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1:12 AM
> I DO NOT DEFINE TIME, SPACE, PLACE, AND MOTION, AS BEING WELL KNOWN TO ALL.
-- NEWTON (1642-1726), PRINCIPIA
How is place different from space? Is there such thing as a place without space?
 
@SirCumference It's been good. I had a couple fun (challenging? but doable?) physics seminars last semester, and I'm excited for the spring. I'm taking a directed reading on group theory/representation theory in quantum mechanics that seems pretty awesome, as well as couple good physics and astro seminars.
Life's been busy and fun and challenging and not as hectic as it could have been. How about you?
 
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Q: Does the red object act as a fulcrum (as explained bellow) to make picking up easier?

parvinIn picture one I have shown a robot arm (green) rotating to pick up a box, using a fulcrum (red). The arm after rotating is shown with black rectangle. The vertical arm on the left is attached to the horizontal green arm and goes down to make the green arm rotate. In picture two, I have shown a ...

would you please help me with this? this is about robots but also about physics
 
2:11 AM
Another question,
Imagine we have a fulcrum, one side is us and one side is a 20kg weight.

Which one is easier, to push our side's plate downwards to make the other side move upwards, or to lay under the plate and pull it downwards?
 
2:24 AM
@Blue Found it: Jadavpur University professor's shocking comment on virginity: 'Will you buy cold drink with broken seal?’ | "A girl is born sealed from birth until it is opened... A virgin girl means many things accompanied with values, culture, & sexual hygiene [sic]," Jadavpur University prof. Kanak Sarkar said
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/article/jadavpur-university-professor-kanak-sarkar-virginit-cold-drink-with-broken-seal-kolkata-west-bengal-facebook/346987
Reminds me of this comic: pbfcomics.com/comics/preserves
 
@HDE226868 Dang, that sound awesome. For me it'll be QM II and Calculus on Manifolds, the latter of which is more or less Diff Geo. Could help with learning general relativity, although I'm spending break trying to catch up on the expected analysis background.
Aside from research I haven't the chance to learn much astronomy. We only have a Physics major here, not Astronomy, so there aren't many non-graduate astro classes I can take :/
 
@SirCumference Interesting; I wonder if your quantum mechanics class will be similar to the other one I'm taking this semester.
Also, I took a geometry class last semester that sounds similar to the second class you're talking about. Do you know what the topics will be?
 
@HDE226868 "Maxwell's equations in terms of 4D Lorentz geometry, de Rham theory, Sard's theorem on the density of regular values of smooth functions, the theory of differential forms and integration, and vector bundles."
 
@SirCumference Okay, slightly quite different, then.
 
Mostly we'll just be going through this book
Reviews are a little disheartening
@HDE226868 The course description for QM II is oddly the same as in QM I, so not sure what to expect ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Is your rep. theory class for a math major or (astro)physics major?
 
2:35 AM
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Q: I want to report a user

TheEnthusiastI want to report a user because he has been the reason why I was banned from the site. I want strict actions to be taken against him and he should suffer to the same extent as me . Please make it sure. I feel insecured because this user always blocks and downvotes my answers. Please ensure that h...

 
It counts for math credit, actually. A student (friend of mine) put it together at the end of last semester and the math department approved it. We're using these notes as our main text. As of three weeks ago, we were aiming to get through three chapters a week. As of today, that's hopefully going to be 1.5-2. At the very best-case scenario.
 
@HDE226868 Oh, spring semester already started for ya?
 
@SirCumference No, it starts next week. I'm here early for track practice. Fortunately, so are two of the other four students in the class, including the aforementioned friend.
 
