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12:01 AM
Reasonable to add it to this answer?
 
12:29 AM
I've edited the answer, though I'm not sure my edit has the best wording. I've VTC'd the dupe.
 
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2:04 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body (96): ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by ome121777 on askubuntu.com
 
2:32 AM
@SmokeDetector off topic, not sure if it's spam
 
 
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6:05 AM
POB or too-broad, don't think it can get any objective answer
kinda unclear, looks abandoned. is there a canonical dupe target for this? Also looks like the OS is Linux Mint.
 
 
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7:35 AM
@EliahKagan nicely done
 
NAA link-only answer and the link is broken
 
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We have something specific for this, don't we?
no longer needed, that's an answer to the question. The answer is to use a specific website, not to go to the website to find out what the answer is. (It's not a good answer, I don't think, but it's an answer.)
@EliahKagan I've VTC'd as a dupe.
 
8:02 AM
@EliahKagan Post already reported
 
I don't understand the question:/
 
I don't understand the wording of the title, which is why I haven't (yet) edited it.
The question is about why that ssh-copy-id command failed with that name resolution error.
I'd expect plain old ssh to fail with the same hostname in the same way if that happens.
 
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^^ I should've reported it before my edit (which was from a Reject and Edit review) but I think this is still reasonable. Anyway it's NAA.
I've rejected this edit with the custom reason:
> Please do not cause questions to claim that code was used that was not actually used. See also meta.askubuntu.com/q/17649.
It needs at least one more review. Any of the canned reasons besides "irrelevant tags" could also be used.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (2): Uninstalling Anaconda in Ubuntu by AskFeeds on askubuntu.com
 
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8:35 AM
^^ I think it's also spam. (It's the same post Smokey just reported.)
 
@EliahKagan Post already reported
 
OT Pop!_OS - going by what the OP says, it's unclear if and to what extent Ubuntu has actually been used, but as far as I can tell, they're not currently using or attempting to use Ubuntu
 
8:50 AM
I feel I should be voting more
 
Are you not running out of votes on days when you are actively using the site?
 
No. That rarely happens
 
If you always run out of votes on days when you are actively using the site, then you are voting enough.
The converse likely does not hold, though. That is, you may still be voting enough, depending on how much you prefer to vote and what criteria you apply (and where you set the bar for each criterion).
Suppose a post's score should reflect its value, and there are a whole bunch of people voting. If everyone votes on the same number of posts and with the same thresholds as to what to vote for, then post scores will not reflect this. Instead, they'll reflect whatever that threshold is.
In contrast, if some people only vote for the very best imaginable posts, and some people vote for anything that's pretty okay, and other people fall everywhere in between, then the distribution of votes will generally reflect the value (really, people's beliefs about the value) of posts.
This is an informal argument that could be supported or refuted with the help of quantitative evidence, though one would have to solve the problem of defining "value" for the purpose of the study.
I say "value" instead of "quality" because votes track interest as much as quality.
But like, suppose I see four posts, A, B, C, and D, and I think A, B, and C, are good enough to upvote, so I upvote them.
Someone else, say Jorge, sees them and decides A and B are good enough to upvote.
You see them and decide A is good enough to upvote.
If the main difference between our judgments is where to set the threshold for upvoting, then the effect is that post scores approximate the quality of the posts pretty well, and much better than if we all voted with the same threshold.
Votes that are simply poorly considered worsen the situation, but I don't think they change this analysis.
Of course, not everyone sees all the same posts.
But I think how much people vote is actually something that should vary across the user base.
With that said, I do think we don't vote enough on Ask Ubuntu, both in terms of how many votes the site would benefit from being cast, and by comparison to many other Stack Exchange sites. On days when I am active on the site, I try to use all my votes -- though I don't do so if I can't find posts that are worth voting on, and I don't usually log in to the site to browse and vote on things on days when I would not otherwise use the site very much.
Can good alt text be written for these screenshots? I didn't think of good descriptions, so I didn't add any as I was improving the edit that, among other things, inlined the images.
I want to undelete this question and ask the OP if they are actually currently using or attempting to use Ubuntu.
Questions about operating systems that aren't Ubuntu or official derivatives of Ubuntu are often good cases for 20k deletion but I don't think this one was. I agree with (and was part of) the closure but not this quick of a deletion.
@Zanna Why do you feel you should be voting more?
@Zanna Is this because you don't see enough posts that you think are worth voting on?
 
