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8:29 AM
Can anyone give me pointers about how something called xdg-open chooses what PDF viewer to use? In this particular instance, it's for use with gscan2pdf. Or should I post this as a question? Is it sufficiently well-formed?
 
8:47 AM
Also xdg-mime may be helpful
 
@MichaelHomer Thanks, but there isn't much there.
xdg-mime query default image/pdf
okularApplication_pdf.desktop
Ok, I guess that confirms that okular is used. Though it doesn't explain why Foxit Reader used to pop up instead of okular till recently.
root@orwell:/home/faheem# mimeopen -d file.pdf
Please choose a default application for files of type application/pdf

        1) MComix  (mcomix)
        2) Zathura  (zathura-pdf-poppler)
        3) Document Viewer  (evince)
        4) Master PDF Editor 4  (masterpdfeditor4)
        5) Xournal  (xournal)
        6) PDF-Shuffler  (pdfshuffler)
        7) GNU Image Manipulation Program  (gimp)
        8) Adobe Reader 9  (AdobeReader)
        9) flpsed  (flpsed)
        10) TeXworks  (texworks)
        11) xpdf  (xpdf)
Except that doesn't list either Okular or Foxit Reader
And how does it know about "Master PDF Editor 4", which is locally installed?
So many questions.
Is freedesktop.org considered to be part of GNOME?
 
 
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11:34 AM
@derobert You once pointed me to a frontend for KVM (I think). What was it called?
libvirt something?
 
 
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2:08 PM
Can anyone with their thinking cap on help this guy with a timezone conundrum: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/433604/… I can unfortunately not think today and it's unclear whether the system time is set to UTC on the affected machines. He should also be using a link to the zoneinfo file for his specific capital/city, not the generic EET zoneinfo file (which is wrong for Jordan and Syria).
 
2:29 PM
@derobert I think it was probably virt-manager. Are you still using that?
The context is that Jeffrey Ratcliffe asked me:
> Which VM works best for you under Debian?
 
 
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5:12 PM
@FaheemMitha yeah, I still use virt-manager (which is a libvirt client)
 
@derobert Ok. And how would you answer Jeffrey's question? Which would be closed on any SE site, so I won't bother trying to ask it.
 
I'm using KVM. libvirt can manage a bunch of different hypervisors, though.
 
@derobert So that's your preferred VM? Even compared to a chroot?
 
well, a chroot is hardly a VM
not even a container
 
@derobert It mimics one fairly well for undemanding tasks like build testing.
 
5:16 PM
as long as the build test doesn't need root, sure...
I mostly don't bother with chroots and instead use Docker or rkt.
 
@derobert I forget why root is a problem in chroots.
@derobert rkt?
 
I can give a half-decent answer for "Which VM works best for you under Debian and derivatives?"
from experience ;P
@FaheemMitha because root in a chroot != UID 0 System Root
 
@ThomasWard I'm tempted to ask the question here, but I don't want to upset the mods. :-)
 
@FaheemMitha because it's not really isolated, and root can trivially break out
@FaheemMitha and a lot of root actions aren't isolated at all (e.g., listening on a privileged port)
 
@FaheemMitha you mean on U&L
not in this chatroom :P
 
5:17 PM
@derobert Hmm. Still ok if you aren't worried about security.
@ThomasWard Yes, I mean U&L.
 
@FaheemMitha chroot kernel/portbinding restrictions :P
 
A programmer with good knowledge of Bash told me that when Bash came out, "some people had hard time" to move away from SH to Bash. Is that correct in your opinion?
 
@FaheemMitha for virtualization I use either KVM / libvirt, or VMware ESXi, depending on the power needed and the availability (24/7 or temporary as-needed)
just to give you my answer :P
though much of what I do runs in unprivileged LXD containers now
 
@FaheemMitha see second point. If testing requires root, it's often because (e.g.,) it needs to listen on :80. That isn't isolated by a chroot, so having a web server running on your machine breaks the test.
 
@ThomasWard VMware isn't really an option.
 
5:19 PM
Is there a shell "threatening" Bash that is likely to replace Bash in the Debian and CentOS worlds in the coming, say, five years?
 
@FaheemMitha I know, but i'm just giving you my answer :P
(though VMware ESX has a free edition that gives you the basic virtualization platform, which is all I use at home :P)
 
@ThomasWard You mean LXC?
 
