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dessert
dessert
12:01 AM
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy done. askubuntu.com/a/986979/507051
 
 
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Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
1:50 AM
Why must Archive Manager read an entire .tar.gz just to get the list of files in the archive.
 
TheWanderer
TheWanderer
becuz
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
That's no fun when the archive is 1.5 GB.
 
TheWanderer
TheWanderer
use Ark
Ark iz gud
 
IanC
IanC
I'm thinking I should commit more..
I thought I hated Microsoft before, but everyday it passes I get to hate it more for making IE @NathanOsman
They don't support <input type="number">, come on -.-
or required
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Those are all HTML5 attributes.
 
IanC
IanC
2:02 AM
you're right, it's not Microsoft's fault (this time)
I head of Number Polyfill, maybe I can use it for backwards compatibility
or I can just ignore IE10-
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
2:57 AM
Yeah, I'd try to support IE10 at a minimum.
11 otherwise. You gotta at least support the latest version.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
3:49 AM
@ThomasWard Thanks for nuking the comments, they became ridiculous
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
4:07 AM
Hi folks, I need another VTC as dupe on askubuntu.com/questions/986728/wireless-completely-disappeared since I already used my close vote earlier.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@DavidFoerster I can chip in a vote. dupe_target.get() ?
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy: It's in the comments. Thanks for the help.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Done. You're welcome
Care to chip in an opinion on my meta question ?
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
I'll take a look.
 
Ask Ubuntu Meta
Ask Ubuntu Meta
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Q: Does the title of this question capture OP's question well enough?

Sergiy KolodyazhnyyOK, so we have this HNQ, which gathered quite a lot of attention, snarky comments, and a small edit war between me and another user about the title of the question . I've edited the answer to match the body of the question. Issue is that it can be viewed from different points of view: is OP aski...

discussion editing asking-questions
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
4:14 AM
Ah, here it is. Meta took its sweet time
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
Imho all edits after askubuntu.com/revisions/986395/2 were either superfluous or harmful to convey the intention of the question author as far as I understand it.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Alright. What about the current title ?
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
It conflicts with the body of the question.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Hmmm :/ alright
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
4:37 AM
Interesting 
$ time $'\n'
+ '
'
+ '[' -x /usr/lib/command-not-found ']'
+ /usr/lib/command-not-found -- '
'

: command not found
+ return 127
literal newline is attempted to be interpreted by bash, as if IFS didn't work at all
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
5:19 AM
Yooo
Anyone got any idea of wtf is happening here, getting the error `E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
`
Everyone says install aptitude and use it
I don't want to install aptitude. I want to fix the problem
where do I go looking, I have no held packages.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
5:48 AM
Hi @EvanCarroll.
I haven't seen you in a really long time.
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
How bad were the withdrawals, hope all is fine? Not all weather it so well.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
In regards to the error... you can try running this to find out more about what apt thinks is the problem: 
sudo apt-get install -f
People are likely suggesting aptitude since it is more verbose than apt-get.
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
doesn't do anything. =(
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Hmm...
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
I like to understand my package system. I'd rather know why than have magic sauce.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
5:52 AM
Right - but I meant that aptitude prints more descriptive error messages.
I'm actually using Arch right now, not Ubuntu so I can't really check any of the commands I'd give you :(
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
Yea, this will be my last year on Ubuntu
New years resolution time coming up
I just don't want to go out defeated. That's no fun.
Going to migrate to Qubes.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
hm
askubuntu.com/a/363244/17681 was this suggested?
(I'm currently on fedora on the desktop, and my ubuntu server's remarkably vanilla and unbroken)
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
Yep, I already put the results up there
Ubuntu isn't doing anything interesting, and it's not particularly polished anymore.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
Qubes is pretty cool from what I hear.
Lemme know how it goes.
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
Will do, at least it's exciting. And, though based on security, I like that they're making radical changes to achieve their goal.
They migrated from KDE to Enlightenment (which is my preferred DM).
So it's really just a jump from dpkg to rpm, and I've used red hat based distros before so it shouldn't be that bad.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
6:04 AM
I use Enlightenment on a low-cost netbook and I love how few resources it uses.
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
Yep, it's great all around.
I'm running Xubuntu now
and have been for a very long time.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
LXQT for me, and I only really need one GUI app running really (well two)
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
Before Ubuntu I was on Slack.
There are no other apps except chrome and xfce4-terminal
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
what else do you need? ;p
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
@JourneymanGeek I run LXDE on my desktop.
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
6:05 AM
I really wish xfce4-terminal supported ligatures though
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I need X for my torrent client (until they do a RSS/webui)
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
rtorrent?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
qbitorrent
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
@JourneymanGeek I've contributed some code to LxQt, so you might be running some of my code on your computer :P
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
really nice torrent/rss handling with the ability to set rules on them
also works very well with my home setup. Only issue is the webui dosen't support it, so I can't go with a fully X-less setup
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
6:07 AM
@NathanOsman you play with SQL Server 2017?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@NathanOsman also works well on small/low res screens
got it on a 7 incher ;p
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
@EvanCarroll Afraid not.
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
been taking it apart
 
