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5:48 AM
@TorbjørnT. Changes to the wikibook. Finally :-) Thanks
 
 
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8:48 AM
This user deserves a bonus: tex.stackexchange.com/q/388307/101651!
 
9:26 AM
@CarLaTeX Now he's on Meta we can upvote without even giving him something. So the whole question seems paradox.
 
@TeXnician No rep results
 
@JosephWright That's what I meant.
 
@DavidCarlisle choo choo
 
@TeXnician I know, I voted to migrate it on Meta, I intended only to highlight the question :):):)
 
@egreg @ChristianHupfer Opinions on that classifthesis based template? overleaf.com/latex/templates/doriens-phd-thesis-template/…
 
9:34 AM
@CarLaTeX I have voted for migration too. And nice answer btw.
 
@TeXnician Thank you! :):):) Let's hope he finds a question to answer, I'll immediately upvote it!
 
 
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11:22 AM
@samcarter When you read "Quack" instead of "Jack" on a t-shirt of a boy you meet on the street, it's time to stop using tikzducks for a while...
 
@CarLaTeX The tee is wrong.
 
@PauloCereda Should I tell the boy to correct it?
 
@CarLaTeX Yes, and slap him around with a rubber duck. :)
Replace Python with Javascript, put some pineapple on the pizza and you have just described the worst version of he… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/901401531295182848
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11:41 AM
@PauloCereda LOL I think @DavidCarlisle will totally agree!
 
11:51 AM
@CarLaTeX Do we need a questions about "QuackAnonymus - 10 steps to quite tikzducks addiction?"
 
@samcarter no. :)
@samcarter: can we have an alternate short hair, please? :)
 
@PauloCereda The "tube hair" you proposed a while ago is on my todo list (I plan to take vacation next week, I should have a bit of time then). But if you'd like to add a hairstyle of your choice I would happily to add it to the package :)
 
@samcarter I don't know TikZ enough for such complexities, so for now I think it's easier to annoy other people. :)
 
@PauloCereda I would also take .svg images :) (I don't know tikz myself)
 
@samcarter hmmm
 
12:10 PM
@samcarter Does anybody know tikz? With the possible exception of its author, of course. I have a feeling that the rest of us just muddle along, copying the work of others, adapting it to our own needs, and hoping for the best. I know that is how I do it, anyway.
 
@samcarter LOL Duck addition is very contagious!
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Thanks for the comforting words! That's actually a pretty good description!
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen That's exactly what I do!
@barbarabeeton I imagine you're very busy, but please don't forget me about that thing! :):):)
 
 
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1:48 PM
@Johannes_B I don't buy anything with ClassicThesis in it -- it is scratched ;-) (@PauloCereda)
 
@ChristianHupfer No, not classicthesis. classifthesis
 
@Johannes_B Isn't that the same rubbish?
 
@ChristianHupfer Have a look at the template and judge for yourself.
 
@Johannes_B Why should I?
 
@ChristianHupfer Good question. There is no real reason.
 
1:55 PM
@Johannes_B Then I will refuse. Resistance is not futile ...
 
@ChristianHupfer That is ok :-)
 
@PauloCereda ... not alone :):):)
 
@PauloCereda @CarLaTeX: No Duck Vader, unfortunately :-(
 
@CarLaTeX LOL
@ChristianHupfer :)
 
2:08 PM
Aug 22 at 13:52, by CarLaTeX
@samcarter With all this talking about the dark side of the Force... what about a Jedi duck and a Duck Vader one?
@ChristianHupfer ^^^ coming soon :):):)
 
@PauloCereda: I could post a Duck image of the POTUS but I don't want to annoy our American users here ...
 
@ChristianHupfer oh no
 
@PauloCereda You've got mail
 
@ChristianHupfer ooh
@ChristianHupfer you too :)
 
Greetings from Côte d'Azur
 
2:19 PM
@egreg ooh is it really blue? :)
 
@egreg Ciao! Have a good trip!
 
I heard they are blue da ba dee da ba da /ba dum tss
@Johannes_B ^^
 
@PauloCereda I'd say cyan :)
 
@PauloCereda You again... I think it's better not to post that image here ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer nope!
 
2:20 PM
@PauloCereda :-)
 
@PauloCereda I find your ability to remember bad music quite disturbing ... and don't you dare to post a link of Franzl Lang Yodeling or that Kükensong!!!!
 
@ChristianHupfer oh I was so close! :)
 
@PauloCereda Don't
@PauloCereda: you
@PauloCereda: dare!
 
@ChristianHupfer I bet the song from Eiffel 65 is stuck in your head now. :) Glad to be of service. :)
@ChristianHupfer <3
@ChristianHupfer There's always Schnappi :)
 
@PauloCereda No chance: I am listening to L.A. Women by the Doors right now :-P
 
2:30 PM
@ChristianHupfer ooh :) I like Riders on the storm.
 