@HDE226868 Nice. Me and a group of friends tried to do something similar, but couldn't find enough people for it to get approved. Math department here is pretty small :/
Gotta ask, what kind of stuff do you guys go over in astro classes? The philosophy at my uni is that you're expected to learn physics first and astro in grad school, so I sorta had to put learning it on hold
 
@SirCumference So, we have two intro courses for majors: Astro 16 (stars and the interstellar medium) and Astro 14 (exoplanets and a wee bit of cosmology). This is the textbook for those. For the major, you have to take one of those two, then two out of three seminars: one on stars, one on observational astronomy, and one on the interstellar medium.
I took Astro 16 in fall of 2017, and I'm taking the stars seminar this semester. The seminars are offered erratically; we have two astro professors, and one's the department chair and the other does interdisciplinary stuff and an astro class for non-majors.
@SirCumference I've also heard that that's the conventional wisdom, to be honest.
The thing about the astrophysics major at my school is that it's really just the physics major + three astro classes, so I get the same amount of pure physics. So I don't have too many qualms about that.
 
2:54 AM
How do I evaluate $T_{[a,b]}$ in mathematica, it should come out as $T_{[a,b]} = \frac{1}{2}(T_{ab} - T_{ba})$?
 
3:05 AM
@enumaris Not one I know.
If the answer you haven't isn't it, wait for John R to show up. He knows a lot of old SF stories.
 
Mathematica is terrible
 
I mean, I like to think that I know a lot of old SF stories, but John's score is three times mine.
 
@HDE226868 I see then. We do have a few (irregularly offered) introductory astro classes as electives, but it's not really what I expected going in. I get the reasoning behind it tho.
Oh speaking of astro, nice idea with the blog. Hoping it'll get more attention, though astro SE seems pretty inactive lately :/
 
@SirCumference Thanks. called2voyage and I are hoping it goes somewhere. We've got a bunch of folks working on some posts; we're just letting that write and edit and polish before going forward.
 
3:50 AM
'Cadabra
a field-theory motivated approach to computer algebra'
 
 
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5:41 AM
Hello

I encountered the following expression of acceleration due to gravity: https://imgur.com/a/VP1nquz

I have some difficulties to understand from where this comes. This is AFAIK quite different from what eg is written on Wikipedia or from what I have seen so far. So I'd like to know how this model is called so I can look it up and try to understand how they came up with those formulas.
Could somebody redirect me to some sources or something which explains and ideally proves this?
 
6:13 AM
@traducerad it's just te usual gravitational force written in a weird way.
 
Egad but the typesetting is atrocious enough to make parsing out waht is meant harder than it needs to be.
 
Indeed :-)
 
The latitude variation (if indeed that is what is meant by $lat$), suggests the author might be trying to fold in a tidal effect, but ... if so they seem to have mistaken the geometry of the Earth-moon or Earth-sum system a but and overlooked the longitudinal effects off the line between the bodies.
All and all, without knowing more I'm reluctant to make any assumption about what is going on there.
 
 
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7:52 AM
hello
 
8:03 AM
@dmckee doing a google search appears to bring up a subgenre of dragon shapeshifting....erotica....that was...surprising...but it makes my search much more difficult lol
 
8:15 AM
@enumaris I had a look but it doesn't ring any bells. But then I'm not good on YA books since the genre didn't exist when I was a young adult.
Can you think of nything specific like names of people of places that might act as a memory jogger?
 
 
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9:55 AM
consider two indistuguishable particles, where $\psi_A(x)$ is the wave function for particle $A$; $\psi_s(x)$ is for particle $B$
$$\Phi(x_1,x_2)=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\bigg(\psi_A(x_1)\psi_B(x_2)\pm\psi_A(x_2)\psi‌​_B(x_1)\bigg)$$
I want to see when they are distinguishable
say, after measurement, they will be localized
then both the probability density of $\psi_B(x_{\boldsymbol{1}})$ and $\psi_A(x_{\boldsymbol{2}}) $ approach to zero; therefore, the probability density $|\Phi(x_1,x_2)|^2$ of two particles $A$ and $B$ becomes:

$$|\Phi(x_1,x_2)|^2 \approx \frac{1}{2}\bigg( |\psi_A(x_1)\psi_B(x_2)|^2 \bigg) $$
I am confused by the "$\frac{1}{2}$"
that seem to me not making any physical sense
it should be "1"
but I am not sure where is wrong with my reasoning
 
