English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Cerberus

03:00

Yay!

I guess the euro is the stablest currency in the world...

Kosmonaut

@Cerberus What about chickens?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus hahaha sure until Greece, Spain, et al all drop out

Cerberus

@Kosmonaut I said currency, not curry.

Or what do you mean?

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Heh.

Kosmonaut

@Cerberus You know, chickens. As currency.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus we hit parity with the US but Canadian prices stayed the same, i.e. 25-40% higher than US prices :(

Mahnax

03:02

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yeah, if you look on the back of books it will still be $18 here and $12 in the US.

Cerberus

@Kosmonaut Oh, I see. Yes. That could work. Compound interest would make them the capitalist's dream.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Prices internally?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Anyway 2x + 30 is actually an approximation of the formula to convert Celsius into Fahrenheit if you haven't figured that out yet. It works well for room-temperature values of C.

Cerberus

American stuff is usually cheaper for us too.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus yeah. Like a LEGO kit costs $99 USD in the US but $140 CAD in Canada even though the dollars are at par.

Cerberus

Right, then you can easily import it!

Kosmonaut

03:03

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I thought the formula was 9/5 * x + 32

Or something like that.

Cerberus

Lucky you.

Because nothing changed for you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Kosmonaut yeah, that's why 2x+30 is an approximation :)

Kosmonaut

I thought 9/5 * x + 32 was still an approximation, is it the exact formula?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus actually importing stuff is not necessarily easy nor is it cheap.

@Kosmonaut It's the "exact formula" that I know.

Kosmonaut

Anyway, nowadays this is the formula:

Google "xxx c in f"

Cerberus

03:05

@MrShinyandNew安宇 How do you mean? Books are so expensive here that I once imported some from Australia.

@Kosmonaut Yeah I always do that!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Books are easy. But shipping costs more and often dwarfs the price increase. Also you might have to pay import duties.

I recently bought some DVDs (actually BluRays) from amazon.com because even with shipping it was cheaper than the same from amazon.ca. But then I got hit with duties.

And I don't know of a single US vendor that will ship LEGO to Canada. Not even one.

Kosmonaut

You misspelled LEGO® :)

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Really? That is annoying.

@Kosmonaut I presume you spell Lego?

(As I do.)

Kosmonaut

@Cerberus I just meant the ® as a joke... but actually I do just spell it Lego and I'm fine saying "legos" as well. Deal with it

Cerberus

@Kosmonaut Then I understood you correctly.

And I am undecided about legos.

I just use Lego as a collective noun.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

03:10

I sometimes write LEGO sometimes Lego sometimes lego and maybe even legos. Today it's LEGO.

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Somehow you sound like Jasper.

Mahnax

@Cerberus He does…

But he needs more QED.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

BTW @Kosmonaut it seems that the Fahrenheit conversion really is 9/5x + 32. The F scale has 180 degrees between freezing and boiling points of water, compared to 100 degrees for C.

@Mahnax Who do you take me for? Robusto?

Cerberus

@Mahnax Oh yes! We have so much work to do here.

Mahnax

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Nah, you and Robusto are quite different.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

03:12

@Mahnax He QEDs a lot too

Kosmonaut

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ah ha. Wow, I remembered it exactly. I pretty much never have to actually use it, so I was pulling it from my memory banks.

Mahnax

@MrShinyandNew安宇 And you don't.

Cerberus

Remember how I kept mistaking Rob for Jasper when I was blindfolded?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mahnax I only QED when I'm explicitly imitating Jasper

Mahnax

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yeah.

Cerberus

03:13

QED.

Mahnax

Oh, I was playing with the formula for C -> F conversion today in English class.

Kosmonaut

I like how around -40 they are the same.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Anyway, I should get going. Nice to see you back, @Kosmo. will you be answering questions again? Or just chatting?

Mahnax

^ I am wondering this too.

Cerberus

> “We would propose that prioritisation be enabled for searches that contain any of the following key search terms: “mp3″, “flac”, “wma”, “aac”, “torrent”, “download”, “rip”, “stream” or “listen”, “free”, when combined with an artist name, song or album title contained on a list to be regularly updated and provided to a search engine by a recognised and properly mandated agency representing rights holders for a particular sector, such as BPI.”

