Why was my flag on this disputed?

@WELZ That's probably something to ask on Graphic Design Meta, right?

@BESW meh, chat is faster and less official.

@WELZ That looks pretty much like an answer. Unless it isn’t one of those answers which add absolutely nothing to an existing answer, I see no reason for flagging it. It certainly isn’t a valid comment, as your comment suggests.

@joojaa I don't think they don't want to, I just think that they find technical matters difficult and hence shy away from them

Lots of designers see themselves as creative and see the occupation as a creative one. The appearance of numbers and math in that (heh) equation is something they really don't like

At least, that's my experience with lots of students I taught basic Graphic Design. A lot of them just want to 'express themselves creatively' and glaze over or grow bored when I start talking about colour models or coördinates

[amused] I have a Fine Arts degree with just a specialty in graphic design. Ratios, anatomy, color wheels and light interactions, pigment properties...

Part of breaking through into grabbing control of creative expression always involves gaining a moderately scientific understanding of the materials you work with.

I couldn't agree more

It just seems that people tend to forget that graphic design is at the intersection of art and science and equal parts of both

Graphic design work tends to need more scientific understanding than many other artistic fields, just because the work gets displayed in so many different ways. Or do people LIKE having their "I [heart] THING" bumper stickers turn into "I [blank] THING" stickers after a few months?

(Red dyes are the most expensive and toxic to make colorfast.)

It's been my experience that graphic designers, at least locally, are more interested in the technical end, and less interested in the communication/user-interface end.

funny how that varies with crowd and location

A lot of my jobs come because I have a reputation for focusing on considering the context of the target demographic and how to draw a connection between them and the client, rather than focusing on how to demonstrate my own skills as a designer.

I dont disagree however quite many designers dont see it that way.

Also bear in mind that im not just talking of current tech.

@WELZ No need to delete your attempt there

You can vote to undelete it 😂

:P

The OP spammed up my inbox with comments

I saw. I flagged some for removal

Morning!

Morning

@Vincent I can vouch for that, there is resistance and you can see it when we give courses what inolved coding or just the need to be a bit more structured/analytical like in page layouts

I think most of the good designers grow out of it after a few years

I find that the best designers are those who accept the technicalities for what they are and don't resist them

and g'day :)

@Vincent Yup! :)

It makes sense they do as students though. I remember I signed up for GD because I liked drawing. I barely do any of this anymore!

@WELZ Because it was an answer, really short but still an answer that can potentially work

Good morning @John

howdy howdy howdy

hey it's John's new beard!

huh

it's in tact, no Monday mishaps lately

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@Zoe we are all waiting for you to post your first question/answer on GD.SE

I wonder if she could do her own first-posts review …

I don't think so.

I'm pretty sure that you can't review your own posts (like in the LQ queue)

well, why don't you make a very LQ post just to find out @WELZ :P

@Vincent I've seen high rep users post in LQ queue, because of length (or somebody flagged it)

this is one way to attract more downvotes.. -_-

#ironic

-1 for dumb vote request post on meta

@WELZ For the “higher” queues, yes. The question is whether this block was implemented generally or queue-wise. Then it might have fallen through the cracks for the first-posts queue, since it is rarely ever relevant for it.

@Wrzlprmft True, though only one user can review it, so when she posts, we need nobody (which is anybody over 500 rep) to go the queue and then she has to wait ~5 minutes (it can take that long) to check.

@Wrzlprmft SE blocks that.

@WELZ I'm still waiting to find a question that hasn't been asked/finding a question I actually can answer :D

@Zoe Have you ever tested that specific case or know anybody who did? It’s not an easy thing to test after all.

@Wrzlprmft It was a bug a while ago that got fixed.

Wasn't around to see it though

That's the closest thing to "You can't review your own first post" I can find on meta

@Zoe It’s actually the relevant case here. I hadn’t thought of private betas, because everywhere else, having access to the review queue when your own post is still inside is quite exceptional.