IG Nobel prize awarded for pizza medical research

@HaraldHanche-Olsen A ground-breaking publication

@CarLaTeX Too bad they did not find any health benefits. I didn’t read beyond the abstract; but being Italians, I expect they didn’t try pizza topping.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen I'm wondering if they did different samples based on the topping, I think topping is the main issue for that research :)

@CarLaTeX Could be. Gotta go, long car trip. No time to look closer.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Bye :)

Should I warn this user it is not polite to solicit a response 7 minutes after the first request? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/508117/…

@CarLaTeX You folks certainly put a lot of effort into your answers.

@FaheemMitha No, not much, it's likely a duplicate :)

@MarcelKrüger ah thanks I saw parts of that discussion on the luaotfload tracker but I didn't follow the details.

@UlrikeFischer github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/pull/745

@HenriMenke wow. I'm not sure that I have the time to test before monday. How do one install a test pgf? Is there a tds somewhere?

@UlrikeFischer The PGF repo is in TDS format.

@HenriMenke ah right. Then it should be easy to integrate.

@UlrikeFischer Are you using TeX Live?

@HenriMenke I have both systems.

@UlrikeFischer Because the CI spits out packages for TeX Live which you can install like tlcontrib. I just pushed the changes to my master branch so the repo should be updated in about 20 to 30 mins.

$ tlmgr repository add hmenke.github.io/pgf/tlnet pgf-devel-hmenke
$ tlmgr pinning add pgf-devel-hmenke "*"
$ tlmgr update --self --all
$ tlmgr install pgf --reinstall

@egreg all my work prepping the OP then you jump in with the inevitable % at end of line tick:-)

@DavidCarlisle ooh

@HenriMenke I don't need this. I can simply do register-root path/to/gitpgf. I can already compile with it, but the changes seem not be there yet on github - I see not difference in my example.

@DavidCarlisle Could I miss it?

@UlrikeFischer You have to checkout the tikz@text@width branch from my hmenke GitHub.

@UlrikeFischer github.com/hmenke/pgf/tree/tikz%40text%40width

@HenriMenke ^^^^ ;-)

@UlrikeFischer Looks good. And now with all the other formats :)

@UlrikeFischer And please leave your review on the PR.

@HenriMenke and I see you saved me from having to answer the question which triggered the question.

@DavidCarlisle Frank Mittelbach, turning café into tofu since 2019 :-)

@PhelypeOleinik ?

@PhelypeOleinik LOL

@PhelypeOleinik Also vaping.

@FaheemMitha Frank suggested making pdfLaTeX print a box with the unicode codepoint of undefined characters (which is apparently called tofu) in addition to the error message "the character U+ABCD" is not set up for use with LaTeX". And David left this comment under a question. Supposedly the é in café becomes a tofu if undefined :-)

@PauloCereda Vaping?

@PauloCereda (To me one always have to explain the joke :-)

@PhelypeOleinik one for a real café. :)

@PhelypeOleinik but it is defined, just that in OT1 it's not defined to be anything that anyone would call a string, rather a load of box and length assignments to insert an accent over a base letter:-) (I still don't understand the tofu name)

@PhelypeOleinik Thank you for the explanation.

If that is a joke, I believe it's what is sometimes termed an in-joke.

@PauloCereda espresso goes well after a pineapple pizza for the authentic Italian experience.

@DavidCarlisle Which brings me to the point (and let's hope @PhelypeOleinik backs me on this) that the espresso spelling drives me crazy. I don't care it's a Italian word, we write expresso and that's it. :)

@DavidCarlisle Why restrict oneself? Combine expresso and pizza for expresso pizza. The ultimate experience.

@DavidCarlisle want to offend a Brazilian barista? Ask for a média when asking for a latte (@PhelypeOleinik true experience!).

@PauloCereda "espresso" is truly odd :-)

@PauloCereda I'm listening reading :-)

@PhelypeOleinik I did this once, inadvertedly. Almost got removed from the café.

@PauloCereda you could always call it "Turkish coffee" I'm sure @CarLaTeX would agree with that designation.

