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@StrixVaria Did you see that Meta post and his subsequent suspension?

@YiJiang Yeah, that's why I'm bringing it back up.

I'm not sure if @LessPopMoreFizz was talking about him or someone else.

@StrixVaria It was LPMF and I.

@OrigamiRobot :(

12:08 PM

Good morning everyone ... and good afternoon for the rest

Blem

good afternoon @Stephen and grats

@Lazers :x Holy crap

Congrats @Stephen!

Q: Can I change the outcome of a dream?

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In a dream, I don't really have a clue what's going on, and they all seem to end the same way with Is there anything else that can happen, or any way I can influence what goes on in a dream?

mass-effect-3

@LessPopMoreFizz @fredley @blem @everyoneElse Thanks for the help in getting to general

@FAE Well, considering what people would do for rep when it's only a (relatively) meaningless number sitting on the top of site, think what would happen when real prizes are at stake

12:10 PM

Thanks @FAE

@YiJiang What's funny is he wasn't going to get any prizes because he had no shares.

@YiJiang Yeah, that's true... but damn. :/ I don't think your reputation's gonna recover from that. The personal one I mean, not necessarily the number.

What's funny is he actually wrote up not just one but several really strong contributions.

Even after the reversal, he seems to cleanly have the up votes for Mission 4

@LessPopMoreFizz That's really a shame ... a lot of his contributions were decent

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah, he answered the "which weapons for which classes in MP" one, didn't he?

12:17 PM

@YiJiang May wanna put that behind a NSFW link

@FAE yes.

@FAE Language?

@YiJiang newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/mis/2912925539.html

Ah well, to late. I guess we'd have to push it up

12:20 PM

There.

@YiJiang Well I don't have a job, so it doesn't bother me, but someone else's boss might be walking by :P

There's a limit on message size?

I've seen @badp post ridiculously long messages.

@StrixVaria well @badp hax.

@StrixVaria There is, though I can't remember the exact limit

@YiJiang It's apparently pretty short.

12:21 PM

@FAE You parasitic society-draining welfare queen you.

Around four lines in the textbox for me

> Nephalem Valor is one of the major new systems in Diablo III and it kicks in at level 60. Keep in mind that this is still in testing and we’re still working out the details. Here’s how it currently works internally: Rare and Champion packs already have great loot on them.

> By killing a Rare or Champion pack, not only do you get their loot, but you’ll also receive a buff granting you increased magic find and gold find. However, if you change a skill, skill rune, passive, or leave the game, the buff disappears. As an extra reward, if you kill a boss while this buff is active, you’ll receive extra loot drops from that boss.

They're really doing a lot to prevent the degenerative play in late-game D3.

Like what happened in D2.

@StrixVaria killing a... pack?

MOAR BAAL RUNS

@FAE pack of mobs

12:22 PM

@FAE Mobs in Diablo come in groups.

@FAE think pack of wolves. Except instead of wolves it is demons.

Rare packs have 1 really strong mob that empowers the normal mobs around him.

badp

@StrixVaria the message limit is dropped on multiline messages

but then you give up formatting

@LessPop_MoreFizz Delicious government money, nomnomnom

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Champion packs are all extra strong, but not as strong as the rare leaders.

@badp Oh ok.

12:23 PM

(also no, I don't actually get any subsidies or anything :P)

@StrixVaria Sounds cool ... hopefully they decide it's worth keeping the content flowing so that we don't stand around ubering with bored looks on our faces :)

@LessPop_MoreFizz I was still in like, ME3 mindset so I thought this was like some sort of booster pack like Recruit packs or something, haha.

@Stephen I never got strong enough to do Uber Tristram, although I came close.

I think Inferno difficulty will keep me occupied for a long time.

@StrixVaria I joined a clan to help fight the players to pop stuff problem in ladder. Mind you even that's been quiet for a while. Inferno does have some possibilities

I actually spent most of my time in Diablo 2 replaying normal over and over with new characters.

Coming up with new builds to try out.

So I'm really excited for the skill system in D3.

Every time you play with me, my character's going to be completely different.

12:27 PM

@FAE Pfft. You live in Europe and don't have a job. Obviously you are suckling at the socialist welfare states teat until it all collapses and GLORIOUS CAPITALIST AMERICA needs to ride in and save you all.

<3 free respecs

Heh, I first played it when it was new ... I was the first kid on my block to solo the game with a Paladin ... that was a long time before runes too... a triple perfect diamond shield was a big deal :-)

Ugh I have to go to work. I'll be back on around 9.

@StrixVaria Until you realize that one build is Clearly The Best and there is no reason to do anything different until the patch.

@StrixVaria So do I. Stupid work.

(Which is about 18 hectoseconds away.)

@LessPop_MoreFizz I don't care about archetypes. I specifically don't use the Clearly The Best build.

It's not as much fun for me as being creative is.

12:29 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz They won't need to because COMMUNISM WILL SAVE ME! Because socialism always leads to communism!

Blem

@FAE FOR THE MOTHERLAND!

