TeX, LaTeX and Friends

user19161

12:30 AM

@GreyGeek Look through all the documentation and see which suits your needs.

Paulo Cereda

10:49 AM

Uh-oh, Wii is PowerPC, back to the TeX install. :(

Yiannis Lazarides

@Jake Thanks, this was a follow up on tex.stackexchange.com/questions/48295/…

percusse

11:20 AM

the following needs two more votes as OP agrees :

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Q: Accessing a style property in TikZ?

Let us assume I have defined the following TikZ style: \tikzset{ mystyle/.style={draw, fill=green, node distance=3mm} } and I want to draw the following picture: To draw this, I use the following code: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{tikz} \usetikzlibrary{calc, positioning} \begin{...

Stefan Kottwitz

@percusse ok, closed with votes

percusse

@StefanKottwitz thank you

percusse

11:57 AM

@StefanKottwitz I'm afraid to ask but how about this one? Should we leave it as is?

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Q: tikz blending/transparency/alpha

I have several solid/filled colored objects drawn and when they overlap I would like there colors to blend. Basically I have things that represent stuff like a warning = yellow, error = red, safe = green, etc... When these objects overlap I want there colors to represent the combined effect. Wh...

tikz-pgf graphics

seems like he found his solution with opacity

hhh

12:09 PM

How can you do the subtitle in the maketitle thing here?

There is no subtitle command...

N.N.

12:25 PM

@JosephWright I once got in contact with him via the email address listed in the biblatex manual.

lockstep

@NN With Philipp Lehman? After the release of biblatex v1.7 (November 13, 2011)?

N.N.

@lockstep Ah, no was early 2011.

Paulo Cereda

12:56 PM

@StephanLehmke: I asked an AI colleague about your question on automated newspaper layout and she suggested me this '78 paper about it: AI techniques in automatic layout design. I also agree with Yiannis that a newspaper corpora might help on training the algorithm to come up with a potential layout that's based on both position and content. :)

egreg

1:07 PM

This seems more for English.SX

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Q: Partially same authors

If I cite two works in two subsequent sentences in my document, and they have several common co-authors, but also several different ones, I might say: "Partially same authors argue in (2) that..." but is there a better and more common expression for this? Cause "partially same authors" has only 1...

citing

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Agreed. :)

lockstep

@egreg Indeed. @StefanKottwitz Request to migrate a question. :-)

@egreg This one is for you.

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Q: Editing the package

I didn't find anything about this issue, but if I missed something, please point me to it. The documentation on the ctan.org site is usually about how to use the packages in a LaTeX document, but what if I want to edit the package itself? Is there documentation available? And on a related note:...

packages

egreg

@lockstep I was already commenting on it. :)

Paulo Cereda

Everytime I read "the Ubuntu way of doing X", my brain processes "the wrong way of doing X".

Alan Munn

1:26 PM

@egreg We must have literally added our answers at the same time, since I got no notification that another answer had been added.

egreg

@AlanMunn Yea. And they say almost the same thing. :)

Alan Munn

@egreg Although in this case I'm inclined to leave them both up. This is the kind of question where converging opinions are probably helpful.

egreg

@AlanMunn I agree. They are not exactly the same. But we both emphasized "never". :)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Great minds think alike. :)

lockstep

@egreg Actually, you emphasized "Never", but provided a counter-example. ;-)

Paulo Cereda

1:36 PM

@egreg: I need to buy Pringles for tomorrow's game. :P

egreg

@lockstep It happened a couple of times: a bug in babel and in another one which I don't remember.

@PauloCereda They seem to help.

Stefan Kottwitz

@lockstep Ok, migrated!

Paulo Cereda

@lockstep egreg can edit. :)

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lockstep

@PauloCereda At least I can retag. ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@lockstep Yay! :)

lockstep

1:44 PM

Too localized, based on the OP's last comment:

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Q: Versioning LaTeX file with vrsion

as written at a stackoverflow entry, the vrsion is to be used in order to obtain version numbering. However, if I als include the package hyperref I get a lot of errors at the 2nd+ compile attempt of the latex file. Is there a workaround for this? Edit: actually, it was the babel package that ...

hyperref versions

Paulo Cereda

@lockstep Voted. :)

Stefan Kottwitz

@lockstep There could be an answer stating that there's a package loading order dependency

egreg

@StefanKottwitz That's the sense of my comment. But without a MWE it's "TL"

lockstep

@StefanKottwitz If this is only found out after a lot of effort, it might be worth the trouble. In the case at hand, closing is the better route IMO.

