The Nineteenth Byte

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12:08 AM

@ATaco huh?

LegionMammal978

@ASCII-only So I guess I would go "yes" because there's only two atoms and one ionic bond?

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@LegionMammal978 Yes

Law of definite proportions

In chemistry, the law of definite proportions, sometimes called Proust's law or the law of definite composition, or law of constant composition states that a given chemical compound always contains its component elements in fixed ratio (by mass) and does not depend on its source and method of preparation. An equivalent statement is the law of constant composition, which states that all samples of a given chemical compound have the same elemental composition by mass. For example, oxygen makes up about 8/9 of the mass of any sample of pure water, while hydrogen makes up the remaining 1/9 of the mass...

programmer5000

CMC: Place a bounty on a unanswered question to help clear up the unanswered list.

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@programmer5000 That isn't going to help

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12:34 AM

.-. how do you make a cyclic levenquine with no characters in common

wat

well actually it's possible

but it has to be an alternating quine for many languages D:

quartata

12:51 AM

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A: Build a working game of Tetris in Conway's Game of Life

This began as a quest but ended as an odyssey. Quest for Tetris Processor, 2,940,928 x 10,407,936 This project is the culmination of the efforts of many users over the course of the past 1 & 1/2 years. Although the composition of the team has varied over time, the participants as of writing ar...

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QFT has landed

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:O

time to start golfing :P although I'm sure everyone wants a long break first

quartata

Be sure to sort by oldest.

That's the presentation order.

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Yeah, that should be the default

ATaco

1:20 AM

HnQ when?

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@ATaco HnQ???

ATaco

Hot Network Questions

Downgoat

~~hot network questions~~ ninja

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n != Network

Downgoat

@quartata is someone else going to +500pt bounty or should I

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1:22 AM

@Downgoat but is CW, do you really want to

ATaco

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@ATaco ... but you lowercased "n", in which case it means and

ATaco

Eeeeeeh.

Downgoat

:/ I can't evently distribute bounty beacuse new one must be at least twice old one

> Input to the game is performed by manually editing the contents of RAM address 1

ATaco

Incredible work folks, I'm proud of everyone involved.

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1:24 AM

> Incredibly

@Downgoat Well I can bounty

ATaco

Blame Autocorrect

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So if we find another three people then it'll work :P

Downgoat

@ATaco tacos have hooves confirm

@ASCII-only @ATaco up for bounty?

ATaco

I'll bounty.

Downgoat

ok 2 more people

El'endia Starman

1:25 AM

@Downgoat There are a couple input boxes for that. Look for "breakpoint" after the code display.

Downgoat

oh wow just found the link very cool

El'endia Starman

...hmm, this would be a very good time to have the ability to not double subsequent bounties...

Downgoat

Am I running the Tetris correctly?

El'endia Starman

o.O Hmmm....

Oh, that's the prime-finding code.

You need to replace the QFTASM code with the provided source code for Tetris.

Downgoat

:O I replaced with the Tetris, this is really amazing

El'endia Starman

1:45 AM

Permalink for convenience: play.starmaninnovations.com/qftasm/#jllHdnBGSP

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@Downgoat get with the times i have been running it for weeks :P

quartata

@Downgoat You should

be on the look out in Pong in 6-8 years

if I did my job correctly it'll be in C++

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:D

quartata

this is the part where future me replies to this

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

I got home and sat down on the computer I pulled off my sock and it ended up with my headphone cables in the sock. What happened O_O

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1:55 AM

Time to try and port to glider gates :P

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@quartata if you get C++ working I will take it to the next level

GoL written in GoL

quartata

We already said that

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

Wat

quartata

in The Quest for Tetris, yesterday, by muddyfish

Would that be a quine?

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

:_(

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1:56 AM

That already exists

quartata

in The Quest for Tetris, 2 days ago, by quartata

2meta

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They're called metapixels

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

So sad

quartata

@ASCII-only I mean, pretty much. I think he means an interactive one though.

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

Yeah

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1:57 AM

Metapixels are interactive :P

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

Sheesh

quartata

@ASCII-only Well not in an easy way

although

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@quartata Well it's even harder in the computer atm isn't it :P

quartata

I suppose our solid state memory is in metapixels too

ATaco

I wonder if we could contact john Conway

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

1:58 AM

wtf happens if you write a quine in C++ and run it in GoL

quartata

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ Well, there's no STDIO....

El'endia Starman

@ATaco IIRC Conway is not happy with the fact that GoL is the thing most people remember him for.

Downgoat

@quartata have you tested entire Tetris in an GoL simulator yet?

quartata

yeah conway would probably not appreciate it

ATaco

He might at least be impressed by the result

quartata

2:00 AM

@Downgoat I think mego tried it and it works but you need to use Hashlife

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@quartata dang

quartata

otherwise it runs out of memory with quicklife

It's slow as hell though

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

On the website Programming Puzzles and code golf (codegolf.stackexchange.com) someone proposed creating Tetris in your game of life (Vanilla original rules) after several years of work (I did not work on it myself but did enjoy watching it get made) it has been finished, now the file is too big to be run effectively on a normal computer but here is where they are posting answers with details of how to run it and how it was done. I figured you should know since it is a large achievement for them.

