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2:04 AM

I visited my Grandpa lately, and I was greeted by a young guy in skinny jeans eating avocado toast. I asked my Grandpa who he was and he said "This is my hip replacement"

Glazius

@Rubiksmoose D'you mod much? There are a couple pretty great ones out for settlements, depending on how much you also like survival.

Ben

@KorvinStarmast MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS

trogdor

2:34 AM

@Ben Ssspawn more Overlords

nitsua60

2:55 AM

Can someone sanity-check me on the just-closed grapple/shove/disarm question? I feel like it shouldn't be dupe-closed, because the disarm bit isn't addressed in the dupe-target.

But I'm hesitant to mod-reopen a question I'm 2/3 of the way through writing an answer for, because it feels like obvious COI.

Eh, I'm going to do it--I see someone else already had the same reaction.

%$&#(%)^$ reopening lost my draft =(

trogdor

@nitsua60 sheesh

nitsua60

Eh, it's for the best. I was in the morally-dubious position of continuing to polish my draft, then cast a reopen vote, then immediately post an answer while Peter had no chance to get an answer in before me. This inadvertently leveled the field, which makes me feel better.

trogdor

Lol

Abuse your power properly dangit

:P

KorvinStarmast

3:13 AM

@trogdor yeah, what troggy said. Benign abuse of power can be beneficial ... said every monarch ever.

Shalvenay

hey there @KorvinStarmast

KorvinStarmast

@Shalvenay Hullo there amigo, how are things?

I just got off of Discord with my brother and his D&D campaign. We seem to have run off some kobold scouts, which suggests that something bigger is about to visit our caravan ... during next session.

Shalvenay

heheheheh

KorvinStarmast

Beyond that, work and life are the usual thing. And, I have to get to bed for an early work day tomorrow ... sheesh, they keep changing thing. :p

Nite all

trogdor

Night

nitsua60

3:17 AM

@Miniman sanity check: Crawford's just blatantly wrong here, right?

trogdor

3:31 AM

In 3.5 it was definitely your whole action

That being said I am biased about how similar 5 is to 3.5

Miniman

4:11 AM

@nitsua60 I don't have the DMG in front of me, and my memory of that section is spotty at best, sorry.

Er, wait. That section is devoted to new action options, isn't it?

nitsua60

@Miniman Maybe--yeah. THere's a second-level header proclaiming it an "action option" that I missed.

Miniman

@nitsua60 But, yanno. The main reason my memory is so spotty is because I read that section on my initial readthrough of the DMG and immediately dismissed it as poorly thought-out garbage.

Um, relative to 5e, I mean.

trogdor

4:29 AM

Lol

I definitely hate some of the mechanics of 5e a little bit

Some of them literally because they seem out of place with everything else

Though to be fair considering how action economy works in 5e I expect disarm does cost your action

But I've gone into length about that stuff already

Miniman

4:58 AM

Not to worry. ~~Diablo Immortal~~ PF 2e will fix everything and reunite the entire D&D fanbase.

Mike Q

5:15 AM

@Miniman "You guys all have ~~phones~~ math, right?"

trogdor

@Miniman boy miniman, you sure do know a lot of uplifting stuff :P

Miniman

5:34 AM

@trogdor I've been told in the past that I have the wrong level of cynicism. I'll leave it to you to judge whether it's too much or too little.

@MikeQ I saw an incredible reply to that line that I can't quote here.

trogdor

@Miniman lol, that is rather vague

I don't think it's wrong to have a little more or less than most people though

It's just another thing that makes everyone a little different

Derpy

8:24 AM

@KorvinStarmast don't know. I never bought or played D3 after the "always online, real money auction house" info became public. I just followed a little of the post release dramma because fun.

I remember that among the various fights/flame wars the following arguments came out a lot:

a) Tyrael blackVSwhite supportes fights. Arguments were made that he was changed in between D2 and D3. Will have to check if the d2 ending really had him already shown with black hands

b) auction house just a scam to "steal" people money. Accusations of artificially controlled drops to push players to buy stuff. Also there were some rumors that some of the items on the auction house were put there by Blizzard itself to sell generated items while pretending that was just a player-to-player marketplace.

c) accusation of modifying the gameplay to make it even more item driven, again to push items sales

d) the online mode being very bugged at the start. While the rumors of a very easy man-in-the-middle attack that was used to steal accounts were never proved (or confirmed by Blizzard) some other very bad bugs were. For example, the timer on an auction was tied to the LOCAL time on the machine of the one browsing the auction... so it was possible to force a time-out and win an auction by tampering the LOCAL time on the client....

On top of that, the staff also made some epic PR handling failures.

In one emblematic case, one of the head members of the staff actually posted some very heavy insults at the community on the public forums for the game.

@KorvinStarmast ok, watched the ending again. While you might be right, to me the black color of the face / hands in that picture are only an effect of the over-saturated lighting on the armor (and to be fair, I also see some shades of green in there, I fear that picture should just be considered "El Shaddai" effect)

Anyway, as a final notice, that thing about the design of Tyrael never bothered me. If I had to find something I didn't like, I would have gone for the "bald" thing instead.

But mind you, if it was for me he probably would have been a lot shorter, red-bearded and axe wielding :P

kviiri

10:47 AM

Ducktales 2017 was nice

And turns out there's a second season. Woo-o!

Derpy

11:13 AM

@kviiri you liked it? I saw the first 3-4 episodes but I wasn't very intrigued.

While I liked that Scrooge seemed to be far more like the original Carl Barks / Don Rosa depicted, to the point that the first episode could easily be placed just after the end of The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck

.. I didn't really like the way the nephews were handled.

