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8:00 PM

I play pubg in hopes to get a skirt and sell it

I love that the interview this quote comes from has the creator saying that he wants PUBG becoming an esport "organically through the community". But Bluehole is setting up these tournaments themselves while a very sizable part of the community absolutely does not think the game is ready for esports at all.

Wasn't it aiming to get out of early access this november?

With the bugs and stability issues it's been having, it's nowhere near ready.

And also the promises (like vaulting)

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Q: One-wide swap red stone wires vertically?

I have two wires running one above the other: How can I "swap" them? So that, the input of the lower wire one is reflected in the output of the top wire and vice versa? I can't come up with anything that doesn't interact with a duplicated version of itself two blocks to the side.

minecraft minecraft-redstone

8:14 PM

Also PUBG has way too big games to be an esport. Organizing 100 players a match will be a nightmare

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Oh I never validated shirts

so that might need to be modabused

@quartata Also, how do you even build a tournament out of that?

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@Unionhawk I can fix it if needed at whatever point

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8:15 PM

Augh they're doing Neopets Darkest Faerie when I am at work :(

@Yuuki 50vs50?? I dunno

IIRC, I had a Faerie paintbrush on my Neopets account way back when.

Maybe it's just one match

Then it'd be just generic knockout with small parties of 4-5 or whatever

Either way it's silly

x minutes of matches (idk how long a match is), points by place

Games that are designed to be fun and casual shouldn't then be crammed down the esports scene's throats

@Unionhawk but no one can actually be eliminated between matches

8:18 PM

Idk, it's a 100 player game, what do you want, 4 groups of 100

PUBG is played solo, pairs, or squad of four.

Or three if you can't wrangle a fourth person.

If they did more aggressive map limiting they could shrink it down to a 4v4 maybe

But I think an 8v8 or 12v12 would be more fun -- each team has more than one squad

The whole thing about PUBG is that there's more than two teams fighting.

TETRIS: ESPORTS EDITION

Otherwise, you might as well play Counterstrike.

8:22 PM

@MadMAxJr There are tetris competitions

@MadMAxJr haha jokes on you

TGM is a thing

speaking of which

new pb on tgm~

@Yuuki I think the idea of a giant Counter-Strike map with supplies is cool

Oh yeah a 50v50 would just get too chaotic

That would be extremely unfun to watch

I mean, PUBG is a problematic esport for other things.

50v50 but YOU DONT KNOW WHICH TEAM YOU ARE PART OF

8:24 PM

People are still annoyed that critical hits are a thing in LoL and DOTA.

Also PUBG will be a nuisance to cast

Yes

Randomized drops and air supplies?

I mean

Not all games can be counterstrike

Get ready for endless rants.

8:25 PM

with its literal determinate spread patterns

@Yuuki DOTA's "RNG" isn't actually uniformly random

@Yuuki Which people? I haven't heard of that in years

@Unionhawk I mean that's a lovely feature

because I can just macro the spread pattern

well, actual macro or muscle-memory-macro.

dota2.gamepedia.com/Random_distribution

There are card counters out there, its entirely possible that someone can count hits on dota and say if it will be a crit or not

8:27 PM

@quartata Neither is LoL's.

Yeah I assume it works the same as dota 1

@Avery Right, that's why it's a thing: it makes even spray skill based

It's a game with an extremely high skill ceiling

No one can really complain about RNGesus in Dota because it's on average periodic in nature

@DanmakuGrazer It's not a seasonal top post, but every time the meta shifts towards ADCs (particularly the crit-based ADCs like Tristana or Caitlyn), the RNG complaints pop up.

and actual random spread would lower it

8:28 PM

@Unionhawk the patterns in 1.5 is extremely terrible

@Yuuki Guess it's just a LoL thing

osfrog is a verry gud game person

@Unionhawk Are you expected to just sit in a empty map and spray at the wall until you can control the pattern perfectly?

@Yuuki Yes. It's not that hard.

@Yuuki well no

8:30 PM

Perfection is optional anyways

@Yuuki there are literal maps designed for this purpose

There are people that can easily control the spray

but yeah good enough is usually good enough

You can be more than decent just by slowly dragging your mouse down

@quartata depending but for most yeah

or is that just AK I don't actually know

AK is the only pattern I even kind of know

8:31 PM

If you have to fire enough AK shots so that the spiral comes into play you're basically dead anyways

prob

Hmm... are there any noob trap guns in Counterstrike?