9:20 AM
I noticed that I've edited more posts than I've voted on.
@EliahKagan I think it's because I lack the technical knowledge to evaluate many of the posts I see
 
@Zanna Though still relevant, that's less of an impediment to voting on questions, right?
@Zanna Yes, but haven't you also edited more posts than anyone else has edited?
 
@EliahKagan yes. I find it easier to vote on questions
@EliahKagan that's a very interesting though!
 
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@EliahKagan that is correct!
 
@Zanna Perhaps you can vote more by voting on even more questions.
 
:)
 
I guess I vote whenever I feel I should, but maybe I can vote whenever I feel I can
 
Or something in between?
 
9:52 AM
@EliahKagan yes :)
 
For finding posts to vote on, I have found askubuntu.com/tools/post-feedback useful.
Especially the "underrated" tab.
(I mean, one must still read read each post to decide if voting is reasonable, of course.)
 
NAA link-only answer and the link is broken and returns Server Not Found.
 
@EliahKagan indeed!
 
10:17 AM
@karel I've commented. The score is negative now so we can vote to delete it, which I've done.
 
10:28 AM
@EliahKagan I think that could be considered as a dupe of this
 
WPS is proprietary, right? I'm asking in connection with this community ad.
I'm not aware of any rule that software projects in the community ads have to be FOSS. I'm not sure if we have any consensus about that. Anyway, that ad is not currently displayed. But I'm wondering.
 
@EliahKagan I thought so, and wikipedia agrees
 
10:45 AM
@EliahKagan Querying the WPS snap packages in the terminal returns license is unset which is not AFAIK an open source license.
Most useful undervoted question ever imo goes to Why Doesn't my Bootable USB Boot.
 
@karel Agreed. I think much of it would better have been posted in a self-answer (and could still be moved to an answer) and that this might be part of why it has been undervoted, though.
 
11:15 AM
The edit on this question is good, and I recommend accepting or improving it. I can't review it because I've already reviewed 20 suggested edits today.
Also, the question seems off-topic.
I don't think this question is quite unclear, but don't we have a general question for that?
 
@EliahKagan "improved" by removing some question marks haha
 
Thanks.
 
11:35 AM
@EliahKagan Posting it as a self-answer, accepting the self-answer, and a bounty awarded by another user would improve it further in the direction of becoming a canonical question.
 
@EliahKagan I remember looking for something good for this and failing a fairly long while ago
a lot of things are duped to this question which doesn't seem to be up to date
@EliahKagan in what circumstances could ./file be different from file?
 
Can you recommend good place for hardware compatibility questions? Or even how to check whatever hardware (foot switch/pedal in my case) will be compatible with Ubuntu?
 
11:50 AM
@MateuszKonieczny Ubuntu Forums is the best resource I know of for that.
 
Thanks, I will ask there!
 
all the best!
 
12:03 PM
@Zanna When it is the first word of a shell command.
Also when file is a string that starts with - and it is used in a context where a leading - causes it to be interpreted as an option (or as the special argument - for programs that recognize that, which is technically not an option) rather than as a non-option path/filename argument.
 
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^^ Yeah, that's spam. The author seems to have made a mistake making the link, unfortunately, but it's at least a spam attempt.
@EliahKagan There are other situations but I think they are all even less related to the question we were discussing.
For example, it is possible to execute any program with any string passed to it as its own name. Shells behave as initial login shells when they find their names, supplied this way, start with -. This is entirely separate from the case where a leading - causes an argument to be interpreted as an option when it would otherwise be interpreted a a path/filename.
 
@EliahKagan oh haha indeed
maybe you're right that the question should be closed as unclear
 
12:25 PM
@EliahKagan Sorry, I meant to say fortunately.
 
12:39 PM
this seems certainly not to be an answer, rather a justification of the question. But for some reason I am feeling reluctant to delete it. Is there anywhere reasonable to put this thought? Could it be a comment anywhere? Or is it useless?
 
@EliahKagan so, almost certainly, whatever weirdness was going on was simply eliminated when they reinstalled, and they would not have been able to reproduce it (which they did not try)
(I'm not suggesting that the question qualifies for closure as a problem that can't be reproduced)
 
@Zanna It would be acceptable as a comment. It's wrong, though. The most common way to confer sudo privileges, on any operating system that has sudo or on which sudo has been installed, is by group membership. Although sudoers files are not world-readable, the information about what users are members of what groups is nearly always world-accessible, and can be queried with the groups command (with usernames as arguments) or by inspecting some world-readable files in /etc.
It's nearly always easy to figure out which group confers sudo privileges even on bespoke configurations on OSes that don't ship with sudo; the upstream sample sudoers file suggests using the wheel group for this. On Debian and Ubuntu, the configured default in /etc/sudoers is that the sudo group confers this. In earlier releases, the admin group conferred it.
 
yeah
 
Furthermore, the question is specifically about dotfiles in home directories belonging to users in the sudo group.
 
