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12:12 AM
On second thoughts first person might be a bit hard to write it in
 
"second thoughts"
 
huh
I noticed that as well
 
Oh, if you noticed it too
I guess I was the second person
oh that didn't work as well as in my head
 
What about this? This seems good so far
For story elements, e.g 'You wake up' I write it in second person. For the log, I'll do it first person as in 'I explored'
 
@Wen1now That seems good
So log = journal, and the story is immersive (refers to you not the character)
 
12:18 AM
Yep
 
Aw, PORPOISES are filled with POISE
but not reptiles
 
@Wen1now I don't think it's that hard :P s=>s.replace(/you/gi, 'I')
But it's less effective than second person
Oh yeah, bad idea: The story is that you can control an operative :P so you can write in third person
Also other bad idea: Postfix conlang
 
There are some kinda "eh" ones there, but here are some I enjoyed:
#491
Your language consists of all rotationally symmetric IPA strings. For example, [θrɒzɑɹθ], [nbaɐqu], [ʃɴʃ], [ɛʎyɜ], [xχx], and [ʌːcɪɔːv] are valid words.
#462
Include in your conlang a Benfordian number, used in conjunction with numerals where the most significant digit is 1.
#448
Conjugate cause and effect verbs based on moral judgments:
“If you poke that mama bear, she will attack(-and-you-will-deserve-it) you.”
“If the storm gets worse, it will trigger(-a-fact-of-physics-moral-judgement-is-irrelevant) a landslide that will destroy(-and-they-won’t-deserve-it) the town.”
“If you don’t look where you’re going, you will trip(-and-you-will-kind-of-deserve-it) on the sidewalk.”
#444
Decline nouns by how many of them you can take on in a fight.
“My daughter-2.in.a.fight, did you remember to feed a goat-3.in.a.fight to the allosaurus-0.2.in.a.fight? She looks a bit hungry.”
 
that last one...
so many words would be like infinity.in.a.fight
"My sandwich-10000.in.a.fight has pickles-100000.in.a.fight and mayo-????.in.a.fight in it"
You can't even say a number of mayo
you just have to estimate how many of the object it would take to knock you over!
or something like that
 
obviously the markers would use a pseudo-logarithmic scale
 
12:31 AM
@Deusovi *0.0001.in.a.fight
Decline nouns?
 
@ASCII-only Give nouns markers to say what role they take in a sentence.
Like conjugating verbs.
 
This is a good idea, it sounds cool
 
How are those the less bad of the ideas :P
 
#295
THE INDICATIVE MOOD IS MARKED BY SHOUTING.
#290
A discourse particle that pops up a lot when haggling that is pronounced /numbəwæŋ/
 
@stacksfiller But poise != confidence
 
12:37 AM
What is the indicative mood?
discourse particle?
I am clearly quite dumb
 
these are all linguistics terms
 
the indicative is not the subjunctive or the imperative
 
indicative mood: how you say sentences that are statements (as opposed to requests, suggestions, commands, questions...)
English occasionally marks the subjunctive mood differently ("If I were you...")
discourse particle - word that doesn't necessarily have meaning by itself, but it "manages the flow of a conversation"
 
questions are also indicative, which doesn't quite make sense to me, which is why I just define it as what it's not
(it's neither a conditional nor a command)
 
examples in English are "like", "so", "I mean", "well"
 
12:40 AM
Oh, right
 
in English, yeah, questions are lumped in with indicative - we only have three moods
 
I mean well, so like me
interesting that they all have meanings on their own
the only words i can think of that don't have any meaning on their own are "uh" and "um"
 
I believe those have meaning
 
yeah i mean they often do have the meaning of "i'm not done talking hold on while i finish my thought"
I meant no meaning besides the "discourse particle" aspect of them
 
For those who aren't familiar with the thing #290 is referring to: youtube.com/watch?v=qjOZtWZ56lc
 
12:47 AM
wow a lot of these are puns or references
"#501
Your conculture has a specific dialect for each season, but they don’t have established boundaries on when each season starts on their calendar."
this one is interesting to me because it's kind of like how we handle times of day
oh wait a specific dialect!!
not a different word
ooooooh k that's very different
 
That seems torturous
 
I always thought morning was from 6am to 12pm, afternoon is until 6pm, and after that it's evening
 
Here, I'm pretty sure we define night as 'when everybody starts leaving'
 
 
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2:23 AM
linguistics!
OOOH @Deus @doorknob
BAD CONLANG IDEAS
Deus have you heard of kay(f)bop(t)?
Phonosynthesis: the vocabuary of your language increases when the sun is out
wait what it was phoneme inventory
 
amount of distinctive sounds
 
@as4s4hetic I thought it was making glucose out of sound + water + oxygen :P
 
@Apep Yeah I know what the phoneme inventory is I just thought the badconlangingideas post was about vocab
ok ok ok so @Doorknob sent this video to me a while back
 
ah, I mistook it for is.
 
since deus mentioned badconlangingideas... :P
@doorknob you're here!!!!
 
