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1:12 AM
@bertieb I know, and no pun intended by my OTOH; hindsight is 20/20, but it's too late to edit then. Best wishes, Gn.
 
1:51 AM
Dear Mr. Robot...the Earth is roundish, more ball-ish, I'd say...but you'd have to take a plane and/or boat somewhere along the line to realize that firsthand (or interface arm, whatever)...and all those ramps--very problematic, in the long run...unless you know someone with an X-Wing, of course.
 
 
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +2 more: flvto.club/monster-sinners-heist-mp3-song-download/ by janctril on english.SE
 
 
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6:00 AM
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Q: "Glance" is to sight as _ is to hearing?

gandalf3I'm looking for a word which describes a brief auditory examination. Analogous to “glance” in the sense of the following example: At first glance, the object appeared round. At first ____, the theme seemed to be in a minor key.

 
 
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7:59 AM
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Q: Word or short phrase meaning "the act of bring about fatal consequences"

Zachary LimIs there a word or short noun phrase that means "the act of bring about fatal consequences"? Also, can it be generalized for "the act of bring about <adjective> consequences"?

 
8:33 AM
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Q: Modal"will can" wrong or right.

MD Rakibul Islam rkb"I will can" does it make any sense?? I saw a post where someone wrote "i will can" is it right or wrong?? please answer me.

 
8:54 AM
Hi
could we say : "Debate topics that were discussed in the class in this semester"
 
 
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10:10 AM
@Educ We could, depending on the context.
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What would you normally call chalk-like deposits on the inside of your kettle? Build-up?
Sediment would too technical for kitchen cant, I guess.
 
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Q: What is a single word for feeling like you could have done more?

V. CserI need to find a word that describes the feeling like you could have done more or something could have been better if you put in more work but did the best you could at the time.

 
@Færd Limescale
 
10:26 AM
@bertieb Ah thanks
 
Any time :)
 
@Færd I would like to make it as a title of my section in PDF and after that write all the names of debate topics that we did in our class for Oral communication
 
 
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12:26 PM
@bertieb or just 'scale'
Limescale is the hard, off-white, chalky deposit found in kettles, hot-water boilers and the inside of inadequately maintained hot-water central heating systems. It is also often found as a similar deposit on the inner surface of old pipe and other surfaces where "hard water" has evaporated. In addition to being unsightly and hard to clean, limescale seriously impairs the operation or damages various components. The type found deposited on the heating elements of water heaters has a main component of calcium carbonate. Hard water contains calcium (and often magnesium) bicarbonate or similar ions...
'scale' (as a noun) works. Your 'build-up' is also good.
 
@Mitch Is it correct to say : Debate topics that were discussed in the class in this semester
 
Sid
12:56 PM
@Educ why would it be wrong?
 
1:25 PM
I don't know I just want to write things correctly in my PDF
@CowperKettle Where is word of the day?
 
1:45 PM
@Educ Is this the title of a section?
It should be "Debate topics that were discussed in class this semester"
If in a sentence: "We really enjoyed the debate topics that were discussed in class this semester"
 
@Mitch Right. Thanks.
 
@Mitch Right. Thanks ( :) copy past )
 
Two dogs in a bar

Dog 1: "I heard a great joke today"

Dog 2: "Let's hear it then"

Dog1: "Knock kno..."

Dog2: BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
3
 
2:03 PM
@Mitch Yup, also works!
 
I've never eaten peanut butter.
 
@Mitch I got it:)
 
What did you get about it?
 
@Færd You want to see if I got it or not ? hahaha
 
No, I want to see if I got it or not.
 
2:10 PM
wait let me type that in good english
 
2:23 PM
Acually, I found diffuclties to explain it which means I didn't get it well
but any way I 'll try
 
Not much there to get, I guess: you knock, and the dog barks. It's also a blend of knock-knock jokes and bar jokes.
 
I think the joke begans when the dog2 fooled by knocking and was starting barking, it didn't reconize that's acually was joke, in this case the first joke that was heared by Dog 1 was barking by himself when someone knocked and ...
 
I'd have a good laugh as dog1: "That was my joke!".
But as a third party, meh.
 
Um. Isn't it just that when someone knocks on the door, your average dog will start barking like crazy?
 
That's what I gathered :D
 
3:31 PM
@Færd All this dog barking commentary and no one noticed this?
 
@Mitch I'm back, What is your explanation for the joke ?
 
