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12:47 AM
@JeffSchaller :D
 
 
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10:42 AM
As i realized I posted this in the wrong chat room earlier, I'll copy it here:

I'm still looking into my boot delay and in the systemd journal found that apparently systemd is trying to run the cryptography setup for some usb device, although none is connected and none is listed in fstab

"Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-00a69115\x2d956d\x2d41b3\x2d830c\x2d9a3878087d41.device.
Dependency failed for Cryptography Setup for cr_usb-General_USB_Flash_Disk_0349315060001623-0:0-part2."
pastebin.com/b0gVxv6r
Line 67 lists the device that is invainly waited for on boot, listed here as inactive / dead. I couldn't identify the actual device by the id as there's nothing here, could this just be a remaining entry of a already removed device? I interpret the two lines I posted earlier as this being some usb disk that was connected at some point
 
 
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11:56 AM
It will be a long time before I understand the HNQ; who knew that ls -1 and printf deserved 50+ votes? What a wild ride, eh, @StephenKitt?
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Q: How to list *.tar.gz, one filename per line?

McLanI am trying to list every .tar.gz file, only using the following command: ls *.tar.gz -l ...It shows me the following list: -rw-rw-r-- 1 osm osm 949 Nov 27 16:17 file1.tar.gz -rw-rw-r-- 1 osm osm 949 Nov 27 16:17 file2.tar.gz However, I just need to list it this way: file1.tar.gz file2....

I think this is day #3 being on the list
I'm wondering if it'd make sense to have a separate kind of voting queue for each site to nominate HNQ
a way to vote Q's in or out
fake internet points are great and all, but does printf or ls showcase outstanding unix features? no
 
12:09 PM
@JeffSchaller Well I'm using Linux now since almost 3 years and i did not know about ls -1 until lately :)
 
@JeffSchaller yeah it’s rather crazy
Neither the Q or A have the usual ingredients for wild success on the HNQ
 
It has, it's an easy question with easy to comprehend answers, so people who come over to look at it from other SE sites will most likely vote it up too. The HNQ as well factors in how quick a question gains upvotes and from that calculates the hotness
 
@Videonauth true, but it doesn’t have a particularly catchy question title IMO
although to be fair the answer does involve an option which many people don’t seem to know about
and the -- which surprises some people
 
Interesting; it appears Tim is now on a mission to keep every question open (by voting in the close and reopen queue).
 
Yes but the SEO kicks in when you search how to list one filename per line you will get this in the top results
 
12:19 PM
@Videonauth ah yes there is that too
we should start writing one Q per ls option, we’ll be busy for years to come
 
true and when you start writing a Q/A about all the tar options you have millenias to come to finsih them all
but to be honest the -- option eludes me comprehension wise
it is apparent in many shell commands
 
12:33 PM
@JeffSchaller Tim the crusader lol
 
12:48 PM
@Videonauth It's quite simple. The -- signals the end of options. rm -- -rf will delete a file called -rf in the current directory. It is commonly used when using a utility with a variable whose value may start with a dash.
 
Ah, ok. Thank you for clarifying.
 
@RuiFRibeiro Bomb defused, valid tar command: tar c
It won't do very much but it's both valid and exits with a zero exit status.
 
@JeffSchaller which is rather ironic given his comments on abuse of power
 
Tim
1:17 PM
I am not claiming me doing this to be objective. Think of it this way: I have noticed a lot of posts are closed unnecessarily. I have also noticed not enough people are involved to do something about it. I would rather leave more open air than worry about making wrong decision.
The current situation needs to be balanced
 
@Tim not in the way you’re going about things though, at least if my suspicion is correct — that you’re clicking “Reopen” or “Leave open” in all cases without assessing the merits of the case under review in detail.
(And yes, I also suspect that other reviewers tend to click “Close” without assessing the merits in detail, but that doesn’t excuse doing the opposite.)
 
Tim
That's why it needs to be balanced.
 
Balanced means everyone voting to close or leave open based on their honest opinion of the value of the question.
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If you feel people are abusing the close vote system, please flag the relevant posts and let us know.
I certainly think we are closing Kali questions too much, for example.
 