Evan Carroll
Evan Carroll
6:37 AM
I'm going to be #1 for Database Administrators this year. ;)
But, I wont have the gold badge for postgresql which bloowwwzzz
 
 
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Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
8:17 AM
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Q: Bash - Simplify file path from "find"

kpjVideoCurrently I'm trying to find some files using the find command. find -wholename "./blah/*.mp4" This returns: ./blah/blah2/a.mp4 ./blah/blah2/b.mp4 etc. Is there anyway I can simplify the output of this so that it only returns: blah/blah2/a.mp4 without the beginning two characters (being ./ ) ...

bash ubuntu
 
dessert
dessert
9:16 AM
@dessert nope, 1(){ echo "hi"; } works even in posix mode :/ — Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy 5 mins ago
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy That is definitely worth being brought to the attention of the devs IMO.
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
huh, I thought that function names can not begin with a numeral?
 
dessert
dessert
btw, did you try the function 1 { echo "hi"; } form as well? I read there are differences…
@Videonauth we're talking about mksh, where quite unsuspected this actually is possible
even in POSIX mode!
which seems like a bug
See this and the linked question:
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Q: Space literal as function name in bash

Sergiy KolodyazhnyyThis question is loosely related to one of my previous ones. TL;DR from muru's answer is that characters in function name have to be on Portable Character Set in order to be valid for a function name. Problem is that space is on the list (the <space> or <U0020> character), which is why I'm confus...

command-line bash syntax
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
do you have meanwhile python 3.6 running?
 
dessert
dessert
@Videonauth me?
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
yep
 
dessert
dessert
9:30 AM
Yes, it was relatively easy using virtualenv and following the instructions on ubuntuusers.de…
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
cool
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
I guess I could submit an issue on github
 
dessert
dessert
I have no idea what OP is actually up to here: askubuntu.com/q/986313/507051
@Videonauth There's something you probably didn't know about at yet: unix.stackexchange.com/q/411022/246819 – do not feel obligated to upvote, I just think you might be interesting in the fact.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@dessert maybe OP's screen ( actual hardware ) has the borders they're talking about, in which case that's NOP ( not our problem)
 
dessert
dessert
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy :D
How unclear can a question be? askubuntu.com/q/987049/507051
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
9:49 AM
mirbsd.org/wtf.htm I like this utility
 
dessert
dessert
@Videonauth I actually (temporarily) abandoned python in favor of a remind setup that allows me to finally get rid of thunderbird+lightning for mail and calendar/notifications – such easy tasks are not supposed to take so many system resources IMO.
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
i sat the past days over a tool idea , but it turned out morecomplicated as i first thought of
 
dessert
dessert
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy seems like German humor to me ;P
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Perhaps the authors used to be Munich sysadmin
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
fighting with the os library
 
dessert
dessert
10:01 AM
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy “äpp”, “Kopiën” and stuff like that points to a… dedicated character. :P
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@dessert pity it's not an unsigned long character
( C programming reference, just in case you didn't get it )
Also . . . pointers . . .
 
dessert
dessert
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Isn't C long dead? (just trolling)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Through strange eons even death will die. But not COBOL.
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@dessert Nah, it was simply cast to void
BTW, have I already mentioned that original bourne shell was written in obfuscated C to look like ALGOL ?
 
