Root Access

Bob

12:09 AM

@MichaelFrank at least we know "the system" works?

Michael Frank

Yea, I glad it got caught.

I glad? -_-

bwDraco

12:33 AM

@allquixotic: tomshardware.com/news/…

allquixotic

@bwDraco thanks... good news my Blade is off right now

Michael Frank

What's that brick in the image at the top of the article?

bwDraco

Razer Power Bank. Sadly, seems to be discontinued.

Michael Frank

Ahh okay

bwDraco

amazon.com/dp/B07KS5Z8GL

(the Jackery model I have seems to be discontinued, oddly enough; this is probably the best replacement)

45W on the USB Type-C port if it's the only device attached; 30W if there's also a device on the Type-A port. Can charge via either the Type-C port, or the Micro-B port (with Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 support).

allquixotic

12:45 AM

my use cases for my RB15 are vanishingly small now that I have a Macbook Pro with Vega Pro 20 that can natively run ESO (the ESO Mac port uses MoltenVK: native engine written in Vulkan and translated at runtime to Metal)

I suppose if I ever get into Star Citizen, I doubt they will release for any platform besides Windows

but that laptop will probably be obsolete by the time SC releases

Michael Frank

Windows 20*

allquixotic

lol

Michael Frank

Serious question, is SC ever releasing? Or is everyone just holding on to that sunk cost belief?

Like, I still get the emails about new ships that you can buy now, but... when do you get to fly these ships?

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank this is as unanswerable a question as the Halting Problem

we don't know if SC will ever "halt" development and actually release unless we wait for it to release; and we could potentially wait forever

Michael Frank

Yea, I see what you mean there.

allquixotic

12:54 AM

of course, many/most games developed internally as AAA titles have an indefinite development schedule like Star Citizen's, that vaguely resembles "Development Hell" (like Duke Nukem Forever)

Team Fortress 2, Starcraft 2, most Elder Scrolls games, and even some really small games spend like 5-15 years in development

just, some of those don't even get announced publicly until they're fairly polished

bwDraco

FFXV, too.

allquixotic

whereas we learned about Star Citizen when they only had some concept art

Michael Frank

Yea, I suppose a KS game runs by a different set of milestones.

allquixotic

a lot of games also get developed in a very tightly bounded schedule and released on-time and on-budget, but those usually have a very clear direction, an extremely rigidly defined game mechanics that is decided on and finalized super early (to give the devs time to build around them), and they don't keep throwing out old engine code to rewrite it for better graphics every 5 years

bwDraco

Star Citizen might be too ambitious for its own good. They're burning through cash at an insane rate, which is only possible because there are people willing to sink tens of thousands of dollars into supporting the development of the game.

allquixotic

12:56 AM

and many of those games end up being good but feeling a little short because they were so tightly timeboxed and managed (which is good and bad)

basically you can be extremely conservative, release fewer features, only bite off what you know you can chew, and don't start proper development until you have completely finalized the design, and release on-time and on-budget in a couple years, and often those games turn out being very good but having enormous room for improvement in terms of more content/mechanics that were conservatively cut

or you can be open-ended and keep adding new things as you think of ideas as you go along, and that process can take 10 years or even longer until you finally settle down and decide to release the damn thing

star citizen is in the latter camp

bwDraco

Feature creep.

In the 60s, Marvin Minsky assigned a couple of undergrads to spend the summer programming a computer to use a camera to identify objects in a scene. He figured they'd have the problem solved by the end of the summer. Half a century later, we're still working on it.

allquixotic

Star Citizen has chosen to combine the design and development phases, and to feed back community suggestions (and their own whims) into the design, which impacts development and production downstream

other cost-controlled and time-controlled games finalize the design and actively refuse to break their design based on player feedback for time's sake

bwDraco

> In CS, it can be hard to explain the difference between the easy and the virtually impossible.

allquixotic

1:15 AM

10.14.5 Beta 2

wish I could somehow efficiently use all those cards together to do real-time 3d rendering :(

they can definitely all be used for GPGPU workloads but not for 3d due to latency

and state sharing needs

Michael Frank

1:27 AM

That's a beefy MBP...

bwDraco

@allquixotic Radeon VII. Wow.

