don Thermidor Lobster mobster" and "Snark Vader" — Richard says Reinstate Monica 1 min ago

#337973 Richard says Reinstate Monica (3135 rep) | A: Change the "community wiki thingy" so that it won't deadname users (score: -1) | posted 22 hours ago by P. O. Boxer (109 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I'm not a lawyer, but it does appear to be breach of contract given that an actual exchange of value took place. — EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica 11 secs ago

#338028 EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica (1404 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 3) | posted 1 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | edited 1 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | T

Please don't use my name in a tag. I'm a victim not the cause and labels have a way of sticking long-term. Also, it's much bigger than me. It's also bigger than the CoC, so it shouldn't be cast as just a CoC issue -- it's a bunch of things, so maybe crisis-2019 is the best option. — Monica Cellio 2 mins ago

@gung - my activity on the site has basically dropped off with the exception of a few select chat rooms. I can't really provide much more of a perspective at the moment because I'm not following what's happening now. — user58 40 secs ago

#336928 user58 (15240 rep) | A: Is the Teachers' Lounge toxic, if so why? (score: 75) | posted 15 days ago by user58 (15240 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

It's your own perspective that I'd be interested in. You are the world's foremost expert on that no matter how active you've been recently. That said, if you aren't interested, I respect that. — gung - Reinstate Monica 17 secs ago

#336928 gung - Reinstate Monica (2556 rep) | A: Is the Teachers' Lounge toxic, if so why? (score: 75) | posted 15 days ago by user58 (15240 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog The process for getting a parent's verifiable consent is complicated and not worth the effort for any site not targeted at children: ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/… — animuson ♦ 19 secs ago

IMHO this post is a dis-service. The pronoun issue is a distraction and a Red Herring. The problem is with the relations between SE Inc. and SE users and moderators especially, and the way this network is being managed/handled by SE Inc. And LGBTQ+ are not collectively on one side of this issue or the other. — einpoklum - reinstate Monica 1 min ago

I don't feel like Winter Bash with things being as they are. Especially with Monica not being reinstated. — einpoklum - reinstate Monica 23 secs ago

@Mark: A serious troll gets a key position at StackExchange Inc. and then there's no bounds to what they can do. — einpoklum - reinstate Monica 1 min ago

#336124 einpoklum - reinstate Monica (6486 rep) | A: Neopronouns or trolling? (score: -8) | posted 22 days ago by 3lit3h4XX0r666 (9 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@einpoklum-reinstateMonica, I have a strong suspicion that there are trans users on both sides of several of the recent contentious issues. Other than all being trans, they don't necessarily have anything in common, so I would expect opinions to vary on any issue. The point of this post isn't the relations b/t SE & users per se. I'm just wondering what LGBTQ+ users think right now. In a sense, I'd like an update on the lavender letter. Those who aren't interested can completely ignore this. — gung - Reinstate Monica 53 secs ago

I like the Fedora. But - it has a bit of a moire/aliasing effect. — einpoklum - reinstate Monica 25 secs ago

#338022 einpoklum - reinstate Monica (6486 rep) | A: Suggestions for Winter Bash 2019 (score: 6) | posted 4 hours ago by Ver Nick says Reinstate Monica (1359 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@aloisdgsaysReinstateMonica I prefer  :D — endolith 49 secs ago

direct your complaints at IT — Kevin B 35 secs ago

#338021 Kevin B (2012 rep) | Q: Add a way to dismiss the "Internet Explorer is no longer supported" banner (score: 9) | posted 4 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23503 rep) | edited 4 hours ago by Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23503 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Many countries have adopted an age lower than 16 as the cut off, so this is incorrect. I can understand that SE might have chosen to simplify things by adopting 16 EU-wide, but that's a choice, not something compelled by law. — GS - Apologise to Monica just now

#338042 GS - Apologise to Monica (619 rep) | A: What happened to accounts that were previously of age, but became underage once GDPR was adopted? (score: 4) | posted 33 minutes ago by Robert Cartaino (98271 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Why does SE need their actual personal information? Can't they just give false information instead? — einpoklum - reinstate Monica 13 secs ago

#338035 einpoklum - reinstate Monica (6486 rep) | A: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: 19) | posted 1 hours ago by Tim Post (147981 rep) | edited 46 seconds ago by einpoklum - reinstate Monica (6486 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Sadly, I have to tell my children to lie about their ages all the time on the internet. At least it's getting them into the proper anti-establishment mindset that will serve them well when they're grown. — Ask About Monica 18 secs ago