@PhelypeOleinik have you ever heard of café curto?

@PhelypeOleinik hmmm now I want some miso soup.

@PhelypeOleinik ah so it is bean curd after all:-)

@PauloCereda I call it "not enough coffee" :-)

@PhelypeOleinik LOL

@DavidCarlisle, @PhelypeOleinik ^^ 3:37 please

@PauloCereda LOL

@PauloCereda Too complicated for me :P

@DavidCarlisle Apparently the Noto font is short for no tofu :-)

@PhelypeOleinik LOL

@HenriMenke are you using a custom repository? Care to answer this question? I would add a bounty if the magical rep points would entice you.

@PauloCereda That's what Wikipedia says, so it must be true.

@PhelypeOleinik :)

@DavidCarlisle Like Chinese spaghetti

@CarLaTeX original source on both cases?

@PauloCereda Stereotypes all absolutely true!

@DavidCarlisle Fake news on both cases :P

@barbarabeeton flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/albums/72157686396348231/…

@PauloCereda have you see twitter.com/iCatija/status/1169466599432056832?s=20

stackoverflow makes duck stickers.

@StrongBad OH MY

@PauloCereda Corto or ristretto or basso

@egreg ooh

@PauloCereda And you can instead have your coffee “lungo” or “alto”. However, “basso” and “alto” are typical of Tuscany and may not be understood elsewhere.

@egreg I might need you around when ordering coffee in Italy. :)

@PauloCereda Caffè doppio in tazza grande, macchiato con poca schiuma.

@egreg Una Coca-Cola per favore. :)

Trivia: the only Coca-Cola I drank abroad was from GB...

@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle ^^

@PauloCereda come to Prague!

We have a Czech-made coke with plum syrop being one of the ingredients

@egreg "basso" non l'avevo mai sentito

@PauloCereda If you order a caffè basso in Milan, the barman laughs

@CarLaTeX Prova a Pisa.

@MarcelKrüger I'm just running the test for luaotfload. I think the only new thing is the invisible char stuff right? Should we nevertheless call it version 3.0 or should I go back to 2.992?

@MarcelKrüger we lost the dummy font ;-(

@CarLaTeX -- We were at the award ceremony. In the acceptance speech, the speaker did say something about "don't eat pepperoni", but didn't mention any other ingredients.

@DavidCarlisle, @UlrikeFischer Building for CTAN

@MarcelKrüger actually it is not lost. But \font\testname={Dummy Font Name Bold} now fails (\font\testfamily={Dummy Font Family/B} still works). has something changed here?

@UlrikeFischer You have to clear the cache because the font now lives in the local folder and scan-local is "moderatly reliable". We also have the multiscript stuff, but we still weren't sure about the interface...

@barbarabeeton If pepperoni are salame piccante, it's likely they are right, salame is not very healthy, but very good!

@MarcelKrüger now the test passed. I have a failure for luatex-ja, but I think this not our fault, the result looks ok.

@UlrikeFischer luatex-yes :)

/sad trombone

@PauloCereda trombone is not sad, it's one of the nicest organ stops :)

@yo' ooh :)

@PauloCereda ;-)

@PauloCereda it's very deep but very powerful!

@JosephWright fncylab sent to ctan

@DavidCarlisle Great

@DavidCarlisle Running test suite here

@UlrikeFischer should I just build hyperref as it is? (still using the old build script so l3build check failing doesn't actually stop anything)

@DavidCarlisle sure the four luaotfload-failures don't matter imho. They are clearly not hyperref related.

I'm running the luaotfload tests. Takes some time too ...

So, I was looking for a tool to rotate PDFs, because back in April, I tried using GIMP, and it was a disaster. (Rasterizing is the spawn of Satan.)

It turns out the answer, is, apparently (wait for it...)

TeX.

Either ConTeXt or LaTeX. Apparently ConTeXt improbably has a --rotate argument. How weird is that?

@FaheemMitha not very weird at all, there are several pdf tools that just use pdflatex bhind the scenes

Oh, and...

@DavidCarlisle Yes, but a --rotate argument?