@PauloCereda That's the next song
 
@ChristianHupfer yay
 
@PauloCereda Roadhouse Blues is also very cool
 
@ChristianHupfer yes!
 
3:11 PM
@Johannes_B Well, I had to fix that ...
 
3:26 PM
@TorbjørnT. Good job. The revision was accepted so everybody can see the change.
 
 
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5:14 PM
@PauloCereda First song :-) youtube.com/watch?v=ho8s4Z13-gk
 
@percusse Not at all annoyed are you?
 
@PauloCereda I watched the whole thing. Somewhere to the end i thought: One cool song is issing. It was the last one :-)
 
5:46 PM
@JosephWright Sorry, I didn't get the context. To what?
Or at what? My english will never be OK :)
Or is it by what?
let me google
 
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Q: Core TeX "Hello, world!"

Evan AadAs an experiment, I wish to write a manuscript in core TeX, which typesets the text "Hello, world!", and compile it without any format. If I was using the Plain TeX format, this program would be Hello, world!% \bye So to make this program independent of the format, I've copied all the missing...

 
@JosephWright I have no problem with it. Did I do something wrong?
 
@percusse No, I just wondered if you answer was 'making a point'
 
@JosephWright Ah no, just to upgeek the question :-) Bring in an Assembler guy to a fight with C programmers type of stuff.
 
@percusse :-D
 
6:21 PM
Hello everyone.
I'm upgrading my own class file to work with TexLive 2017 (things have broken since TexLive 2015 :-( )
Do you know how I can display the content of the following variables?
```
\typeout{DEBUG DATE TODAY 1: \yyyymmdddate}
\typeout{DEBUG DATE TODAY 1: \today}
```
(I was used to use these kind of debug info, but completely forgot how things are working since then. I googled, but for this particular use case, either using expandafter or let, but this didn't work :-/ )
\the I meant
\show and \meaning didn't work either. Damn...
 
6:40 PM
@wget are you using datetime package? There \today is protected
 
@chr
@ChristianHupfer yes, I'm ;)
Actually, it seems the \today command is being remodified again after the moment I call \yyyymmdddate
What I need to debug now is to determine which package is responsible of this issue.
\listfiles will come in handy I think
 
@wget Well, datetime is redefining \today ;-) And there is datetime2 as a successor of datetime
 
@ChristianHupfer yep, Actually, this is what I'm trying to do display the date as ISO 8601 format.
If I put \yyyymmdddate just before \today, this is working. If I put \yyyymmdddate a bit earlier, today is empty.
Thanks for the advice with datetime2
 
@wget Can show you show a really minimal but compilable document that has this issue?
@wget: By the way, \show should always work, even for an undefined macro -- it will say that the macro is undefined ;-)
 
Yep. A MWE :) Gonna provide you this.
 
6:51 PM
Ah, would have been nice to have a lua callback for \def and \let, wouldn't it? Then it would be easy to figure out who or what defined a given control sequence.
 
@ChristianHupfer https://gist.github.com/wget/e98d068758a0ef6c7b468cff9dd7c9b2#file-wgetdoc-cls-L559
https://gist.github.com/wget/212ebdc266284ea815729a1ee824f8e1
(actually the first file is my whole current class, that way you do not have any differences between my config and yours)
 
@wget Sigh: That's not minimal -- you're using fonts I don't have installed. That's the main culprit with XeLaTeX ... this bunch of fonts
 
@ChristianHupfer that's just line n° 200 you have to comment
for other languages that may fails, these are already commented
 
@percusse Except the question wasn't a minimum input to create a 'Hello world' PDF ...
@percusse Though that does seem to be how it's been read
 
7:17 PM
@ChristianHupfer I upgraded to datetime2 and used DTMnow, this fixed the problem.
And btw, I switched to a full install of Texlive (brought by my linux distribution) and the compilation is now faster
(Iwas using a manual/minimal install from CTAN)
 
@barbarabeeton Just noticed on p. 94 of the style guide: Add 's to form a possessive from a name ending in “s”. So now it's “Stokes's theorem”, is it? It might stop people from calling it “Stoke's” theorem: a good thing. Similarly, a PDE textbook that I am currently teaching from, makes reference to “Burger's equation”, but the equation is named after someone called Burgers. I am used to writing “Burgers' equation”, but I guess I shall start writing “Burgers's equation” from now on.
@barbarabeeton Anecdote: Whoever named Burgers' equation apparently asked Burgers for permission, and was told: “So long as it is not written ‘Burger's equation’, that is okay”. Ha!
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Stokes's theorem? I'm surprised.
 
@mickep Yep, named after Sir George Stokes.
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Indeed (I'm a mathematician), but I still prefer it to be Stokes' theorem.
 
@mickep That's what I am used to calling it too. But it is being misunderstood, on a massive scale.
@mickep The Burger's/Burgers' thing is worse, of course. Who would want to be remebered as a 'burger?
Maybe it is (was?) primarily a British usage. We Gowers's Weblog, for example.
 
