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3:39 AM
@Abcd 4C-H,3Cl,1Pt-C
But I am not sure as I am yet to learn these things
 
Anonymous
4:10 AM
@Jasmine This looks like Allen Module to me.
 
Anonymous
Coordination compounds. Under back bonding.
 
5:31 AM
@Jasmine But I don't understand how that bond between alkene and metal is not sigma
@Jasmine Isn't your phase test on Saturday too?
@Jasmine This is the most AWFUL part of fiitjee. Not completing the syllabus and conducting phase tests.
 
6:04 AM
What would be the IUPAC name?
 
@Abcd
Are you giving JEE too ?
 
@EshaManideep yup everyone's giving Jasmine AK Ice
 
6:22 AM
Do you people give any mock JEE exam online regularly?
 
7:16 AM
How do you do this?
 
Anonymous
7:30 AM
@user64829 (B)? $\alpha$ hydrogen to ketone is acidic. Also, look for conjugation near it. And, $O$ is more electronegative than $S$
 
Anonymous
I really think you should get MS Chouhan along with its solutions. With solutions, you won't get confused. I started directly with MSC. It is not at all difficult. Atleast, GOC isn't difficult.
 
This is from Himanshu pandey
And I have solutions app but they haven't givensolution for specific problems
My MSC will be arriving day after tomorrow
Is it easier than the stuff I asked above
 
Anonymous
@user64829 Whatever you are asking is easy, you'll realize that as you learn. For now, it may seem difficult, but after learning more organic, it will be surely easy.
 
Hmm
1 sec
 
Anonymous
There are levels according to difficulty in MSC.
 
7:37 AM
In first one, which Hydrogen will be lost? From sp3 carbon or sp2 carbon?
 
Anonymous
7 mins ago, by Ice Inkberry
@user64829 (B)? $\alpha$ hydrogen to ketone is acidic. Also, look for conjugation near it. And, $O$ is more electronegative than $S$
 
α hydrogen is Hydrogen attached to the carbon attached to ketone group right?
Aren't there 2 of them
One towards left other towards right of tthe ketone group
Damn, I'm confused
 
Anonymous
8:28 AM
@user64829 The sp3 one. You want resonance. Why would you remove the sp2 one?
 
8:38 AM
@Abcd our portion is very incomplete but what can we do...
@Abcd what is the answer? The back bonds have π bond character
@IceInkberry yes.. these days i use allen package
 
@Jasmine What is the hybridisation and geometry of $\ce{[Cu(NH3)4]^{2+}}$
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Q: Bonding in Zeise's salt

AbcdI am not sure I completely understand the bonding in coordination compounds formed by donation of pi electron cloud by the ligands to the central atom. For example, consider Ziese's salt: I came across a question which asked the total number of sigma bonds in the salt. I expected the bond b...

@Jasmine same lots of stuff is left .... :(
 
@Abcd hybridization of Cu
 
@Jasmine yup
 
@IceInkberry I thought so, but then I thought carbon with more S character is more electronegative and hence has most acidic Hydrogen :/
 
@Jasmine ???
 
8:45 AM
@Abcd is it dsp2
 
@Jasmine HOW??
 
@Abcd is it dsp2 correct?
 
@Jasmine YES
1 min ago, by Abcd
@Jasmine HOW??
 
Cu+2 you can draw
 
@Jasmine I know it has $3d^9$
Then what??
I feel it should be sp3
Because no d orbital is vacant!
 
8:48 AM
@Abcd no
Cu is exception
Cu+2
 
@Jasmine ??????????/
@Jasmine ????????? What exception???
@Jasmine NO
 
I did not mean that
Its 3d9
 
:47228237 Do you know what Cu is? It is 4s^2 3d^10
@Jasmine Yes, then???
 
@Abcd give me some time i will upload a pic as i cant explain this way
 
@Jasmine How much time you need?I am very worried.
 
8:56 AM
@Abcd
 
@Jasmine I have never seen electron being transferred from d to 4p
 
@Abcd but pairing is important..
You want in s?
Then how will Nh3 donate lone pair of electrons
 
@Jasmine ??????
@Jasmine why cant it be sp3???
 
@Abcd i dont understand how you are saying sp3
 
@Jasmine pairing happens among the d orbitals
 
9:01 AM
@Abcd how can 9 electrons be paired
 
@Jasmine dude 1 electron can stay unpaired. It happens many times.
 
@Abcd in presence of a strong field ligand!!
 
@Jasmine !!!???
@Jasmine after moving your electron to s you are not getting a pair
 
@Abcd i am not moving it to s
 
@Jasmine so???
 
@Jasmine what gibberish has the answerer written? "Because NH3 is a VIP..."- rubbish.
 
@Abcd even i dont know what VIP
@AvnishKabaj do you think the hybridisation of Cu in [Cu(Nh4)]+2 should be sp^3 ?
 
@AvnishKabaj $\ce{[Cu(NH3)_4]^2+}$, what is the hybridisation?
@Jasmine mistyped.
 
@AvnishKabaj please enlighten us phase test is close
 
9:47 AM
How do I do this question? The answers dont' seem to make sense- for instance in a) I feel e- density order should be II > I since methyl group is e- donating. I'm really sorry the picture is inverted, in my computer it is the right way around but it gets inverted when I send it.
 
10:12 AM
@Jasmine @Abcd
Dunno guys
Sp3 according to me
 
Anonymous
10:22 AM
Someone please tell me if they have any source for Pathfinder solutions T_T
 
Anonymous
I am breaking my head over it.
 
Anonymous
@Abcd VIP = Strong field ligand.
 
Anonymous
@Hema I have forgotten GOC but I think that it is due to the little crowding due to methyl group that the lone pair of electrons isn't able to easily 'mix' with the conjugated system.
 
