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KannE
KannE
1:06 AM
@Suren I don't fully understand the sentence. However, use "that" with restrictive clauses and "which" with nonrestrictive clauses. Search online for "that vs. which" for more information.
 
Suren
Suren
1:33 AM
Thanks, KannE. I will.
 
 
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SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
4:14 AM
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Educ
Educ
8:43 AM
Exploring a new culture
It's fascinating the kids learn how they respect others and how they work as group, etc.
 
Feeds
Feeds
9:39 AM
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Q: Antonymm for "derived"/"derivative"

einpoklumSuppose an idea or an artistic work A is derived from another idea or work B. We would call A the "derivative" or the "derived". What would we call B? I looked for antonyms of derived on thesaurus.com and couldn't find any.

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Feeds
Feeds
11:22 AM
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Q: A word for something that is currently relevant

BenJacobI feel like there is a word on the tip of my tongue for something that is particularly relevant in the current climate but I can't quite get it. Can anyone help me out?

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Færd
Færd
11:39 AM
@Mitch I'm aware of that, and that gives me even more reason to identify as an Iranian and defend that name.
@FaheemMitha As I said, it's hard to define what it actually means, but it definitely smacks also of ethnic pride. MAR here for example doesn't identify as due to his Trukish ethnicity, but he is unquestionably an Iranian. Why would I want to exclude him when I refer to my nationality?
All this is about what to call these people in English, BTW. In Farsi, it's always Irani (= Iranian).
(Correction: "MAR doesn't identify as Persian due to ...")
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
12:01 PM
@Færd I see.
@Færd In India (or at least Bombay), Irani is some kind of Iranian minority group.
Irani (India)
The Irani are an ethno-religious community in South Asia; they belong to the Zoroastrians who emigrated from Iran to South Asia in the 19th and 20th centuries. They are culturally, linguistically, ethnically and socially distinct from the Parsis, who – although also Zoroastrians – emigrated to the Indian subcontinent from Greater Iran many centuries before the Iranis did. == Distinction from Parsis == The Parsis and Iranis are considered legally distinct. A 1909 obiter dictum relating to the Indian Zoroastrians, also observed that Iranis (of the now defunct Bombay Presidency) were not obliged to...
But you may already know that.
So does Persian also have the connotations of ethnicity?
 
tchrist
tchrist
12:37 PM
@Færd Turkish?
 
 
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Færd
Færd
2:33 PM
@FaheemMitha I don't think that creates serious confusion, especially that they are of Iranian ancestry, and that they don't even call themselves Iranians (in English).
Nor do those Zoroastrians in India who call themselves Parsi. Although if I could I would probably revive Parsi as the name of the language that we have come to call Farsi.
@tchrist Azerbaijani Turkish, to be accurate, yes.
(@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ)
@FaheemMitha Do you mean the language?
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
3:08 PM
@Færd No, I mean if a person refers to himself/herself as Persian, does that have any ethnic implications?
Ethnic or racial, if you prefer.
 
 
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KannE
KannE
6:18 PM
@Suren writingcenter.unc.edu/relative-clauses Here's a handout regarding relative pronouns and clauses that you may find useful. BTW, it states that using "which" in a restrictive clause is "acceptable" but "that" is preferred, and some people object to using "which" in a restrictive clause...fiercely object--see Grammar Girl--ha-ha, really though. Good afternoon.
 
Educ
Educ
6:42 PM
Hi
please, which is formal : 1- It's come to my attention that 2-It has been brought ot my attention that .
Are they have the same meaning ?
1 sentence used in this scene in seinfeld :
second one I found it in Email
would you please Explain to me the differences between them ?
 
MetaEd
MetaEd
@Educ "It's" is relatively informal -- nearly all contractions are informal. "It is" is more formal.
@Educ Otherwise, "It has come to my attention" and "It has been brought to my attention" are both pretty formal. They have similar meanings. The difference is that the second one implies some third person was also involved, the person who "brought".
 