10:31 AM
The probability is
\begin{eqnarray}
|\Phi(x_1,x_2)|^2&=&\frac{1}{2}\bigg(\psi_A(x_1)\psi_B(x_2)\pm\psi_A(x_2)\psi‌​_B(x_1)\bigg)^* \bigg(\psi_A(x_1)\psi_B(x_2)\pm\psi_A(x_2)\psi‌​_B(x_1)\bigg) \\
&=&\frac{1}{2}(\psi^*_A(x_1)\psi^*_B(x_2)\pm\psi^*_A(x_2)\psi‌^*​_B(x_1))^*
\end{eqnarray}
Ran out of time to edit
Man that's too many terms to do it in chat
My eyes are not liking it
 
lol
I hate the "editing time limit"
 
I can't even delete it!
Damn the man
 
11:11 AM
@Slereah I can delete it if you want. Which posts specifically?
 
11:27 AM
@JohnRennie eh no matter
 
Dec 13 '17 at 8:49, by Secret
He then made a footnote saying that "physicists tend made the mistake by equating indeterminacy (the measurement/observation produces an indeterministic outcome) with indeterminable (the idea that even if there is a process that is deterministic, it is fundamentally unknowable and inaccessible to all our attempt in interrogating the system (as if the probability distribution does not even exist))"
Got it figured out, there does exists a mathematical object that has the above properties:
Consider some event $E_n$ for $n \in \Bbb{N}$ such that the following is true:
$\text{Pr}(E_n)=1$
$\text{Pr}(E_n|E_m)=1$ for all $m<n$
Then identify all the $E_n$s as the same kind of phenomenon. Now you have a phenomenon that is recurring, but no amount of statistical modelling can fit it, and hence indeterminable and a pdf does not exists
Now that is short and sweet, and does not clog up the chat much. I should stop saying things now lol
 
 
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2:07 PM
i am sickin tiered of not knowing what's wrong with apple and stack , i can't type or spell things here
 
2:58 PM
some websites in my computer appear version of codes rather than usual arrangements. I don't know why.
 
3:23 PM
@kartikc.p Dint ping asking people to answer your questions. Just hope for the best.
@kartikc.p I have been guilty of the same thing I do know the difficulties
 
3:41 PM
what star represents . to the right
 
@kartikc.p lol what?
 
4:10 PM
@Slereah What about the DeSitter one here ipht.fr/en/Phocea/sujets_de_theses/index.php
"The multiverse paradigm provides a framework where none of these fine-tunings requires an explanation, and string theory, with its believed “landscape” of de Sitter vacua, appears to support it. However, solutions in the landscape are not constructed directly in ten dimensional string theory, but are found using effective low-energy descriptions in four space-time dimensions.
In order to satisfy all experimental constraints, the effective theories require a number of intricate ingredients such as anti-branes, T-branes or nongeometric fluxes, whose string theory origin and consistency is unclear. The purpose of this thesis is to examine whether a very large number of these vacua are in fact unstable or inconsistent with the experimental data coming out of the Large Hadron Collider.
This will be done by analyzing one of the key ingredients of the Multiverse construction - the uplifting of the cosmological constant, and taking into account the embeddings of Standard Model physics in String Theory."
Is the multiverse related to the QM many worlds interpretation nonsense or something else
 
"Multiverse" is kind of a vague word that can refer to tons of theories
although really overall notions of a multiverse isn't very common
I mean it's fine to discuss but for the most part it's not actually useful
some people like it for metaphysical reasons but physically speaking it's basically superfluous
 
I think it has a specific meaning in string theory
 
@bolbteppa are you thinking of the string landscape
 
Yeah
 
@bolbteppa that's not really a multiverse unless you combine it with eternal inflation and wave your arms a lot
 
4:20 PM
String landscape is more of the various parameters string theory can have
(YES THE MANIFOLD COUNTS AS A PARAMETER)
(Bloody stringies)
 
I don't know if the landscape/multiverse stuff is related to the MWI of QM, seems to be about vacua and so different, not sure
 
It's basically just string theory on different manifolds
One of which is ours, hopefully
 
@JohnRennie you there
 
@kartikc.p hi
@kartikc.p what question?
 