I mean

Five Seven

@Yuuki wdym

8:32 PM

Kappa

Shotguns are situational for example

poor armor performance I think?

shotguns, most smgs, heavy guns (negev and the other thing), dual berettas are weak weapons

there's probs more but I can't remember anything else

But they're good in some situations

well except heavy guns

and dual berettas

well yes

so just shotguns and smgs on rounds you know they won't or can't buy stuff especially early game

8:34 PM

when you're low on money shotguns and smgs aren't terrible

oh and auto sniper.

Has anyone successful used the taser gun in professional play?

It's a good weapon but oh boy are you going to get spammed with "auto noob" for that

I think so

It's probably banned in some leagues

idk

I feel like I've seen a taser clip before

it's one of those things that works about as often as a backstab works

@Unionhawk wiki doesn't say anything about that

@Avery maybe not then idk

8:37 PM

it's not really useful.

remember when the r8 was introduced

holy shit

an 8 shot revolver that does awp damage except it's too expensive for first round but it's still very cheap

who decided that was a good idea, valve?

Yeah, I heard about that.

Made the front page, IIRC.

r8 was real op on early days

That got banned like immediately and I don't even know if it's even in the game still

and that one weapon that I forgot the name of uuh

8:39 PM

and if it is it's probably bad for the price

tec9

@Avery cz75 was very good before

oh

@Unionhawk yeah it was

yeah tec9 has been OP

I assume or hope it's been nerfed but idk

basically here's how csgo works: 1) add op weapon 2) get hate 3) nerf the weapon after major leagues 4) goto 1

@Unionhawk It got nerfed yeah

8:40 PM

Yeah, tec9 crews were pretty common this last season of ESL etc

I had played a lot of CS:S before, so imagine my surprise when the week I tried GO Valve added an autoshooting Scout for $850

Autoshooting Scout?

R8

It's got very good wall penetration so I've seen people just spam walls and get kills

ah

8:41 PM

oh

heh

not the same gun

R8 is really a pain to use tbh.

at all

having to hold for a sec before firing is terrible

That's what n0thing called it

ALSO

8:41 PM

Oh it does the battlefield 4 revolver thing?

that's lame

Just cashing in on a dead meme

CSGO spray patterns aren't all pre-determined.

is like, negev random?

there's some element of randomness but it's tiny and it only applies to a pre-determined pattern

ah

it varies around a line, that makes sense

tbh if you can't one tap people all the time you should just uninstall the game like I did

8:43 PM

So slowly dragging weapon down and swinging it around while spraying is still a good strat.

Though you are better off not spraying

Bursting is soo much easier in CS:S

The simple joy of the pistol round.

Less recoil on that initial shot I think is why

GO feels really weird in comparison

> One deag *miss*
> One deag *miss*
> One dead *miss*

@MadMAxJr honestly I love pistol rounds

the only real gun I don't suck at is p250

and fiveseven, sometimes.

I'm not terrible with ak47 pattern but m4 is a pain

8:48 PM

twitch.tv/djsmiley2k

plz send help

I was big on CS 1.6 for a while.

I played a ton of 1.6 and 1.5 and hl and sauerbraten in last 2 days

1.6 is still super popular

basically my current school didn't allocate us a classroom.

We're on computer lab.

Go figure.

lol

8:50 PM

so yes we had huge lan parties in last 2 days

And I apparently suck on all shooters

except maybe sauerbraten.

unrelated, yet terrible:

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> Use git like dropbox!

puts github octocat

you should play some ricochet next time

@quartata jokes on you we have that.

but we'll probably play UT or quake on monday.

I wasn't kidding

I own it and like it

@Avery I mean you can use git as a file backup system but github won't like it.

HLDM is kinda weird in that whoever is the best at bunny hopping automatically wins

8:54 PM

also I'm not sure which map we're playing on but uh

it's the one with the nuke.

Kind of a product of the map design, AOE weapons being rare and boosting with nades or gauss being easy

Now, school pcs don't have speakers and headphone jacks are broken.

That's crossfire

So activating the nuke is banned.

But people randomly do it (I may have done it once or twice, though nearly everyone did it at least once) and it's kinda annoying, but it's really fun do watch people's reactions

UT. Convoy map. <3

Redeemer is for when you're really bored on Facing Worlds.

My server used the Dr.Strangelove mutator, which made you ride the redeemer.