Making this argument here isn't going to change the law. — Kevin B 56 secs ago

#338043 Kevin B (2009 rep) | A: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: -2) | posted 1 minutes ago by einpoklum - reinstate Monica (6482 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

SE can't do that because it'd be blatantly against the law. — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 1 min ago

#338043 Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23502 rep) | A: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: -2) | posted 1 minutes ago by einpoklum - reinstate Monica (6482 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog: What, you mean because "individuals have to be a certain age to legally give us consent to store their PII"? Well, don't have them enter their PII then. — einpoklum - reinstate Monica 1 min ago

#338043 einpoklum - reinstate Monica (6476 rep) | A: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: -5) | posted 6 minutes ago by einpoklum - reinstate Monica (6476 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@KevinB: Maybe not, but: 1. It's what I believe and 2. It's not clear that things can't be arranged so that the law is not broken. — einpoklum - reinstate Monica 3 mins ago

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#338044 Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23505 rep) | Q: lftp delete multiples files with bash (score: -1) | posted 4 minutes ago by Florian Richard (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@einpoklum-reinstateMonica login info is PII. "We can't let them log in because that means storing a credential which contains, yep, PII." This seems like a non-trivial problem to design around, and you haven't proposed any way to do so. — Rubiksmoose 1 min ago

#338043 Rubiksmoose (2265 rep) | A: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: -6) | posted 18 minutes ago by einpoklum - reinstate Monica (6487 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

"performed any moderator activities"...quick question: do non-moderator activities count toward this? So, in other words, can a mod be removed for inactivity if they weren't moderating, even though they were participating actively in the site in a non-moderator capacity (e.g. asking and answering questions)? — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 2 mins ago

#338006 Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23505 rep) | A: What is the process regarding moderator inactivity removals? (score: 9) | posted 10 hours ago by JNat (7453 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

A bit sarcastic answer, but we hate fun, I suppose. — Peter Mortensen 37 secs ago

#338043 Peter Mortensen (4620 rep) | A: Under age users - could they just be suspended until of age? (score: -6) | posted 20 minutes ago by einpoklum - reinstate Monica (6487 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Re "...major rebellion": Q&A Revolution The Q&A Revolution was a colonial revolt which occurred between 2019 and 2025. The Independents in the Three Colonies defeated the Stack Exchange empire in the Q&A Revolutionary War (2021-2025) with the assistance of Quora, winning independence from Spolsky Knowledge Markets and establishing the United Sites of Q&A. No, not yet. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago

@GS-ApologisetoMonica The question is about the GDPR reference in the TOS so, yes, we are talking about upholding the law(s) outlined in GDPR for users residing in those countries. — Robert Cartaino ♦ 2 mins ago

#338042 Robert Cartaino (98306 rep) | A: What happened to accounts that were previously of age, but became underage once GDPR was adopted? (score: 6) | posted 1 hours ago by Robert Cartaino (98306 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Most people are not aware that IE 11 still receives security updates, it even from time to time, receives very minor feature updates (limited to IE11 builds on supported versions of Windows). Now the Trident engine will never be updated to be feature complete with any of the other current browser engines, which is likely the major reason, Stack Exchange has decided not to support it. Although, not supporting IE 11, sort of breaks the general policy of supporting browsers that are supported (i.e. by Google, Mozilla, Apple, Microsoft, etc). — Ramhound 11 secs ago

Sorry, I don't get it. What does "not allowed to" mean? That GDPR doesn't allow you to, or that your own TOS don't allow you to? — GS - Apologise to Monica 55 secs ago

#338042 GS - Apologise to Monica (619 rep) | A: What happened to accounts that were previously of age, but became underage once GDPR was adopted? (score: 7) | posted 1 hours ago by Robert Cartaino (98316 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

The first bullet point is ambiguous, I think. Perhaps rephrase? — Peter Mortensen 52 secs ago

Re "pronoun-free": Wasn't it gender-neutral (much more narrow)? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago

@PekkasupportsGoFundMonica a preliminary injunction? I'm sorry, I just don't see the irreparable harm. But if there is a licensed attorney who as agreed to take the case, then it should say so in the fundraiser. Right now it looks like Jacob is doing this by himself ("i've reached out to Stack Exchange", "I recently sent a formal DMCA notice") — De Novo supports GoFundMonica 3 mins ago

#338028 De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 3) | posted 2 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | edited 2 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 re

@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica possibly. To be clear, I do not believe SE is allowed to relicense content owned by the users without their permission, but to take this to court you need to show harm. — De Novo supports GoFundMonica just now

