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5:49 AM
@DavidCarlisle ERESIA!
 
 
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7:34 AM
@CarLaTeX Volete una fetta per colazione?
 
@DavidCarlisle Gli italiani non mangiano la pizza a colazione :P
 
@CarLaTeX Suppongo che tu abbia dell'alfabeto spaghetti al forno su pane tostato?
 
@DavidCarlisle alfabeto spaghetti makes no sense in Italian, Google Translator strikes back :):):)
 
@CarLaTeX if you translate it back in to English it came out as "Spaghetti Spaghetti" I suppose because a tin of Alphabet Spaghetti is the default form.
 
@DavidCarlisle A tin of spaghetti OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
7:42 AM
 
@DavidCarlisle ERESIA!!!
 
@CarLaTeX it ends in a vowel, must be genuine Italian
 
@CarLaTeX is it wrong to point new users to the duckboat? I couldn't help myself
 
@DavidCarlisle Tin spaghetti can never be genuine Italian :P
@AGoldMan It's right! I did it for that purpose!
 
@CarLaTeX for the real authentic Italian experience you can have tinned spaghetti on pizza (I knew google would not let me down!!)
 
7:49 AM
@DavidCarlisle I'm going to be sick :):):)
 
8:28 AM
@CarLaTeX I just don't know if new people would be able to handle the sheer amount of pineapple pizza there
 
8:44 AM
@AGoldMan LOL, tell them to read only section 3 ;)
 
@AGoldMan Good times when the main subject here was cricket.
@DavidCarlisle ^^ how is ashes going, by the way? :)
 
@PauloCereda fairly even first day
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh
 
9:41 AM
@PauloCereda and still even after 2nd day it seems
 
@DavidCarlisle oh
 
9:52 AM
@DavidCarlisle “The photographs, blurry and un-retouched, caused a culinary uproar on Facebook and Twitter, with some Kiwis declaring they couldn’t vote for a prime minister who so wantonly bastardised Italian cuisine.” Well done, Newzealanders!
 
@egreg better to vote for one that leads you to economic ruin and international isolation than one who eats tinned spaghetti.
 
@DavidCarlisle Do you think Mrs. May likes that kind of “food”?
 
@egreg doesn't everyone?
 
10:08 AM
ooh we need UNO here
 
Do we like eating ducks here, or only being them?
 
Aug 4 at 19:37, by David Carlisle
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@DavidCarlisle you are mean
 
yesterday, by Paulo Cereda
@PauloCereda I am not mean. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle oi that's me for me. :)
 
10:14 AM
@AGoldMan @CarLaTeX and I had wonderful “bigoli al sugo d'anatra” when she came to visit my home town.
 
@egreg oh no
I AM FEELING OPPRESSED TODAY
 
@PauloCereda Finished your thesis?
 
@egreg oh no
/quacks in despair
 
I have a picture, but @PauloCereda will probably faint if he saw it
 
@PauloCereda Quack
 
10:22 AM
@JosephWright Quack
 
1054
Q: Why does man print "gimme gimme gimme" at 00:30?

Jaroslav KuceraWe've noticed that some of our automatic tests fail when they run at 00:30 but work fine the rest of the day. They fail with the message "gimme gimme gimme" in stderr, which wasn't expected. Why are we getting this output?

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@PauloCereda You got mail, perhaps it lighten your heart a bit ;-)
 
@UlrikeFischer you too. :)
 
@PauloCereda perfect ;-)
 
@UlrikeFischer we ducks are efficient. :)
 
10:37 AM
@PauloCereda efficiently turning scraps in to food
 
@DavidCarlisle oh
 
 
@egreg LOL
Wir sind piraten
 
10:54 AM
@egreg ABBA one of your usual listening choices?
 
@DavidCarlisle No, there's no reversed B in Unicode, so the name is always wrong.
 
@DavidCarlisle mamma mia, here we go again
/ba dum tss
 
@PauloCereda My my!
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh
 
yo'
@PauloCereda just how much I've messed you
 
11:06 AM
@yo' ooh now I know the TUG 2018 playlist :)
 
yo'
@PauloCereda AABBA: Alternative ABBA
 
@yo' :)
 
yo'
A limerick is a form of poetry, often humorous and sometimes obscene, in five-line, predominantly anapestic meter with a strict rhyme scheme of AABBA, in which the first, second and fifth line rhyme, while the third and fourth lines are shorter and share a different rhyme. The following example is a limerick of unknown origin: The form appeared in England in the early years of the 18th century. It was popularized by Edward Lear in the 19th century, although he did not use the term. Gershon Legman, who compiled the largest and most scholarly anthology, held that the true limerick as a folk form...
 