12:50 PM
ok, I've voted to delete that post. Thanks for the clear thinking :)
 
If someone did want to make that information inaccessible or obscure, they would presumably also change the default umask and chmod any existing home directories so that users can't look inside other users' home directories.
That step is often a good idea. Trying to conceal which users can sudo to root is rarely probably never reasonable.
 
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@Natty fp
 
2:10 PM
@EliahKagan What if it is closed against askubuntu.com/q/47538/816190?
 
@Kulfy I'm not sure. It could at least use a "Related:" comment for it. (Or if you think it's a dupe of that, then your dupe vote will take care of the commenting.)
 
I left a comment.
 
2:35 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): After upgrading to Ubuntu 19.10, MySQL fails ✏️ by crydotsnake on askubuntu.com
 
3:04 PM
The link in this answer isn't working for me... not sure what to do about it
 
@Zanna The link is broken because the website is defunct. Recommend deletion.
 
@Zanna Go Wayback?
On a side note, that page seems to host EOL releases.
Not sure if it's worthy to keep.
 
3:22 PM
@karel ok :)
@Kulfy yeah, but I think it wouldn't be a good idea to install software from that
 
Downloads ain't available either.
 
I voted to delete that answer as I don't think it has any use now
 
(unrelated) Is it on-topic?
I haven't tried that app.
 
seems ok
 
3:44 PM
@Natty tp
 
4:43 PM
I've voted to close this and that question as duplicates
is this post really a dupe?
it seems like the OP is confused about a few things
I'm not sure we can be clear about what exactly has happened
But I tend to think those confusions could be usefully addressed in a specific answer that I myself don't know how to write
 
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6:17 PM
this edit suggestion may be right, but the description is cryptic to say the least...
 
6:30 PM
@Zanna Conveniently for me, I've already reviewed 20 suggested edits today, so I can't deal with that...
The best approach may be to check the version number and approve the edit if it's correct.
 
@EliahKagan it's correct according to the README, which also says the driver is deprecated
 
Cool.
 
I guess I'll just approve that
 
Seems reasonable.
 
6:44 PM
Do we really need ? This was created some minutes ago.
 
the links in this suggested tag wiki excerpt seem cumbersome to me since they won't be clickable (the same person has suggested content for the wiki which I approved, including all these links properly formatted)
@Kulfy oh I'm talking about that tag hahaha
I think it's a reasonable tag for us to have
it's a specific Ubuntu-y thing
 
I don't think it's useful since it installs modded "Ubuntu" which I'm not sure is on-topic.
 
hmm we probably need a meta question about whether this Ubuntu is on topic
 
Makes sense.
 
it seems like some combination of WSL and Ubuntu on Chromebooks
 
6:50 PM
It's for Android
Yeah like Shell extension on Google Chrome
 
the website seems confusing and badly written
I mean, the text is badly written
I don't know about web design
(but I personally really dislike websites full of things that change size and move around a lot)
 
@Zanna I've skipped the review for now until the it's clear if andronix is on-topic. I do believe it comes under "OS based on Ubuntu" which are off-topic. I'm not sure if Canonical officially supports that. If they don't, why should we.
 
I "improved" it to remove the links for now
 
Just out of curiosity, I understand that if there ain't any question with an 'x' tag, it'll get destroyed automatically within 24 hrs. But what about the excerpt? Will it "come back" if the tag is recreated? And what about the +2 which editor got?
 
I feel that they won't come back, but I'm not completely sure
 
7:06 PM
@Kulfy It's got its own tag already, but I'm not sure that AndroNix is on topic. Does it use the Ubuntu iso or its own modded Ubuntu-based version?
 
it seems to be modified Ubuntu, so probably off-topic
 
@karel I tried to try that. It fetches some script from GitHub. Executes that script in termux
lsb_release -a didn't work. It uses ports.ubuntu.com in sources.list
may be modded Ubuntu touch
 
they say it's non-free
 
Ubuntu touch?
 
sorry folks, feeling sleepy, should probably have called it a day earlier
later all \o
 
7:26 PM
@Kulfy Thank you. That's exactly what I needed to know.
 
I'll give it another shot tomorrow.
 
@EliahKagan Post already reported
 
not off-topic, but maybe it's a dupe of something?
 
 
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9:28 PM
no longer needed, answer was expanded
 
@Natty tp
@Natty tp
 

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