"It's funny because the squirrel gets dead"
 
what is the name of that movie ?
 
@Educ It's funny because Dog2 starts barking at the knocking at the door, instead of following the usual conventions of a knock knock joke.
 
Ah see which is who is there ?
 
3:37 PM
Hermeneutically, it is transmogrifying the conventions of joke-exposition yet fulfilling the exegetical conditions of a classic misdirection.
@Educ Exactamundo
(notice how I'm using another language successfully to get my point across)
@Educ Up. It's a very good movie.
 
@Mitch yes i see that you used another language but I get it. On the other hand, the movie Up seems good I 'll watch it this night after Iftar
 
thank you for bringing this up
 
OK, so I'll explain Dug's joke. It has multiple levels. first level is inside the text of Dug's joke: The squirrel forgets where the acorns are and dies of hunger. Normally that is sad, but note that the squirrel is the one who says that, in the text.
Second level is Dug. He thinks it is funny because squirrels are his prey and so he is likely to think of his prey as stupid or subordinate, and the most elementary humor is based on the pain or embarrassment of others, like slipping and falling or farting.
Third level is the humans in the movie. They hear Dug's joke and barely remark, because they are human and have more refined senses of humor, and probably think Dug is dumb.
I'm not done yet
Fourth level is us watching the movie. We see the people (OK that part is not that funny, we are more the watchers than the old man and the boy scout), we see the dog, and we hear the story about the squirrel. The whole situation is ludicrous because we know that dogs can't talk that well.
Fifth level is me here talking and explaining it and my last comment about 'that well' which implies that the movie is unrealistic in thinking that dogs have articulable thoughts at all, and I play into it, supporting its strange non-reality by saying 'can't talk that well' implying that they can talk a little bit. This is understatement, but also ludicrous.
Sixth level is me continuing this charade of explanation as though it is meaningful, when all you had to do was think, wow that's funny a talking dog, they probably think squirrels are dumb and wish them dead.
Eighth level is sort of the top level of the whole thing, the talking dogs, the longwinded explanation, the general context of the humor of the movie, the missing seventh level of humor explanation, that poor dead squirrel who is still alive to tell you why its dead.
Also a missing apostrophe somewhere in there.
 
3:57 PM
@Mitch I think you meant apostrophe's.
 
4:08 PM
@Mitch Could you tell us joke each week and try to explain it to us like you did with dog's one ?
 
Do you get most 'knock knock' jokes? Those are usually the most basic of linguistic jokes, depends on mishearing a word or using two common meanings. You have enough facility with English already to make your own puns. Often the trouble with understanding puns, as a foreign language learner, is to quickly 'hear' the other meaning. For this foreign language learner, this usually results in a felling of deep recognition of some some... what is the fancy word... ineffability? no...
Epiphany! Hah!
Yes, it is an epiphany that the FL has realizing that one word has more than one meaning, or that a slightly different pronunciation has a very distant meaning that puts it in a very different funny context.
Like for example I just had an epiphany about 'epiphany'
Wait, that's not a pun but more ... self reflective? realization? something like that.
For a native speaker, puns tend to sound childish and/or nerdy (if too obscure or erudite).
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
@Mitch Navel-gazing?
;)
 
(that was funny because it was a cultural reference to a Seinfeld episode where someone would say something questionable, and the comment about it was 'not that there was anything wrong with that').
Trust me, it was funny
But you probably had to have seen it already to appreciate it.
@terdon abstract. but yes
 
Here's your word of the day, omphaloskepsis!
Omphaloskepsis or navel-gazing is contemplation of one's navel as an aid to meditation. The word derives from the Ancient Greek words ὀμφᾰλός (omphalós, lit. 'navel') and σκέψῐς (sképsis, lit. 'viewing, examination, speculation'). Actual use of the practice as an aid to contemplation of basic principles of the cosmos and human nature is found in the practice of yoga of Hinduism and sometimes in the Eastern Orthodox Church. In yoga, the navel is the site of the manipura (also called nabhi) chakra, which yogis consider "a powerful chakra of the body". The monks of Mount Athos, Greece, were described...
 
@Educ I could have made a very groan worthy pun on that by saying something like 'I'm not looking at any oranges'
because...
wait for it...
I could have said something about 'navel-gazing'
 
4:22 PM
@terdon you have explained things very well
 
because 'navel' is one's belly button, but it also refers to a kind of orange without seeds called a navel orange.
 