Kosmonaut

03:15

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I dunno. I sort of came on here spontaneously tonight.

Cerberus

torrentfreak.com/…

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Adios!

@Kosmonaut Good, good. No pressure! Many of the regulars around here have stopped answering questions on a regular basis, notably our prime rep whore.

Only when a particular questions seems somehow interesting.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Kosmonaut well, I for one enjoyed reading your answers and hope you're here to stay. But I also know how much work a baby is, and how much fun it can be to just drop things like this site when you have a baby on your hands. So, either way, enjoy! and good luck!

bye.....

Kosmonaut

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Adieu

Cerberus

Unlike the—what did we call them?—of yore, where several of us would try to answer new questions as fast as possible.

Kosmonaut

...days?

Cerberus

03:19

I rather had some kind of violent, primal clash in mind.

But sure, days. Why not.

Kosmonaut

violent primal clashes of yore

Cerberus

Yes! That was it. I think.

Unless it was something else.

Mahnax

I feel kind of bad when I go on EL&U these days.

Kosmonaut

Something else of yore

Cerberus

Creative.

@Mahnax In what way?

Mahnax

03:21

@Cerberus Well, I go looking for questions that I want to answer, and upon finding none, go through and cast a few votes to close, downvote some things, maybe upvote a few, and then leave.

Cerberus

Oh, yes.

Understandable.

Mahnax

I should try harder to answer things.

Cerberus

As long as you don't downvote mine!

Mahnax

Never!

Cerberus

I always feel like there are enough competent people to answer most questions adequately. And I am just too lazy these days.

Mahnax

03:23

Yeah, lazy is part of it.

Also, chances are if I find a question that I want to answer, Barrie or JL will one-up me a few hours after I answer it.

Cerberus

If I laziness weren't a big part of me, I would be thin.

Mahnax

You don't look out of shape.

From what I've seen, that is.

Cerberus

@Mahnax Yeah. But Barrie's answers are often short enough that another answer can add plenty of value.

@Mahnax Not terribly, no. But I could use a few pounds.

Mahnax

@Cerberus Well, so could most.

Cerberus

I suppose.

But I matter more.

Mahnax

03:25

I hate that my highest-voted answer ever is seven words long.

Cerberus

Haha for reals?

Mahnax

Yep.

Cerberus

That's the MC for you.

Mahnax

> The word you're looking for is conclusion.

20 upvotes, 1 down.

Cerberus

What's my highest answer anyway?

Mahnax

03:26

Took me all of five seconds.

Cerberus

Well...it is conclusive.

Kosmonaut

I never liked the popularity of my answers either.

Mahnax

29

A: What is the difference between an apocalypse and a cataclysm?

Apocalypse means "revelation" in Greek, from Greek καλύπτω (kalupto) "hide" and ἀπό- (apo-) "un-". It was so used in the New Testament: the last book is called Ἀποκάλυψις Ἰωάννου in Greek, Revelation of John. It was also used for the Last Judgement, the time when the Christian God will end human ...

Kosmonaut

I often felt like some of my best ones were just in the middle of the pack and some random ones were way up top.

Cerberus

Yeah.

@Mahnax Oh yes. That one is not very interesting.

Mahnax

03:27

@Cerberus Well, it's got Greek in it.

That's worth something.

Cerberus

Althoug I must say I actually like my ranks 2–5. Except that the you one is a bit meh compared to JSB's.

Mahnax

I kind of like my "grabbed me from the arm" answer.

Cerberus

This looks funny.

Mahnax

Although my #2 answer should not be accepted.

Oh, hey!

Look at that.

Cerberus

I like it.

Mahnax

03:29

What, the scenario, or my answer?

Kosmonaut

@Cerberus Ha

Mahnax

@Kosmonaut pouts

Cerberus

@Mahnax The distribution of votes and tickmarks.

Your answer is fine.

I remember your arm answer, quite funny.

Mahnax

@Cerberus I would like it more if it didn't involve me.