I wonder how ConTeXt manages it.

So, does TeX have magical powers? Just wondering.

@FaheemMitha it's not very difficult since it has to have a pdf reader anyway to include pdf images and it has to have a pdf writer to write its normal pdf output and changing the default orientation is only adding a line to the pdf

@DavidCarlisle Oh, is it? Hmm. I never did learn those languages.

@FaheemMitha have a look a the pdfjam utility which can do several related things (and is a shell script hiding pdftex)

@FaheemMitha see tex.stackexchange.com/questions/437123/…

@DavidCarlisle Yes, I've used pdfjam to change the paper size. It's possibly the only thing that works.

Hmm, turns out I don't have ConTeXt installed.

Clearly I'm just a slave to convention.

@JosephWright @UlrikeFischer I really shouldn't have the hyperref build echoing to the terminal, then I wouldn't see this scrolling past

[119] [120] [121] [122] [123] [124] [125] [126] [127] [128] [129] [130]
(./fdl.tex [131] [132] [133] [134] [135] [136]) [137] [138] (./manual.aux
(./fdl.aux)) )
(\end occurred when \ifnum on line 2342 was incomplete)
(\end occurred when \ifnum on line 2315 was incomplete)
(\end occurred when \ifnum on line 2294 was incomplete)
(\end occurred when \ifnum on line 2292 was incomplete)
Output written on manual.dvi (138 pages, 628396 bytes).
Transcript written on manual.log.

@DavidCarlisle ;-(

I suppose I should look at line 2342....

@UlrikeFischer anybody know anything about htlatex:-)

@DavidCarlisle ? what is htlatex?

@UlrikeFischer tex4ht

@DavidCarlisle oh. You need Michal.

@UlrikeFischer which apparently doesn't like \\* in longtables

@DavidCarlisle are we speeking about hyperref or some question on the main site??

@UlrikeFischer hyperref try running htlatex manual in the doc directory

@DavidCarlisle oh, it tries to create an html version?

@UlrikeFischer I realise that you never look at documentation but anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/…

@DavidCarlisle ;-) I'm trapped into "texdoc xy" ;-)

@UlrikeFischer I'm tempted to ignore this, the error is only with htlatex and the longtable seems to have converted to html OK, and it has probably always had that ifnum error, I'll try to make a smaller example to report to tex4ht later

@DavidCarlisle good plan.

@PauloCereda I think @UlrikeFischer is to blame.

@DavidCarlisle ooh

@DavidCarlisle no no

@PauloCereda didn't you mean Urlike?

@UlrikeFischer ooh

@PauloCereda as you found, the only person who ever said you were not mean is you

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@JosephWright @UlrikeFischer hyperref gone to ctan

@DavidCarlisle that faster than luaotfload. We should switch.

@UlrikeFischer You can have oberdiek

@UlrikeFischer mkctan script is a lot quicker than l3build ctan as it omits all those pesky tests:-)

@DavidCarlisle yes that's a bit of nuisance - if something fails you have to restart. But one can blame @JosephWright here ...

@UlrikeFischer Deliberate design decision to avoid releases without testing

grr where is rst2man gone again???

@UlrikeFischer I renamed something there to get it in line with the Travis names...

@MarcelKrüger oh I can blame you ;-)

@MarcelKrüger if I add the .py extension in the build.lua it compiles for me. Is this a problem on travis? Then we would need some test.

@MarcelKrüger How is the release on github triggered? Should I add a tag when the ctan upload is ready?

@JosephWright which is a good idea really

@DavidCarlisle Speaking of which, I have a test failure

@JosephWright which one?

@DavidCarlisle The filename one: I think it's the Windows setting business

@UlrikeFischer Yes, a release currently is triggered by tags. Adding .py fails on Travis and it feels odd anyway.

@MarcelKrüger ok, so when I made a ctan upload I will add a tag v3.0. I need the .py extension on windows, rst2man doesn't run without it.

@MarcelKrüger I think I will use the if os.env["CONTEXTPATH"] then test which I think it specific to my system. OK?