I am going to send that to John Conway any advice for anything to put there?

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@Christopher2EZ4RTZ 1.5 years != several

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

Only 1.5 years? huh thought it was longer

Fixed it (one and a half)

ATaco

2:07 AM

I wanted to link Computerphile, they might be able to do a story on this.

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

nvm

mbomb007

@quartata Definitely notify the presses!

I sent a message to conwaylife.com

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@mbomb007 I sent an email to John Conway and am about to send one to Forbes get on my lvl

quartata

...

mbomb007

Maybe you should've let the people who actually created it send that?

Anonymous

2:19 AM

@Downgoat Like quartata said - I did, and it does require HashLife. Thankfully, our MacroCell file is compatible with HashLife. It's also insanely slow, even with large step sizes.

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@mbomb007 I made sure to say that I didn't do it :P and you realize how prideful it sounds if you are tooting your own horn?

ATaco

I imagine pong being both easier and harder.

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

Yeah they have the structure already

ATaco

Make a C to Cogol compiler :P

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@Christopher2EZ4RTZ well still, who said they even want to be on Forbes...

El'endia Starman

2:23 AM

@ATaco Yeah, I said to my fiancée that Pong is probably about the same complexity as Tetris, but in a different way.

mbomb007

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ says the one who just said "get on my lvl"?

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@ATaco what's the point if they're making one for C++ to Cogol

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

@mbomb007 Ok the irony burns but that was a attempt at a joke

@ASCII-only wth you are ~100 rep above me :P when did that happen

Anonymous

@ASCII-only We (and by we I mean mostly quartata but I'm jumping on the sub-project too) are working on a GCC backend for QFTASM. We'd be able to use any language that GCC supports (with caveats).

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@Mego Also this

Downgoat

2:26 AM

@Mego Wouldn't a LLVM compiler be easier? (I dunno how GCC backends work)

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@Downgoat They're basically the same

Downgoat

GCC doesn't output LLVM that's Clang you're thinking of?

Anonymous

@Downgoat According to quartata, no. LLVM backends are much more complicated and poorly documented compared to GCC.

ATaco

Can confirm, I tried reading the documentation of LLVM once.

Downgoat

@ASCII-only :O what if we compile VSL to QFTASM

> tried

it's not that bad :P

Anonymous

2:29 AM

in The Quest for Tetris, 5 hours ago, by quartata

But hey at least it has documentation unlike LLVM

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@Downgoat yes good idea

but we'd need gcc backend first

Downgoat

why would VSL use GCC backend???

Anonymous

@Downgoat VSL doesn't need a GCC backend. QFTASM does.

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@Downgoat *frontend, for qftasm

quartata

LLVM frontends are easy. LLVM backends are hell.

Downgoat

2:34 AM

but so much documentation?

quartata

Have you actually read it?

At any rate GCC dedicates multiple chapters to backends

Downgoat

in The Quest for Tetris, 5 hours ago, by quartata

But hey at least it has documentation unlike LLVM

quartata

It's hard to use but incredibly well documeted in most parts

@Downgoat That "documentation" tells you almost nothing

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

My docs are just the word "docs docs docs".toUpperCase(); over and over

Downgoat

it seems to be pretty specific

quartata

2:37 AM

No required patterns, info on base register classes, calling conventions and frame info, hooks for emitting sections or prologue/epilogue

ATaco

Still better docs than RProgN2

quartata

I know it looks thorough but it's more about how the implementation is structured and not how to do it

Downgoat

> For some targets

10/10 for being specific

they do have seperate docs though which have more specific information on the classes/function

Christopher 2EZ 4RTZ

As much as I love you guys I love sleep right now bye o/

OK Despite what I said I went to reddit and clicked the random button 20-30 times and eded back up on /r/dota :P

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4:13 AM

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ huhwhat

Pavel

Well we're not allowed to use allcaps in TNB anymore...

ATaco

It doesn't say it in Chatiquette, so as long as it's not causing anyone grief, it doesn't seem incorrect to say "DOCS DOCS DOCS".

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Yep

Also >_> do you have anything other than the word DOCS in your docs

Anonymous

4:33 AM

@Pavel You're not allowed to be obnoxious. That isn't a new rule. Repeatedly using all-caps in messages is obnoxious.

Mistah Figgins

4:53 AM

@FunkyComputerMan I see you changed your name

Funky Computer Man

@MistahFiggins Yep. Temporarily

ATaco

(It wigs me out)

Pavel

5:20 AM

(it bothers me so much)

Fatalize

6:34 AM

@LeakyNun Well yes, hence why I filed a github issue. There's no reason why it couldn't deduce it for 0.

Leaky Nun

@Fatalize alright, thanks

muddyfish

8:23 AM

And I finally woke up so I could post my part. I might have troubles with waking up at 2am :P

Ven

(what does CMC mean?)

also, Hi

Mayube

@Ven Chat Mini Challenge

Ven

@Mayube thanks!

Mayube

8:51 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing I think we should maybe give up on golfing BrainFlump's source, I'm trying to troubleshoot a bug and it's just impossible cos the code is a mess :P

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Q: Smallest Narcissistic Number

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