Fabby
Fabby
Good morning everyone!
 
dessert
dessert
10:06 AM
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy Why does one obfuscate code?
 
Fabby
Fabby
Does anyone know this one?
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Q: How to keep 4 Linux kernels in /boot by default before they are removed automatically

FabbyI did some digging around and found that the automatic clean-up for kernels is in /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal and the file states: # In the common case this results in two kernels saved (booted into the # second-latest kernel, we install the latest kernel in an upgrade), but # can sa...

apt package-management kernel
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby \o
oh wait no, that's the wrong arm for a German…
o/
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@dessert well, one reason is to participate in obfuscated C contest, which is actually a thing; there's people writing like poems , which actually compile. But Bourne actually just liked ALGOL so much apparently, he obfuscated it for his own pleasure
 
Fabby
Fabby
@dessert :D It's an emoticon...
Don't overthink the arm!
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@Fabby There's a configuration somewhere in /etc/ for that, but I don't have clue which and where, I had a question about it though.
 
dessert
dessert
10:09 AM
@Fabby just kidding, it's long overdue to take this with humor IMO
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Also it's 3:09 AM here and I'm questoining why i am still here
 
dessert
dessert
@Videonauth <b> doesn't work with the usual code markup
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
huh ?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Fabby \o/
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
hehe @ser
how can i get file information with the os library or do i simply do a subprocess call to shell functions?
same for username groups etc
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
10:16 AM
@Videonauth what sort of file info ?
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
owner ID and GUID, permissions
existence (since simply trying to create and act on the error raised seems a bit crude approach)
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
$ python -c 'import os,sys; print os.stat(sys.argv[1])' /etc/passwd
posix.stat_result(st_mode=33188, st_ino=6035652, st_dev=2049, st_nlink=1, st_uid=0, st_gid=0, st_size=3035, st_atime=1512942309, st_mtime=1512942309, st_ctime=1512942309)
$ python -c 'import os,sys; print os.stat(sys.argv[1]).st_uid' /etc/passwd
0
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
os.path.exists ok
mhmm ok so stat returns a struct/namespace
ok thank you
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Also 
$ python -c 'import os,sys,pwd; print pwd.getpwuid(os.stat(sys.argv[1]).st_uid).pw_name' /etc/passwd
root
convert UID to username
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
btw did you see yesterday or so my applications of your lambda line? 
def strip_newline(lines):
    return list(map(lambda x: x.strip('\n'), lines))


def append_newline(lines):
    return list(map(lambda x: f'{x}\n', lines))
 
dessert
dessert
10:23 AM
@Fabby I think you just need to alter debkernels to include not only $previous_version, but also $pre-previous_version and $pre-pre-previous_version, which can be defined as pre-previous_version="$(echo "$debverlist" | sed -n 3p)" and pre-pre-previous_version="$(echo "$debverlist" | sed -n 4p)" respectively.
 
Fabby
Fabby
Cool!
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy /kick @SergiyKolodyazhnyy
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
@Videonauth Very nice. Although second one gives me syntax error
 
dessert
dessert
Of course this can only work if there are actually four kernel versions installed, else sed will… ah, just print out other versions that are kept anyway, so should do no harm.
 
Fabby
Fabby
@JourneymanGeek :D :D :D
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy python 3.6.3
 
Fabby
Fabby
10:26 AM
(cannot be misinterpreted) (cc @dessert)
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Ah, I'm still on 3.5.2 here
 
dessert
dessert
And muru already did the very same thing :)
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
def append_newline(lines):
    return list(map(lambda x: '{}\n'.format(x), lines))
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy for 3.x
i just love that f-string
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Alright, I'm gonna go sleep. I'm fairly satisfied with my answers and rep today.
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
makes the whole thing more readable
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
10:29 AM
@Videonauth Initially it looked to me like F(x) math function definition :3
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
well it kinda is formatet string function so yes :) kinda
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Owl-so, sharing is caring. wolfram.schneider.org/bsd/7thEdManVol2
 
Videonauth
Videonauth
f'Testtext {var_A} text text text {var_B!r} (this one is raw btw)'
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Old unix documentation stuff
 
Fabby
Fabby
@muru thanks. Have to split now, will test later and accept (upvoted already)
:-) :-) :-)
 
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy
10:32 AM
Adieu, folks ! I'm off
 
dessert
dessert
@SergiyKolodyazhnyy sleep tight!
 