@terdon indeed
I am however very happy that the downwards slide of the general tone of the site seems to be reverting, e.g. on
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Q: Sum of cached memory and shared memory exceed total memory

Hansol ShinWhen I run free -h, I get: total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 251G 208G 43G 179G 144M 190G -/+ buffers/cache: 17G 233G Swap: 5.6G 5.6G 1.1M How can shared memory(179G) + cached ...

the welcoming comments are very welcome ;-)
 
Cool!
 
1:36 PM
@Tim the goal of the site isn't to have lots of open questions; the goal is to have answered questions. That's the point of the review queues, to decide if questions are on-topic and answerable
@terdon agreed, with the adjustment: "closing too many as dupes of don't use Kali" -- particularly when there's actual answers on the site
I don't miss poor questions, but I think people feel a license to VTC at the appearance of 4 letters
 
1:52 PM
@JeffSchaller Yes, that. And there's nothing wrong with closing as unclear either.
A more general problem I've seen is people closing questions just for being bad questions. That's what voting is for. Bad but on topic questions should be downvoted, not closed!
 
@terdon could you say a little more? What makes a bad question different from an unclear question?
There's always nuances of Stack Exchange for me to learn!
 
@JeffSchaller questions which show little research have tended to be closed recently (as “requests for learning material”), instead of being downvoted
or in addition to...
 
@StephenKitt Ok; I'm with you for VTC for the right reasons; I was afraid I was missing a class of "bad" questions that weren't worthy of a VTC
 
@Rickyfox I suggest posting a question on the site, if you haven't already.
 
If a question is bad because it lacks the details you need to answer it, then sure vote to close as unclear. If it is bad because it's just a crappy question, then downvote.
 
2:04 PM
@Rickyfox The 00a69115\x2d956d\x2d41b3\x2d830c\x2d9a3878087d41 might be some kind of ID. Have you tried searching /etc for an ASCII substring of that?
If your computer is remembering something that is no longer there, /etc is a likely place for it to be.
In any case, I think posting as a question is reasonable.
 
ok, will do. I didn't think this would warrant a question.
 
@Rickyfox Seems like a reasonable question to me. Computer remembering things that are no longer there! News at 11.
 
 
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3:10 PM
ugh
I got a new keyboard and the | key is in the strangest place I've ever seen
now I have to pay $8 to return it
 
@Jesse_b I also have learnt the hard way many moons ago that ip pays to have a look at the layout first....
 
@FaheemMitha besides the excerpt from the boot log, the systemd devices pastebin link I added the output of lsblk and the content of /etc/fstab - off the top of your head any idea what else might be relevant to include?
 
@RuiFRibeiro Yeah, I didn't even consider someone would do something so despicable with a keyboard
Whoever designed this thing has never used a computer and should never be allowed to work in the industry again
 
@Jesse_b Many moons ago I bought a slighty expensive and nicer keyboard for being US layout, and when I opened the box at home....duh. It was not. (I used US keyboards for at least a decade)
 
Every other keyboard I've used I've been able to get used to but this is absolutely unacceptable
 
3:20 PM
@Jesse_b Where is |, btw?
 
It's practically underneath return
 
@Jesse_b Nasty, lol
 
QWERTY (, ) is a keyboard design for Latin-script alphabets. The name comes from the order of the first six keys on the top left letter row of the keyboard (Q W E R T Y). The QWERTY design is based on a layout created for the Sholes and Glidden typewriter and sold to E. Remington and Sons in 1873. It became popular with the success of the Remington No. 2 of 1878, and remains in widespread use. == History == The QWERTY layout was devised and created in the early 1870s by Christopher Latham Sholes, a newspaper editor and printer who lived in Kenosha, Wisconsin. In October 1867, Sholes filed a patent...
 
3:21 PM
I keep hitting return when trying to pipe things
 
@Jesse_b I have used models with that layout in the past
 
and my pinky doesn't have enough flexibility to properly reach it
 
@Jesse_b I write with both hands....
 
I use both hands as well but it wouldn't make much sense to bring my left hand over to hit it
 
I can never get the hang of US keyboards, I much prefer the ISO Enter key
 
3:22 PM
@Jesse_b Unfortunatelly I have seen stranger keyboards :(
 
@StephenKitt Blaspheme!
 
of course the one true keyboard is this one:
The space-cadet keyboard is a keyboard used on MIT Lisp machines and designed by Tom Knight, which inspired several still-current jargon terms in the field of computer science and influenced the design of Emacs. It was inspired by the Knight keyboard (also developed by Tom Knight), which was developed for the Knight TV system, used with MIT's Incompatible Timesharing System. The Symbolics-labeled version shown here was only used with the LM-2, which was Symbolics's repackaged version of the MIT CADR. Later Symbolics systems used a greatly simplified keyboard, the Symbolics keyboard, that retained...
 