Cerberus

Who cares? It's funneh!

It's just hoi polloi from the MC. What do they know?

Mahnax

03:31

Ah, that's true.

Cerberus

Oh shi...it's 5.30 am.

Kosmonaut

I'm heading to bed.

Cerberus

shakes at Kosmo It's partially your fault!

Kosmonaut

Then this will help.

Cerberus

So am I.

Mahnax

03:32

@Kosmonaut Good night, then!

Cerberus

Great seeing you again.

Do come again!

Vitaly

!!!

Mahnax

@Cerberus To you as well, good night!

Vitaly

I almost missed it.

Welcome back Kosmo!

Kosmonaut

Good night folks.

Vitaly

03:32

And good night.

Mahnax

Just in time, Vitaly!

Cerberus

@Mahnax Gracias! You too, eventually.

Mahnax

@Cerberus Eh, in some hours.

Kosmonaut

Autographs $10 a pop

Cerberus

@Kosmonaut Nighty night!

Kosmonaut

03:33

Night

Mahnax

@Kosmonaut pfft

Cerberus

Bye all! And hi @Vit!

Or the other way around!

In any case! Bye!

Mahnax

Bye!

Cerberus

poof

Mahnax

04:20

-1

Q: Want to know more words for initials Ye ,Yo, Yho ,Bha ,Bhi, Bhee ,Bhu, Bhoo ,Dha ,Pha, Fa ,Dhaa, Dhha ,Bhe, Bhay

I want to know good English words. Words starting from Ye ,Yo, Yho ,Bha ,Bhi, Bhee ,Bhu, Bhoo ,Dha ,Pha, Fa ,Dhaa, Dhha ,Bhe, Bhay. Words should be inspirational, Motivational, meaningful, joyful and all

word-choice

wat

i no speak linguiges

sory

Vitaly

@Reg While playing in a standard tournament against a WB-heavy Sycophant deck: i.imgur.com/UAJpO.png (I got 13 points outta it.)

user19161

05:29

@Mahnax Are those English words?

user19161

@Kosmonaut Oh, you're back! I was wondering which planet The Kosmonaut had gone to.

Gigili

06:53

@JasperLoy He's forward.

NinjaTurtle

07:53

1 hour later…

user19161

08:19

@NinjaTurtle Hello Feeds Mask Ninja.

NinjaTurtle

@JasperLoy Hey, how are you?

It is quite long name, suggest some innovative name :)

user19161

@NinjaTurtle TMNT?

skullpatrol

@NinjaTurtle How about "Superman"?

NinjaTurtle

Will think about Superman later :)

The first name was ThinkDifferent and then TDS, Feeds, Mask, NinjaTurtle.

user19161

@NinjaTurtle What is TDS?

user19161

08:27

@skullpatrol How about skullpatrol?

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy Sorry taken :)

NinjaTurtle

@JasperLoy Tax Deducted at Source

What about PetrolSkull?

user19161

@NinjaTurtle Hahaha.

skullpatrol

@NinjaTurtle That would be Skull on Patrol

user19161

@skullpatrol How about Skull on Fire? See Ghost Rider!

skullpatrol

08:30

or patrolling skull

NinjaTurtle

Skullpatrol names a group of Oakland Raider fans who specifically cheer for the defensive line.

Will poll for it :)

skullpatrol

@NinjaTurtle You'll get my vote :D

user19161

@Mahnax Actually I am really not sure what is being asked there. I would close it as NR instead of NC.

user19161

08:46

@NinjaTurtle What game is that?

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy American Football

user19161

@skullpatrol There also seems to be a game called footvolley.

user19161

Hmm, I just got 19k, need 1k more to become "trusted user".

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy Does that mean you not a trusted user now?

user19161

@skullpatrol Yes, technically.

skullpatrol

08:55

@JasperLoy You know what the number one law of the jungle is?

user19161

@skullpatrol Nope.

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy TRUST NO ONE

user19161

@skullpatrol You can trust me, I will be the last person on earth to backstab you.

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy Have you seen the movie "Scare face"?

user19161

@skullpatrol Nope.

