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Possible Duplicate: Question about interrogations in past tense So, I was watching Pulp Fiction's classical Marcelus Wallace scene when I was struck by this question. Samuel L. Jackson asks the poor guy about Marcelus Wallace: Does he look like a bitch? Wouldn't the right senten...

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user19161

I am thinking if this question is a troll.

Matt Эллен

I'm thinking that the gravatar cache is really slow for me

user19161

4:15 PM

@MattЭллен Did you just change yours?

Matt Эллен

in theory, yes.

well, I changed it a while ago now

user19161

I am curious what it is.

Robusto

Mahlzeit.

@MattЭллен What gave it away?

user19161

I suspect a batman or spiderman.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto my gravatar not being updated here

Robusto

4:16 PM

Laters.

Matt Эллен

CU

user19161

@MattЭллен Try clicking on the confirm button again.

Matt Эллен

I guess it's SE's cache that I have to worry about

here's a sneak peak

KitFox

Eeeek!

The robot finally got you, eh?

Matt Эллен

he did. I am now awaiting recycling

user19161

4:22 PM

@MattЭллен It usually takes longer for SE to change from one avatar to no avatar than one to another.

user19161

@MattЭллен That reminds me of the green goblin who is spiderman's enemy.

user19161

@KitFox I suspect your next one will be yet another fox.

Matt Эллен

It's an Orc. It's definitely not from the Marvel universe! :D

KitFox

Why are my controls misbehaving?

Matt Эллен

they weren't raised properly. no discipline in the home. I blame the parents

KitFox

4:25 PM

It's not my fault! I did my best!

Their list box left when they were babies! I had to be a list box and a dropdown. It's not easy being a combo box, you know!

Matt Эллен

lol

KitFox

Except I suppose combo boxes are actually dropdowns plus textboxes.

Gigili

Can a moderator find a search for a deleted question?

KitFox

Yes.

Gigili

Are you sure?

KitFox

4:27 PM

Pretty sure.

Gigili

smooch?

Thank you.

KitFox

deleted:1 gives me all the questions that have deleted answers.

...or maybe not.

Gigili

Umm ...

KitFox

Are you looking for a particular EL&U question?

Gigili

I want to find out who can search for the deleted questions, moderators? high rep users? whatnots?

KitFox

4:33 PM

Well, it doesn't reject my search terms, but I don't seem to be able to find anything this way. But that might be because I am not looking properly.

Mods must be able to, since Reg does it.

aye

@aedia! smooch

@KitFox Hiya!

If I knew a deleted question, I could try.

@aediaλ I've missed you!

user19161

@anon Why are you here too?

aedia λ

4:37 PM

@KitFox Awwh thanks.

anon

@ClarkKent: lol, I came over to check how Gigili specifically worded her question, and possibly if there was an explanation as to how a high-rep user could search deleted content. I forgot I was still in here though.

Gigili

@anon My question? And I don't lie.

anon

I didn't mean to imply dishonesty on your part.

user19161

@Gigili I lie on the bed.

Gigili

@ClarkKent Good for you.

KitFox

4:40 PM

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A: Can I find a deleted question if I know the identity of the poster?

Only moderators can see deleted posts in a user profile or search for them using the site search. Normal users can only use the "recently deleted" list in the 10k tools or get a link to a deleted question in any other way.

user19161

@matt I still don't see your new avatar. This is taking too long.

anon

A recently deleted list. That looks like fun, lemme check it out.

aedia λ

@KitFox Been busy... somehow I volunteered to help build a parade float as well as garden around our village hall (gosh, I'm tired from raking soil that turned out to be, I swear, 99% rocks). How's things for you?

Gigili

@KitFox Thanks a lot.

KitFox

@aediaλ Hahaha. Trying to imagine you on a parade float.

The weekend was hard, but otherwise things are good. Oh...let me find the quote to summarize this morning's meeting.

aedia λ

4:42 PM

I'm kind of hoping I won't be needed to ride on the thing.

I like taking pictures way more than being in the parade.

KitFox

1 hour ago, by KitFox

So thank you, jQuery people. The project lead looked at my re-styled pages and said "This is the best, most exciting thing you have done in the entire length of this project."

1 hour ago, by KitFox

I wanted to cut off his penis, but I didn't.

user19161

I neither like taking pics nor being in parades.

KitFox

@aediaλ You're not the May Queen?

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent yes it is

KitFox

Ah ha! So there is something about my edit databinding that is screwing up my validation.

@MattЭллен Have you tried logging out and back in?

Gigili

4:45 PM

@ClarkKent Why the latter?

