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00:03

@Dennis could you add ESOPUNK

oh yeah, also what about Parenthesis Hell and ObCode @Dennis

Bubbler

@ASCII-only That makes 600 languages on TIO in 2018, really

ASCII-only

haha, it would

i guess i'll need to make a pikachu CLI sometime too

it's kinda unsatisfying not having every Hello, World! language on TIO :P

Dennis

00:34

@Οurous I'll change it too. I think I'll keep the rtn though, as halt exists with status code 255.

ASCII-only

> exists

Dennis

Looks like my brain has autocorrect too...

@ASCII-only I'll take a look at those. Probably tomorrow.

ASCII-only

@Dennis i.e. Freudian slip :P

Dennis

00:49

@ASCII-only Yeah, but it's arbitrary precision rationals, as far as I can tell, and the language is from 1975.

ASCII-only

@Dennis yeah O_o but having arbitrary precision at all does make more sense when you know it's python's predecessor

Dennis

Mathematica is from 1987?

Timeline of programming languages

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ASCII-only

also note to self: port this to node too

Dennis

I need a Jacquard loom emulator on TIO, whatever that may be.

ASCII-only

@Dennis not really TC though

looks like it's just constant output

kinda like a binary to ASCII converter maybe

> This use of replaceable punched cards to control a sequence of operations is considered an important step in the history of computing hardware.

> The ability to change the pattern of the loom's weave by simply changing cards was an important conceptual precursor to the development of computer programming and data entry.

Dennis

00:55

Maybe we can base an esolang on it?

Not TC is not an issue, but constant output is mostly dull.

Not that TIO doesn't have constant output languages.

ASCII-only

now... to figure out how Jacquard looms actually work :P

Dennis

Technically, /// is both TC and constant output.

ASCII-only

oh :/

nms.ac.uk/jacquardloom "Each row of punched holes corresponded to a row of a textile pattern." oh :/

@Dennis same as (())

so... hmm. i'd imagine if jacquard loom was an esolang, it'd be 1. basically just dots and spaces and 2. consecutive lines would generally have to look similar

:| so many things have web interpreters but not node ones

@Dennis could you pull Turing Machine But Way Worse btw

ASCII-only

01:54

@Dennis could you also pull Charcoal? thanks

Dennis

02:16

@ASCII-only Done and done.

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MilkyWay90

04:11

@Dennis Can you pull Turing Machine But Way Worse again? @ASCII-only fixed the bugs

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ais523

06:23

@Dennis we normally call it output-only, not constant-output; the difference is that in a constant-output language you can typically prove it can halt, whereas in an output-only TC language you can't

thanks for the WASM setup, btw

but yes, the problem with the Jacquard loom is that it's literally just a sequence of print statements that run in a loop forever, you need to add at least one other feature to the language to make it interesting

incidentally, the field of programming is normally taken to have started with the invention of the goto statement (although it later turned out to not be necessary)

ASCII-only

06:45

@MilkyWay90 nah, that's already pulled. i made it easier to debug (probably will rewrite it quite a bit more after i finish hello, world if that's ok with you)

@ais523 it's necessary, most languages just hide it

ais523

@ASCII-only it isn't; see, e.g. But Is It Art?

it's necessary in imperative languages (either directly or in disguise)

ASCII-only

@ais523 >_> oh yeah this is what i meant

ais523

but declarative languages can be written in such a way that by the time you reach the last assertion, the entire program solves itself from that point

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Jeff Zeitlin

13:39

@Dennis - I have a functional interpreter for psPILOT (PILOT written in PowerShell) ready to go; what I have in the way of documentation is not quite ready for prime time. I'm therefore not ready for you to pull it; I'd like to know what you want to see in the way of documentation before you'd consider it ready for TIO.

Dennis

@JeffZeitlin Documentation is not a hard requirement for TIO. I'll add it whenever you consider it ready.

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MilkyWay90

15:54

@ASC

@ASCII-only Oh, okay!

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Οurous

17:55

@Dennis I believe it should technically be .d 0 0 instead of .d 1 0 in the ABC-assembler HW you have on TIO. Since there's nothing on any stack and no call levels to return down from.

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Pavel

20:00

@ais523 I (think) I made an interpreter for The Amnesiac From Minsk (levels 1 and 2), do you have any example programs with IO I could use to test it?

Well, I'm assuming it doesn't work, since it's completely untested, but I have no idea how to write anything in this language.

Jeff Zeitlin

20:39

@Dennis - You can try a pull of psPILOT. The Hello-world is simply T:Hello, world; if you need any info that's not immediately obvious from reading the code of the interpreter or my test scripts, I'll be here until 1600 EST (Z-5), and from 0800ish (same zone) tomorrow.

Dennis

21:24

@JeffZeitlin tio.run/#pilot-pspilot

@Οurous Changed.

Dennis

21:34

@ASCII-only tio.run/#esopunk

TIO now hosts exactly 600 programming languages. https://tio.run

Tweeted by Try_It_Online on December 26, 2018 at 9:34 PM

Dennis

21:55

@ASCII-only tio.run/#parenthesis-hell

Pavel

\o/

Dennis

And that's 601. Before someone asks me to, I already changed the ad.

.oO ( Why is the ObCode interpreter written in Python 2? )

Dennis

22:15

@ASCII-only tio.run/#obcode

Random factoid of the day: languages.json is now 2.35% parentheses.

Pavel

22:52

@Dennis Is that including brainflak brackets ([]{}<>) or not?

ASCII-only

23:24

@Pavel I'd guess not

@Dennis :D

@Dennis as expected after i requested 3 parenthesis-only languages in such a short span of time >_>

Dennis

23:45

@Pavel 3650 copies of (, 3706 copies of ).

Some characters are way more frequent, but they're part of the JSON syntax.

Dennis

23:57

Counting only the code of the Hello World programs, 9.1% are parens.

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