11:06 AM
@IceInkberry the hecks tgar
 
@IceInkberry ohhhh ok
 
Anonymous
@AvnishKabaj Googles tgar
 
Anonymous
Gets nothing
 
Anonymous
What does it mean?
 
11:29 AM
@IceInkberry typo for "that"
 
Anonymous
11:53 AM
Oh, okay :p
 
Anonymous
What is expected rank vs. marks for 'The FIITJEE AITS'
 
Anonymous
Like, for top 50, 100, 150, 200.
 
Anonymous
Juuuusst askinggg
 
Anonymous
@AvnishKabaj that heck is one of the hecks. You'll know it's a heck when you try solving it. But, it's beautiful too. It's name of a book for Physics.
 
Anonymous
Did you guys ever hear of moncapped octahedral or square biprism? Why do they put it in AITS?
 
12:13 PM
@IceInkberry that's just English yo
 
Anonymous
Heigh-ho, broth'r, passeth that 'zza ov'r hither. lest I waste away.
 
12:37 PM
Don't do drugs kids
 
Anonymous
1:22 PM
Don't dou drughs forth who ye sayin
 
Anonymous
Hoo hail hooman
 
@AvnishKabaj
@Hema 's question doesn't tally with what was written here quora.com/Why-does-NR3+-have-a-greater-I-effect-than-the-NH3+
@Hema This one
 
 
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3:33 PM
@IceInkberry ????
@AvnishKabaj @Jasmine ^^??
@IceInkberry why cant he speak directly. I hate these self proclaimed smart, trying to sound cool quorans.
@IceInkberry Giving pre AITS mock tomorrow? @Jasmine @AvnishKabaj On Mypat??
@IceInkberry Did you get any nice link for the rank vs marks thingy?
 
4:22 PM
@Abcd no
 
4:34 PM
@AvnishKabaj what's the answer to EAN question
 
@Abcd + $\infty$
@Abcd dunno
@Abcd a?
 
@AvnishKabaj wrong
 
Anonymous
5:32 PM
@Abcd Not privileged nough to have such tests.
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Hahah, there are many such there.
 
@IceInkberry what do you mean!?
 
Anonymous
@Abcd I am distance learning student. We don't have all the facilities/tests that classroom students have.
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Nah, there's not much about AITS on the internet other than its difficulty.
 
@IceInkberry ya, even I got fed up of reading "AITS doesn't decide your JEE rank", "Dont get demotivated", "Its very hard" etc on the internet everywhere!
 
Anonymous
5:58 PM
@Abcd Why sidwick's theory? There are only two questions in my whole module regarding this theory. I don't even know which ligand that pentene type ring is.
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Yeah, but last year, in PT1 this year's AIR3 got 298/402 (he was first in that test). Who are we then? xD
 
@IceInkberry mains rankss and marksss'????
@IceInkberry I dont understand what you mean by "why sidwick's theory."
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Mains 315/360 5th rank
 
Anonymous
@Abcd There is no question from that anywhere.
 
Anonymous
CFT rules.
 
Anonymous
6:01 PM
And VBT at times.
 
@IceInkberry i was solving a book it had around 10 questions on Sidwick's theory. Quite nice.
@IceInkberry no girl you have a misconception.
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Naww, there isn't a single question in JEE from that. Not even in old times. Not in mains, not in advanced.
 
@IceInkberry oho its such an easy theory. why you worrying about it
 
Anonymous
When you give AITS, they prepare you for alienated conditions. If you look carefully, JEE works on trends too.
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Not worrying.
 
Anonymous
6:02 PM
Just that I couldn't solve this question.
 
Anonymous
What is that ring? Mondentate?
 
@IceInkberry BTW cyclopetnadienyl is a commmmmon ligand
 
Anonymous
I don't even know its name.
 
@IceInkberry No it donates 6 electrons
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Ohhh, I didn't encounter it anywhere!
 
6:04 PM
@IceInkberry maybe coz its not done in your coaching
 
Anonymous
@Abcd I know only two tridentate: Dien and Terpy
 
Anonymous
@Abcd I read JD Lee.
 
Anonymous
Maybe I missed.
 
@IceInkberry I know JD lee doesnt have it IIRC
or its in the last pages of JD lee
 
Anonymous
Searches for FIITJEE modules
 
6:05 PM
@IceInkberry not given there too IIRC
 
Anonymous
Not given.
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Then how am I supposed to know lol
 
@IceInkberry what rank does a score of 150 yield?
@IceInkberry teacher
 
Anonymous
@Abcd I never gave AITS before :P
 
Anonymous
@Abcd What if he misses? I don't attend any lectures!
 
Anonymous
6:07 PM
Nevermind xD
 
@IceInkberry if you want my notes Ill send but I doubt youll understand it
@IceInkberry Sir said that they have pulled down the level of AITS from last year ...
@IceInkberry if your allen modules are good it will be given there....
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Not given. But, they are good.
 
Anonymous
I learnt everything from them and was able to solve almost all the questions which I encountered.
 
Anonymous
@Abcd It's okay. Thankyou.
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Ohh.
 
Anonymous
6:10 PM
I solved that paper you sent me..
 
Anonymous
Not really 'solved'
 
@IceInkberry how was it?
 
Anonymous
Casually solved to assess the difficulty.
 
Anonymous
I think the difficulty was similar to our Allen tests. But, our difficult tests have been more difficult than that. There are easy ones too.
 
Anonymous
It was good.
 
Anonymous
6:11 PM
Very few questions were surprising.
 
@IceInkberry similar to regular allen tests?
 
Anonymous
@Abcd Yes.
 
@IceInkberry oh that means you are going to rock it.
 
Anonymous
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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