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12:13 AM

Should we start considering questions specific to 14.04 off-topic? I haven't seen any question related 14.04 asked after 17 April getting closed as off topic.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

12:54 AM

@Kulfy Doesn't 14.04 get some sort of extension if they pay extra?

Kulfy

1:07 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix They do but AFAIK ESM isn't supported here on Ask Ubuntu. It's a Canonical Ltd.'s thing.

Like 12.04 reached EOL in 2017 but it's ESM is ending in April 2019 (which is also about to end). Thomas announced it as off-topic in 2017.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

1:29 AM

@Kulfy Hmm... So we have to Ask Ubuntu (Canonical) if ESM is supported on Ask Ubuntu? :/ I tend to agree with you but still one has to wonder... If you purchase extended life support do you escape EOL (End of Life)? If so you and I have no way to verify a question "I have Ubuntu 14.04 with ESM to avoid EOL and this problem occurred..."

Kulfy

Canonical’s Ubuntu security team provide fixes on high and critical CVEs (common vulnerabilities and exposures) for the most commonly used server packages in the Ubuntu main archive. ESM provides the essential continuation of the security updates for 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) and 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) that Ubuntu users have always received via a secure, private archive.

@WinEunuuchs2Unix They get security updates only via private archives. So we don't know which version of which package is available, which packages are still supported, what package is causing problems (probably that's why user is on AU). I am not sure about ubuntuforums but here it is off-topic.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

2:14 AM

@Kulfy My Ubuntu 14.04 is borked on my third laptop so personally I'm not effected. Apart from that I'm on 16.04 and Kernel chain 4.14 LTS so good for a few more years. I agree with your 14.04 + ESM analysis.

Kulfy

2:53 AM

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Is it on kernel 4.14? I thought it must be on 4.15 since on launchpad xenial got bionic's kernel on 2nd August. My bionic is running on 4.15 and I occasionally use xenial mostly in VM.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Kulfy 4.14 is a LTS kernel for 5 years. Currently I'm on 4.14.110 but just downloaded 4.14.114.

St. Louis Blues just beat Dallas Stars (I digress :))

Kulfy

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Oh you compiled yourself?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Kulfy Haha no I'm too lazy to compile a kernel. Here:kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.14.114

I like to stick to the same LTS kernel chain. The other ones like 4.15, 4.16, 4.17, 4.18, 4.19 and 4.20 seem to disappear overnight and it's too hard to read up on developments in Linux World. If that makes any sense?

Kulfy

I tried to compile kernel about a year ago and got lots of error. I used to think that once Ubuntu releases kernel for their release, it the responsibility of Ubuntu to modify and minimize bugs. Was I missing something?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

I dunno. I've only compiled small things like drivers and grub. Nothing big like the kernel.

Compiling grub was a headache but I did manage to change countdown timer from 1 second intervals to 1/10th second units: stackoverflow.com/questions/51341871/…

Zanna

3:09 AM

@Kulfy you got lots of errors compiling, or when using the kernel?

Kulfy

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Is it BURG?

@Zanna During compilation. I tried a year back. It was something like Deb error. Felt too lazy to even try again.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Kulfy The only thing I know about Burg is it's Grub spelled backwards. No It's grub I compiled. Kind of fun but I don't want to do it again.

Zanna

Compiling stuff is hard

I've compiled the vanilla kernel a number of times

the errors I got on early attempts were easily resolved by installing packages

but the Ubuntu kernel has way more drivers than any kernel I compiled. I was using a .config someone wrote for my device, with only the drivers it actually needs

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Yeah compiling grub requires all these preconditions be set and options invoked. It took awhile to find the one line of code to be changed granted, but a super long time to dot the i's and cross the t's for successful compilation.

Kulfy

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I haven't used BURG. I only heard about it. I started using Linux in 2015 and developed interest in late 2016. I heard that BURG was discontinued in 2010.