@FaheemMitha No, LXD
 
@ThomasWard Yes, that's how they hook you.
 
built off liblxc but :P
@FaheemMitha $0 for me. literally.
 
5:20 PM
 
(I still have the license from when I was in school and got it through their free-for-education-and-students program)
 
@user9303970 There is always resistance to move away from that which is known. So I could definitely see that moving to bash may be difficult to some, just from a human behaviour point of view. Then there's the technical bit where you need to make suro that every single existing script still works with bash (if you're replacing sh with bash that is).
 
@ThomasWard So, LXC and LXD are related?
 
@FaheemMitha you probably want to read up on the linuxcontainers.org site.
 
@ThomasWard Doesn't it time out eventually?
@ThomasWard I do?
Reading sucks. AI slaves can't get here soon enough.
 
5:22 PM
@FaheemMitha vCenter does, but I have just one system for the hypervisor at home, when the vSphere license for pro features expires (May) it falls back to the perpetual free license, and I use the free esx-ui 'fling' from VMware on that.
 
@FaheemMitha rkt is another container runner (subset of Docker, or similar to systemd-nspawn, or several others...)
 
> LXD isn't a rewrite of LXC, in fact it's building on top of LXC to provide a new, better user experience. Under the hood, LXD uses LXC through liblxc and its Go binding to create and manage the containers.
@derobert It's getting increasingly hard to keep track of all these different options.
 
@FaheemMitha related, yes. But much more user friendly.
 
@FaheemMitha Indeed...
 
oops
 
5:23 PM
Apparently Go is the new hotness.
@ThomasWard oops?
 
yeah i double-pinged within the same post :P
it had you @ pinged twice :P
 
So LXD is more user friendly than LXC?
 
I suspect a lot of folks run several. E.g., I have Docker running here mainly because of how well GitLab integrates with it.
 
@derobert I expect they do.
 
@FaheemMitha Yes. Though under the hood they're almost identical, LXD is a lot more friendly to manage ;P
in my opinion. Plus Ubuntu has daily images that I can spin up via LXD for tests of things, so... shrugs
 
5:24 PM
@ThomasWard Good to know. How do you find virt-manager? Assuming you use it, of course.
 
i haven't had to touch my KVM box in an eon, so I haven't touched virt-manager in a long while
last time I used it though it was 'alright'
but I prefer the LXD containerization method, because then each container has its own IP and I can do standard iptables NAT rules with an easy-to-configure bridge (that LXD ultimately manages, but it's far easier to set up than using brctl and setting up the bridge myself).
 
@ThomasWard That's good feedback. Thanks. So networking is easier than with KVM?
And how do all of these compare with VirtualBox? If you'll forgive me for going lowbrow.
 
there's a specific place I put VBox.
it's round, circular, and smells of trash and decay.
 
@FaheemMitha part of the reason there are so many are how different people's needs are. VMs and containers are used for everything from developers locally doing testing to Google. There are definitely different solutions for people who can easily count their VMs, could count there VMs with a little effort, and folks who could maybe hope to write a program to approximate the number they have...
 
^ this
 
5:28 PM
@ThomasWard Not a VirtualBox fan, apparently.
 
@FaheemMitha there's a thousand different solutions to pretty much every problem on the book, when relating to virtualization.
 
@derobert You forgot all the people who don't have any. Or maybe had some once.
 
each has their pros and cons
 
@ThomasWard KVM/libvirt can be configured with a bridge too (how I run it here).
 
@ThomasWard I hope that's not literally true.
 
5:28 PM
@derobert True, but last I checked you still have to set it up manually via brctl which isn't super straightforward..
 
@derobert Sounds like LXD has easier networking, though.
 
@FaheemMitha here's the key question though
 
Errr, it's possible you need to create the bridge manually — not sure — but libvirt definitely handles adding/removing devices as needed
 
@derobert ok
 
@FaheemMitha that question being "What is your goal?"
if your goal is to have something that 'runs easily' containers probably are the way to go. if you're trying to get the feel for an OS in its entirety, a VM is probably the way to go
 
5:30 PM
I have the one on this machine created via /etc/network/interfaces, which also adds the physical Ethernet port
 
@ThomasWard Mmm. Well, in the context of Jeffrey's original question, it would be to do build testing.
 
@FaheemMitha of software?
i'd just containerize that, you usually don't need root to run a compile
 
@ThomasWard Yes, Debian packages.
 