8:57 PM

nothing ? :(

@Avery oof no sound :(

HL and Quake are insanely hard without sound for me

Well, I don't normally watch streams and I'm at work anyways.

@djsmiley2k yeah i got busted for watching too many RIP @twobugs streams at work

lol

I'm not watching too many streams lately, and have some relationship stuff i need to sort etc. Sorry @djsmiley2k

9:03 PM

lol this game is actually broken

you've litterally got to defend every other turn

ugh, neighbor is singing on the room that's on the other side of the wall

no sound isolation so double ugh

@djsmiley2k what game is this?

child of light

@djsmiley2k never heard of it

Does chat miss any messages randomly for anyone else?

9:13 PM

@Avery nope.

well, not that I know of :/

it didn't show the "child of light" message from djsmiley, and had other tiny issues with missing random messages in the past

@Avery even after refresh?

turkish hax?

@GodEmperorDune No, refresh shows it

i get weird network timeouts sometimes but refresh usually loads everything

9:14 PM

I never finished Child of Light. Has some fun gameplay.

Refreshing loads messages like the transcript does basically

@quartata yes I know

Subsequent messages come from the websocket or polling both of which can fail if your network sucks

So makes sense

@djsmiley2k I don't remember needing to defend every other turn.

I'm not entirely sure on the circumstances in which it'll use polling, I'm not sure it's just a browser support thing

9:17 PM

ACCIDENTALLY PASTED THIS INTO AN EMAIL INSTEAD OF MY E-SIGNATURE, AND IN MY PANIC TO DELETE IT MANAGED TO SEND IT. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

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Would have to ask ArtOfCode

On the other hand, at least you're using the defend action. I don't recall ever needing it in some Final Fantasy games.

@Avery I'm lollllloing

@Avery That happened

I've had worse stuff slip through

like "exde" (a variation of typing "xd") on an assignment.

This is why you don't work on school assignments when high on coffee in 4am and ESPECIALLY while feeling memey

9:23 PM

@Avery they're good assignments, fom

Of course this is a thing Rockstar did.

@Yuuki I mean realisticity or smth

@Yuuki gotta focus on the most important details

Firefox has encountered a bug.

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9:39 PM

@Yuuki cc @ash for cutesy stuffsies

It's an older gif sir, but it checks out.

9:57 PM

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Q: Is it possible to apply an FMJ or Extended Mag variant in the Zombies gamemode?

I play zombies a lot, and have at least the Extended Mag variant for the 48 Dredge. I know I am able to apply variants for the attachments in Weapon Kits, but what about FMJ and Extended Mag? I could have sworn I watched a video of someone who had the variant of the Extended Mag or FMJ attachment...

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Wheee. Just got home from a company dinner.

It's midnight.

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Okay can I just say, as I get caught up on my pings, that I love love love you guys

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like seriously

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every time I feel even a little sad someone has a cute thing for me

unrelated: I got a pyramid scheme ad on youtube

10:11 PM

PATRICK I WILL CHANGE THE PASSWORD IF YOU DO THAT ONE MORE TIME

Tweeted by waypoint on September 29, 2017 at 9:04 PM

Waypoint is the only good video game news Twitter

@Unionhawk They have some of the better videogame journalists/wrestlers as well.

@RedRiderX vice is the new way better Gawker network

@Unionhawk twitter dot com slash jimsterling is quite nice too

@Unionhawk It also has its own shady internal business practices

Slightly old but discusses some vice things

10:30 PM

got to number 3 without killing anyone lol

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bridge memes are taking over discord too

soon every day will be friday

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Just noticed I have this banner

@RedRiderX yeah vice is kinda fuct

10:48 PM

@cazc_941 I wouldn't say that either

Some good journalism has come out of there.

Well yeah

They're just... Weird

But they are a big big media company now and they've inherited a weird company culture.

@Unionhawk Gamasutra?

@RedRiderX as long as it's not destroyed by Peter Thiel ehhh tbh

@Unionhawk Right well it seems vice is less interested in outing powerful business people.

So they're probably safe

10:50 PM

I think they're unionized too?

Yeah there was a recent push for that

I guess if you're in a union you can get fired because your boss made you a drug mule.