7:31 PM
@HaraldHanche-Olsen Perhaps worse, but not that common (I mean, not all university students meet Burgers). On the other hand, I am not the right person to tell others how to write/spell names, I have (for example) pronounced the end of Chebyshev incorrect for a very long time.
 
@mickep I probably pronounce it wrong too! (I.e., the way most others westerners do.)
(too many spelling mistakes above – please disregard – it is getting late)
 
I always ended it with a "sheff" and not the correct "shoff". Well well, getting late it is...
 
Ah, got it; thanks! I'll ask my Russian speaking colleagues for confirmation later. It's a bit like Kolmogorov, then, which I think also ends with “-off”.
 
7:55 PM
I logged in from my phone just because burgers were mentioned and I am hungry!
😁
 
@PauloCereda Sorry, we're all out of burgers. Care for some duck?
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen oh no
@percusse wait for chapter 3 of my thesis, probably section 3.3, to shock people who like macros. 😁
 
@PauloCereda, @ChristianHupfer, @CarLaTeX, @cfr, @DavidCarlisle, @JosephWright, @Moriambar, @egreg, @UlrikeFischer etc A friendly greeting to all of you and I apologize to all those who know me for my absence due to personal motives.
 
8:16 PM
@Sebastiano Hi Sebastiano, welcome back!
 
Aug 4 at 19:37, by David Carlisle
user image
@HaraldHanche-Olsen ^^
 
@ChristianHupfer -- the only way that would annoy this user is the waste of a good duck.
 
and just to be fair:
 
8:35 PM
@wget Ok, I was not inclined to dig deeper into your class ;-)
 
No problem :)
 
8:49 PM
@barbarabeeton: Here's the link of the 'image' I mentioned. I hope, you don't feel offended: spiegel.de/fotostrecke/…
 
does anybody have an idea how to efficiently trick beamer into always displaying one footnote-template at the end of a frame? I tried adding \footnote to \end{frame} but it had simply no effect.
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen -- i must admit, i don't personally love the "-s's", but it's harder to misinterpret. i think it's what is now recommended/decreed by chicago. (i rather prefer fowler, but then i'm an old fogie.) ams now follows chicago. (except, as i have convinced them, that they shouldn't put punctuation inside of the quotes when what's inside the quotes is an instruction to be typed, and the punctuation should not be included in the typed instruction.)
 
@Skillmon @samcarter might know ... or @JosephWright ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer I was just before replying or Joseph... Thanks for pinging them :)
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen -- but chebyshev is spelled with an e-with-dieresis (palatalizing the preceding consonant), and kolmogorov is really spelled with an o in cyrillic. (or, in some transliteration schemes, "yo" vs. "o".)
@DavidCarlisle -- bleccchhhh!
@DavidCarlisle -- unkind comparison. she at least behaves decently.
@ChristianHupfer -- not in the least. my husband will love it!
 
9:05 PM
@barbarabeeton I don't think you or your husband need a translation of the speech bubble in the cartoon there...
 
@ChristianHupfer -- correct. not needed. sadly, ...
 
@barbarabeeton Yes, unfortunately :-(
 
@Skillmon I put stuff in the footline, for example
\makeatletter
\newcommand*{\referencetext}{}
\setbeamertemplate{footline}[text line]{%
  \fontsize{7pt}{8pt}\selectfont
  \color{UEAgrey}%
  \parbox{\linewidth}{\vspace*{-30pt}\referencetext}%
}
\makeatother
 
@JosephWright I think that should go to @Skillmon...
 
where UEAgrey is a colour matching our work scheme (not that academics take much notice of such things)
@ChristianHupfer Opps
@ChristianHupfer Fixed
 
9:14 PM
@JosephWright But the footline is printed prior to the contents (as far as I can tell), so I can't manipulate it from within a frame (at least not without a second run)
 
@Skillmon Entirely true
@Skillmon For my use case that's fine: I tend to want footnotes that apply across several frames
 
@JosephWright Thanks, but that's unfortunately my problem, so I wanted to put it into footnote.
@JosephWright I had your setup created (but only for the stuff I want to put there on every frame), but I need to be able to put citations there and am not satisfied with the placement of the normal footnotes. I could create something that puts them on the correct spot (well I did), but that kept changing the placement of the other stuff on the frames.
@JosephWright Let's say I have a very static frame layout (I hate that institute's layouts, the one for my thesis was horrible to reconstruct -- damn MS Word)
I like beamer for all the stuff it does in the background if you can use one of the shipped themes, but creating a very static and specific template seems a pain in the ass to me!
 
@Dr.ManuelKuehner: There's something uncertain (!!!) in this question by Heisenberg ;-) — Christian Hupfer 21 secs ago
 
cfr
10:08 PM
@Sebastiano Hi!
 

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