Fabby
Fabby
11:31 AM
@dessert What did you change in my question to have ir formatted correctly? (I can't see the difference)
 
dessert
dessert
11:43 AM
@Fabby if you format you code by indenting it, html tags like <b> are not interpreted, if you use <pre><code> instead <b> works as expected – I suppose you wanted to print those lines bold?
 
Fabby
Fabby
Yeah, and they did...
yours just came in a box whereas mine just came in courier with a gray background.
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby Wait, are we talking about the second revision here?
 
Fabby
Fabby
yup.
can't see what you did there...
I knew I had to use <pre><code>
but what did you change between rev1 and 2?
Ah!!!
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby I just changed </pre/ to </pre> there.
 
Fabby
Fabby
I forgot to close the pre!!!
 
dessert
dessert
11:47 AM
That was a typo I suppose?
 
Fabby
Fabby
Yup it was...
Thanks for that...
And now w thought @Videonauth a new trick as well: bold your code...
I'm going to cook.
BRB
 
dessert
dessert
I think that's spelled “taught” ;P
 
Fabby
Fabby
Crap!
/shrug
 
Ravan
Ravan
12:12 PM
Hello @Fabby
\o/
 
Fabby
Fabby
12:25 PM
:-)
 
 
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cl-netbox
cl-netbox
3:30 PM
Hello :)
 
 
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Ask Ubuntu Meta
Ask Ubuntu Meta
5:03 PM
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Q: Can I answer bash-tagged questions with Python one-liners?

user1717828Many questions tagged with bash have accepted answers using sed, awk or common *NIX utilities. Is it OK to use Python to answer questions in the same way? In particular, I'm looking at this question that wants to randomly bring lines from one text file into another. I first thought of doing so...

discussion
 
Byte Commander
Byte Commander
5:23 PM
 
 
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dessert
dessert
8:20 PM
Does anybody know what Remind does when a reminder is due when the computer is off? ;P
 
Fabby
Fabby
Going solely on my 35+ years of experience with computers: it won't do anything.
(Haven't tried; but when the computer is off, it isn't doing anything; YMMV when it's in sleep mode though...)
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby That's what I thought, but what will happen when the computer is on/awake again?
I don't really want my computer to wake himself unless I explicitely told him to do that, after all. ;P
 
Fabby
Fabby
Depending whether the software uses == or <= it'll flag old reminders or not
I'd have to go read the source.
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby Don't do that, I'll just try in the next days and see what happens. :)
Worked with at that way.
 
Fabby
Fabby
If it's well-written software, it should...
I mean: that's one of the things you learn in primary school, right?
/shrug But I refer the right not to be disappointed if it's utter stupid software...
On average, people are dumb!
 
Ask Ubuntu Meta
Ask Ubuntu Meta
8:41 PM
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Q: Thank You Everyone

Kat Judging people's questions and dismissing them as "duplicative" fails to help anyone (except the egos of those passing judgment). If multiple people are asking the same question, how about posting the answer IN PLAIN ENGLISH (and Spanish) and then PROVIDING A LINK to the information? That way, ...

discussion
 
Fabby
Fabby
8:52 PM
Hah! and on-cue a dumb question shows up----^
 
dessert
dessert
It's not even a question IIRTCAANMT (if I read that correctly and are not mistaken there)
@Fabby “on cue” – one can really learn English from you!
 
Fabby
Fabby
@dessert What's your native language?
on-cue would be British English; but I've noticed Amrerican English drops a lot of the dashes.
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby German
 
Fabby
Fabby
That's only my fourth or fifth depending on how you count...
Now I also get the joke from earlier today...
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby my dictionary knows only “on cue”, but then again it's not the best…
 
Fabby
Fabby
9:03 PM
(As I live in Germany; but am not German, I completely misinterpreted the arm joke)
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby Interesting, what did you think I meant?
 
