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12:19 AM
@Mindwin: I disagree. True, the U.S. Constitution only protects speech from infringement by the federal and state governments; but the Constitution hardly has a monopoly on what "free speech" means. (Heck, it doesn't even use that term.) If I use whatever power I have to silence someone, I am absolutely targeting their free speech, regardless of whether my power is legislative, and regardless of whether I'm justified in using it that way. — ruakh 1 min ago
#13204 ruakh (101 rep) | A: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: 8) | posted 10 hours ago by Ray (181 rep) | edited 7 hours ago by Em C (6044 rep)
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+1 it's possible to be against both political correctness and racism... — Mehrdad 26 secs ago
#13201 Mehrdad (1782 rep) | A: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: 49) | posted 14 hours ago by FiatLux (321 rep) | edited 12 hours ago by FiatLux (321 rep)
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@MicroMachine Of course the majority of people does things that are obviously wrong. I do obviously wrong things every day. But it is a lot harder to agree that the majority of people can believe something that is obviously wrong. — sgf 55 secs ago
#13201 sgf (101 rep) | A: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: 50) | posted 14 hours ago by FiatLux (331 rep) | edited 12 hours ago by FiatLux (331 rep)
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12:57 AM
@sgf This is a tactic that is used by a well known white nationalist, he uses it in order to get people to not dismiss him as a bigot, one time my own stepson was taken in by this tactic. How do I politely address this tactic? There's the tl;dr for you. — apaul 37 secs ago
#13194 apaul (1 rep) | Q: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: 17) | posted 21 hours ago by apaul (1 rep) | edited 3 hours ago by apaul (1 rep)
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1:15 AM
I'm not sure how good a fit this question is for the site, so I won't post an answer. But if you're having trouble making friends, I'd suggest joining an adult club or using a tool like meetup.com. If you're focused on doing an activity or playing a game you won't need to worry about what to talk about! — scohe001 57 secs ago
#13230 scohe001 (278 rep) | Q: How do you know if you're worthy of friendship? (score: 0) | posted 2 hours ago by Dylan (1 rep) | edited 48 minutes ago by scohe001 (278 rep)
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1:42 AM
When presented with a free speech argument, one might also consider pointing out that by having a discussion or debate with this other person, they are doing more than advocating for free speech: they are acting that value out in real life. I suspect this would take much of the wind out of that argument's sails. I might've emphasized things a little differently (particularly the parts about being careful that you're correctly identifying these deflections), but this is an excellent answer. +1 — jpmc26 1 min ago
#13198 jpmc26 (153 rep) | A: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: 40) | posted 19 hours ago by Clay07g (1410 rep) | edited 12 hours ago by Malandy (119 rep)
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4:41 AM
Can answerers also address how one should respond if it's not a fellow passenger asking, but a flight attendant? — pacoverflow 1 min ago
#13221 pacoverflow (101 rep) | Q: How can I tactfully refuse to switch seats on flights? (score: 11) | posted 8 hours ago by Canada - Area 51 Proposal (1069 rep) | edited 2 hours ago by DoritoStyle (111 rep) | Has magic comment
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5:03 AM
As ever, it would be nice if the downvoter would educate me with their erudition so I may see what is wrong with my answer. Or not. — Russell McMahon 1 min ago
#13243 Russell McMahon (99 rep) | A: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: -1) | posted 33 minutes ago by Russell McMahon (99 rep)
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5:26 AM
@EricLippert Someone kindly edited my post to add this. I'm just hankering after an improved answer. — Canada - Area 51 Proposal 5 secs ago
#13221 Canada - Area 51 Proposal (1074 rep) | Q: How can I tactfully refuse to switch seats on flights? (score: 12) | posted 9 hours ago by Canada - Area 51 Proposal (1074 rep) | edited 1 minutes ago by Canada - Area 51 Proposal (1074 rep) | Has magic comment
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9:33 AM
@Styxal His response only sounds like confirmation you made the right choice. You're now one step closer to that license. — Belle-Sophie 1 min ago