Matt Эллен

@KitFox yeah. I've even cleared my entire Firefox cache, closed Firefox, and come back

KitFox

Did you try rebooting? That didn't work for me.

Was it last week? When it took like, five hours for it to update.

Matt Эллен

rebooting didn't work?

KitFox

Nope.

But I thought I'd suggest it anyway.

To promote the appearance of being helpful.

Matt Эллен

I might give it a go.

KitFox

4:48 PM

Oh, now I can see it!

OK, not really.

aedia λ

@KitFox Admirable restraint indeed.

KitFox

Thank you. I thought so too.

aedia λ

At least you have confirmation that visual prettification projects are the only thing people understand, and you may be able to use that to buy yourself time to actually make other stuff work.

KitFox

Could be. Except the Very Important Visitor is arriving next week.

aedia λ

Uh oh!

KitFox

4:57 PM

Well, I'm sure I'll have this all validated by then. cough

Nobody noticed the mistakes earlier anyway.

Matt Эллен

any better?

doesn't look it from my end

KitFox

Oh yes! Now I see it!

OK, not really.

Matt Эллен

really?

KitFox

Sorry.

Matt Эллен

bah

:Þ

KitFox

4:59 PM

You'll just have to be patient.

aedia λ

Nope, the robot is still here too.

Matt Эллен

stupid patience

making me wait when I don't wanna

KitFox

giggles

Gigili

Suppose you're running for moderator elections, you're arguing something with other people ... Do you find this remark offensive:

> And because the bugs are coming out (scattering?) in light of the elections.

KitFox

What is going on?

This all sounds really weird. What did I miss this weekend?

Gigili

5:11 PM

Umm, do you?

I need to know it's just me or women or everyone.

KitFox

I think it depends on the context.

Gigili

I guess it's just me. I really need to place my bed against the wall.

KitFox

At least one wall.

Where do you see that comment?

Gigili

Uhum.

In the other room, Mathematics.

And I was the only candidate there when it was posted.

KitFox

Can you post the actual link?

Gigili

5:17 PM

Sure, hang on.

in Mathematics, 22 mins ago, by The Chaz

And because the bugs are coming out (scattering?) in light of the elections.

KitFox

OK, I found it.

Thanks.

I don't think they were particularly referring to you.

Gigili

I'm sure they were.

KitFox

in Mathematics, 24 mins ago, by Antonio Vargas

Is there always so much drama on this site? I'm a bit of a newcomer here.

Gigili

Or, um, am I being paranoid?

KitFox

Then "Only because we're bored."

Then "And because the bugs are coming out (scattering?) in light of the elections."

Sounds like he means that lots of lurkers are now popping up and arguing because of the upcoming election.

Doesn't sound like they meant you.

Gigili

5:21 PM

I'm the only candidate there right now. Isn't it obvious that they meant me and no one else?

KitFox

You are running for mod?

Gigili

Yes.

KitFox

Still. I think that makes it less likely that they were referring to you.

Gigili

I thought you were going to support me.

bangs her head against the wall

KitFox

Sorry, honey. You want me to help you be angry?

Gigili

5:24 PM

If they make me angry, I'll use my feminine charms to win the competition.

KitFox

Your feminine charms work on me every time.

Gigili

That's because you're awesome.

KitFox

I rather think it is the other way around.

Gigili

You're awesome because that's?

KitFox

:-D

No, that's because you're awesome.

Gigili

5:29 PM

If I weren't a candidate, I'd murder all of them.

All with one bullet.

KitFox

If anyone could do it, it would be you.

aedia λ

Hey! Is someone being awesome without me? Just a little more coffee and I'll be awesome again I swear!

Also, got to stop looking longingly out the window at the sunshine and get back to rewriting all these things no one will ever read.

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A: Why do we use the object instead of the subject pronoun in constructions like "stupid me"?

stupid y'all. Non-f..sense,y'all stupid

Oh dearie me.

What is this I don't even.

KitFox

Hey, @aedia, pop over to Writers chat for some fun fluff writing?

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coughs

Matt Эллен

5:46 PM

what is fluff writing?

I came over hoping to find out

KitFox

You know. Making stuff up about how great something is.

Even when you've no clue.

Matt Эллен

ok!

I will eat a sammich. Then I will have an idea

user19161

@Gigili You need to line them up first.

Robusto

@MattЭллен It's called ad copy. Or public relations.

KitFox

You know, @Robusto, you understand me very well. That's just one of the many things I love about you.

Robusto

5:51 PM

blushes

user19161

This the first time I see Rob blushing.

user19161

I did not know he could be so emotional.