Fabby
Fabby
I thought you were not German, maybe knew from some other people I live in Germany, assume I was German and that it might be offensive to me.
I was born in a country where the Nazi-salute can be insulting, but is not forbidden by law...
 
dessert
dessert
from a linguistical point of view, English and German are just two West Germanic dialects – they are not really different enough to count as separate languages, although the distinction between a dialect and a language is not an easy one.
 
Fabby
Fabby
There are multiple opinions on what consitutes a language.
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby While doing a student exchange year in Brazil I was greeted that way in school.
 
Fabby
Fabby
9:08 PM
English used to be a germanic language, but has lots of French, Danish, ... infuences.
Wow! Apparently they had no clue...
Did you tell them when you left that solute is forbidden by law in Germany?
SMOKE! BRB...
Back.
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
Good evening!
 
Fabby
Fabby
Hi David, you're looking sexy tonight!
:D ;-) :D
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
@Fabby No boat sex unless you're the King in the North though.^^
 
Fabby
Fabby
:/ Sorry, I don't get it...
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
…in relation to my current "hat".
 
Fabby
Fabby
9:23 PM
watching....
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
Of course there's an article on Know Your Meme… :-|
 
Fabby
Fabby
I suppose I should have watched game of thrones to grok it.
I'm more of a space Opera buff instead of a Fantasy buff.
/shrug
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
Aren't space operas pretty much fantasy, just set in a future-y universe?
I mean, Jedi and Sith are nothing short of space wizards and the story telling of the original Star Wars trilogy resembles that of fairy tales.
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby I told them directly that I don't really enjoyed it. I don't think banning things like that is the way to go though.
 
Fabby
Fabby
Yes, that one is. Starship Troopers and Blade Runner aren't...
@dessert I had a Jewish-American colleague who was actually afraid to travel to Germany for a project.
After I burst out laughing so hard I nearly wet my pants and told him "Germany is probably the safest country on the entire planet to be a Jew", he took the first flight out...
... say someone who has had a copy of "Mein Kampf" on his PC somewhere before it came off the blacklist ...
 
dessert
dessert
9:34 PM
@Fabby today's racism is merely directed against Muslims, especially in times of the “wave of refugees” – Jews are so last century! ;P
 
Fabby
Fabby
(I never finished reading it: it's utterly boring and provides no historical perspective for what happened)
@dessert There are no easy answers to complex problems.
Racism is not a disease IMHO. it's just a symptom of the underlying disease: misunderstanding.
2
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby I know, it's just awful! :D
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
@Fabby It was still legal to own, just illegal to distribute.
 
Fabby
Fabby
@DavidFoerster Oh? It was? I didn't know and downloaded it in a country where it's not on the blacklist)...
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
10:04 PM
It was and still is the same with media that incite hate, glorify anti-constitutional ideologies or carry symbols of groups with such ideologies (including most Nazi and Wehrmacht "memorabilia").
The law doesn't care if you keep that stuff at home or even show it to people in a private setting. Just don't pass it around. Exceptions for criminal prosecution, teaching, research and art exist of course.
 
Fabby
Fabby
My grandmother was given a Wehrmacht insignia for "being a good citizen" while my grandfather was being kept at Büchenwald...
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
Maybe she was rewarded for divorcing a spouse deemed subhuman or otherwise unworthy.
 
Fabby
Fabby
She kept it because she felt sorry for the soldier who gave it to her...
They never divorced AFAIK.
One of my dad's friends was sent to the Hitlerjugend "to toughen up and learn some discipline"...
(he was 10 or so at the time)
shit happens...
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
Well, the HJ certainly should have helped with that.
 
Fabby
Fabby
>:-) >:-) >:-)
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
10:10 PM
My grandfather was pressured to join and did join Hitlerjugend in his mid-teens before he was drafted into the Wehrmacht as a young adult.
 