Zanna

3:15 AM

I had to compile GRUB to get my first ever Ubuntu to boot :/

I knew nothing

fortunately someone had written perfect instructions

all the commands Just Worked

the hard part was getting to the point where I could run them by booting from the GRUB command line

WinEunuuchs2Unix

@Zanna Good for you compiling grub as a newbie :) My problems were compound because I downloaded normal.386 source but had EFI platform. I'd do it differently next time around.

Zanna

I had the instructions, but it took me a long time to figure out that I needed to swap some things there for my own root partition and kernel version, and what to enter, since I had only the vaguest idea what a partition or a kernel was haha

WinEunuuchs2Unix

just after I figured out what a partition was I read about LVM and HDD to SSD caching.... groans... back to square one on knowledge front :)

I guess it's similar to that old saying.... the more you know, the more you know you don't know.

Zanna

that one is true

WinEunuuchs2Unix

You don't post nearly as much as you used to Zanna. Still in India?

Zanna

3:25 AM

It's sad that I don't post. Time issues, life issues

still in India :)

WinEunuuchs2Unix

Having a life is a good thing :). Remember rainy season for India is May like I said a month ago or so.

Zanna

It might rain, but I don't think it is the rainy season in May in this region

Government has declared drought also

Kulfy

@WinEunuuchs2Unix I'm an Indian. Basically here in North India rainy season is in mid of July when saavan (shravan) or say monsoon actually arrives.

We do have Shivratri too in that month.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

You are both lucky. Michael Bloomberg saved you :)

Zanna

that's bad

we need rain

@Kulfy Oh I thought it was in April. Does it vary by region, or does it come more than once per year?

WinEunuuchs2Unix

3:33 AM

I think Iran stole all of India's rain a fortnight ago

Zanna

doubtless they needed it even more

WinEunuuchs2Unix

haha no they got flooded billions in damaged, plus sanctions from US they couldn't get goods into country

Zanna

:(

Kulfy

@Zanna It is celebrated 2 times in a year. One is Mahashivratri in Feb-Mar and one is Shivratri in Jul-Aug. They both have their significance.

WinEunuuchs2Unix

they have a beautiful country though with wonderful people and architecture, I'm sure Iran is doing OK. How do you do a right mouse click using keyboard?

Kulfy

3:38 AM

For Saavan's Shivratri, read m.timesofindia.com/life-style/events/… and for Feb's Shivratri read en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maha_Shivaratri

Zanna

Tomorrow cyclone Fani will pass close to us and perhaps bring no rain but higher temperatures (higher than 40 C)... then it seems she will hit eastern states and Bangladesh. I hope everyone will be ok :(

@Kulfy fast on Mondays to get a good husband :D

WinEunuuchs2Unix

There is another old saying "all the good ones are taken"

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4:16 AM

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Q: mktemp: too few X's in template if there are two sets of X in file name

I am using Xenial ubuntu. The bash version is GNU bash, version 4.3.48(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) I am getting this error mktemp: too few X's in template when my shell script executes this command mktemp /tmp/1556580619403-0/duplicate.XXXXXXX.BABj9f0X1bg_work_DADYj9GphRM2_page0_preview.png...

Kulfy

6:36 AM

@Zanna I don't know the explanation but I think it has some significance. Might be a good question for Hinduism SE

Melebius

7:04 AM

Hi, I VTC’ed askubuntu.com/q/1136284/250300 as a dupe of askubuntu.com/q/148638/250300 but later @Kulfy warned me I was wrong and I removed my close vote. Later the question was closed as a dupe with a correct target but the wrong one still appears in the targets, moreover as the first one. Could a mod edit it out (if it’s worth that work)?

Kulfy

7:25 AM

@Melebius I think flagging the question for mod attention is a better option. They'll have a record and a mod who is away from chat but active on site can act on it.

Melebius

@Kulfy OK, I’ll do that.

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Kulfy

@Melebius :)

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