Gigili

@ClarkKent Done, then?

Mahnax

@ClarkKent Oh, you are Jasper.

user19161

@Gigili Then fire the bullet.

user19161

5:55 PM

@Mahnax QED.

Mahnax

@ClarkKent ∎

Gigili

@ClarkKent The fact that he thought about an answer for about an hour proves he is.

user19161

@KitFox Drama? They ain't seen nothin' yet.

KitFox

@ClarkKent Why do you say that?

user19161

@KitFox Oh, I was just thinking that this room is infinitely more dramatic than that room.

KitFox

6:01 PM

Eh. Mathematicians.

Gigili

@ClarkKent Huh? Don't say that.

user19161

@Gigili I am not insulting anyone. I am just talking about drama.

Gigili

@ClarkKent I know.

Did you see the discussion I had over there?

user19161

For example, how many rooms on SE has boob pics regularly?

KitFox

None.

user19161

6:04 PM

@Gigili TLDR.

Robusto

@ClarkKent Those glasses don't fool me, Jasper. I know it's you.

Gigili

@ClarkKent Thank you for your attention.

user19161

@Gigili Thank you for your sarcasm.

Mahnax

So many stars… Whew. I feel dizzy.

user19161

@Mahnax Well, have a Kit Kat. In fact, I just had one.

KitFox

6:05 PM

Excuse me?

Gigili

@KitFox Yes.

user19161

I took it out from the fridge.

user19161

But @gigili the discussions in that room are becoming more heated recently. It is not just because of the elections.

Gigili

@ClarkKent Yes, I agree.

Umm, there'll be 11 candidates. What a mess.

user19161

@Gigili Wow, so many last minute candidates.

user19161

6:12 PM

I may change my votes last minute too.

user19161

Voting is secret. Voting is compulsory.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto gotcha! thanks.

user19161

@matt Still no avatar change.

Matt Эллен

no grumble

user19161

@MattЭллен This is a bug. You must file one, priority=critical.

Matt Эллен

6:22 PM

lol

WAI U NO SHOW MAI AVATAR?!

KitFox

Oh! Wait!

Now I see it!

Matt Эллен

:O

KitFox

OK, still not really.

Matt Эллен

you have magic eyes

KitFox

:-(

Matt Эллен

6:29 PM

apparently Kit can flirt in Writers chat ;)

KitFox

Shut UP!

Matt Эллен

lol

user19161

No flirting in that chat!

aedia λ

giggles

user19161

@aediaλ Don't choke on your coffee!

KitFox

6:30 PM

i canna help it!

aedia λ

@ClarkKent I would if I could! It isn't household afternoon coffee time yet and I'm suffering... hallucinates another cup of coffee

KitFox

lots of swearing

aedia λ

Uh oh. Iz codez notty agin?

KitFox

I can't think.

I'm all distracted thinking about some other girl now.

aedia λ

Haha aww.

KitFox

6:33 PM

embarrassed

user19161

Wow, "embarrassed" is spelt with two r's and two s's, just like "accommodate".

KitFox

OK, now I feel better.

Matt Эллен

I think you've been spelling accommodate wrong

user19161

Also, occurrence.

Matt Эллен

well, it has two Rs, but no Ss

user19161

6:36 PM

Also, millennium.

user19161

@Gigili It says 10 now.

Gigili

Are we to see all words with double 's' and double 'r' int he world?

KitFox

Damn it.

Matt Эллен

wassup @Kit?

KitFox

I take it IE doesn't play well with visibility:hidden;?

Matt Эллен

6:38 PM

oh, erm, I don't know

KitFox

What should I use? display:none;?

Cerberus

in invisible sack

Gigili

@ClarkKent One is in the process.

user19161

@Gigili Who?

Gigili

@ClarkKent Bill Dubublablah.

user19161

6:39 PM

@Gigili Oh Dubuque!

user19161

@Cerberus Why?

Cerberus

can't talk, is invisible

Matt Эллен

@KitFox visibility:hidden is working in IE8

user19161

@Cerberus If the sack is invisible, then you are visible. QED.

KitFox

WTF?

Matt Эллен

6:39 PM

@Cerberus why does being invisible mean you can't talk? facing wrong direction

user19161

So to be invisible, you need a visible sack.

Gigili

Should we close Cerb as WTF?

Matt Эллен

lol yes

user19161

@Gigili No, close with visible sack.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

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Q: Can a word be deleted from the dictionary?