2:34 AM
o/
 
sorry I haven't done anything this morning >_< I had a hockey game
 
@as4s4hetic :/ that seems like a very hard language
 
@as4s4hetic haha no worries there's not much left
 
@Sphinx Um, what is this?
 
2:40 AM
@as4s4hetic Yes but just imagine how much you have to practice to speak it properly
It takes a lot of skill to switch hats that often and that quickly
 
kay(f)bop(t) is the reason I walk into random discount stores and ask if they sell turkey-shaped hats
 
@ASCII-only there are some amazingly subtle jokes worked in
this for example
 
Round of contact?
 
:P yeah I didn't even see those until doorknob pointed them out
and the daniel thing was great
 

 Contact

For playing the game Contact, where one person tries to "defend"...
^Here, a link
 
3:10 AM
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Q: Put the numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 so the total of each row, column and diagonal add up to the same number

Breanna SnyderPuzzle for grade 11 foundations of mathamatics course thank you in advance for the help

 
Does 384 solutions count as too broad?
 
For what?
 
That recently posted puzzle.
 
If I recall correctly, there are 8 solutions
 
Ah, I was miscounting, then
 
3:23 AM
@Sphinx Is it similar enough to this to close?
 
4:02 AM
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Q: Weights and balloons are in equilibrium on the figure

Jamal SenjayaInspired by this puzzle : Note that the weights and balloons are in equilibrium on the smaller figure. Move them to the larger figure and obtain equilibrium. I created my own version: Put numbers -5 to 6, without 0 to the blue dots. There are 2 solutions.

 
 
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5:10 AM
@as4s4hetic Nope, never heard of it.
That's hilarious.
 
What is the time there?
 
Where I am? 00:20.
@stacksfiller Yeah, a lot of them are just references, which gets annoying.
 
 
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Sid
7:03 AM
@alconja some hint perhaps?
 
7:26 AM
Sure, a hint would be nice
 
9:10 AM
@Rubio ^?
 
Nuked from orbit. Thank you.
 
If an ad ever makes it onto Sphinx (e.g above) then we're a bit slow in the deletion proces
 
9:45 AM
@Sid ok, in the form of a slightly easier version:
CCCC: Reptiles, though devouring nothing, are filled with little confidence (9)
(if there's a room owner around, feel free to pin this one instead...)
 
o_O that's... interesting
 
with little = w, right? I don't think little confidence is right...
 
Should the onebox be nuked as well as the post it quotes? Just sayin'
 
What onebox?
 
The one by Sphinx
 
9:56 AM
What's a onebox?
 
little confidence? O_o
 
Not sure what "confidence" ∩ "little confidence" would be, so W seems good
 
little confidence seems completely different to the previous version
 
It's weird because if the def had been "[filled] with confidence", "[filled] with little confidence" now means basically the opposite, so that begs the question of which parsing is right... (e.g. short word for "confidence"?)
 
> To beg the question is to assume the truth of the conclusion of an argument in the premises in order for the conclusion to follow.
 
10:02 AM
I guess the def isn't 'filled with confidence' then
 
most likely it's reptiles then
 
If the definition is reptiles, then my problem is I see no other plurals in the clue
 
The -s might come from "though" and double insertion
 
If it's "reptiles", the plural might not necessarily end in S, e.g. plurals of genus (?) names. But yeah, bit stuck there :P
 
@Wen1now the message by Sphinx that takes up way too much vertical space :P
@Sp3000 do those even have plurals :/
 
10:06 AM
Apparently I meant "order" not "genus" (dunno, never did biology). But basically I meant if the answer was "Crocodylia", say, that's technically referring to more than one crocodile type
Not saying that the answer's necessarily the scientific names for anything, but just throwing it out there
 
Ah
but devouring and filled with... what could they mean if reptiles was the def
 
Both insertion indicators
 
how does that work lol
 
though = yet
 
or but?
 