I am using a fijtusi siemens mechanical keyboard PT layout at work
Connected to a Lenovo laptop
 
@RuiFRibeiro I use a Logitech G610 mechanical keyboard with French AZERTY
I have fond memories of these too:
Sun type 5
 
Sun, great keyboards yeah.
@StephenKitt I do not miss the AZERTY and HCESAR keyboards.....
HCESAR (pronounced by saying the name of the letter H and then the word César: in Portuguese, agá-César) is an obsolete typewriter keyboard layout. It was created by decree on July 17, 1937, under Portuguese prime minister António Salazar. It was common that the 0 numeral was omitted (in favour of using the uppercase O letter), and there were also some typewriters without the 1 numeral (with the lowercase L being used to achieve it). Also absent were symbols such as the exclamation mark (achieved by typing an apostrophe and overwriting it with a period using the backspace key), the asterisk (achieved...
 
3:30 PM
@Rickyfox Sounds like a reasonable start. Distribution and version number, of course.
You can always add other stuff later.
 
@StephenKitt wait, seriously? You voluntarily use the French layout when coding?
 
@terdon Yeah, I also took decades to surrender to our local QWERTY variant.....
 
Just wanted to write you.
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/484944/boot-delay-due-to-systemd-device-start-job-timeout
In case there's anything else I should add, either ping me here or write a comment. Hope this is not a very poor question. My search into this has brought up several posts that reported the same symptom but apparently due to a different cause
 
@terdon yes, I learnt to touch-type on French keyboards and it’s been second-nature for me for nearly 30 years now
I can touch-type on UK keyboards too
 
@RuiFRibeiro I don't mind changing, I'm comfortable with Greek, US, UK and Spanish layouts. But French is absolutely awful for coding.
@StephenKitt Ah OK, if you started with that, I can understand it. But the whole "Shift+Number" to get to the most common, basic programming symbols was a deal breaker for me.
I kinda got used to the AZERTY part, but the symbols were too much.
 
3:33 PM
@terdon I also used to change in the past between a couple of layouts. Nowadays just between Mac and PC.
 
The Pt layout seems pretty similar to the "standard" US one, right?
Apart from the Ç, that is.
 
@terdon yeah, similar to the UK/US one, some keys change place, notably the bigger difference is having the ç and º ª
 
Ah, yes I missed the º ª when looking here.
Quite similar to the Spanish one, really. Which makes sense. You They probably copied it from them you.
:P
 
@terdon I really like that part, especially with the fr(oss) layout
so I can type stuff like Æ, «» etc. without looking up symbols
 
@StephenKitt But how about things like | / { } [ ] etc? Those were shift+number combinations if I remember correctly, right?
 
3:37 PM
@terdon No idea which came first...nonetheless, the ñ always felt out of place, we have no use for it writing in pt
 
Yeah, you just use h for the same effect, right?
 
@terdon yup, but my fingers just know them
 
I guess they would, yeah.
Still seems like a pain to code in >:)
 
I do have lots of colleagues in France who get US or UK layouts instead of French layouts, exactly for that reason (digits and braces)
 
Ah yes, that's the other one that really drove me up the wall: shift+num for digits.
But, as you say, humans can get used to anything so if that's what you started with, it makes sense you'd stick with it.
cough weirdo cough
:P
 
3:42 PM
@terdon I get that a lot ;-)
 
@terdon n or nh
 
Ah, I thought the h had the same effect on more than one letter, not just nh. Thanks.
 
4:05 PM
> Uma espécie de bandeira que usamos todos os dias.
Heh, too true. We all have that sort of linguistic chauvinism at times :)
Hang on:
> como acontece com o português, que é regulado por leis e tratados internacionais (um dos quais tem criado a polémica que todos conhecemos).
Do I understand correctly that that is saying Portuguese is regulated by laws and international treaties? Seriously?
Between whom? The various countries whose official language is Portuguese?
 
tein un grande gato en mi pantelones
 
Sounds uncomfortable.
 