Don't forget you're mathematician
 
Although, to be honest, those three are not so much gazing at their navels as wondering what the point of those little skirts is if you can still see your penis.
 
@terdon That took an interesting turn
 
@Mitch Yes, OK, but seriously. That's some weird fashion they've got going there.
 
4:24 PM
I need to point out that I forgot how to spell 'navel orange' and thought it was a more maritime fruit...(eg 'naval orange')
hahahh ah aha hah hah aha
That was a pun
a terrible terrible pun.
 
Punitive measures may be called for.
Or Punitive Measurers may be called in.
 
@Educ I forgot
@terdon Oh. I wasn't looking so carefully at those pictures. Strange
@Educ Anyway, I've avoided answering your explicit question about explaining a joke, by explaining some jokes in general.
Not funny either way
Explaining jokes on main is off-topic, but here in chat anything goes.
I just come here for fun. If you have a joke you want explained, maybe I'll do it if I feel like it. Or maybe not, if I don't feel like it. (I'm just being honest; I don't want to give you false expectations).
I should point out, none of these jokes are mine.
 
@Mitch Yes Thank you so much :)
@Mitch :p
 
I bowdlerized it because... 'mental' is so British English, and I've had it up to my gills with all the scones and tea towels and gingers and brilliant meaning excellent
oops
 
what does bowdlerized means ?
 
4:41 PM
@Educ If I start typing 'bowdl...' into the URL of Google Chrome, it already gives you an idea of the definition. But if not, then you can type 'bowdlerize definition' and Google chrome will say something like 'reword to avoid using inappropriate language'
 
5:16 PM
yes bowdlerize
ˈbaʊdlərʌɪz/Submit
verb
remove material that is considered improper or offensive from (a text or account), especially with the result that the text becomes weaker or less effective.
"a bowdlerized version of the story"
synonyms: expurgate, censor, blue-pencil, cut, edit, redact; make cuts to, delete parts of, make deletions in; purge, purify, sanitize, make presentable, make acceptable, make palatable, water down, emasculate; informalclean up
"he crossed out the expletives in Sheridan and bowdlerized ‘Macbeth’"
looks delicious
hot peper
 
5:31 PM
@Mitch Indeed not. That's a misnomer on the part of the BBC. They're stickers, a super peachy Telegram convention, which is being parodied by its state-funded successors like that.
@Mitch Yeah. I didn't seek sympathy tho. I bet you haven't tasted tarhina, which is the same thing basically, only made from sesame.
Mixed with honey or sweet pastes ... I can't have enough of that.
 
@Mitch Like the dog joke.
 
5:56 PM
@BladorthinTheGrey Please edit such things to at least say 'NSFW'
 
@terdon Damn, I hadn't contemplated my navel for so long it looked different than the last time I'd seen it. Thanks for the reminder.
Such a selfless person I am.
 
@Færd Oh yeah. I saw 'stickers' and it just didn't register what that meant. It makes sense now.
My inner-teenager says it is totally lame though.
 
@Mitch It's a trove of alternative art.
 
@Færd I have tasted 'tahini' which is the name they sell it by here in the US.
 
A huge part is lame tho.
 
5:59 PM
@Mitch Sorry, fair point, it's not especially rude though
 
lame-o man. totally for nerds
@BladorthinTheGrey profanity and all that. the children (and or someone's boss or coworker) might be listening
Also, it's a SE thing (they've explicitly stated somewhere that it's not good for SE)
 
The officials here harass the ordinary users not to post nudity or profanity or whatever, while they liberally revel in those sewers themselves.
(that was a bit too harsh)
 
oh...they've also implemented flags for such things in chat.
 
Fair enough
 
@Færd wow...officials are wallowing (or reveling) in the sewers of nudity? Ew...
Links?
ba dum tss!
!//rimshot
 
6:01 PM
The navel-gazing thing would be against the norms you just laid out.
 
@Færd I sadly accept full responsibility for my bad puns.
 
Oh not your pun. The wiki page.
@Mitch There are three types of rimshots! Did you know?
 
@Færd Oh. haha. yes. forget what i said about puns then
 
@Mitch So how did you like it? How does it compare to peanut butter?
 
@Færd ??? Wha? No, I didn't know that
 
6:04 PM
@Mitch You mean the Ba Dum Tisshhhh triplet effect, right?
 