Has a word ever been removed from the dictionary? ("THE" dictionary doesn't refer to any particular version--OED, MW, etc--I'm simply using it in the general sense) I can imagine that it's not quite possible to do so once a word has been put in print in a published work. It would seem strange to...

word-usage

Cerberus

6:41 PM

@ClarkKent no, it is a bag of holding

Gigili

@ClarkKent He is indeed the last candidate in the world I'd vote for.

Ono wait, that'd be my enemy.

user19161

@Gigili Why? You don't like him?

Cerberus

@MattЭллен because you don't know I'm there, so you can't talk to me, and I'm not going to initiate a conversation

Matt Эллен

oh

Cerberus

@Gigili yes, please close the sack

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

6:42 PM

Protip. If you want to write "the dictionary? ('THE' dictionary doesn't refer to any particular version--OED, MW, etc--I'm simply using it in the general sense)", English offers a convenient shorthand for that: "a dictionary".

aedia λ

@KitFox visibility just hides things (the space for it will still be there, content will be hidden) display:none will make the space not render at all...depends which you want

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 TIL

Gigili

@ClarkKent He talks like he's the king of the world.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I think I'll actually comment to that extent.

user19161

@Gigili Maybe he is Alexander Grothendieck in disguise.

Gigili

6:44 PM

@ClarkKent That makes it even worse.

Cerberus

@aediaλ I guess the latter sounds cooler

Matt Эллен

@aediaλ you can also use visibility:collapse to collapse things

user19161

That's the nutcase who burned 10,000 pages of his papers and went into seclusion a decade ago. Nobody knows where he is now @gigili.

aedia λ

@MattЭллен But not in IE (maybe IE9, but not older IE... IE only supported visible/hidden)

Matt Эллен

I see

Gigili

6:46 PM

@ClarkKent He is in the MSE chat right at the moment.

Robusto

Screw Facebook and their stupid API.

user19161

@Gigili Geezis.

user19161

@Robusto That's why they have F*ckbook now.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

How obscene.

Robusto

@ClarkKent The only thing missing is U.

Gigili

6:47 PM

He missed u.

user19161

Hello @jed. Why are you here today?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

There they had the chance of a lifetime to go with Fecebook, and they went with Fuckbook instead. Morons, what should I say.

Robusto

Also note that it's not just the glasses. Use of simple present instead of present perfect is another tip-off.

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Some people have a face fetish. Others like to get right down to business.

KitFox

Is there an upper limit to the number of classes I can pile onto an element?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Nine.

user19161

6:50 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Facebook

Gigili

Not seven?

Cerberus

9000

user19161

Unless you meant Fecesbook in AmE.

Cerberus

should be enough...

KitFox

sticks tongue in @Cerb's leftmost ear

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

6:51 PM

@ClarkKent Jasper, are you not getting jokes on purpose? Please cut it out. You are hurting me physically.

The whole joke was to spell it Fecebook. Geezis.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I really did not get that one.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

But you did get Fuckbook, huh.

QED, man. QED

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Well, that is a real site.

KitFox

tokes

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@ClarkKent and what did I say about that real site?

user19161

6:52 PM

Wait, don't tell me there is a site called Fecebook?

Cerberus

@KitFox ahhh! I'm invisible, you can't find my ear

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

headpalmfacedesk

Cerberus

*fecesdesk

aedia λ

laughing so hard it hurts

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@Cerberus wait, you mean there's a site called that?

user19161

6:53 PM

looks up fecebook.com

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Looks up Jasper's address to bludgeon him with a giant E.

Cerberus

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 I don't mean anything. I'm not a sign

user19161

fecebook.com redirects to an obscure address.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Is it yours?

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 bodisparking.com/socialnetworkaddons.com

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

6:55 PM

No thank you, I've seen enough tub girl, two cups for today.

KitFox

@Cerberus I'm in the sack with you, silly.

user19161

Amazing, almost anything redirects to something.

user19161

I just see a blank page there.

Cerberus

@KitFox how romantic!

Gigili

@Cerberus How romantically tragic, since you're invisible.

user19161

6:57 PM

@Cerberus No flirting in this chat.

Jed Oliver

@ClarkKent Oh. I got noticed [blushes]

A bunch of EL&U guys crashed Writers. I thought I'd return the favor.

KitFox

OK! I admit it! I was flirting!

Cerberus

@ClarkKent Well, you what happens when the lights go out...

KitFox

Now you can go back to the Hotel.

user19161

@JedOliver Whoa, so many people blushing today!

Cerberus

6:59 PM

The Hotel?

ponders

Which hotel?

user19161

Hotel? Geezis.

aedia λ

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