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Avi
2:48 AM
is "without boots" a valid subtraction indicator for the last character?
and is "without a hat" a valid subtraction indicator for the first character?
I'm freezing without end in a city in New Mexico, missing two boots, and nearly dead without a hat (2, 4)
SO COLD = SOCO(-rro) + (-o)LD
 
3:37 AM
I'd say no to both of those (plus, your clue has an extra "in" between indicator and fodder, which doesn't get used)
(maybe "without a hat" is okay, but that seems questionable -- "without boots", definitely not)
 
 
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6:33 AM
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Q: At The Square Brackets

Dannyu NDos The sky is so clear As if I am in emptiness. "Insert coin here" Says the arcade just emplaced. I will bring my eraser If my paper is swapped with a scrap. Nothing to extract from the scrap Since they'll merge together anyway. I count and find The supremum and the infimum. A...

 
 
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12:44 PM
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Q: In the top five, I'm odd

rybo111When I am done, I'm served. When you are me, be proud. In the top five, I'm odd. I'm one of the unlucky ones, or royally envied. What am I?

 
 
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5:08 PM
@msh210 CCCC: I think it's NENE where "Sandwich's fowl" is the definition and NE (né) is synonymous with originally which is both on top and on the right side.
 
is that a bird?
apparently it is
it's a goose with a word like sandwich in its latin name
 
Yes, native to The Sandwich Islands (Hawaiian Islands)
 
just saw that
never hird of it
heard
I would've joined that contact game earlier but I was at work
8:00 on thursday, I wasn't registered
the one earlier this week i mean
but that has to be it
 
 
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Avi
6:30 PM
@Deusovi :( tragic
 
@Avi you got some time? We’re trying to start a Codenames game
 
Avi
uhhh, I'm currently giving feedback on my puzzle
there are a lot of possible answers so I have to deconfirm/confirm as quickly as possible
otherwise people will lose interest
 
Avi
6:45 PM
and now lunch :x
 
6:58 PM
yeah, you're defining three words with two, so you're going to have at least one word "uncovered" most of the time
 
@hexomino Close enough. It's NENE (Sandwich [Islands] fowl) = né + NE (northeastern = on top and on the right side)
 
 
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Avi
8:45 PM
Alrighty
I'm up for whatever game
 
Codenames being busy, about to start another game
 
Avi
nice timing :D
 
For some reason it doesn't show on my room list. Can you link to it, please?
@JohnDvorak or @Avi
 

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@user58 Or you. :-) Thanks!
 
8:48 PM
:)
 
9:19 PM
@msh210 Ah yes, okay, I thought it was a little strange the way I interpreted it.
CCCC: Dinosaur's head and tail both included in hybrid mix-up. (6)
 
MU(D_+_D)LE
 
59 seconds.
 
@Deusovi Wow, too fast!
 
Avi
whattt
 
I really thought that would throw people off.
 
9:25 PM
It threw me off a bit at first
but then I realized that "dinosaur's head and tail both included in hybrid" wouldn't work as a definition
there were no deletions I could see, so the natural assumption was that "mix-up" couldn't be an anagram indicator - it must be the definition
 
Avi
dinosaur's head and tail = ?
 
and then "dinosaur's head and tail" had only two possible parsings: D_R or D_+_D
 
@Avi "Dinosaur's head" = D_; "and tail" = _D
 
Avi
oooh, sneaky!
 
@Deusovi Very good.
 
9:29 PM
very nice clue!
Seems like it's my turn then - the only clue I have immediately available is an incredibly gimmicky one
anyone in the mood for a game of "the answer's obvious but how does the parsing work"?
 
Avi
sure
 
@Deusovi I live for the gimmicks :)
 
CCCC: Bone near the ear canal's start, essentially to be taken in by (maybe) all humans (7 or 5 or 6)
 
the answer is indeed obvious
and if you've really managed to get all the "obvious" things as answers then that's impressive indeed
 
(I apologize for any questionable bits - I've tried to make it as un-questionable (non-questionable?) as possible, but there are certainly some less-than-elegant parts)
 
9:39 PM
so perhaps the parsing for the 7 is that "essentially to be taken in by X Y" means "Y inside the outermost letters of X", which with X=maybe and Y=all yields MALLE, plus US ("humans") for MALLEUS
 
that wasn't the intended parsing - I wouldn't use that without a comma
 
I don't like it either :-).
 