Matt Эллен

08:57

You should trust me more, then @skullpatrol, Jasper might be the last person to stab you, but I won't stab you at all.

user19161

Yo @matt. I have been trying to bluff some rep today.

Matt Эллен

good work!

@JasperLoy you could try and get some from this question:

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Q: Use of the word "mentee"

My employer has instituted a formal mentoring program for new employees. I was horrified (but should not have been surprised) to read the company information that referred to the new employees as "mentees" in the mentoring relationship. Apparently the word has been in use since the 1960's (I don'...

word-choice

before it's closed as a dupe

skullpatrol

@MattЭллен Thanks I'll try and keep that in mind :D

user19161

@MattЭллен I think Cameron has already cited OED.

skullpatrol

@JasperLoy Anyway, in that movie they go over what are known as the three laws of the streets: #2 is never get high on your own supply and #3 is never forget where you came from.

user19161

09:06

Do people actually downvote for answering GR questions?

Matt Эллен

Andrew Leach gets on my tits

Grrr

user19161

I feel upset when they downvote a correct answer posted to a simple question. They can always delete the post if they want, but a downvote should only be used for incorrect answers.

user19161

@MattЭллен Pourquoi?

Matt Эллен

first he argues with me over how he thinks that writing down something that means the same is the same as transcription

like that would make sense

now this:

What if I argue that those august works simply record how a word has been used in order that they can be referred to to find out what on earth is meant by a particular sentence? Including any word under those circumstances doesn't make it correct, merely explained. — Andrew Leach 3 hours ago

Because somehow a word that has an accepted meaning isn't correct? WTF SHUT UP

anyway

user19161

@MattЭллен Well, if it is in the OED it is a word. QED.

Matt Эллен

09:11

he rubs me up the wrong way

user19161

Why was I downvoted for the former latter answer?

Matt Эллен

don't know

user19161

I guess some people use downvotes for GR answers.

Matt Эллен

maybe

or Em1's phantom downvoter has moved on

user19161

And some people use downvotes to change the order the answers appear.

user19161

09:13

My personal philosophy is to use downvotes for poor questions or poor answers only.

user19161

Of course, others are free to have their own philosophies.

user19161

@MattЭллен Or? Meaning to me?

Matt Эллен

well maybe

you'll have to wait and see!

skullpatrol

Let's not "amplify mosquitoes to elephants."

user19161

@MattЭллен It's OK. I have plenty of reps for thems to downvotes me!

user19161

09:15

@skullpatrol Haha.

Matt Эллен

let's not shrink earthquakes into bouncy castles

user19161

I am no longer of the belief that a GR question should be answered with a comment.

Matt Эллен

I am still of that belief. We are now at war

user19161

A comment should be a comment. An answer should be an answer. QED.

Matt Эллен

that's how religion works, right?

@JasperLoy GR should not be answered

the OP should be pointed to a GR to get their answer from

user19161

09:17

@MattЭллен Like I said, people are free to close it and delete it even.

skullpatrol

Does "GR" stand for "general request"?

user19161

@skullpatrol General reference.

Matt Эллен

General Reference

jinx

skullpatrol

Thanks guys :D

user19161

So to summarise, an answer should always be posted as an answer, a downvote should only be used to signify poor quality.

Matt Эллен

09:19

I do not believe a link to a GR is an answer

user19161

But this is just me of course.

Matt Эллен

because it is too simple

user19161

Hello @viller!

NinjaTurtle

@JasperLoy Which game?

user19161

@NinjaTurtle I was referring to your Oakland Raider.

NinjaTurtle

09:27

I dunno, I find it out while searching it on Google.

user19161

@MattЭллен @andrew To me, any word that is listed in the dictionary is correct. Plus one to Cameron. – Jasper Loy just now edit

user19161

A word that is listed in the dictionary is already significantly used for it to be so. What the OED cites are just examples from the sample.

user19161

In particular, earliest use is not the only use.

user19161

How can the answer saying mentee is not a word get two upvotes?

user19161

Does it mean we should all throw away our dictionaries?

user19161

09:44

You know, I think I will break the 1000 and continue to downvote!