Containers also offer better performance in most cases, sometimes significantly.
 
indeed
 
5:31 PM
VMs are generally more secure.
 
the only odd case is, say, kernel packages.
agreed with derobert on the security component
 
What's the main difference between containers and a VM?
 
VMs emulate a computer. Which then boots its own kernel, etc.
 
^ this
 
5:32 PM
Containers do not. They just use features of the Linux kernel to isolate PIDs, filesystems, network interfaces, etc. The container uses the same kernel as the host.
 
@derobert Some VMS use the same kernel as the host too.
 
and the host can "see" what's running within the containers.
@FaheemMitha those aren't true virtualization
 
@ThomasWard I suppose not.
 
VPSes, for instance, a lot used OpenVZ as their base architecture - that's containerized virtualization.
KVM is fully virtualized
 
Would a chroot count as a "container"?
 
5:33 PM
@FaheemMitha they may boot the same kernel, but then they're running a separate copy. Or they're not really VMs
 
@FaheemMitha No
not really
 
@derobert oh.
 
@FaheemMitha It lacks most of the isolation. But chroot is one of the bits that containers are built on top of
 
@derobert ok
So what's so bad about VirtualBox?
 
you mean other than it's an Oracle thing?
 
5:34 PM
For build testing, I'd recommend a container as well.
 
@FaheemMitha with VBox, its networking is 'okay' but doesn't play well with some locked-down environments. It's got horrible USB passthrough, and doesn't play well with some hardware.
but for just running Debian package builds, containers should be more than fine
 
@ThomasWard Yes, aside from that.
 
Usually you're building code that you basically trust, aren't building as root, and you aren't running such wildly different environments that you need different kernels. And there is plenty of automation available with containers.
 
(I actually do the builds for my PPA-destined packages in Ubuntu in a local container first, before throwing them at the PPA builders)
 
@ThomasWard You're still talking about VBox, right?
 
5:36 PM
@FaheemMitha Yep.
 
So what's a preferred container?
 
For that use case, I'd suggest use whatever your preferred automation suggests.
 
^ this
 
@derobert I don't know what that means.
If I want to test a Debian package build for unstable on my stable machine, what do I use?
 
Example: with GitLab, every time I push a commit, it automatically spawns a container, builds it, runs the test suite, and shows the status alongside the commit.
It can also automatically upload builds, etc...
 
5:39 PM
@derobert Oh, it does everything for you? Hello, AI slaves.
 
Yep!
 
Of course, you have to use Git. That's the downside.
 
@FaheemMitha if configured to do so, yes.
@FaheemMitha if you're doing it manually then it's "Take Your Pick" based on the automation environment or not.
 
There are other systems, too. I bet there is even one for CVS somewhere...
 
@FaheemMitha sbuild with the sbuild schroots which are overlayfs based, or pbuilder
 
5:40 PM
@ThomasWard You said you use Docker.
@ThomasWard Yes, I know those. I meant those container thingys.
Since that's what you were recommending.
 
No, I said I use lxc/lxd
 
But the point is, GitLab recommends Docker (at least at my scale). So I run Docker for that. If GitLab instead suggested something else, I'd run something else.
 
@derobert Point taken.
 
@FaheemMitha If there's no automation in the process, then it's Dealer's Choice, I prefer using LXD containers, but I've also used dedicated VMs for it as well in some cases.
depending on the needs and resources available
 
@ThomasWard Incidentally, what's with your terrifying avatar? You look like a supervillain.
 
5:42 PM
And if there is no automation... might want to change that. Automation is nice!
 
you don't want to see some of the other avatars I have on other sites.
 
@ThomasWard So LXD is a container, but LXC is a VM?
 
@FaheemMitha no
 
Both are containers.
 
@ThomasWard Probably not.
 
5:42 PM
okay let's start over
 
@derobert LXC is a container too? Ok.
 
VIRTUALIZATION:
 - VMware
    * On desktops: VMware Workstation / Player
    * As a full hypervisor running many VMs on a server: ESXi
 - KVM
 - HyperV (Microsoft)
 - VirtualBox

CONTAINERIZATION:
 - LXD (uses LXC under the hood)
 - LXC
 - Docker
 - {Insert other solutions here}
 - OpenVZ
2
 
@FaheemMitha I should hope so, consider it's called Linux Containers...
 