@JohnRennie wait sir
 
4:30 PM
@kartikc.p try to stop spamming users. For all our sakes. Please.
 
i had john . R there
 
@kartikc.p that happens when you click on the little triangle next to a message then click on the "reply" link:
Those links
 
@JohnRennie the physics department here lost all their files after a hard dive crashed last term. I genuinely think they had everything backed up on one drive. Nothing on the cloud, and by the sounds of it, a really old hard drive. Has the cavendish always been so bad?
 
@Slereah this arxiv.org/abs/1804.01120 was a big deal a while ago related to that topic
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Q: Can String Theory really fail to contain a de Sitter vacua?

Pete1187I was reading a post earlier from Peter Woit's Not Even Wrong blog and came across the following reference to the paper "What if string theory has no de Sitter vacua?" by Ulf H. Danielsson, Thomas Van Riet. The preprint is on the Arxiv here - it isn't clear if it has been published in a refereed ...

 
i honestly don’t understand how the physics department is seen as even remotely good
 
4:35 PM
@JakeRose you underestimate my age. When I was at Cambridge PCs didn't exist :-)
 
What? You’re not a day over 25 don’t lie ;)
im wouldn’t be surprised if we do the same lab classes as you did back in the day
they sure feel like they haven’t changed
 
Neville Mott was still lecturing when I was there!
 
Holy cow
what did he lecture?
do you know anybody that lectures physics here? As in they were your peers?
 
Can't remember. Solid state physics I think.
 
@JohnRennie Unfortunately, I can't recall any specific names...been trying, but all I have in my head are vague images of what I imagined when I read the book D:
 
4:39 PM
@JakeRose Lynn Gladden was one of my peers. Her career has gone rather farther than mine :-)
 
@JohnRennie its about space. why exactly outer space is black . i had found two paradox. one by GYUK which was simple . but the second one was complicated it's about finite universe and finite seed of light plz can you try understand me second one
 
I can't actually positively rule out it wasn't a dragon shapeshifter erotica that I somehow got my hands on when I was little...LOL
I kinda hope it wasn't...
 
dragon shapeshifter erotica - I might be a bit old for this book :-)
@kartikc.p old
 
The strongest memories are that the protagonist rips the antagonist into pieces to neutralize him...but the antagonist still wasn't dead
 
@kartikc.p the only paradox I know about space being black is Olber's Paradox
 
4:47 PM
He don't wanna reveal bruh
let it be
 
5:11 PM
@JohnRennie sadly she’s a chemeng, doubt she’d be lecturing me :( was gonna flex my well connectedness with internet people to some lecturers
@kartikc.p chill man. Chill.
For Part III why is there even s change in height? The field is completely radial?
 
@JakeRose putting a dielectric in between the plates of a capacitor lowers the energy, so there is a force pulling the dielectric into the capacitor. This is what is happening here. The water rises until the attractive force is balanced by the weight of the water.
 
But it’s vertical?
(not disagreeing just trying to understand)
 
Yes, moving the liquid vertically in between the plates of the capacitor lowers the electrostatic energy in the capacitor.
 
Where does a vertical electric field arise from to allow this?
 
There's no vertical electric field.
Let me see if I can find something about this on the main site ...
 
5:23 PM
Thank you @JohnRennie
where does the force come from if not the electric field?
 
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Q: Work done in inserting capacitor

Icandoahandstand99We apply force to insert a dielectric slowly between capacitor . While inserting , we are assuming charge is constant. Now my sir told that Work done by external agent $= Q^2 /2C[(1/k)-1].$ I could not why it is negative as according to me this should be the work done by force to insert it...

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Q: Dielectric slab inserted into a constant voltage capacitor

Poon LeviI was told that a dielectric slab inserted into a capacitor connected to a battery (constant voltage) will be repelled, because the energy stored in the capacitor increases when the dielectric is inserted, due to increased capacitance. What is the physical origin of this force? The attractive for...