10:11 AM
Then fill that up with some stuff
 
@Wen1now *nothing :P
 
(again, I was going to make a joke on that but refrained)
Can nothing = o?
 
Yeah it can
 
Okay, I'm giving up again
 
If "as" could mean "though" I could make a case for A(NA(CON)DA)S
 
10:17 AM
I think that's it
 
Oh, nice
 
wow, nice
 
Yeah I think that's it - Google/Oxford lists "even though." as def #4 for AS
 
and it's the meaning being used here
 
I completely forgot about this
yesterday, by Rubio
An Alconja, without the L and the J, is ANACONDA. A reptile. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.
 
10:20 AM
O_O
 
Wouldn't have thought of confidence->con
 
so, little confidence indeed
 
Well pinging @Alconja for confirmation
 
I'd be pretty con in this solution
 
(actually I don't fully get confidence->con tbh - I don't think I've seen that abbreviation elsewhere)
 
10:23 AM
A con is short for confidence trick, I think?
 
Maybe this question is just a big con...
 
Seems to check out - TIL :P
> late 19th century (originally US): abbreviation of confidence, as in confidence trick .
(from "define: con")
 
used like "You were conned"
 
10:39 AM
it's gotta be ANACONDAS, nice find
I would have probably picked up on that if I'd been here for it, alas.
I already suspected CON and that just confirmed it for me
 
Sorry I'm double-quoting -
yesterday, by Rubio
An Alconja, without the L and the J, is ANACONDA. A reptile. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.
 
Pretty impressive that you got the right reptile right off the bat, Rubio
 
that "are" threw me off the track. it's not used in the wordplay.
 
yesterday, by Alconja
Glad to hear you guys saying this, because I agonised (albeit very briefly) over one of the words in my current CC. It's not strictly necessary, but helps the surface, and in at least one technical interpretation can be forced to be part of the word play.
 
We'd kinda discussed that - I think the "are" here falls rather squarely on the side of not participating in the wordplay at all, unless someone can help me see how it might
the wordplay is, literally, though (AS) devouring nothing A(NADA)S filled with [little] confidence A(NA(CON)DA)S
 
10:50 AM
I think the "at least one technical interpretation" is that it's "though" nested with "nothing" being filled so there's two containers
 
Do we get a new 4c then?
 
ANACONDAS it is.
 
well of course that's the meaning, but how does "are" get used? I don't see any way to parse it where ARE is involved
 
Since everyone is confident and I was sleeping half an hour ago and should probably go back, you all get a quickie
 
Well what I mean is that it's "filled with" vs "are filled with", a la "backed" vs "backed up" - you can drop the "are", but it also makes sense with it
 
10:53 AM
a la?
 
CCCC: Not originally hidden! (5)
 
@Rubio both "as" and "nada" are filled with "con"
 
oh. yah ok gotcha, I guess I'll buy that :)
 
[c]OVERT?
 
Yep
 
10:56 AM
That's pretty fast
 
@Rubio told you it was a bit of a technicality. :)
 
@Wen1now "A la" = "In the style of", e.g. Google cites "afternoon talk shows à la Oprah" (yeah there should be an accent, but lazy typing)
 
@Wen1now I said it was a quickie :P
 
CCCC: Human right liberates princess, so we hear (4, 6)
 
FREE SPEECH
Poor Peach
 
10:58 AM
:P
 
Darn, I was trying to get 'HOMO SAPIEN' to fit
 
CCCC: This vehicle has a loan with introductory annual rate and regular payments (except first and last), from start of January to end of December. (8, 4)
 
New meta: writing entire texts as CCCCs
 
hehee
 
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Q: Move parts of me to change me. What am I?

nitro2k01 Move three of me west, and you get something that can hold text on a computer, or something that turns. Move one of me west, and one of me south-east, and you get something that can hold text on paper, or something that prevents turning, at least if you are picky. Move one of me west, and you ge...

 
11:02 AM
Hmm I'm a letter short
 
How can you be a letter short?
 
So am I
 
... oh
 
Unless it's the one in "a loan"
 
:)
 
11:04 AM
C(A+LEND+A[nnual]+R[rate] [Pa]Y[m]E[nTs])AR
Yeah the one in "a loan"
 
Using that letter was originally an accident between when I had the idea and when I started typing it up. I liked it, so fixed around it.
 