#13133 Belle-Sophie (943 rep) | Q: How to tell driving instructor that I want to change instructors? (score: 25) | posted 3 days ago by Styxal (159 rep) | edited 3 days ago by Styxal (159 rep)
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10:19 AM
@CallumBradbury - :-) / thanks. I agree, but it's still a shame. In another life [SE-EE] I have more rep than one can shake a stick at so having a few knocked off in other forums does not cause too much concern - EXCEPT that it suggests that people who may benefit from a fresh point of view may be missing out . If you have not read it then you sound as though you'd find Haidt's book interesting and useful. Despite being 'somewhat old' and well experienced in the human condition, the book was immensely useful to me. — Russell McMahon 38 secs ago
#13243 Russell McMahon (111 rep) | A: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: -3) | posted 5 hours ago by Russell McMahon (111 rep) | edited 5 minutes ago by Russell McMahon (111 rep)
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@sleske: "Even if they are trying to reunite a group does not necessarily mean you need to give up a seat you like." - I agree with that outcome. However, note that to someone who is not aware of any quality difference between the seats, the answer that "I booked this seat, not that one." sounds really childish, if not actively mean-spirited (i.e. being intentionally uncooperative just to disrupt the asker's group). A brief hint that the seats are different and the OP paid more is all that's required to clear up such a situation. — O. R. Mapper 1 min ago
#13224 O. R. Mapper (119 rep) | A: How can I tactfully refuse to switch seats on flights? (score: 62) | posted 13 hours ago by baldPrussian (11837 rep) | edited 11 hours ago by baldPrussian (11837 rep)
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11:31 AM
I agree with a lot the sentiments in this answer, and I approve of your recommendation of Haidt's book. However, I also agree with @Tinkeringbell with the following "A little re-ordering of stuff might help." — Eff 2 mins ago
#13243 Eff (101 rep) | A: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: -3) | posted 7 hours ago by Russell McMahon (119 rep) | edited 1 hours ago by Tinkeringbell (17352 rep)
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11:47 AM
I'm upvoting this for mentioning Haidt, this book is an essential read. This will get downvoted into oblivion and then deleted, for the usual reasons. First, you're an engineer and you speak like one (ie, high signal to noise ratio, straight to the point, no baby steps). I like this style. I did the same at first on this Q&A and was quickly told I was rude and blunt LOL. Consider adding a little bit of sugar on top and explaining the obvious a little bit more. Second, you violated the ambient left-leaning narrative, so you will get DV from the usual suspects. — peufeu 1 min ago
#13243 peufeu (10893 rep) | A: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: -3) | posted 7 hours ago by Russell McMahon (127 rep) | edited 1 hours ago by Tinkeringbell (17351 rep)
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@wildcard I attempted to clarify my reasoning there. Thanks for the comment; the purpose was not to justify behavior and I agree that the Golden Rule is important. In this case, the other party is violating it; the best response IMHO is to not let it affect you. — baldPrussian 1 min ago
#13224 baldPrussian (11837 rep) | A: How can I tactfully refuse to switch seats on flights? (score: 64) | posted 14 hours ago by baldPrussian (11837 rep) | edited 2 minutes ago by baldPrussian (11837 rep)
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12:08 PM
Great answer, and I upvoted, but disagree with one thing. After declining, based on that you specifically reserved that seat weeks ago, if the person is hostile you are under no obligation to take the high road. Personally, I'd bite back loud enough for all in the vicinity to hear that you reserved your seat properly and you have every right to be comfortable/clean as anyone on the flight. — Thomas Carlisle 22 secs ago
#13224 Thomas Carlisle (581 rep) | A: How can I tactfully refuse to switch seats on flights? (score: 65) | posted 14 hours ago by baldPrussian (11837 rep) | edited 20 minutes ago by baldPrussian (11837 rep)
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12:53 PM
Welcome to Interpersonal.SE! I'm guessing that the downvotes are because only flying on Australian airlines is a) not an interpersonal skill, which is what this site is about, and b) not always possible, depending on where OP is flying to/from. — F1Krazy 54 secs ago