@StefanKottwitz OK, the OP deleted the question.

Torbjørn T.

2:13 PM

@AlanMunn Actually, you beat @egreg by 15 seconds (hover the mouser over "answered x minutes ago" to see exact time).

Martin Scharrer

I now merged the following migrated question:

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Q: "Extra }, or forgotten \endgroup" error

Don't understand why this piece won't compile fluently. TeX file as following: \begin{figure} \centering \includegraphics[width=\textwidth]{chapter2/epjb/groups_0.pdf} \caption{\label{fig:epjbgroups} Schematic diagram indicating the presence of coalescence and fragmentation processes, ...

errors braces

with:

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Q: “Extra }, or forgotten \endgroup” error modified

Don't understand why this piece won't compile fluently. TeX file as following: \begin{figure} \centering \includegraphics[width=\textwidth]{chapter2/epjb/groups_0.pdf} \caption{\label{fig:epjbgroups} Schematic diagram indicating the presence of coalescence and fragmentation processes, ...

errors braces

which originally only added a not-too Minimal WE.

Paulo Cereda

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A: Is it good practice to share your personal work after receiving the answer?

If it's just small additions to the answer, I'd consider just editing the answer that lead to your own solution and accept it. If your solution is really different from the answer that inspired it, posting your own version in addition is certainly good practice. You're adding another valid answ...

"If it's just small additions to the answer, I'd consider just editing the answer that lead to your own solution and accept it. "

I'm not sure if I understood it, but it doesn't seem right to edit the answer you accepted to include your solution.

Joseph Wright

@FrankMittelbach Intereting answer about editing packages. I have a query on this: what is the practical difference between 'maintained' and 'author-maintained'? The license has very little explicit about the latter.

Stephan Lehmke

@PauloCereda Thanks for the paper. As with Yannis, I have to disagree with the idea of a learning algorithm. II was really involved in this stuff while at university, and I never ever saw anything effectively useful turn up for this type of problem. If I start with this, I need to produce a workable solution (in the sense that the customer is sufficiently satisfied to pay for it) within an implementation time of several weeks.

Frank Mittelbach

2:29 PM

@JosephWright maintained means that it is maintained according to the LPPL idea of a "current maintainer" and the rules how that could change. It is author-maintained if the author wants to hold on to the maintenance at all costs, meaning if he vanishes nobody could take over maintenance

Joseph Wright

@FrankMittelbach That's what I thought. How does that square with the 'free software' idea?

Frank Mittelbach

@JosephWright nothing to do with it really ... you are still lowed to prodicue new derived works. the difference is that a maintainer can change/update a work directly without the normal restrictions of LPPL. e.g. I can update multicol to add a fix or an extension, but you could not without producing a dreived work

Paulo Cereda

@StephanLehmke Ah I see. To be honest, I'm a little skeptical with training sets, since one of my last attempts gave me headaches with error propagation. I'm far more inclined to a "conventional" algorithm employing some restricted heuristics. :)

Joseph Wright

@FrankMittelbach So essentially it forces a name-change?

Stephan Lehmke

@PauloCereda Full ACK. The main challenge will be to develop (together with domain experts) a good evaluation function for page candidates :-)

Paulo Cereda

2:39 PM

@StephanLehmke Indeed. :) It would be awesome. :P

What if we start to use CDL for LaTeX packages? raw.github.com/supertunaman/cdl/master/COPYING /ducks

Yiannis Lazarides

3:34 PM

@StephanLehmke Thanks for the answer.

@StephanLehmke On your newspaper question, how do you propose to capture the data? What sort of front end, markup etc?

leo

hi all

egreg

@leo How are your groups doing? :)

leo

@egreg fine by now

@egreg I put my homework in the wrong locker :-)

Stephan Lehmke

@YiannisLazarides If I already had precise plans about all this, I wouldn't have to ask in the first place ;-) But to be practicable, this would have to be a rather simple web interface allowing to input content of an artilce classified into certain categories.