@Færd !st Peanut butter. I can fully understand why someone who is an adult would not care for peanut butter. It just doesn't make sense gastronomically.
Tahini is sort of like peanut butter (in many ways), but I had never considered that.
I don't think you would make a tahini and jelly sandwich. Would you?
 
Okay then. I have missed nothing so far.
@Mitch Oh of course you could.
But it's normally mixed with honey and such.
 
@MetaEd It was new to me.
 
Or with grape syrup.
 
@Færd You wouldn't mix PB with other stuff, but spread it on one slice, spread jelly on the other, then out together to make the sandwich. anything different is obviously wrong and would taste wrong.
 
6:07 PM
I feel out of my depth as an Englishman trying to comprehend a peanut butter and jam sandwich
 
@BladorthinTheGrey Like anything, if you grow up with it, then it doesn't make sense that it doesn't make sense to others. But as an adult... it just doesn't make sense.
 
@Mitch It's too much trouble doing that for every sandwich.
You'd be better off making a large tub of PB+J.
 
@Færd can you buy tahini and jam mixed together, in a bottle?
@Færd There are some brands here in the US that do that. I think it is an abomination.
 
Does jam contain fruit lumps?
 
At least fish and chips is a sensible combination
 
6:09 PM
It's marmalade that doesn't, tright?
 
@Færd Yeah often
Nah marmalade can
Marmalade is for citrus fruits though, especially oranges
 
@Færd hmm... jam and jelly... one of them has llumps the other not, but I can't remember which
preserves are definitely more lumpy
 
@Mitch Um, I'm not that tahini savvy .. maybe.
It's more likely to be mixed with the lumpless one.
@BladorthinTheGrey Right. And for lady marmalade.
 
@Færd I've only ever really had tahini as an ingredient in other things, never straight
 
Pure tahini is too hardcore.
It has to be mixed with something sweet.
 
6:11 PM
What do you guys call the BrE jelly then? The wobbly stuff you put in a mould
 
@BladorthinTheGrey does it include the rind?
 
@BladorthinTheGrey Jell-O
In the US.
 
@BladorthinTheGrey wobbly stuff from fruit is called Jell-O
@Færd jinx
 
@Mitch There's no hard and fast rule but in a marmalade yeah I'd expect there to be bits of preserved orange with the rind
 
but if it is from meat juice after cooking, that is just aspic I think.
 
6:13 PM
Is Jell-o not a specific brand?
 
@BladorthinTheGrey Like kleenex or xerox, the word is somewhat brandless now.
jello
 
That's what makes jelly more appealing to me.
Did you hear the one about this guy who opened the fridge door and saw the jelly shivering and wobbling?
 
Go on...
 
He said "Don't worry now, I came to eat a banana."
 
ha ha. nice
 
6:15 PM
Classic :D
What's a sea monster's favourite food?
 
:D
 
Fish and ships
 
nice
 
That was in the Beano when I was young
Another British thing actually
The Beano is the longest running British children's comic, published by DC Thomson. The comic first appeared on 30 July 1938, and was published weekly. In September 2009, The Beano's 3,500th issue was published. One of the best selling comics in British popular culture, along with The Dandy, the weekly circulation of The Beano in April 1950 was 1,974,072. The Beano is currently edited by John Anderson. Each issue is published on a Wednesday, with the issue date being that of the following Saturday. Its characters include Dennis the Menace, Minnie the Minx, The Bash Street Kids, The Numskulls, Roger...
 
Hehe.
 
6:18 PM
Did you have Rupert Bear?
 
Me? I guess not.
 
Another thing your damned revolution deprived you of ;)
 
Well, I'm not the Yankee here!
But perhaps so!
 
Kids storybooks written almost exclusively in rhyming couplets
 
We got our own revolutionary deprivations.
Nice. I liked those as a kid.
 
6:21 PM
Which revolting colony are you from then? :D
 
Iran.
 
Oh, less of a colony then
 
That actually comes close.
 
Which country colonised Iran?
 
But not exactly a colony, yes.
 
6:22 PM
Other than perhaps Alexandrian Macedonia
 
@Mitch Me too. And I have a few hours to work on the delivery before I go home and make my gf's eyes roll.
 
@BladorthinTheGrey The British held strong sway over Iran for a long time.
But we weren't exactly colonized by any of the powers. This was a contested land.
 