#13263 F1Krazy (103 rep) | A: How can I tactfully refuse to switch seats on flights? (score: -2) | posted 15 minutes ago by Jak (1 rep)
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1:13 PM
It might be on-topic for how to respond to a certain situation, provided you know what course of action you want to take. Warnng: that can lead to a LOT of posts here. — baldPrussian 1 min ago
#13251 baldPrussian (11837 rep) | Q: A list of sentences for each situation? (score: -4) | posted 5 hours ago by Atarax (1 rep) | edited 3 hours ago by Atarax (1 rep) | Has magic comment
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Hmmm... I chose that example because it was fairly uncontroversial (until I get excoriated by the unicorn-loving Atlantis true believers which infest this site like a plague). But prejudice has real world impact: it hurts real people. I would prefer it to desist. But I would rather see that happen through debate and rebuttal rather than the current zeitgeist of silencing people through oh so easily abused social pressure. But how do you debate someone who disagrees with you about basic tenets of reality? — Jared Smith 40 secs ago
#13249 Jared Smith (531 rep) | A: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: 5) | posted 6 hours ago by Callum Bradbury (171 rep)
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@ArwenUndómiel Edited! Please let me know if this suffices :) — jackwise 1 min ago
#13222 jackwise (428 rep) | A: How do I politely indicate that I want to go home? (score: 10) | posted 17 hours ago by jackwise (428 rep) | edited 1 minutes ago by jackwise (428 rep)
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"you can be fairly dismissive" - not really. How could they know you do without asking? Upvoted anyway because of the first paragraph that I find incredibly important and inexplicably missing in the other answers. — O. R. Mapper 40 secs ago
#13252 O. R. Mapper (119 rep) | A: How can I tactfully refuse to switch seats on flights? (score: 4) | posted 4 hours ago by Ben (131 rep) | edited 4 hours ago by Ben (131 rep)
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@BTownTKD That's a good point. You might find that such things really are separate. Very contextual, though. Disagreeing with various sexual orientations doesn't automatically make some a bigot. So I wouldn't recommend breaking down their belief systems unless you already are in such a conversation in which they have expressed explicit (or veiled) bigotry, as OP has outlined. This is more of a general comment to anyone reading my answer. — Clay07g 1 min ago
#13198 Clay07g (1585 rep) | A: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: 56) | posted 31 hours ago by Clay07g (1585 rep) | edited 24 hours ago by Malandy (119 rep)
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Thanks for the comment and the explanation. While flying on Australian airlines may not be an option for everyone, my suggestion is still valid because there will be airlines all around the world that honour the seat allocation system. I have edited my response to make my original comment clearer. — Jak 10 secs ago
#13263 Jak (9 rep) | A: How can I tactfully refuse to switch seats on flights? (score: -3) | posted 1 hours ago by Jak (9 rep) | edited 8 minutes ago by Jak (9 rep)
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1:38 PM
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@apaul Careful. Richard Spencer may have been using a logical fallacy on your stepson, but then you responded by using a logical fallacy to bring him back. In fact, you used the exact same one. yourlogicalfallacyis.com/geneticClay07g 52 secs ago
#13194 Clay07g (1585 rep) | Q: Politely refusing to validate veiled bigotry (score: 22) | posted 34 hours ago by apaul (1 rep) | edited 15 hours ago by apaul (1 rep)
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@sphennings I've edited my question. If it's still off topic then I can try again. — Hmm 1 min ago
#13268 Hmm (1 rep) | Q: How Do I convince my partner to go to the doctors (score: 0) | posted 18 minutes ago by Hmm (1 rep) | edited 2 minutes ago by Hmm (1 rep)
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@Trilarion Agreed, revised the example — jackwise 1 min ago
#13222 jackwise (428 rep) | A: How do I politely indicate that I want to go home? (score: 10) | posted 17 hours ago by jackwise (428 rep) | edited 13 minutes ago by jackwise (428 rep)
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2:59 PM
wouldn't it be funny to only give him non-IPS answers that don't even answer his question?
 