Avi
what's the "obvious" answer?
 
ANVIL, STAPES, MALLEUS
three bones in the inner ear; the def for any of them could be "bone", "bone near the ear", "bone near the ear canal" or "bone near the ear canal's start"
 
Avi
Isn't it Incus Stapes Malleus
 
9:42 PM
oh, could well be INCUS instead of ANVIL
which has the advantage of having a C in it
so perhaps that one's C (canal's start) inside (essentially to be taken) [IN (in) + (by) US (maybe all humans)]
 
Avi
7 or 5 or 6 probably sets the order, so would it be MALLEUSINCUSSTAPES or MALLEUSORINCUSORSTAPES
oh, what?
 
no, I think this is a clue with multiple parsings
 
Avi
does it clue all of them?
 
each of which yields one of those bones
 
Avi
ohhhh, interesting
Your parsing for INCUS seems right
 
9:45 PM
close enough - "essentially to be taken in" is the insertion indicator, "by" is IN (as in a deadline -- e.g. "I want this done [by/in] three hours from now")
 
ah, and presumably STAPES is ST + APES where APES is "maybe all humans" or something of the sort, though the ST isn't very clear to me yet
maybe it's S(-tar)T with "essentially to be taken in" meaning to remove the insides
 
Avi
M= Maybe, + ALL=ALL + US=humans, to be taken in by = indicator for container, start, essentially = E
 
I don't think M=maybe is possible
 
@GarethMcCaughan once again, close enough: "essentially to be taken" means "with middle letters removed", and "in by" means "near" (it's a regional usage, but it's one I've seen occasionally)
 
9:48 PM
and Avi's parsing for the last is correct ("maybe" = M is something I've definitely seen)
 
(please don't take any disapproving noises too seriously; getting anything even remotely like satisfactory wordplay yielding all three of those is astonishing)
but, still, eww squared for M=maybe
 
Avi
yey
If i think of a clever CC in the next 5 minutes I'll tell you
 
I could've used "men (all humans)" there, but I thought "maybe" worked better? I didn't realize there was a problem with "maybe = M"
 
I suggest that Avi, having got the last (hence presumably most difficult) component, should set the next CCCC.
Maybe there's no problem with maybe->M. But I don't remember ever seeing it before and it seems pretty arbitrary to me.
 
I was going to suggest that you do it (because I thought the ST might be more difficult), but either is fine by me.
(I've seen it in the same context as "yes/no" -> Y/N, which is relatively common AFAIK.)
 
9:51 PM
Y/N was my best guess at how it might make any sense :-).
 
Avi
This list doesn't seem to have M = Maybe
 
(and yeah, I agree it's less than ideal, but I'm happy that I got it to work out this well - worked on this clue on and off for a few hours)
 
Avi
Neither does this list
 
As I said, it's astonishing that it works anywhere near as well as it does.
 
oh wow it's not on the big list of mostly-questionable indicators
 
Avi
9:52 PM
yeah, strange :P
 
Thank you! Glad you (mostly) enjoyed it
 
Avi
CCCC: Vegetable sprinkle (6)
 
PEPPER (ddef)
 
Avi
wow
that was fast
 
8 seconds.
 
Avi
9:55 PM
sadness
I was hoping for at least 60
looks like he has to come up with another one :P
 
yeah, I was sharing that first one so I didn't need to come up with another, but looks like I have to anyway
 
Avi
could've waited until you came up with another to burst my bubble
;)
is "Introducing" a valid hidden word indicator?
 
hm, I don't think so - it can't really be interpreted as a word being inside another word/phrase
 
Avi
10:14 PM
Excitement, according to some, grows on farm (6)
PEP + PER
anyways, I'm going back to codenames until next C4 is out
:D
 
10:57 PM
CCCC: Viral story has the same text (8)
 
Avi
11:09 PM
is "has the same text" a valid indicator for an anagram?
Siraj Raval comes to mind in the context of plagiarism, but it's not quite the same letters
 
Avi
11:55 PM
feels like "STARDOMS" to me, but I can't seem to find a mapping
probably a good sign that I'm wrong
 

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