I feel slightly bad for sniping ffao :P (in case the above wasn't clear, it's CALENDAR YEAR)
 
Um, you were slightly faster so it's fine
 
CCCC: Ending to Medea left him confused, gets break from play (8)
 
It's the third time I get sniped this week, I'm getting used to it :P
 
11:08 AM
Not a good thing to get used to
 
(HALFTIME)*
 
Duh, I was trying to remove A
When I had to add it
 
I was playing with "port" for a while. hehe
CCCC: Dead set on camping without sib? (9)
(...I'm not sorry.)
 
(That's not foreboding at all!)
 
Maybe something funny going on with camping, since it has no "straight" synonyms that I know of
 
11:21 AM
INSISTENT
(IN TENT around SIS)
 
Gareth's in to save the d-... oh wait
 
Indeed
 
@Sp3000 Now this is foreboding
 
^
I thought we banned him :)
 
Someone else can set the next one if you really want.
 
11:24 AM
But.... the eldritch abominations ....
 
Nah, keep at it :P just joshing
 
How come it's around SIS?
 
Sib = sibling = brother or sister
 
I mean, without means minus right?
 
it also means outside
 
11:25 AM
Without as in not within
It's not a pun, it actually has this meaning
 
The two instances of this least unlikely to be familiar are (1) sometimes you hear people talking about "the enemy within" and "the enemy without", and (2) a hymn that talks about "a green hill far away / without a city wall".
But it's not a common usage outside cryptic clues.
 
Okay, thanks for the clarification
 
CCCC: Oddly shy one is into computers or science (7)
 
P(HYS+I)CS
 
Yup.
See, I can set easy ones too.
 
11:37 AM
:P I know, you've set easy ones in the past too - I personally don't mind either way, but it's just amusing to tease
CCCC: Extremely popular director Burton enters the Underground with Apple device he captures in to produce comedy film (3, 3, 4, 7)
 
How many premade clues do you have? It seems like you never run out :)
 
Er... enough for a few more? Given the recent lulls
 
HOT TUB TIME MACHINE
Never heard of it :)
 
nor me
but it's clearly right
I'd got much of the way there but hadn't thought of HOT or TUBE yet
 
Hot tub(Tim)e mac h(in)e
 
11:43 AM
("... he captures in ..." was a bit of a giveaway)
 
CCCC: Taking control from the east of the Sound; turning South; retreating, pursued by vigilantes. (10)
 
^better kill that
 
Kill what? :)
 
Kill the dead thing
 
zzzzzzap
didn't know you could delete the sphinx's messages
 
11:50 AM
There's no difference between a sphinx message and a regular message
 
Ok I'm off for a while. Happy cryptoclueology
 
I want to say vigilantes are a posse and the whole clue is possessing, but no luck on parsing that mess in the middle
 
Funnily enough, I have the other half to the clue
 
Haha, that's pretty funny
 
Feels like there's a mismatch with the def though hmm
 
11:58 AM
'taking control' is the def right?
 
Yeah, but I've got a nounal ending, which should be more like "taking of control" or something
 
As in a spirit possessing someone, or so I thought
 
As in possession?
 
Yeah
 
taking control from = possession - does that help?
 
12:05 PM
Unless I'm misinterpreting, "taking control [from]" should be "possessing" not "possession" though? Wordplay gives the latter, however
 
Okay, never mind. My English is clearly terrible
I'm just going to disappear now...
 
Well, I don't know how convincing your wordplay for the nounal ending is, but if it clearly ends in ION then I see no way to make it match "taking..."
 
It's NOIS{E->S} backwards, wanted you to go next though :P
 
Oh, that is quite convincing
We can just live with the mismatch and yell at Rubio when he wakes up
 
it could be referring to the paranormal type of possession
aaaah sorry I can't read
 
12:24 PM
Would like to pass the baton to ffao for seeing posse, but I guess technically I'm up next assuming we're fine with the mismatch for now?
 
Eh, I'll just do an easy one since I wanted to follow up
CCCC: Oddly shy Asian nearly grasping technology, for example computer software (7)
 
Oh, follow up for that one, I see :P
 
12:42 PM
Maybe I can actually go now
Yell at me later if needed
 
Sid
12:55 PM
Hmm... Interesting
I think I have it, but I don't see a part of the wordplay
@ffao is this SYSTEMS? SY+SEMS(from Siamese) surrounding T(Technology).
Doesn't seem too convincing to me but thought I would let it out..
 
Hmm close but not too keen on the middle part yeah...
 