:)
Donde esta el bano? Numero dos rapido
 
4:21 PM
Pick a language!
:P
 
:p
 
4:38 PM
My day is complete, I've answered a question with ed.
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I was working on a sed solution but apparently I don't have gnu sed installed on my mac and homebrew is being slow :(
Dang someone already got it
 
4:55 PM
@JeffSchaller Tsk, wasted opportunity there: My day is complete, my monkey fed, I answered a question, I answered with ed!
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@Rickyfox I'm not sure if you're addressing me or not. But one note - posting logs as an image isn't very useful, even if the image is legible. Use plain text instead.
If you think it's reasonable to retain the image, you could just add the text.
 
5:19 PM
@Rickyfox Also, did you try doing a search for the relevant strings in /etc as I suggested?
 
6:19 PM
@JeffSchaller Where is the ed question?!
 
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A: How to find word and change only next second line word

Jeff SchallerUse ed, man! ed -s staff.txt <<< $'/JHON/+2s/.*/4242\nw\nq' This calls ed in scripting mode (-s) on the staff.txt file and sends it the following commands in an ANSI-quoted here-string: find the line containing JHON and go two lines beyond that (+2) on that line, search and replace anything ...

 
:thumbsup:
 
I deleted my awk answer on that number question. When I first read it I thought his list was on a single line so I looped through it with awk but then I realized it was a multi-line list that just wasn't in a codeblock lol
 
@Jesse_b Yeah. The markup was weak in that one.
 
I wonder why so many people think quoting is optional
 
6:30 PM
@Jesse_b Because for every string they've tried it on so far, it is.
 
not in javascript
an unquoted string is an undefined variable
 
But it's easy to break code by just setting IFS to a digit, for example.
 
> (i===i) && console.log("yes")
ReferenceError: i is not defined
 
@Jesse_b I don't do JS. Triple =? Oh well, the types in that language are probably quite weird.
 
@terdon There have been treaties between Brasil and Portugal over the years ... '30 and '60 maybe...a big controversial one two or 3 years ago. Many of us in PT refuse to abide by it.
 
6:40 PM
@Kusalananda in JS, = is like -v in some Unix tools: you add = symbols to show you really mean equality, in the same way as extra vs increase verbosity
PHP has similar behaviour
 
@RuiFRibeiro Huh. That's interesting. I don't know of any other example where a language is regulated through international treaties! Neat!
 
@terdon or not so neat. The last one was done over lobbies interested to import much lower quality brazilian translations at lower prices without changing a comma.
 
@StephenKitt Ah, I know some languages like that where you compare on different level, like value, reference, object or whatever.
Lisp is like that too, I think.
 
@terdon a large population is ignoring it, and the African ex-colonies also.
 
Yeah, fair enough. Not neat at all. Actually, I tend to object to any attempt to try and "regulate" language. All such attempts are pointless, doomed to fail and ultimately useless.
 
6:43 PM
@Kusalananda yes, with various type coercions which get disabled by additional = (in JS)
 
@terdon I prefer the Spanish approach...it is we who know how to write our own tongue, piss off.
LOL
 
nah, that one's silly too. You have the Real Academia trying to impose its own particular interpretation of "correct" and this results in absurdities like Argentinian schoolchildren learning a dialect of the language in school that neither they nor their teachers actually speak.
Apparently they conjugate verbs in school as they do in Spain instead of using the forms they actually use when speaking. And that's just weird.
 
@terdon coming back to our problem, both PT and BR tongues in 400 years diverged significantly in written and spoken form. They speak in a way more akin to Spanish/Italian and we more in a gutural form akin to English/German.
 
Aye
 
@Kusalananda Yeah, the jq functions use javascript code though I believe
 
6:48 PM
First time I heard a friend from Porto speak, I thought she was speaking Russian!
 
@terdon I am from Porto, but I have a mix of Lisbon/Porto accent, left Porto too long ago.
@terdon Porto accent already confuses me a bit when I talk with my sis and parents. My daughter was born in South Africa and lives in the South too.
 
@Jesse_b it’s all C AFAICT
 
@RuiFRibeiro Lisbon's also quite guttural, right?
 
@terdon well, it is Portugal. But we are more soft spoken than in Porto in several ways.
 
I don't know many Pt accents, of course, but the only one I've heard that didn't make me think of Russian was that of a friend who's from Chaves.
And that's almost Galicia.
 