Maybe it gets better?

doppelgreener

11:36 AM

@kviiri Hooray! I'm gonna catch up on that one :D

trogdor

11:51 AM

That's the one with Tennant as Scrooge McDuck right?

Derpy

don't know what the original voice actors where, but that is the one with the "squared" art style if that helps you

doppelgreener

@trogdor that's the one

trogdor

Yeah I just looked it up and indeed it is

BESW

I saw the first... six-ish episodes? before I got distracted. Liked 'em well enough that I'd watch the rest.

But then, I'm not sure I ever saw a full episode of the original series so I'm more like their main target demographic in that regard.

kviiri

@Derpy It got much better as the plotlines were developed. The early season was a bit of a disappointment because there wasn't enough of the classic "adventuring in interesting settings"

@Derpy You mean their more, err, rascally attitude or the fact they're more distinct personalities or?

(I am very much a fan of the latter)

trogdor

12:04 PM

@kviiri oh, that sounds good

BESW

@kviiri I did like that.

And they had, like, more dimensional personalities than I expected.

trogdor

one thing I disliked about the original,... they were just the same kid color coded different

BESW

Not much, but more than I expected.

kviiri

@BESW And that's one of the things that they ramp up even further during Season 1

Derpy

@kviiri no, not the rascally attitude. The "let's give them the "idiot ball" troope thing"

like when.. Huey? tries to cross the trapped bridge in the first or second episode.

BESW

12:08 PM

Oh, that was totally "I want a Fate point, please."

I'll forgive a lot of idiot ball when the idiot holding it is a young kid who's overexcited and acting in a way consistent with their established character notes.

kviiri

I think they do that less overall as the season progresses

I mean, they still do a lot of dangerous stuff of course, but of the last few episodes that I remember vividly, not just for whimsy but they actually have a reason (good or bad one)

Derpy

@BESW the fact is that coming from the "old age" it is more difficult for me to accept their total inexperience to adventure because back in those days the "Holy Junior Woodchucks Guidebook" was continuously invoked to turn them into MacGyver.

BESW

Ah, having a hard time remembering it's a reboot and not a continuation, got it.

Derpy

Need to build a raft? Only have an apple, a battery and a bottle of water? No problem, the Guidebook has a note on it:P

KorvinStarmast

@Derpy The auction house was for me a feature that never mattered, but yeah, it was a naked money grab. From the get go. As to all the rest, I chose not to be as "connected" to the community via the forums and such for my own reasons. Glad I avoided most of that.

Derpy

12:17 PM

That said, even as a reboot I found it rather odd that they had to mention the same Guidebook (meaning they are in the Junior Woodchucks even in the reboot) soon after that bridge scene. But yep, that's just me.

Glazius

@Derpy Well, it is the lost wisdom of the Library of Alexandria. I should hope so!

kviiri

@Derpy It's now Dewey's schtick, and he actually makes pretty good use out of it. The other kids either aren't woodchucks or then they're less committed to that.

nitsua60

Last 12 hours to vote for RPGSE to place in the cheese contest! Vote here to enshrine RPGSE as the internet's finest cheese purveyor!

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kviiri

12:33 PM

No wait, not Dewey. Huey?

I think Louie is the green greedy one, and Dewey is the blue energetic and excitable one.

Derpy

since we are already on topic, I suppose there is no hope that Flintheart will return to the original not-fat state, right ? :P

kviiri

Nay, none

There's also no hope of him returning to being an Afrikaner instead of a Scot :P (although this is touched on)

Derpy

12:52 PM

@kviiri ^ well, I suppose I just wanted s remake of this :P

Oh, and Goldie is a "dubious moral" explorer now?

goodguy5

1:25 PM

ugh. getting to old to be up late drinking, team

kviiri

I have student org annual ball tomorrow. I already dread the depravities that await me

goodguy5

yea, but I'm 30

all of the memes about drinking in your early 20s vs late 20s are true

kviiri

I'm late 20's too

Well, almost 27

That's a perfect cube

goodguy5

ah. I thought younger when you said student org

We have these store brand honey cheerios. They're not great...

But sprinkling a little instant coffee in them make them passable.

kviiri

Yeah, I used to be in the board a couple of years ago, plus done a lot of odd jobs like tutoring and various other posts. The annual ball tends to gather former active members :)

And this being the 30 year celebration it's even more grandiose than usual

goodguy5

1:37 PM

yea. we have something similar at my alma matter (sp?). Birthday Ball.

kviiri

I even went and leased a tailcoat

I have the honorary sash of our org (usually reserved for chairs and vice chairs of the board, but I've been an unusually active fellow otherwise) so I didn't want to spare any expense showing it off :)

goodguy5

"We've spared no expense"

doppelgreener

2:05 PM

@nitsua60 Does the community get a time-share on the cheese board? What's the arrangement?

Or do we just leave the cheese board at the community's collective table?

(granted the cheese hall of fame is definitely largely your baby :P how do you keep all that cheese from melting in there?)

nitsua60

2:33 PM

@doppelgreener This is a logistical nightmare that I've just shied away from actually thinking about. I figure I'll privately contact the 12 top cheese-producers and ask if they'd like the thing for a month and send it myself.

@doppelgreener My heart is an unfeeling block of ice.

Anaphory

@nitsua60 Then, in a few decades, when this happens again, we can win another cheeseboard with the travel fotos of a cheeseboard…

doppelgreener

@Anaphory Genius

Cheeses of the world, on the cheeseboard, for another cheeseboard

nitsua60

@NautArch somehow I missed that "roll-altering" bit in OP. I'll get there....

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