2:01 PM
should be ShYaSiAn nearly -> SYS, grasping STEM -> SYSTEMS
 
That looks a bit more like it, nice
 
how does nearly -> SYS work?
oh, ShYaSiAn nearly
oh boy
 
2:41 PM
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Q: The farmer and the olive trees

DattierA farmer has a rectangular ground of 100 m by 50 m, he wants to plant olive trees, in sufficiently spaced ways (to avoid exhaustion by the roots) at least 10 meters from each other. How much can one hope to put at the most, effectively?

 
3:06 PM
@stacksfiller so you're up next to set a c4
 
CCCC: Erratic, eccentric, nuts, and powerful (8)
 
UNST* + ABLE
I'll need a few to give another
 
3:30 PM
is erratic the anagrind and the def or is eccentric the anagrind?
 
Sid
Erratic is def
Eccentric is anagrind
 
CCCC: Scoffed at music, poorly tuned. (10)
 
Sid
DISCO+UNTED)*
 
4:13 PM
On the off chance you were waiting for confirmation, yes that's right.
 
Sid
4:27 PM
CCCC: I apologize to Wen's or Ryan's! (5)
 
uh
SORRY but
you're missing an indicator?
 
Sid
"To" is not a valid indicator?
To as In, "there"?
 
not for that
 
something like hidden in or found in
 
Sid
Oh... Um.. I missed that, completely. :P
 
4:32 PM
CCCC: Maybe we'd or I'd back away from the inconsistent statement. (11)
 
CONTRA[di]CTION
 
Sid
I don't understand CONTRACTION.
 
> Maybe "we'd"
 
maybe indicates category, we'd is a contaction
 
CCCC: Funnily, we think a woman repeated line from a Monty Python sketch (4, 4, 1, 4)
 
Sid
4:38 PM
(In my previous clue, could I have used "stealthily" ashidden indicator?)
 
Not on its own IMO
 
huh.
 
Sid
Either Rubio has got this or he dislikes the enumeration
 
no, I'm cranky that I haven't got it yet
oh damn you
 
(KNOW WHAT I MEAN)*
 
4:49 PM
KNOW WHAT I MEAN
 
ha, sniped
 
bah
i had that
 
(I had to look stuff up for it though, since I (unfortunately) haven't watched much Monty Python. You can have the clue if you want)
 
funnily = anagrind, repeated ... = def?
 
Sid
A race to the line.
 
4:50 PM
@JohnDvorak yup
 
Obligatory context: youtube.com/watch?v=AGrvQ1c5khU (skit that popularised "wink wink nudge nudge say no more")
 
so, @Rubio, are you gonna take it? (I kinda "cheated".) if not, I'd be happy to
 
yah, making a clue
CCCC: Bits of precipitation flow irregularly in mangroves, perhaps. (10)
actually that's not valid
 
rip
 
Fixed.
 
5:01 PM
can you update the starboard
on the off chance that deusovi doesn't get this in less than a minute
flow or irregularly probably the def
 
SN(OWFL*)AKES
 
where did you get snakes from
 
mangrove is a type of snake
 
CCCC: Iron laid in wild plains for perhaps a century (8)
 
LIFESPAN*
or really LISPAN* with FE in there
 
5:08 PM
Yeah, more the latter
 
nice surface
 
5:25 PM
CCCC: Egyptian king's heirs almost split up by master revolutionary. (8)
 
5:57 PM
> A mangrove is a shrub or small tree that grows in coastal saline or brackish water.
 
that's what i thought of first and my brain refused to think it was anything else
 
Wiktionary refuses the same
 
a "mangrove snake" is a thing.
 
link?
 
6:08 PM
OK, maybe I should switch to a descriptive dictionary...
 
 
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7:32 PM
insert old pet peeve about mangrove being a qualifier
@Rubio SC(ORP<)ION [-s]
 
Sid
Scorpion is a revolutionary?
 
Egyptian king
 
Sid
Oh...duh
 
7:45 PM
@ffao aye
 
can someone explain this riddle to me? In the present, a mad buffoon prances past. He is the spirit seeking experience;
From the past comes to me the iron fist of power, command, and order;
But the future is grim. Chaos, ruin; they blaze across my eyes like wildfire;
The reason behind the inquiry appears to ride on honor, conquest, and victory;
Lastly, there is great potential, but first there is a pressing need to withdraw from isolation and share what you have learned with the world.
 
8:47 PM
CCCC: A short beginner goddess (7)
 
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