Fabby
Fabby
Yup: shit happens...
The most interesting piece of literature I ever read (was forced to read in school) was the diary of a girl in the Bund Deutscher Mädel and it shows how the entire society was corrupted bit by small bit and if you weµre a follower and did not resist, you just slid into Nazi belief.
(one of the things that changed my life around: from that moment on, I became extremely sceptical of everything government and media)
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
He was Sudeten German living in Czechoslovakia who harboured much support for Hitler and his plans to "bring Germans [living in other European nations] back into the Reich" because they were generally underprivileged.
("who" = his ethnic group, not him specifically)
As far as I know he didn't think much of all that "hysteria" but, at that age, had no strong opinion or conviction to the contrary as did his parents.
 
Seth
Seth
@ByteCommander around?
 
Fabby
Fabby
yeah, the Versailles treaty was the single most important reason for WWIII
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
@Fabby: He said, his favourite memory of the war was after he deserted around a week before the official capitulation when the remaining Wehrmacht in is area was to preoccupied to search and punish deserters, and he woke to find that the soft thing that he chose as his headrest in the dark of the previous evening turned out to be a sizeable block of cheese.
 
Byte Commander
Byte Commander
10:21 PM
@Seth depends on whether you have something good or bad for me...
 
Seth
Seth
@ByteCommander I'm sorry... discord
 
Fabby
Fabby
@DavidFoerster :D :D :D
 
dessert
dessert
In man yad I read the phrase “multiply times” a lot. Is this proper English? I expected “multiple times” there…
 
Byte Commander
Byte Commander
I'd also like to be able to multiply my times...
seems like a useful tool
 
dessert
dessert
@ByteCommander well it doesn't have an option --multiply-times unfortunately
 
Fabby
Fabby
10:43 PM
@dessert probably a search-and-replace error...
file a bug...
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby bugs.launchpad.net is the place to report a thing like that, isn't it?
 
Fabby
Fabby
looks Russian to me, so they might be unaware.
 
dessert
dessert
@Fabby thanks, already digging through the existing issues…
 
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
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Q: Try various host suffixes when connecting via SSH

Connor BellWhen connecting to a host via SSH, I'd like to be able to simply type ssh hostname to connect. However, the setup we have currently means that I must type a fairly long suffix to connect, similar to hostname.hosts.companyname.com. Is it possible to set up SSH to cycle through several hostnames ...

ubuntu ssh
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
11:02 PM
@Fabby:
 
Fabby
Fabby
Let me find the best I ever saw...
 
Byte Commander
Byte Commander
Erm... WTF did I just walk in onto again?
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
@ByteCommander Did you never see The Producers? You're in for a treat…
 
Byte Commander
Byte Commander
apparently not
 
Fabby
Fabby
This one is a good one as well:
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
11:10 PM
@ByteCommander: ^
 
Byte Commander
Byte Commander
Does that blonde guy only look like John Barrowman or is it him?
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
@ByteCommander imdb.com/name/nm0057882 Ctrl+F "Producers" → indeed
 
Byte Commander
Byte Commander
Hah, cool :D
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
@ByteCommander: "Springtime for Hitler" is a musical production inside the musical "The Producers" by Mel Brooks (that was later turned into a screenplay). It's a good watch if you're looking for some light hearted yet intelligent comedy.
 
Byte Commander
Byte Commander
Too long for this evening (damn, morning already), but if I don't forget it I'll watch it eventually...
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
11:22 PM
I only watched the 2005 film production, so I can't tell if it's any better/worse/different than the production from the 80s.
 
Byte Commander
Byte Commander
"Bedtime for Bytey" is now playing. :P
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
^^
 
Seth
Seth
@DavidFoerster blocked in the US xD
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
@Seth youtube.com/search?q=springtime+for+hitler+producers should find something equivalent that works in your country.
 
dessert
dessert
@Seth Really? xD
 
David Foerster
David Foerster
11:30 PM
It should actually be more difficult to find it on Youtube in Germany because people tend to flag it as Nazi propaganda which is illegal there. And we all know that Youtube doesn't care jack s**t about groundless flags as long as they don't risk repercussions.
How to implement a decidable problem with a non-decidable algorithm: reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/5ylndv/…
 

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