Matt Эллен

:O

Gigili

Today is "general reference question" day.

I've seen six in 2 minutes.

Matt Эллен

oh! that explains why we have so many of them

user19161

I just downvoted three answers, shh...

Matt Эллен

I should get on and ask some of my own

user19161

09:45

Can someone do me a favour and upvote my former latter answer? I hate it when it shows 0.

user19161

I guess that person knows I hate the 0 and is waiting for me to delete it, haha!

Gigili

Wow, have you seen the world's most tattooed person?

Matt Эллен

I've seen Britain's most tattooed grandma

user19161

@Gigili Where? Have you seen my tattoes?

Gigili

Matt Эллен

09:48

lol, he seems surprised that he's so tattooed

user19161

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Q: Use of the word "mentee"

Possible Duplicate: “Trainer” is to “trainee” as “mentor” is to what? My employer has instituted a formal mentoring program for new employees. I was horrified (but should not have been surprised) to read the company information that referred to the n...

word-choice

user19161

It was 2 and 0 for the answers. Now it is 1 and 1. Go figure what I did.

user19161

@Gigili Looks a little like @matt now with that avatar!

Gigili

10:29

0

Q: Why does 'be' have more than three forms?

I was just wondering, unlike many other normal verbs why does be have more than three forms? These are, am, are, is, was, were, be, been, being.

verbs verb-forms

Because "be" is awesome like that.

David Wallace

That verges on GR.

Gigili

NARQ, I'd say.

David Wallace

It's a RQ.

But it could be OT.

@MattЭллен mine too

Gigili

10:45

It's NARQ.

Why is it go, and not cho?

And why does it have 2.1 forms instead of one?

Vitaly

It's a RQ and the answer posted as a comment by David is sufficiently illuminating:

A pretty good answer can be found at dailywritingtips.com/the-many-forms-of-the-verb-to-be — David Wallace 8 mins ago

It's pretty much a prototypical question about etymology (which is on-topic on EL&U).

A more academic summary of the evolution of the verb can be found in the third volume of The Cambridge History of the English Language, starting at p175: Google Books link

Gigili

11:09

It still doesn't make sense to me.

> Why does 'be' have more than three forms?

An answer could be "because.".

Vitaly

11:28

… because unlike most other verbs it's not really a single verb but rather a messy cluster of different verbal paradigms

the first group, am, art, is is cognate to Latin sum, es, est

the be- group is related to Latin fiō and Sanskrit भू

and finally the was, were group is related to wesan (which historically meant dwell), cf. Sanskrit वसति

Gigili

It has an interesting history or etymology or whatever, but that's not what the OP is asking.

Vitaly

@Gigili I am not sure I understand why you think so.

Gigili

Why does it have three forms? Because it has three forms, how many forms did you expect it to have?

Vitaly

Okay, first, he's asking why it has more than three forms, second, the historical reasons for its having more than three forms are legitimate reasons.

The etymology lays out the historical reasons.

“Why?”
“Because of its etymology here: <…>.”

user19161

This argument is entirely about different interpretations of the question. Now all of you may go eat.

user19161

11:41

-1

Q: English word for development of some city

What is the exact word we can use to denote the development of only some cities in the world. E.g. If we talk about London, New York etc., these cities are very developed compared to other cities in world. Can we use "Concentrated development" for this situation?

vocabulary

user19161

NR

Vitaly

@JasperLoy You are not helping. If the difference in our interpretations of the question is obvious to you, feel free to elaborate on it.

Gigili

It's like asking why apple is red.

5 mins ago, by Vitaly

“Why?”
“Because of its etymology here: <…>.”

David Wallace

Not if the Queen's servants are running round with red paint, applying it to all the white apples.

Vitaly

@Gigili because the anthocyanin pigment coded by the plant's DNA sends back the portion of the electromagnetic spectrum that our eyes perceive as red. And the DNA code for it, in turn, is there because it was advantageous for plants if animals ate those apples and defecated the seeds elsewhere, and red was apparently attractive to animals then.

Gigili

11:49

That way, everything has a reason which is another way of saying nothing has a reason.