Educ
Educ
6:57 PM
@MetaEd Thank you so much, please what about : " It has come to my attention that some people think I am a troll."
3-It has come to my attention that
 
 
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Cerberus
Cerberus
8:03 PM
@Educ Sounds fine to me.
 
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
8:58 PM
@Færd so, well, I have no idea how to respond to that ping
Was it to confirm whether I am an Azerbaijani Turk and wear funny hats in winter?
I don't wear funny hats in winter
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Why not?
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
9:12 PM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Is it obligatory for Turks to wear funny hats? Is that what they call a fez?
 
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
@Cerberus 'cause it's not that cold anymore
@FaheemMitha no one wears traditional clothes anymore
 
Feeds
Feeds
0
Q: The Latin abbreviation/phrase meaning "rest"?

SasanIn my presentation sometimes I should continue the same topic in more than one slide. I kind of remember that some presenters used a Latin phrase or abbreviation in the title of the rest slides that continued the same topic. What is that phrase/abbreviation?

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M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
@Feeds restus
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ But if it's fun!
 
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
@Cerberus we hate fun! closing as POB
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
9:17 PM
Understandable.
Wat's POB?
 
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
Primarily Opinion-Based
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Close me!
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ What, nobody at all?
 
Feeds
Feeds
9:47 PM
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Q: Succinct form of inclusion only based on a condition?

Sean PiankaAn example: contains regions of brightness, excluding ones with densities below the threshold The opposite of exclude in this context would be include only, as in including only ones with densities above the threshold. Is there any single word for this, instead of include only?

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M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ
10:35 PM
@FaheemMitha only in TV commercials
 
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
11:09 PM
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Educ
Educ
Hi
@Cerberus what do you mean by « close me «
If it is close to me I will understand it as near to me
But close me do you meant it
figuratively or literally
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@Educ It was a joke, responding to a joke.
I am a POB question, so close me.
 
Færd
Færd
@FaheemMitha It would depend on the intention of the speaker mor than anything else, but Persian would be far more likely to bear racial overtones than Iranian.
(I've come to use race for Homo sapiens only in a negative context, after an argument I had with Cerb about it. I don't remember if he was right tho. :P)
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Færd Ok. I'll take your word for it.
 
Færd
Færd
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Just wanted to let you know we was talking about you.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
11:23 PM
@Færd I'm always right.
But my point was that it is better not to use it at all.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
@Cerberus Better not to use what?
 
Færd
Færd
@Cerberus Yeah right! distorts mouth
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
@FaheemMitha Use the word race to distinguish between groups of humans.
 
Færd
Færd
@Cerberus That just flies in the face of conventional usage.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Not really.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
11:25 PM
@Cerberus Hmm. However, it is widely done. And has some legitimate uses.
 
Færd
Færd
Racist?
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
There is only one country that is obsessed with this unnatural distinction based on 19th-century Eurocentric discriminatory theories and then misapplied to boot.
 
Færd
Færd
Half of language is misapplication originally.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
But it is best avoided where possible.
 
Færd
Færd
And that country has hundreds of millions of native speakers who can have their own dialect(s).
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
11:28 PM
I don't think the commonly used concept of race has much meaning, biologically speaking.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Most especially with sensitive issues.
@FaheemMitha It doesn't.
Let's not be the big, imperialist Satan's pawns!
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
Most of the time, it's just a convenient way to classify people into groups that looks somewhat alike. And possibly have some cultural similarities.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
It's just used in so many ways that makes in unclear.
And it's a concept from wrong theories.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
But if you look at the human genome, every human on the planet is genetically virtually indistinguishable from any other. Billionaire or peasant.
But of course people don't care about science.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
But we do.
Even people or tribe is better.
Or ethnicity.
Or even culture.
It depends on what you want to say, exactly.
 
Faheem Mitha
Faheem Mitha
11:33 PM
Sleep time. Take care, folks.
 
Cerberus
Cerberus
Sleep well.
 

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