6:51 PM
@StephenKitt Yeah I mean when you use the filtering functions like select (.key===value)
Maybe not
 
In any case, both Porto and Lisbon are beautiful cities with great food. I really like them both.
 
@Jesse_b nah, that’s just ==, but it’s documented as being equivalent to JS’s === (same type, same value)
 
@terdon lol....I had a brazilian gf up there....she could understand them at the border, I cannot, and I understand Castellaño well...grew up hearing it. People at the border speaking a mix of both languages, the children and old, I cannot pick up a thing.
 
Heh, yes. Makes my life easier since I speak Spanish though :_)
I can read Portuguese, but understanding either Br or Pt when spoken is hard for me.
 
@terdon It was the mix....I understand Spanish well...
@terdon Great food, though you will find more choices in Lisbon, and better and cheaper food in Porto.
 
6:53 PM
@RuiFRibeiro Yes, but you actually speak Portuguese, so you'll be trying to parse what you hear in Portuguese, which will presumably confuse your ear. Since I would always try to parse in Spanish anyway, it actually makes it easier for me.
 
@terdon Probably. Though I do not parse English in Portuguese...it is direct most of the time.
 
Sure, but you speak that one as well. I don't speak any Portuguese, really, I can just understand a lot of it because I speak Spanish, French and Catalan. So, when written, I can understand about 80% or so. I could read that article you posted before, for example.
 
@terdon ditto, I can read all the romance languages to varying degrees, even parsing some Romenian when Russian-based words does not appear. That does not mean I understand them in the spoken form.
 
Yeah, that's so weird though. I remember once reading through something in some Iberic language or other and it took me half the text to realize I was reading a language I didn't know!
Latin languages are a bargain: buy two, get the rest for free!
 
@terdon yeah....;) Was exposed to a lot of Spanish as a kid/teens, was taught French and between the three I can pick up a lot of stuff
@terdon I met some Italian folks in Bristol as Erasmus, and they were amazed that I undertood them speaking to a very good degree. I answered back in English, though.
 
7:02 PM
Heh, I answer Italians in Spanish with an o at the end and we can communicate quite well!
 
@derobert The beginning of this answer by you refers to a non-existent Note - unix.stackexchange.com/a/146750/4671
A trivial point, but possibly confusing.
 
@FaheemMitha huh? It refers to “Note: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin” in your question.
 
@terdon better than pt probably.... our tongue is not so natural to them. but they can follow us pretty well to some extent.
 
@StephenKitt My bad. I guess my mind is not functioning again. Anyway, added a couple of words to clarify. Thanks for the correction.
 
my wife is toying with the idea of having a cat...
 
7:13 PM
@RuiFRibeiro That seems like a reasonable idea to me.
 
@Kusalananda I also prefer cats...it is just the responsibility and we living in a small apartment most of the time.
 
It is a responsibility, but not at all as involved as having a dog.
... or a child.
 
@Kusalananda We are getting too old for a child, I already have one actually from another woman. She has been talking now for a few months about a cat.
 
We have two cats and I'm at times totally fed up with them, and at the same time, at other times, I can't imagine living without them. They do bring something to the atmosphere of the home.
We're in a 60m^2 flat.
 
@Kusalananda Probably. We also have an huge couch at the living room, and I tremble of what a cat (or two) will do to it. lol
 
7:19 PM
Throw a rug on top of it.
 
We' re in a 30m^2 flat. I though of moving when the market was low, but our location is SUPERB. We are actually next door to shops, stores, a mall, and the tube and got plenty of parking space for the car... two minutes walk from Lisbon... LOL So we ended up not moving.
Rug...maybe. The couch is HUGE.
 
I did hear of someone living with three cats and a husband in 35m^2, but it sounds a bit crowded.
... or a blanket.
 
@Kusalananda Dog + large enough garden for the dog to run around in is less trouble than cat and no garden. I hate cleaning cat litter :(
 
:-)
 
@Kusalananda more in the morning when preparing to go to work on the same timetable, it feels crowsded..otherwise it is manageable.
 
7:23 PM
Note also that cats can make use of the vertical space if you let them.
 
@Kusalananda yeah, I know.
@Kusalananda My parents and ex had dogs, I am not fond of dogs at home. Prefer cats.
 
Philistine.
A real home needs both.
 