 
How in the world could a person have a problem with this ad
The downvote ratio says it all
 
@JohnRennie I think they’re slightly different to mine though. I’m trying to understand the origin of the upwards force
 
The force acts parallel to the plates of the capacitor, so if the plates are horizontal the force is horizontal. In this case the plates are vertical so the force is vertical.
 
I’m not sure I follow. The force is perpendicular to the field lines of the E field?
 
5:33 PM
Yes
 
Mind boggling
I just can’t imagine where it comes from
 
I hate colds. I feel cold from the inside, how is that even possible?
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@JakeRose like so
 
What is physically pushing or pulling it though?
how do we rationalise this in a way other than energy minimisation
 
@JakeRose The field lines are not vertical at the edges of the capacitor
And it's at the edge we get the effect. Once the dielectric slab is wholly in a uniform field there is no force.
 
5:40 PM
Ahhhh
edge effects
When a dielectric goes in with it at constant voltage won’t the energy stored increase? @JohnRennie
 
@JakeRose I honestly can't remember the details. It's a problem you do in your electrostatics course then never touch again.
 
@JakeRose it looks a little vague. There must be more thorough treatments out there in Google land ...
 
@JohnRennie should I be expecting a half instead of a 3 in the dissipated energy?
 
 
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Q: Does the red object act as a fulcrum (as explained bellow) to make picking up easier?

parvinIn picture one I have shown a robot arm (green) rotating to pick up a box, using a fulcrum (red). The arm after rotating is shown with black rectangle. The vertical arm on the left is attached to the horizontal green arm and goes down to make the green arm rotate. In picture two, I have shown a ...

would some one please answer this? this is also about physics that's why I send it here
 
8:35 PM
@JohnRennie Meh, I don't buy it. The problems with QFT books are relatively straightforward:
1. They need to spend more time explaining the mathematics before getting into physics.
2. They should start off in 1D nonrelativistic theory before going to relativity.
 
@parvin it’s not extremely obvious what you’re asking
do you just wanna know how to make it easier for the robot theoretically?
 
8:57 PM
@DanielSank I have a quick query for you. Is there an "easy" way to insert "nice" math fonts (preferably from a LaTeX source) in a github page? Whenever searching I get kicked to a kind of editor that basically produces an image of the "equation" or symbol, and the output can be less than elegant.
 
9:14 PM
@ZeroTheHero mathjax works.
Same package as used in Physics Stack Exchange.
There's another package that works too, that Bernardo could tell you about.
 
Anonymous
9:28 PM
@parvin If you're not getting an answer at Robotics, consider flagging it for migration to Physics (I'm assuming it's on-topic here). It's unlikely that you'll get a proper answer in chat.
 
@DanielSank ok then I'm doing something wrong because when I try to export my draft file the LaTeX characters go unrecognized.
I'll investigate more.
Thanks.
 
9:53 PM
does anyone here speak basketball
i'm doing a data project thing. isn't the net points of a player just the sum of free throws, 2 pointers and 3 pointers?
eh screw it
 
@Blue I actually think it's not, at least not in its current form.
 
Anonymous
@DavidZ I just had a quick glance earlier and it looked like basic mechanics stuff, and so I assumed it could be beaten into shape on migration. Does it lack some detail/context? (I didn't read it carefully)
 
Anonymous
Looking more carefully it seems like a problem-solving question which can be boiled down to a single concept. The OP hasn't done that yet.
 
10:51 PM
every time I come I become more aware of the misconceptions I have
and I don't have time to correct them all
but here I am anyway
what does it mean that a positron moves "backward in time"?
 
nice to see you on this side of the pond
As far as I understand it (and not very well) it’s something that mathematically pops out in some QFT stuff, although not many people think it’s physical
 
11:44 PM
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Q: Is causality a universal law?

Tony HernandezSorry, I'm not very confident on my understanding of anything at a quantum level and superpositions have me wondering....

It's not necessary universal, but physicists often refuse to give this up so easily
The first step to weird thinking is to forgone the notion that everything is causality
In fact, most things are really just temporal correlations, it's just they are reproducible enough that we call them casual
 

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