Right, LXC stands for Linux Containers
Thank you. That was helpful.
 
the list above I just posted is my preferred order within each category
and for package-builds that don't need elevated privs or such, I use containers over virtualization
in 99% of cases
 
5:44 PM
@ThomasWard Yes, I see.
That's a very helpful conversation. Assuming I can remember any of it afterwards.
 
@FaheemMitha managing a bunch of containers by hand gets tiring. LXD is automation to take care of that problem — that's how it's built on LXC
 
@derobert Sounds handy. I should take a look.
So would LXD be a reasonable thing to recommend to Jeffrey? Assuming he cares.
And is it better than something like sbuild/pbuilder?
 
I'd still use sbuild/pbuilder even in a containerized environment.
but that's just me.
sbuild can be configured to spawn a local VM for the build environment for foreign archs, which is coincidentally how I use it on my own personal laptop
 
@ThomasWard oh. I guess it does some of the specific Debian build automation?
 
but if he's not doing packaging builds which have specific workflows internally, and just compiling code, a container alone is enough.
 
5:48 PM
(There are sometimes you need VMs for builds — e.g., if you need to do builds for a different OS. You can't run Windows in a Linux container. Or if you need to do builds for, e.g., sarge, which probably won't run on a modern kernel)
 
@FaheemMitha correct, within package building there's a lot of steps that DebHelper uses, and packaging / dpkg uses during the build process
 
@ThomasWard Yes, I vaguely remember that.
 
and as derobert says, there's some cases where VMs are better than Containers.
 
But containers would be my first choice, too, unless there is some reason it's not possible (as above)
 
@derobert Right. Actually, I managed to semi-break my VPS by trying to upgrade it. Which the hosting service specifically says you should not try to do. Sigh.
Still need to fix that.
 
5:49 PM
@FaheemMitha I have 17 VPSes from RamNode, the only ones I can't upgrade are the OpenVZ ones, which are containerized.
the rest are KVM based VPSes.
and those I can upgrade independently of the host because they're fully virtualized
 
@ThomasWard Yes, I think my VPS is OpenVZ. And RamNode too, coincidentally.
 
this is why people confuse 'virtual machine' and 'containers' so much, because they do some of the same things.
 
But isn't 17 VPSs rather expensive?
 
@FaheemMitha RamNode offers OVZ and KVM so :P
@FaheemMitha most of them are small. I have 3 VDSes which are pricier but they run most of my stuff now
 
@ThomasWard But much more expensive.
 
5:50 PM
@FaheemMitha Cheaper than 17 servers...
 
@FaheemMitha as the individual VPSes expire I start moving their data onto containers in the VDSes which are LXD-backed internally
so :p
 
@derobert True. But for that number you might just want your own server, and then you can run as many VPSs as you want.
 
I actually got a VM working on OpenBSD the other day, using the native vmd daemon. It was pretty easy. But you guys are probably not interested in OpenBSD details like that... ;-)
 
@FaheemMitha Most of mine are grandfathered in under older discount codes, it actually turns out cheaper to run them in RamNode than to get a dedicated server in a datacenter
but that's for my use cases
not the average use case.
 
@ThomasWard That's remarkable. RamNode is cheap, but I didn't think it was that cheap.
How much does it cost to have your own server in a datacenter? Approximately?
 
5:53 PM
You get discounts when you pay quarterly/semiannually/annually vs. monthly.
 
@FaheemMitha Sure. But then you're responsible for redundancy, server maintenance, etc. A lot of people chose to outsource that.
 
@FaheemMitha Depends on the data center, power consumption of your systems, the network connection you get, the amount of rack space you take up...
a ton of factors
 
@ThomasWard Ballpark figure.
 
impossible to give
 
Somewhere between $50–$200/U probably.
 
5:54 PM
Say a single machine, like a workstation.
 
@FaheemMitha you don't put those in datacenters for colocation
 
@derobert Hmm. That's not cheap.
 
they'll tell you to 'shove it'
@derobert Easily.
 
@ThomasWard Why?
 
and that's not counting the price of IP blocks, network connectivity, etc.
 
5:55 PM
@FaheemMitha see here for example, $99/month for a small server
 
@ThomasWard nah, they'll be happy to charge you 4U for that...
 
@StephenKitt Thank you.
 