Why would that be funny?
 
give him a taste of his own medicine
 
No. That sounds like a really shitty thing to do...
 
It would be ironic, I don't know about funny though
 
im not gonna do it y'know ;)
@Rainbacon I've made too many mistakes by saying "that's ironic" when it wasn't. but yes you're correct :)
 
Joking about stuff that doesn't meet be nice and doesn't respect the other users, particularly on meta... really isn't acceptable. I know this site has been hectic in the last few days but if that user comes in here and sees what you're saying, they're going to feel even less welcome.
 
@Catija that's true and I'm sorry
 
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4:03 PM
+1, this is the best approach: interpersonal skills, after all, are ideally about making everyone better off when possible. I do this 100% of the time, and only once has it bitten me. (Trans-Atlantic flight, I explained that I didn't want to switch because I'd ordered the vegetarian meal, they replied that the girl I was switching with was also vegetarian . . . which maybe she was, but if so then she'd apparently failed to order the meal. In retrospect, I should have insisted on talking to a flight attendant before agreeing.) — ruakh 1 min ago
#13225 ruakh (101 rep) | A: How can I tactfully refuse to switch seats on flights? (score: 65) | posted 18 hours ago by Monica Cellio (12058 rep)
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4:19 PM
You're being gaslit, probably unintentionally but that you would even consider paying for him to stay at an airbnb! Your perspective of your relationship is all askew - he's walking all over you. Tell him "no, you've caused me too much trouble" and that's it. Don't get into an argument about why not, because he'll weasel a way back in. — Jim W 1 min ago
#13216 Jim W (101 rep) | Q: How do I follow through after setting a boundary for a friend who throws loud parties at my place? (score: 9) | posted 21 hours ago by Billy Doe (46 rep) | edited 20 hours ago by Tinkeringbell (17368 rep)
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5:24 PM
"because of factors beyond the person's control" +1 The wife and I have been on 20+ hour, multi-leg journeys, only to be told that for our last leg we're going to be seated half a plane away. While we can deal with it... one can understand why we'd at least ask. — NPSF3000 1 min ago
#13225 NPSF3000 (101 rep) | A: How can I tactfully refuse to switch seats on flights? (score: 71) | posted 20 hours ago by Monica Cellio (12058 rep)
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7:15 PM
Why not just ignore the email? — Salmononius2 1 min ago
#13282 Salmononius2 (101 rep) | Q: How can I tactfully tell my ex-superior that I don't owe him anything? (score: 12) | posted 4 hours ago by avazula (3931 rep) | edited 3 hours ago by avazula (3931 rep)
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9:34 PM
@Catija Really? I really like when downvoters explain what they didn't like in the comments (and I think it falls under "Leave constructive criticism") at interpersonal.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/commentGreg Schmit 6 secs ago
#13224 Greg Schmit (101 rep) | A: How can I tactfully refuse to switch seats on flights? (score: 106) | posted 24 hours ago by baldPrussian (11837 rep) | edited 9 hours ago by baldPrussian (11837 rep)
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10:04 PM
Do you have another job right now? If so, you could just say: "You haven't said if I would get exclusive authorship over this article, or how much you would pay me for it. But either way, doing additional work for a former employer while working for my current employer would simply be unfair to my current employer." Now of course, you could just use the last sentence, and not the first, if you really wanted to be diplomatic with this person, but personally, I wouldn't. It sounds like you've been far too nice already. Standing up for yourself would be good practice. That's how you gain respect. — Stephan Branczyk 1 min ago
#13282 Stephan Branczyk (2083 rep) | Q: How can I tactfully tell my ex-superior that I don't owe him anything? (score: 17) | posted 6 hours ago by avazula (3966 rep) | edited 1 hours ago by Community (1 rep)
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10:58 PM
I don't think this address the implied agreement between OP and the former superior. Of course they didn't have a contract, but the crux of the problem is the oral agreement that was definitely made. — DoritoStyle 44 secs ago
#13283 DoritoStyle (111 rep) | A: How can I tactfully tell my ex-superior that I don't owe him anything? (score: 38) | posted 7 hours ago by Link0352 (2415 rep)
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There was never an oral agreement for the OP to complete the report if I am understanding the OP’s post correctly. In the contract the supervisor was supposed to complete it, and he is now trying to coerce OP into doing it for him (for free) — Link0352 32 secs ago
#13283 Link0352 (2415 rep) | A: How can I tactfully tell my ex-superior that I don't owe him anything? (score: 38) | posted 7 hours ago by Link0352 (2415 rep)
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