Vitaly

I honestly cannot understand what sense you are reading into the why.

Okay, how about this…

I interpret why as “Here is an observable effect. What was its cause?” (Causality.)

How do you interpret it?

user19161

I think among all the SE sites TeX seems to be the most friendly. There are almost no downvotes and almost everything is upvoted in no time.

Gigili

@Vitaly So you can ask that about all verbs, not only "to be".

Vitaly

@Gigili Sure. That's why we have etymology.

Questions about other verbs would be patently GR, though.

1 hour ago, by David Wallace

That verges on GR.

user19161

@Vitaly Actually, I always felt that etymology should be removed from this site, but that's just me.

Matt Эллен

11:55

Grrrr

Vitaly

I am not sure if that particular question is GR, but I assume that it isn't too obvious for someone who is not familiar with the terminology where to go for the answer in that particular case.

user19161

@Gigili Exactly. It is simply the level of non-triviality that we associate to reason to call it reason in the first place.

user19161

@MattЭллен Pourquoi?

Gigili

I still think it's more NARQ than GR.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy GRRRRRR

I'm just messing

go is to goose as do is to deuce?

David Wallace

12:06

What is to hat as coats are to oats?

Vitaly

Today I learned:

> The cushat or cushie-doo (Columba palumbus) is a kind o doo. The cushat can be identifee'd bi its muckle bouk (38–43 cm), an the white on its hause an wing. It is itherwice a dreich gray bird, wi a pinkie breest.

Mitch

@Jasper: what's wring with etymology here?

@David: hoats?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

12:28

@Vitaly what accent is that supposed to be?

Vitaly

@MrShinyandNew安宇 sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cushat

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Vitaly So the language is "Scots"? Interesting.

Robusto

12:57

@Vitaly Scottish?

Ah, yes. I see.

I guess I should read to the end of the transcript before responding. Alas, I am lazy.

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A: Is there a name for this type of insult: "I am friends with many manly men. And Gary."?

TV Tropes call it "My Friends And Zoidberg" trope: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MyFriendsAndZoidberg A standard comedy trope which, at its core, takes the form: "Group A ... and Bob." It is often expanded to mention two or more groups: "Ladies, Gentlemen ....

TVTropes.org is now an official source for ELU.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto it's about time.

But I'm not clicking on that question or answer or any links to tvtropes.

Robusto

@MrShinyandNew安宇 You don't have to. It's already been done for you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

13:14

@Robusto good. Because tvtropes is a dangerous time-sink

Robusto

Tell me about it.

Matt Эллен

13:29

Topically askew:

0

Q: Past perfect tense structure

Are both of the following correct? He was a painter and he had painted many drawings. He had painted many drawings because he was a painter.

grammar past-tense past-perfect

Gigili

Is this structure correct: "It would [something] if you could [something]"?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Gigili it can be correct, depends on the somethings

Matt Эллен

It would run a mile if you could throw the ball that far

Gigili

It'd be great if you could send me the book a bit quicker

Matt Эллен

that is fine

Gigili

13:35

Thank you.

Matt Эллен

hurries the postal service up

Gigili

thanks Matt

Robusto

14:25

@Kosmonaut Welcome back. Even if you are mischaracterizing me, as usual, by mistaking ill humor and relentless, forced humor for evil. And after I said such nice things about you. Ah, well. Congrats on your newish parenthood as well. Funny, but you don't look newish ...

Meysam رها در بند

Hi @Gigili

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto Hey! only one person around here is newish and it's me.

Robusto

@MrShinyandNew安宇 What's in a name?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto a lot.

Robusto

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Your name does not contain "a lot."

Meysam رها در بند

14:29

Numerology

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto you didn't specifically ask about my name.

Robusto

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Well, your name isn't "newish" — it's New. In fact, your name is an ad blurb. It almost cries out for an exclamation mark.

Mr. Shiny and New! Now with two scoops of words!

Now 50% shinier and newer than previous Mr. Shiny and New!

Cerberus

@Robusto He was kidding, you do realize this?

Gigili

14:57

Hi, @Meysam.

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