#338028 De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 3) | posted 3 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | edited 2 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 re

Isn't there some other organisation that would be doing this, like FSF when the GPL is violated (example: D-Link). — Peter Mortensen 41 secs ago

#338028 Peter Mortensen (4620 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 3) | posted 3 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | edited 2 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps:

What do you mean by "And mutation this is only declaration without body" and "This is information tahat returns server" (seems incomprehensible)? — Peter Mortensen 50 secs ago

@PeterMortensen I thought it was about a writing style which avoids he, she, and singular they. I'll go and make sure I have a citation for that / remove it if its ambiguous and I can't provide a cite. — sourcejedi 2 mins ago

Related: Database schema documentation for the public data dump and SEDE — Peter Mortensen 13 secs ago

#338046 Peter Mortensen (4620 rep) | Q: How do you join between Posts and Users in the Stack Overflow database? (score: 2) | posted 3 minutes ago by user147894 (111 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@gung-ReinstateMonica answered. I'll definitely have to revise it tomorrow, when I'm more awake than now :] — Zoe 8 secs ago

This takes the cake for "most whiny offended group of people on the internet" for 2019. Unfathomable how much money and time is wasted by people worrying about offending a bunch !@#$ies. — mxmissile 2 mins ago

Note that a question being closed as a duplicate doesn't put it into the same bucket as questions closed for other reasons. — Kevin B 45 secs ago

#338049 Kevin B (2009 rep) | A: Accepted answers should not categorically block auto-deletion of closed questions (score: 1) | posted 4 minutes ago by PolyGeo (19433 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Peter Mortensen Brilliant! Vulcan agents, working underground and wearing hats to hide their ears, assisted, the object being to advance the date of First Contact. — ab2 ReinstateMonicaNow 41 secs ago

@Pekka With a little script to register every question, answer, and comment separately with the copyright office the statutory damages could rack up very quickly. — rockwalrus-stop harming Monica 45 secs ago

#338028 rockwalrus-stop harming Monica (3288 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 3) | posted 3 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | edited 3 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429

If a question has an answer and is closed as a dupe there's no way that I can see for the roomba to delete it even without the accepted answer clause. — Rubiksmoose 53 secs ago

#338049 Rubiksmoose (2265 rep) | A: Accepted answers should not categorically block auto-deletion of closed questions (score: 2) | posted 9 minutes ago by PolyGeo (19443 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

I've not seen any counterviews that state that Monica's de-modding was valid (even the CTO said it wasn't). At worst you could say that some of Monica's views, which she only discussed in mod-only space, were hurtful to some people. While I've seen a couple folks say they were glad this happened (rare but...), no one has shown that the process SE went through was legitimate in any way. It didn't match their process at the time (there wasn't much of one, but there was one for users in general). It was a screwup start to finish. SE basically admits this but won't fix it. — Cyn says make Monica whole 2 mins ago

#338025 Cyn says make Monica whole (3678 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 5) | posted 4 hours ago by ColeValleyGirl (1289 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@Peter Mortensen Brilliant! Vulcan agents, working undercover (e.g. wearing hats to hide their ears) assisted, the object being to advance the date of First Contact. — ab2 ReinstateMonicaNow 14 secs ago

@sourcejedi I think there was an implicit request for people who aren’t “in the community” to answer. It also feels odd for an answer to a very personal question to be marked CW, as if it represents a larger consensus or something. — Dan Bron 2 mins ago

@rockwalrus-stopharmingMonica the relicensing fundraiser isn't suing for copyright infringement and acknowledges SE has the right to use the content. Are you suggesting a copyright claim against someone else? — De Novo supports GoFundMonica 1 min ago

#338028 De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | A: Is the re-licensing situation perceived as much less important than Monica's defamation lawsuit? (score: 3) | posted 3 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 rep) | edited 3 hours ago by De Novo supports GoFundMonica (1429 re

@DanBron One of the reasons given for closing this originally was because it could be seen as a demand on trans people. I stand by my first sentence - we should not demand people to repeat themselves in order to be heard. I offer this as a reminder of what Aza specifically has said. I felt CW avoided me "taking credit" for it. It might also better invite edits to improve citations. I would say the request for me not to answer was explicit. I challenged / re-interpreted that request. This can be deleted on Aza's wishes, or if it causes drama without adding to the discussion. — sourcejedi 45 secs ago

@sourcejedi I was responding to your initial comment that there was an “implicit request for non-community members to avoid voting on answers”, which I saw as hypocritical. — Dan Bron 36 secs ago