@derobert Some of them. Others, not so much.
I usually don't go for dedicated servers from third parties, I usually rack-mount my own servers in a datacenter and pay for colocation
 
@StephenKitt So basically you're renting a machine, if I understand correctly.
 
... or steal some rackspace from my employer with their permission and pay for the separate lines that come in for internet :P
 
5:56 PM
@FaheemMitha yes, along with space in the datacentre, connectivity etc.
and some level of support
 
Meaning the machine isn't really yours.
 
@FaheemMitha no
 
@StephenKitt Sounds like a reasonable option.
 
Well, if you want redundancy, you'll need at least two of them. Preferably in different data centers.
 
@StephenKitt Meaning you're agreeing?
 
5:57 PM
@FaheemMitha Yes, he means that the machine is usually not yours.
 
@ThomasWard ok. :-)
 
@FaheemMitha yes, as Thomas says I’m agreeing with you, the server doesn’t belong to you
 
@ThomasWard That sounds stressful, unless the data center is close.
 
@FaheemMitha Close is definitely an important criteria!
 
Presumably you are doing your own hardware management and stuff.
 
5:59 PM
which is why the stuff I really need racked, I use a spare rack we have at my employer's server room, I pay for my power consumption, and then the internet circuit that comes in for it.
 
I actually handled some hardware in one of Duke's computer rooms. Not a fun job.
I was handicapped by the fact that I don't know anything about hardware.
 
Finding a close data center around here isn't a problem. More or less, find any large building. It's either Costco, or a data center.
 
ultimately, though, it's really a Your Mileage Will Vary case for when you're hunting individual systems, etc. and running on dedis offsite or such.
and it can get pricey quickly.
 
@ThomasWard Your employer gives you a power bill?
 
i don't consume much :P
 
6:01 PM
@ThomasWard ok
 
i'm moving most of my stuff off-site though, either to my own apartment or to a datacenter itself, or virtualizing it and pulling it into my own hypervisors or containerizing it and putting it into my RamNode VDSes as containers.
so :p
 
@derobert Sounds like a fun neighborhood. Provided you're an Android.
 
Depending on where I go for lunch, I'll see at least one data center under construction on the way. And drive by who knows how many...
I'm guessing whoever is building them purchased the parts at said Costco, and thus got a ten-pack.
 
@derobert Let's hope all those computers don't transcend. They'd be unstoppable.
 
Thankfully they're normally attached to the cabinet pretty firmly. As long as we keep the screwdrivers away from the computers, we'll be fine. And I doubt they can operate a quick-release, no one can :-/
 
6:06 PM
Is your area a particularly good place for datacenters then?
 
Northern VA? Yeah....
 
I wonder why.
Here I believe they have call centers.
 
I'm not sure. History is surely part of it. Early Internet infrastructure happened to be here, and more grew up alongside it.
 
Anyway, thanks for the discussion, guys. Very helpful.
@derobert Isn't the headquarters of the CIA around there too?
 
Something like a quarter of the world's Internet traffic used to flow through one building here...
@FaheemMitha yeah, and the NSA too. Quite a lot of government HQs within < 50 mi of here.
 
6:09 PM
Fairfax County. Hmm.
 
Well, I'm in Loudoun, but...
 
@derobert That might have something to do with it. They're probably using all those computers to spy on all of us.
@derobert I didn't mean you personally.
 
I think the NSA built there huge spy operation in Utah, actually, where land is cheaper...
biz.loudoun.gov/key-business-sectors/data-centers claims 70% of Internet traffic goes through Loudoun. I sort of doubt that... but still...
 
@derobert I see you're right next to Fairfax.
You could probably get in your car and drive to the CIA headquarters in Langley.
Not that you would want to.
 
yep, grew up in Fairfax. Currently ~a mile from the county line.
@FaheemMitha I've certainly been past it before...
 
6:14 PM
@derobert Does it look super-sinister?
 
Not really.
I'm sure there are plenty of pictures online
 
@derobert I mean, in person.
I bet it has a sinister aura. Like those houses in horror movies.
 
@FaheemMitha Errr... I don't think that exists outside films.
 
@derobert Hmm. Well, I haven't visited myself, so I'll reserve my opinion.
 
Honestly, they have a "George Bush Center for Intelligence" ... that's more comical than sinister...
 
6:20 PM
@derobert Elder or Younger?
 
I'm not sure.
 