I'm wondering if the Thunderbolt 3 link is a bottleneck...

bwDraco

2:54 AM

pcmag.com/news/367659/…

5G technology works... but barely. The technology needs significant work in both deployment of cell sites and software updates for it to be viable.

The limitations of mmWave are also readily apparent. Performance drops off rapidly with distance, and can degrade below 4G LTE speeds when indoors.

Again, a combination of software updates, hardware improvements, and further deployment is required.

T-Mobile hasn't said much about when 5G will be ready. They're playing the long game, focusing on improving the existing LTE network and ensuring that 5G will perform well even if it launches much later than other carriers' networks, rather than racing to be first and launching it in an immature state.

T-Mobile has relatively modern LTE-A infrastructure so it delivers excellent performance in urban environments, but still doesn't have the level of coverage that Verizon and AT&T offer outside of major cities. In areas with weaker coverage, a newer device with low-band LTE support is often necessary to get usable T-Mobile service.

If T-Mobile and Sprint do merge, rollout of 5G should be rapidly accelerated, but I have mixed thoughts about how this will affect consumers because we would have only three major players rather than four.

Journeyman Geek

4:15 AM

@allquixotic Technically most hardware is obsolete the moment you buy it ;p

rahuldottech

5:53 AM

I've said this before, I'll say it again

5G is a gimmick. It's not required at all. No one asked for it. And companies should be working on innovating other tech rather than spending time getting 5g to work

@MichaelFrank yeah, but who doesn't talk to their pregnant wife for three days?

I'd be freaking out if I was in her position, not knowing if my husband, who lives in a different country got hit by a car or something

> Suicidal behavior has nearly doubled among children aged 5 to 18, with suicidal thoughts and attempts leading to more than 1.1 million ER visits in 2015 -- up from about 580,000 in 2007, according to an analysis of U.S. data.

As someone who is in that age bracket, I'm not surprised at all.

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1:41 PM

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allquixotic

2:07 PM

@rahuldottech I disagree. 5G is giving us access to more and new spectrum that we didn't have before. Having extreme "speeds" doesn't necessarily mean everyone will use it, but if the tower has the capacity to deliver those speeds to one user, it can also, equivalently, deliver 4G speeds to hundreds or thousands of users. We definitely need as much cellular spectrum as we can get.

The whole reason why 4G data is so limited, with "limited unlimited" gotchas and data caps and throttling, is because we don't have enough spectrum for everyone to stream Youtube or Netflix constantly on it.

Adding more spectrum relieves pressure on the network, even if people aren't using the new bandwidth at maximum speeds constantly (in fact, if everyone did use the new speeds at line speed constantly, there wouldn't be enough spectrum for everyone, again).

But for existing workloads that you expect to work on 4G, they should take less time and be more reliable once 5G is fully rolled out

There's no reason to deny technological progress unless you are a luddite :-)

Some future 8K or 16K HDR video standard that people still can't see the improvement in (except psychologically thinking "WOW 8K HDR!") will probably again lead to congestion on the network, but for at least a few years, after 5G is stabilized and before the 8K / 16K video watchers hog the rest of the spectrum, it should be the best cellular network you've ever experienced.

djsmiley2k

grrr

'User requested delete' really isn't useful output >_<

rahuldottech

3:13 PM

GUYS

THEY LIKED THE ARTICLE I WROTE FOR THEM!

I'm GONNA GET PAAAAAAAID!

Journeyman Geek

Pay good

rahuldottech

3:30 PM

@JourneymanGeek pay v good

@JourneymanGeek Hm, 400 USD for five articles? Sounds pretty good to me actually

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech yup

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Should be enough to buy a decent laptop for college?