Ariel

Hi, I have yet another longtable question - how do I make the longtable flow into columns rather than pages? The problem is it has been asked several times before. I have tried most of the solutions and none of them really work out very well. One suggests using supertabular with \twocolumn but that doesn't support multicolumn headings and processing stops. Another suggests tabbing - but that throws multiple errors. Do you think I should post this question again?

This is example of the exact question I would like to ask: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/23488/… but the solutions don't work for me. :(

Frank Mittelbach

3:47 PM

@JosephWright it doesn't "force" it but it is the best option really without compromising either compatibility for older documents or general issues with the fact that people think they talk about the same but really don't

Joseph Wright

@FrankMittelbach So that does contrast with just 'maintained', where as you can take over maintainence it's reasonable to retain the same name

Yiannis Lazarides

@StephanLehmke Thanks. I like the idea of a web interface. I was rethinking the points you raised. Given current tools actually is easier to automate it via the web. Still not too sure about an algorithm. Calculating a fitness is fine if you have a notion of idea page.

Frank Mittelbach

@JosephWright nothing really. we promote that people use the maintained status as that avoid the situation that we saw in the past where people vanished for one reason or the other. But we didn't want to force it on authors if they otherwise like to use LPPL which is why there is also author-maintained

But on the whole we expect in the TeX world that people care about document exchange and that a maintainer is not killing it with incompatibel changes extensions. Which is what usually is looked after, eg sometimes maintainers change package names just for that reason rather than just updating things.

Stephan Lehmke

@YiannisLazarides Sorry if this is a dumb question but I wonder whether theres anything in particular I need to do to get the bounty for the pullquote question :-)

Joseph Wright

@FrankMittelbach I'm still not clear on this. If a package is 'maintained', I can post to c.t.t, giving 6 months notice of a take-over and become the maintainer, releasing updated code with the same name. If the package is 'author-maintained', I cannot become the maintainer, so can I simply pick up a package to create a 'derived work' with the same name or do I have to use a different name?

Yiannis Lazarides

4:02 PM

@StephanLehmke I think it has a 23 hrs grace period and then you get it automatically.

Stephan Lehmke

@YiannisLazarides Ah, understood. THanks.

David Carlisle

4:26 PM

@Ariel in case the others are wondering... you opened up another room for thi sqn

Paulo Cereda

5:10 PM

@egreg: Catania 0:1 Milan. :(

egreg

@PauloCereda 1:1

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Yay! Go Catania! :)

I saw someone in the crowd with a Juve uniform. :P

leo

What package use \toprule and \midrule

Alan Munn

@Ariel The most complete answer to the general problem seems to be here: tex.stackexchange.com/q/13895/2693 If that doesn't do what you want, then you could make a new question (perhaps based on that) and explain exactly what it is you need to do differently.

Joseph Wright

@leo Defined by booktabs

leo

5:20 PM

@JosephWright thanks

Alan Munn

@JosephWright My understanding is that you have to use a different name. But I'm no licence expert.

Joseph Wright

@AlanMunn Neither am I: Frank will probably deny being one either, but he knows more than I do

Paulo Cereda

I'd love to learn more about this license.

Alan Munn

@PauloCereda Masochist.

Paulo Cereda

@AlanMunn Nah, I was when I tried to understand GPL. :P Personally, it's far more sporting if we adhere to the CDL instead. :)

Joseph Wright

5:28 PM

@PauloCereda I'm not sure 'love' is my take on this, but 'am interested' might cover it

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright TBH 'love' is a strong word. I meant it's quite vital for us to understand the process. :)

leo

what packages are needed the in the preamble in order to succes with excel2latex?

Alan Munn

@JosephWright Now looking back and reading clause 6 of the licence I have absolutely no idea of what that actually means.

Paulo Cereda

Nostalgia: I found a series of videos in YouTube with some funny moments of the best TV cat ever. :)

yesterday, by Paulo Cereda

Friends, the next Answer the Unanswered session is scheduled for the next Saturday - which is the Easter Eve. Should we keep the event to that date or postpone it to the next week?

@egreg: sadly, Milan seems to have easier games than Juve from now on. :(

egreg

5:59 PM

@PauloCereda We've seen what happens with "easier games": draws. :)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Ah true. :)

And last game is Milan vs. Inter, I guess. :)

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