@PeterMortensen edited. I had some comments in mind, but they might have been deleted or are not easily searchable. Might not have been the best idea in the first place :-). — sourcejedi 16 secs ago

@MonicaCellio Yes, I think that's terrible and I find Mr Fullerton "apology" insincere especially when suggesting discussions will be kept "complete private" when that seems to be part of the problem to start with. Clearly discussion isn't Mr Fullerton's strong suit. It is a shame that a site based on open dialog seems to have a CTO opposed to it. You clearly have support and I hope SE will take note. — Dweeberly 1 min ago

You already can comment under your own posts and under all posts on your own questions. Do you have a specific site where you say you can't comment? — Tom 29 secs ago

#338050 Tom (142 rep) | Q: Add ability to leave comments on my own answer (score: -1) | posted 4 minutes ago by James (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@PeterMortensen I did see a high-profile user claim that her natural writing style doesn't use pronouns at all, though that claim is trivially falsifiable. I can see why sourcejedi wrote "pronoun-free" in an earlier revision of this answer. — metasnail 41 secs ago

I think people are going to have to stop pretending that this is a self governing community. It's simply designed to look that way. It's a corporation guys. Nothing more than that. — tgm1024 2 mins ago

Possible duplicate of Why do I need 50 reputation to comment? What can I do instead? — Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog 5 secs ago

#338050 Sonic the Reinstate Monica-hog (23505 rep) | Q: Add ability to leave comments on my own answer (score: -1) | posted 5 minutes ago by James (1 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Btw your question body/title is a little bit misleading. It first reads like you found some code somewhere else and want to share it here. — Tom 5 secs ago

#338051 Tom (142 rep) | Q: How can I use stackexchange as a "Look at this nice trick"-kind of site? (score: -1) | posted 4 minutes ago by Garo (99 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

stackexchange.com/questions?tab=hot for example — Tom 54 secs ago

#338051 Tom (142 rep) | Q: How can I use stackexchange as a "Look at this nice trick"-kind of site? (score: -1) | posted 4 minutes ago by Garo (99 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@DanBron Yes. I understood that. I think :-). I acknowledged I'm walking a fine line. If the people I'm trying to help say I'm stepping on their toes, I'll stop. Part of me walking that line is trying to guess if those people are anonymously downvoting or not. — sourcejedi 1 min ago

That will give me interesting questions, but that's not the purpose. The questions can be questions that are trivial to solve and/or really boring. It's the answers that matter to me — Garo 2 mins ago

#338051 Garo (99 rep) | Q: How can I use stackexchange as a "Look at this nice trick"-kind of site? (score: -1) | posted 8 minutes ago by Garo (99 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

True... I couldn't think of a clear question that would be short enough to fit in the title. This is the best I could think off to keep it both short and related to the real question — Garo 6 secs ago

#338051 Garo (99 rep) | Q: How can I use stackexchange as a "Look at this nice trick"-kind of site? (score: -1) | posted 9 minutes ago by Garo (99 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

@sourcejedi I feel like the idea behind this question was to ask how people feel now, and a good portion of this answer is reporting what people posted then. The way I read it, the OP expressed this with "checking in", like "It's been a while and I already know a lot of you thought things were bad a month ago, but how do you feel now that some time has passed? Have things gotten better or worse or stayed the same?" So in a sense I feel like this doesn't really answer the question. — metasnail 1 min ago

Won't these just be the most highly upvoted answers of the previous week? — PolyGeo 2 mins ago

#338051 PolyGeo (19443 rep) | Q: How can I use stackexchange as a "Look at this nice trick"-kind of site? (score: -3) | posted 17 minutes ago by Garo (95 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

Not sure about this... I think the highest up-voted answers will just be the clearest explanations.But they won't necessarily introduce new ideas. (I assume in most cases it will even be the opposite, the answer that will get the highest votes will be a answer that most people already know) — Garo 1 min ago

#338051 Garo (95 rep) | Q: How can I use stackexchange as a "Look at this nice trick"-kind of site? (score: -3) | posted 21 minutes ago by Garo (95 rep) | Toxicity 0.0 | tps/fps: 0/0

(Is something missing after "isn't phrased in a way that includes"?) — Peter Mortensen 2 mins ago

@metasnail I see valid points in both your comments. I've edited in response to your first comment. I lean towards keeping this answer at least as a very weak second to heather, or even to Skript47's point "It might just be that people have just left". If someone seconds heather, then probably I run out of reasons and should delete this answer. — sourcejedi 58 secs ago