I wonder if they do guided tours.
 
Elder, apparently.
 
@FaheemMitha quora.com/…
apparently not
 
The CIA museum is there...
But yeah, good luck getting in.
 
6:22 PM
@StephenKitt What a shame.
 
@FaheemMitha well, how many places of business or government (even famous ones) provide guided tours? not many at all...
 
@StephenKitt Sure, but most places of business don't make it their business to topple govts and assassinate foreign leaders.
 
Last I heard, the White House still gives tours. And they make it their business to topple the entire world.
 
@derobert They give tours?
 
6:28 PM
Huh, when my mother and I visited DC in 2000, we could have gone to see the White House. Why didn't I think of that? She would have liked it.
(She was visiting.)
We did go to see the Lincoln Memorial.
And the Smithsonian, I think.
They had an exhibition of Natural History, which included the Native Americans, I remember. Because the Native Americans were just animals, as everyone knows.
My mother was outraged, and spent some time lecturing the museum guards about it. They took it in good part.
I remember the Lincoln Memorial was very impressive.
For some reason it was built via private donations. Never quite figured out why.
 
A lot of monuments in the US are...
 
Hmm, the White House Tour thing sounds complicated.
 
@FaheemMitha They have a National Museum of the American Indian now... but that apparently opened in 2004.
 
@derobert Yay for the American Indian.
Speaking as an Indian Indian.
 
Errr, I think that museum is the other meaning of Indian.
 
6:38 PM
@derobert Yes, I know. I was being satirical.
The whole Indian thing for Native Americans is a sore point with me.
 
Well, Columbus was an idiot...
Got the size of the Earth wrong by a substantial amount, but got lucky and found land anyway.
 
Yes, but it wasn't necessary to keep using that terminology.
 
I'm not sure why that museum does, for opening so recently.
 
It's seems that it is now accepted terminology, unfortunately.
With people willing to defend it, too.
 
(And I'm sort of curious how Columbus thought he got to India, without hitting China first. Maybe his micro-Earth wasn't large enough to hold China. Never looked it up...)
 
6:45 PM
And seemingly even Native Americans use the term.
@derobert You can get to India without hitting China.
India has a big East and West coast.
 
Sure, but you've got to sail a fair bit south of where he did...
 
@derobert He probably wasn't terribly good at navigation.
 
And then you hit Malaysia instead.
... hard to sail across the Pacific to India without hitting something else first.
I'm also not sure how good a map of Asia was available in Europe at the time. Probably not very good.
 
@derobert He probably didn't know about that.
 
Seems hard to believe they didn't know about China, though.
 
6:49 PM
@derobert Yes, I expect they did. But they probably didn't have detailed cartographical information.
This is an area I know little about, but isn't a lot of our big scale cartographical knowledge due to satellites?
 
Hmmm.. I bet Google can answer...
 
The Internet knows everything.
 
... if that works, that's the North America from 1924. Looks reasonably accurate...
 
Yes, so not satellites then. I wonder what technology they used.
 
Surveying, I'd guess...
 
7:02 PM
@derobert What about physical access?
 
?
 
All those tiny little islands in remote regions?
And countries that Western cartographers couldn't set foot in?
 
Well, probably a lot of the tiny ones aren't on the map. Unless a ship ran across them. And surely even the few places western cartographers hadn't been able to go, trade with the local cartographers?
 
I've no idea.
Might be a reasonable question for some SE.
 
davidrumsey.georeferencer.com/maps/264308210489/view lets you compare it, though it broke after a bit here — either Chromium or nVidia decided that was quite enough.
Looks like Chromium. Still working in Firefox.
All kinds of mistakes on it. But it has the basic shape right.
 
7:10 PM
I'm not sure what I am looking at. And what are all those red lines?
 
that map looks to have undersea cables mapped
 
@derobert oh?
 
all those lines through the ocean (and over land, too)
 
@derobert I see. I'm surprised they had all that information.
 
 
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10:15 PM
Hello, is something bad with my code here? I get no cron error in mail...

#!/bin/bash
for dir in /var/www/html/*/; do
if pushd "$dir"; then
wp plugin update --all --allow-root
wp core update --allow-root
wp language core update --allow-root
wp theme update --all --allow-root
rse
popd
fi
done
I thought something is bad because I found two WordPress plugins not updated, but maybe I'm wrong.
 

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