(no GPU required - just great battery and should be lightweight)

Journeyman Geek

Ah. Probably

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek yay :):)

Okay no, apparently I'll need double that

welp, should be manageable

bwDraco

IMO the biggest perk of 5G is its ability to cope with lots and lots of devices at once. LTE gets really slow in crowded environments. 5G can get you a fast connection even in the most crowded transit terminals at the peak of rush hour.

Bob

3:46 PM

@rahuldottech Deeeeeeeeeeeeeepends.

400 USD can probably just barely get you a Core-M lappy.

Which I find perfectly fine as a consumer device.

rahuldottech

@Bob Nah, I'd like a 7th gen+ i5+

Bob

But I wouldn't like using it for dev work.

rahuldottech

Yeah, this will probably be my daily driver for at least three or four years, so...

Bob

Well, beyond the basics anyway.

@rahuldottech Hey, the laptop I've been carrying around for 3 years is a Core-M.

rahuldottech

(I'm still using the last laptop I bought in 2015)

@Bob Yeah, but you also have a desktop setup, unlike me

Bob

3:49 PM

:|

djsmiley2k

/me waves fist at sky

(1632): ENCR(1632): Next payload: DELETE, reserved: 0x0, length: 52

rahuldottech

@Bob I do actually have a sorta decent desktop PC, and a couple all-in-ones, but they're all either in Bhutan or were packed away and kept in storage before I went to Bhutan

djsmiley2k

IKEv2-PLAT-4: (3940): session manager killed ikev2 tunnel. Reason: User Requested

WAHHHHHHHHHHA

WHYYYYYYYY

Bob

@djsmiley2k Why are you deleting payloads

rahuldottech

I'll see about getting at least one back, but don't know if I'll be able to.

Bob

3:52 PM

Oh. Tunnels.

One of these days I'll brush up on all the IPsec stuff :P

djsmiley2k

Not me

connecting side, they connect, talks a bit, goes 'nah mate' and disconnects

/me continues to glare at it

bertieb

@djsmiley2k user requested it, clearly :P

bwDraco

@rahuldottech Any recent Intel Core-based system will do. I wouldn't go with AMD if battery life is a concern; while they do deliver excellent performance, idle power consumption is substandard.

rahuldottech

@bwDraco tbh AMD isn't even a thing in India

djsmiley2k

I do wish there was some more published debug logs online

because.... this log doesn't help me <

bwDraco

3:58 PM

And if USB Type-C charging is an option, that'll give you more charging options, including power banks.

I'm not sure how much the second-generation Ryzen Mobile processors (Picasso) have improved on that, though I've heard it should be more competitive.

Your best option is something equipped with an 8th Gen Intel Core processor. For college usage, you don't really need anything more than a Core i3, but if you have higher performance requirements, you may need to get a larger system with more capable cooling and a Core i5 or i7.

rahuldottech

@bwDraco I also do dev work, m8

So yeah, i5 or 7

That Brazilian Guy

Damn, alternativeto.net is down! +_+'

bwDraco

U-series Core i7 is probably your best bet. If you need more power, there's the H-series, but those are high-power chips that require a much larger system, and battery life will suffer as these processors are designed for performance over efficiency.

I'd point you to a 15" thin-and-light system, but I don't know what India's PC market is like.

brb.

Canadian Luke

5:13 PM

@ThatBrazilianGuy Not for me

rahuldottech

They sent me a ten page contract in legalese

Do I have to read this?

djsmiley2k

6:20 PM

@CanadianLuke nor me

Brazil, got internets?

djsmiley2k

6:57 PM

whaaaaaaaaaaaa

That Brazilian Guy

8:00 PM

Anyone online?

I need to check if DO is blocking outgoing port 25

bertieb

@ThatBrazilianGuy Moi o/

That Brazilian Guy

@bertieb Don't you have an IP where you can quickly fire up an SMTP server for a couple minutes just so I can check if Digital Ocean is blocking outgoing connections to port 25, by any chance?