Oh, "good" swedish music :D
 
@mickep I heard we should never annoy the Swedes.
@yo' ooh
 
11:12 AM
@PauloCereda Hehe, that is probably true.
 
@mickep :)
@CarLaTeX, @egreg, @DavidCarlisle ^^
 
yo'
@PauloCereda your nation did not participate in the 30-year war, did it?
 
@yo' I don't think so.
 
@HenriMenke Still there, do you mind checking the following code quickly before I send to the list? I cannot see why this does not work anymore:
\definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
\definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math][range=uppercasedoublestruck,force=yes]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [Neo Euler]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,rm,12pt]
\starttext
Hello $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb C$
\stoptext
The Cs are not doublestruck. I'm pretty sure this code used to work.
 
@egreg for your listening pleasure: A𐐒BA
 
11:36 AM
@DavidCarlisle No, that's Deseret. 😛
@PauloCereda Like “Celeste Aida, forma divina, mistico serto di rose e fior”?
 
@egreg ooh Joe Green
 
@PauloCereda Or Joseph Grün
 
@egreg ooh Joseph Wright
 
11:52 AM
@egreg I have it on good authority that That is as authentic a B as the Я in Toys Я us
 
12:14 PM
@HenriMenke I sent a mail to the list. I'll see if there will be an answer.
 
12:38 PM
@barbarabeeton: Happy belated Thanksgiving!
Thankfully it's turkey and not duck. :)
 
@PauloCereda You are mean to turkeys.
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen oh I like turkeys. :) However, ostriches are evil.
PURE EVIL I SAY
 
12:51 PM
@PauloCereda -- actually, we had bison and wapiti. very tasty. and there's snow on the ground this morning. (thanks for the good wishes. it was a very nice thanksgiving escape here in quebec.)
 
1:03 PM
Setting up a new VM plus Win10 Linux subsystem :)
 
@PauloCereda thanks for the thanks
(this could go on forever)
 
Have got Linux subsystem running LaTeX3 tests: a few teething issues, but then success :)
@DavidCarlisle ^^^
 
@barbarabeeton don't you have to celebrate a different weekend if you are in Canada?
@JosephWright the linux system of choice:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle -- of course, but we were escaping, so we could be thankful all the same.
 
@barbarabeeton @JosephWright and I, being English, are thankful all the time, so don't need a special weekend.
 
1:15 PM
@DavidCarlisle I've been updating my VM to Ubuntu 14.04 TLS (to match Travis-CI), and it seemed like a good opportunity to try out the alternative approach
 
hello can anybody help me some LaTeX issue i'm stuck with ?
 
@maimslap Possibly :)
 
@JosephWright boo
@DavidCarlisle GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
 
@PauloCereda I did consider trying their SuSE version ;)
@PauloCereda Might look at a Fedora VM ...
 
1:31 PM
@JosephWright I thought you used context mostly these days
 
@JosephWright Fedora is amazing. Suse is great but you might need to set up some things later on. :)
 
@maimslap only if you say what the issue is
 
2:16 PM
@JosephWright instead of setting up lots of VMs, you can setup a single nice VM and then create a bunch of chroots with the minimum set of packages needed for testing.
 
@StrongBad Depends what you are testing ;)
@StrongBad The idea of the Ubuntu VM is it matches exactly that used by Travis-CI: I need it to track down any issues with automated testing
 
@JosephWright possibly, but the odds that it is a linux kernel conflict seems low. If there is any gui testing of latex3 then maybe issues with the X server/client could sneak in.
 
@StrongBad Certainly, but it makes most sense to just duplicate the exact set up. To date, the only issues are because we have a minimalised TeX system on the automated system: finding missing packages can be interesting!
 
anyone know of good CLI tools for Linux to manipulate with the mediabox in PDF files, tools that also maintains the xref table(s)? We experimentally noticed that there is a lower size limit when including PDF filen in InDesign, so I need to mess with some PDFs. I'd rather like to be able to keep using hires mediaboxes. The rodofobox tool works in multiples of 100, so 8.123 ends up being truncated to 8.12
 
Happy Doctor Who day!
 
3:11 PM
@PauloCereda I think you are a day late but sometimes I get confused with the wibbly-wabbly timey-wimey stuff.
 
@StrongBad ooh
 
3:27 PM
@PauloCereda you got mail.
 
yo'
4:17 PM
for __ in xrange(100) : print "I'll never ever go shopping on black friday again!"
 