I thought that was more towards Afghanistan but fair enough
Classic take the opium and sell it on to other countries
 
Heh. Whereabouts do you live?
 
Sid
6:25 PM
Wasn't it the British who were hell-bent on addressing Iran as Persia?
 
East Anglia region
 
@Sid Um I'm not sure.
@BladorthinTheGrey Cool.
 
Persia is not an inclusive term now. I would avoid that in favor of Iran.
 
Most of Europe prefered to use Persia before WW2
Basically because that's what the ancients called it
 
6:27 PM
In European literature, yes.
But we've been calling it Iran for millennia now.
 
Why, if you don't mind me asking, isn't Persia favoured?
 
Whatever. I'd just like to use the term that makes more people identify with my as their countryman.
Well, it's a bit tricky to define what Persia exactly is.
I would say it has old historical connotations.
 
Because it hasnt been a country for years?
 
Plus a vestige of ethnicity.
Jingoists use it to get off on the lost glory of their land.
 
Ah I see
 
6:31 PM
Those who don't want to include Arab/Kurdish/Turk/etc as their countrymen, use it.
 
Like people in Russia looking longingly at Ukriane
 
Along with many others who use it to sound more prestigious.
I just prefer Iran.
 
Yeah according to Wikipedia the etymology is literally just 'Imperial Iran'
 
@BladorthinTheGrey Is there a common name for Russia + Ukraine?
 
USSR?
Russian Empire?
 
6:33 PM
Ah haha
 
The Fatherland?
 
Sid
If the world suddenly decided to decrease the number of countries, then, those countries will merge.
 
Sid
Russia+Ukraine+Other slavic countries=Soviet Union back to its full glory.
 
@Sid That sounds like chaos
Would you unite all of the Hispanic world?
 
Sid
6:35 PM
America+Canada+Greenland= The Holy Britannian American Empire
@BladorthinTheGrey I guess. Okay, that will definitely be chaos
 
That's the problem with historical border issues, you never know when to draw the line
e.g. Gibraltat
*Gibraltar
 
Sid
Of course, all this will is just speculation and you hope that never happens..
 
Idk, I can certainly see arguments for return of land
I mean Gaza strip has a different historical context to Gibraltar but it's the same principle
 
Except there are willfully-neglected UN resolutions about that.
 
Sid
No one cares about the UN, these days.
 
6:41 PM
Old ones. And suggestions for new ones have been rejected out of hand by those who have the power.
They just want expansion, it seems.
 
What did the UK want?
We took land to control a shipping channel
Pure mercantilist expansionim
 
Well, then they went out of their way with generosity and bestowed the land to this and that.
They promised it to two separate peoples or states, if I recall correctly.
 
Yeah, although I'm not sure the concept of 'bestowing' land is a good one when we just took it in the first place
 
@MetaEd anticipation!
@BladorthinTheGrey 'Persia' is totally a Western word, inherited from the Greeks. Why would the Iranians use a foreign term for themselves?
@BladorthinTheGrey Poor Venezuela would be left out.
Just because
 
7:02 PM
Uktus Hills, Yekaterinburg, Russia
 
@Færd In the US, 'Persian' is kind of euphemism for 'Iranian'. If you say 'Iranian' people are like 'wow, evil empire and stuff, you don't look totally evil' But if you say 'Persian' they say 'Oh, how nice, like the cats and the carpet'
 
There is still some snow there )))
May the 21st, for God's sake
Good night all (0:
 
 
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9:52 PM
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Q: What is a word for something being simultaneously known and permissible?

DumpcatsGiven the following sentence: "The issue is known and we are okay with it." As in, it is still recognized as an issue, but perhaps it's noncritical. Is there a way to combine both those two cases into a sentence that follows "The issue is [new word]."?

 
@Færd I use the term Persian some of the time, because I actually like the historical connotations. So modern day Iranians don't identify themselves as Persians?
 
 
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11:37 PM
Many of the people I know in the U.S. who refer to themselves as Persian do so to distinguish their ethnic identity from their national one.
Sometimes this is out of concern for the negative image the post-1979 government has among Americans, but I think in many cases it is more because they themselves either opposed the 1979 Revolution or supported the overthrow of the shah but opposed the government that followed him.
 
11:49 PM
Is it correct to say "X is signal which is detected from under the first condition". I feel like that "which" should be changed to "that".
 

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