Canadian Luke

@ThatBrazilianGuy I run mail servers on DO, no issues for me. In the TOR1 data center

bertieb

@ThatBrazilianGuy Sure, got a docker command I can run to get one?

tries to remember which IP his Docker host lives on

Or I could do something quick and pythonny

That Brazilian Guy

@bertieb I use this: hub.docker.com/r/mailhog/mailhog

it uses port 1025 so you'll have to redirect 25->1025. And it also has a nice web interface on port 8025

In fact I use it for dev testing, it's quite nice

And it's a dummy SMTP server, so no issues of accidentaly sending spams

@CanadianLuke This client is on nic1

bertieb

8:15 PM

Got a containerd issue, 2 ticks

Right, sorted that

Oh, okay, it's running

Remind me how I test it locally? telnet localhost 1025 doesn't work

(the docs pages 404)

That Brazilian Guy

@bertieb show me your docker ps output

bertieb

CONTAINER ID        IMAGE               COMMAND             CREATED             STATUS              PORTS                NAMES
eb4125615b57        mailhog/mailhog     "MailHog"           3 minutes ago       Up 3 minutes        1025/tcp, 8025/tcp   vibrant_goldberg

That Brazilian Guy

@bertieb hm, here's your issue, its ports are only internal. Stop and rm the container and run this:

bertieb

Ah, I thought the expose bit in the dockerfile exposed the ports, whoops

That Brazilian Guy

docker run -d -p 25:1025 -p 8025:8025 --rm mailhog/mailhog

bertieb

8:25 PM

Ther we go

Will forward ports

That Brazilian Guy

@bertieb The -p 25:1025 -p 8025:8025 takes care of that ;-)

bertieb

@ThatBrazilianGuy I mean to this server... it's LAN'd

unless you can test over IPv6?

That Brazilian Guy

Oh ok

@bertieb No IPv6 here =/

bertieb

:-\

I love v6

Righty

Working externally

That Brazilian Guy

I have zero IPv6 knowledge (shame shame shame)

bertieb

8:29 PM

Me too :P

I just love its benefits

djsmiley2k

K, I totally borked my kjindle again

Oh u what

I look at it funny, it starts working again

That Brazilian Guy

@djsmiley2k I once managed to fix a mobo by glaring at it and mentioning "you know what awaits you if you don't start working, right?"

djsmiley2k

yeah, that's essientially what just happened :D

I have no clue wtf it was doing before

the screen was updating, but remaining blank

That Brazilian Guy

8:53 PM

Yeah, turns out DO blocks port 25 by default:
https://meta.discourse.org/t/digital-ocean-is-blocking-outgoing-mail/66740/25

Canadian Luke

9:19 PM

Hmm, I likely had it unblocked when I setup my mail long ago then

bwDraco

9:46 PM

anandtech.com/show/14186/…

Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax), 2x2 MU-MIMO 5 GHz + 2x2 MU-MIMO 2.4 GHz.

No 802.11ax devices in this house, but will be watching this space very closely.

I still remember the days when 802.11n was merely a draft and all the routers were expensive. The same had happened with 802.11ac. I long for the day when you can get a basic 802.11ax solution for inside $100...

allquixotic

10:53 PM

@bwDraco bleh. I bought into the immature 802.11ad 60 GHz and it went nowhere

I haven't seen a single useful device that I'd like to own that supports it, other than my router

bwDraco

Yeah. It's sad mmWave Wi-Fi got nowhere.

Michael Frank

11:40 PM

"Hey my Excel keeps crashing when I try to update some cells"

"Okay, so you're trying to apply a formula to 15,000 rows across 62 columns? Yea... no wonder"

Journeyman Geek

11:53 PM

@allquixotic though ad wasn't very mainstream. ax is

personally I kinda want something with ax and openmesh....

(though at some point, I need to look at compiling openwrt with prplmesh (which is the FOSS openmesh implimentation) for my older routers)

@allquixotic Its pretty cheap to retrofit apparently - but I'm not sure if the antennae are different

Since the wifi on my main router is pretty terrible (as expected) I was toying with getting 802.11ad set up on that and $other_device

also, I suspect ax's 60GHz should be backwards compatible - I was using 802.11a devices on 'modern' 5ghz routers for a bit

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