4:53 PM
This is brilliant. heimanlab.com/cgi-bin/heiman
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@AlanMunn I got Rick rolled. :)
 
@PauloCereda Hmm. I don't think this counts as Rickrolling. Did you play the game?
 
@AlanMunn I tried Linux commands first. :)
 
@PauloCereda This is what happens when you grow up with video games. :)
 
@AlanMunn LOL
 
5:54 PM
@AlanMunn Best web page I've seen in ages!!
 
@mickep Isn't it! It's really clever and inventive, and such an interesting homage to the original text based adventure games.
 
6:37 PM
@PauloCereda I wrote that I would break the dish, the program was unhappy with it.
 
6:58 PM
@egreg oh no
 
Anyone know an easy way to change the paper size of a pdf file? I don't need to retypeset anything just get a figure onto an 8.5x11 piece of digital paper.
 
@StrongBad I'd try the pdftk command tool.
 
@StrongBad \pdfpagewidth=5cm
 
@UlrikeFischer that requires running latex on the source again, which I am not sure will work. I will try pdftk.
 
@StrongBad You also can use pdfpages or \includegraphics to reinclude in another paper size.
 
7:11 PM
@UlrikeFischer that is tricky. I like it.
 
yo'
7:43 PM
@StrongBad \usepackage[paperwidth=8.5in,paperheight=11in,margin=0pt]{geometry}\pagestyle{e‌​mpty} is your friend.
 
8:03 PM
@yo' I have a figure I made a while ago with the standalone package with the page size equal to the figure size. Now I want to create a regular size page with the figure centered. I do not want to regenerate the figure.
 
yo'
@StrongBad well
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[paperwidth=8.5in,paperheight=11in,margin=0pt]{geometry}
\pagestyle{e‌​mpty}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\begin{document}
\centering
\vbox{}\vfill
\includegraphics{yourfile}
\vfill\vbox{}
\end{document}
@StrongBad (pardon any typos, should there be some)
 
@yo' I was thinking there might be an easier way with ghostscript or some other pdf tool.
 
yo'
@StrongBad easy means whatever takes you the least time to use
 
8:50 PM
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@DavidCarlisle @PauloCereda as soon as I read emavs and vi I thought about you two
 
9:04 PM
@Moriambar A masterpiece!
 
new nice palindrome:
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@Kurt Congrats!
 
@Moriambar Shouldn't that be emavs and ci?
 
@StrongBad you can use pdf2pd edit the bounding box and ps2pdf if you want to use very thin wrappers around ghostscript
 
@DavidCarlisle pdf2ps unless you meant the very subtle pdf2pdf.
 
9:15 PM
@AlanMunn arg I tried to edit it but it was flashing 2 seconds left and disturbed me:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Like the new commit mails? :)
 
@JosephWright don't mind either way really
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
@DavidCarlisle Wasn't so bad to set up, once I worked out how to do a user install in my comedy user area of the various Python things it needs
@DavidCarlisle I quite like the mails to say something has happened, it can live without the diff in each one
 
@JosephWright your "comedy user area"?
 
@JosephWright Ive had no time this week but will try to sort out luatex.def this evening
@AlanMunn DANTE's server:-) (he wrote a book, you know)
 
9:19 PM
@AlanMunn Comedy is the DANTE server, which hosts amongst other things the LaTeX team SVN
@AlanMunn We are moving away from SVN but it is handy to have somewhere to put cron jobs
 
@DavidCarlisle Thanks for that information. It was divine, I hear.
@JosephWright I thought this was your sandbox for code in languages you don't like. :)
 
@JosephWright funny really when we did rely on emailed diffs to keep in sync, first thing I did was set up emacs to take the diffs and check them in to my local repository so I didn't have to read the diffs in email....
@JosephWright did you approve of comments in beamer github:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, I better sort that
@DavidCarlisle :)
@DavidCarlisle I'm not a big fan of the diffs, certainly when they get long, but Frank is (and I think Bruno too)
 
@CarLaTeX Thanks!
 
9:44 PM
@JosephWright I probably knew this at the time but I just realised you can't use dviluatex even for the simplest [dvips] style graphics inclusion as the bounding box reader doesn't work (I think I will keep the the plan of making the test log omit the error rather than make it work though:-)
 
10:09 PM
@AGoldMan It worked, the OP posted an MWE, LOL!
 
10:58 PM
Any MikTeX users around?
 
@AlanMunn yes, why?
 
@Kurt It seems that this user wants to change their texmf.cnf but MikTeX does it differently and our existing answer assumes TeX Live. tex.stackexchange.com/q/402985/2693
 
@AlanMunn although an easier answer may be to use luatex on at least the image and then include the typeset image using \includegraphics
 

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