"Allegedly"

If you wanted to read more about that weird story

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Okay @GodEmperorDune I know you don't super read but seriously if you decide you need a book to read, A Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet is an EXCELLENT CHOICE

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(okay I just need more people to read it so I can yell about it let's be honest here)

That isn't exactly the way to go about this. Your edit has, for all intents and purposes, changed the base question that the OP asked, which is exactly what edits are supposed to avoid doing. — Fluttershy 24 secs ago

Thoughts on this, anyone?

@Ash yeah I put it on my goodreads

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10:58 PM

@GodEmperorDune grins that's why I am mentioning it

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Because hooooly shit it might be the best book I have read all yeeeear

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(Tied with the sequel, A Close and Common Orbit)

@Fluttershy i dont know the whole circumstances behind the post, but if they did change the base question, your comment is on point

@Fluttershy this doesn't go anywhere for me in the app, so I can't see context... Goes to someone else's comment?

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@cazc_941 It goes to a meta answer

11:03 PM

@Chippies Use Microsoft.skypeapp instead of skypeapp.

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A: Should this question about colors depicting game item rarity have been re-opened?

For full transparency: I've started and stopped putting an answer here a few times about potential edits to the question to make it on-topic. I ended up requesting clarification on the question (in comments) about the intent of this meta question, and received a response that it was focused on th...

@Yuuki is this that win10 cleanup thing?

Yeah.

i was thinking of running it

but i saw it removes photos and i actually do use photos

@GodEmperorDune omit that line?

11:05 PM

@Avery i'm concerned about tracking down dependencies that i don't have time to fiddle with

@Ash that is a weird bug though

Might be related to the move from meta.gaming to gaming.meta?

plus my computer is beefy enough that win10 doesn't annoy me

user15026

Awww man it's been long enough since I've played KoL that it's offering me the chance to start my run over

@Ash waaaaaaaaat

i guess i need to start reminding you more often

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Work has been explosionary

11:07 PM

:(

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Like this is the first time in...wow, a month and 5 days that I've felt like I could breathe at work

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(we've been shorthanded for that long, it will continue indefinitely)

too bad i used my :( already

it's on cooldown

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(also, wow, it's been almost 5 weeks since my manager went on leave. Sometimes it feels like forever, sometimes it feels like he just left...it's going to be quite strange when/if he comes back)

5 weeks...

Are you sure he didn't just leave?

As in, "peace out, I'm done"?

11:12 PM

@Yuuki canadians get good vacation plans, it seems

@Ash, adopt me so I can get a Canadian citizenship.

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@GodEmperorDune oh, this is not a vacation

"Administrative" leave?

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@Yuuki As far as I know, this is still extended personal leave

user15026

I've not been told otherwise

11:14 PM

:/

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@Yuuki I don't think I could mentally handle two family class sponsorships at once ;)

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(Dear CBSA/CIC I am not actually considering this. I just want my actual @WorldEngineer husband.)

@Yuuki I got two weeks sick leave when I had my seizure. But then, that's sort of what medical benefits are for.

So you don't lose everything due to circumstances outside your control.

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Augh I asked Hagnk for all my things and then my KoL tab crashed

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@Frank If you get ones that allow for that sort of thing yes

11:17 PM

Little do we know, @Ash's tech support firm is actually part of a front for the Canadian Secret Service and their manager will return with a dark tan shortly before news breaks that that the body of a Middle Eastern warlord has been found in a zipped-up duffle bag with a plastic bag around his head and two gunshot wounds in the back. Authorities have ruled this a suicide.

@Ash That's true.

My workplace was really nice about the whole thing. Just let me work from home with my bum arm, as I didn't have the werewithal to actually make it into work.

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@Yuuki at first I interpreted that as him bringing the duffel to work and I was like "I think dealing with that is above my paygrade"

In unrelated news, the Prime Minister of Qatar discovers a note in his nightstand reading "Sorry, eh?".

11:37 PM

Well, it's accurate, I guess

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Every time I get to the Twin Peak quest I am like "oh this time I will take the time to do it "properly" but I suspect, as always, I will just end up burning the damn thing down

@Frank hm

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@Frank I guess at least they were honest....

@Ash That was my take.

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I just..why would you....*sigh*

11:56 PM

@Ash better than that now-mod that put racial slurs in html comments

@GodEmperorDune ...wha?

@Frank iirc it was SFF election

the person that won has a very long term ban on another site

user15026

I vaguely recall this

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Q: How do i check if a player is at specific coordinates?

How do I check if a player is at -682 4 -188?

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@GodEmperorDune I think I know who you're talking about.

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