:)
 
My ex had a boxer, playing with that boxer was violent lol
 
7:26 PM
@terdon :-) and the free time to manage it
 
and it had drunken habits...it actually stole bottles of red wine....;)
 
The double quotes around the word free above are invisible.
 
@Kusalananda OK, admittedly, that was usually handled by the adults when last I lived with both.
And in a house with a large enough property that taking the dogs for a walk meant letting them out the door.
In my tiny flat in London, I am quite content to only have a cat.
 
useful use of cat?
 
Heh, indeed.
Although the cat probably thinks he's using me.
And he's not wrong.
But my GF is the real pushover.
Oh hey, @cuonglm made 100k! Congratulations!
 
7:35 PM
@FaheemMitha @FaheemMitha no I did not try that as I do now know how
 
@Rickyfox could you remove that image and instead just copy/paste the actual text please?
 
@Rickyfox Do you mean "do not know how"?
 
I will in a bit, I need to finish something here first
@FaheemMitha yes, that was a typo
good lord , maybe I should call it a night
 
If so, it's possible to figure out. grep -R stringname should work, though I suck at Unix, so that might be wrong.
 
7:43 PM
Also, show us the output of ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid that might help in case something isn't shown by blkid for some reason.
 
@terdon done and done
@FaheemMitha ok let me have a look at that
 
@Rickyfox I see from your SE profile that you do statistics too.
Or machine learning, anyway. Which is basically statistics.
 
basically
 
@Rickyfox thanks
 
@FaheemMitha pls don't ask me why your neural network isn't working correctly. Please. I can't deal with those kind of questions anymore. I...really can't...
 
7:52 PM
@Rickyfox I wasn't planning on asking about my neural network, so be of good cheer.
Though that's an odd request to make, under most circumstances.
Why did you think I was going to ask about my neural network? I assume you don't mean the one inside my skull.
Actually, that one really doesn't work correctly, but I doubt anyone will be able to help with that, at least in this century.
 
Because questions in poorly written english along the lines of "I use ANN with 23857 features for make mony but no work. What problem?" are a common sight on CV
 
@Rickyfox Oh, you poor fellow. I feel for you.
 
On the other hand, here I am asking poorly formatted questions on Unix/Linux SE, so... shrug
 
Lots of people think neural networks are a copout. Throw lots of variables into the mix, and don't try to understand the problem. I suppose it's one way to handle complicated things.
In traditional statistics, you're supposed to limit your degrees of freedom, or what have you. Otherwise you're basically saying you don't understand anything.
In fact, I think Bayesian statistics has builtin penalties for that kind of thing. But it's been so long my memory is fuzzy.
 
Neural networks are good tools for some problems. Whenever people try to solve every problem with a bandsaw, things are lost along the way....
@FaheemMitha so I found an entry for that usb device in /etc/crypttab . Is that why it's included during boot?
 
8:05 PM
Hmm, I wonder how hard it would be to find a native Marathi speaker on the net willing to do a translation. Any Marathi speakers here?
@Rickyfox Entirely possible. Add that information to the question, please.
Maybe someone can explain why it's still there.
@Rickyfox Well, yes. I suppose they are good for some things. Though I'm not familiar enough with the subject to know what they are.
@PrabhjotSingh Do you happen to know anyone who could do a good English translation of some Marathi text?
 
8:31 PM
Feature request: self-destructing comments, or one that can be deleted by the target. For the situations where you've clarified a response and want to let them know, but then there's no further need for the comment string. Something like "Hey I did the thing; you can delete both your comment and this one after you've seen this"
Mission Impossible comments, maybe -- "this comment will self-destruct 60 seconds after you read it"
 
Could probably be used for abusive comments
 
9:18 PM
@JeffSchaller Unlikely to take off, I'd say. Far more "mainstream" feature requests don't see any activity.
Which is not to say it's an unreasonable feature, of course.
Allowing someone other than the poster to delete a comment would certainly be useful. As in when you've pointed out some correction to someone, but once they've made the correction, the comment is no longer relevant or useful.
 
comments that the @-pinged user or post-owner could delete would be useful.
But it seems clear the SE folks don't actually have the manpower to implement all kinds of things that'd be useful.
 
Hi @derobert.
@derobert They could turn to volunteer labor.
 
SE isn't open source, unfortunately
 
But SE don't seem to do free software.
Though many of their users do, I imagine.
 

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