@StrixVaria I'm like this too. I prefer fiddling and tweaking and trying esoteric builds that, while they may not be FotM, are at least interesting to me and I like trying to milk the most effectiveness out of those.

Which is another reason I wouldn't like a classic MMO.

@Blem I know people who actually think this. :( Or at least display those thoughts on FB.

Everyone would rage at me for not conforming.

12:30 PM

@StrixVaria It's pretty neat. I've mostly played Monk since runes were available.

@StrixVaria That's actually one of the things that drew me to GW and continues into GW2.

You can't customize your attributes, though.

Blem

@FAE I use to have some friends on FB like that also

Though GW1 is more static in that regard with #'s being better for hard mode and elite stuff, but you still have a lot of room to play around and could freely respec. GW1 even has a build save/load/share system.

Monk and demon hunter look particularly interesting ... not sure which way I'm going to go just yet though

fredley

12:32 PM

Keyboard or 'phones? I'm tempted by 'phones I think

@OrigamiRobot this drives me nuts

@OrigamiRobot If I want to try out a Dex-based Witch Doctor, so what? Let me. :(

@FAE Who knows maybe it's a beta only thing?

@StrixVaria If you ever want to try out GW2 in a decade or so whenever you're done with D3, I still think you'd like its systems.

@fredley Do you wear a headset now and do you already have a surround sound setup?

Q: Can you determine ball swing direction?

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Is there a way to dictate which way the ball will swing if you overhit (making the swing meter go red) the ball in Wii Golf?

wii-sports

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Q: What is the impact of not having a ship's doctor?

According to the answers on my earlier question I may have missed my opportunity to have a ship's doctor on board the Normandy. What are the ramifications of not having a doctor on board? Could I potentially lose crew members?

mass-effect-3

12:41 PM

@FAE I agree. I want to play GW2. It just loses to D3, so the timing is unfortunate.

12:54 PM

@OrigamiRobot @IanPugsley So are we going to RB today when you guys lunch?

@FAE That's the plan.

My pinky is weak...

@OrigamiRobot If you're both on the guitar, I'll take either vocals or drums I guess, depending on the song. I can't expert drums though, only medium. :(

@FAE I would sing on some songs if I wasn't embarrassed.

@OrigamiRobot Well you can't hear people online! So the only one you'd have to be embarassed in front of is Ian, and I'd assume you two are kinda past that point. :P

fredley

@Stephen I don't.

12:59 PM

There are some really good Dragon Age and THQ sales this weekend at Gamersgate.

In case anyone is interested.

@FAE You fail to realize the extent of my shyness. I'm embarrassed in front of myself.

@OrigamiRobot Are you me?

@OrigamiRobot Aw. Also, you're green again.

@FAE Not for me he isn't.

@fredley I got my first surround setup to play multiplayer Ghost Recon, way back and it was an amazing leap forward in my game playing enjoyment

1:03 PM

@FAE Still red here.

@fredley If the headset is as cool as the reviews make it out to be, I think you'll be happy with it

@StrixVaria Whaaaa. I even cleared my cache and refreshed.

He's still green...

@StrixVaria We already established this.

@FAE I should be green.

@OrigamiRobot You guys lunch in about 3 hours, right?

@FAE About, yes.

Q: Can my Sims with music skills perform at venues with Showtime?

1:06 PM

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If I have a Sim with a high guitar skill or drums skill, can I get them to perform at a SimFest or a venue or something? Can I use these Sims to do any of the new Showtime features?

sims-3

@OrigamiRobot Okies. I need to afk and do some stuff, I should be back before that, but if I'm not, ping me before you leave work so I have a little time to setup before you guys get back to Ian's place, that sound good?

badp

@OrigamiRobot back to mad, aren't we.

(you're not green)

> sorohanro: As a kid I used to hum and sing all day. My mom thought that I am retarded and wanted to put me in a special school but my grandmother said: "NOOOOooooo, this would be a shame, put him in music school, he sings anyway".

Hah!

8 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

@FAE I should be green.

badp

1:14 PM

@OrigamiRobot That's why I'm mentioning this.

Chat is trolling me.

@OrigamiRobot You're green now

@YiJiang Not for me he isn't.

I just cleared cache and refreshed and he's still red.

Gravatar is a troll company.

Actually, I think the problem might be with chat

1:22 PM

@StrixVaria Yea? Well, you're still a pony!

@OrigamiRobot I was always GIR.

@StrixVaria Let me throw my tantrum!

@StrixVaria I loveded you piggy!

Ben Brocka

WHY MY PIGGY

1:26 PM

►

Whoa. Crazy abstract animation project.

Tim Stone

@OrigamiRobot The funny thing is that you aren't lying

Because you're definitely green on my screen.

But...you're red on my work computer.

Must be because work is srs bsns.

Q: Message from my university IT people explaining why Starcraft II wont work on campus, does this sound plausible?

Is this really useful?

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Is changing how the game is hosted even an option ? I haven't seen anything related to this on the SC forums. Right now any multiplayer game I joins lags out and I get dropped right away..but the games do at connect at least, they are just unusably laggy. Thanks! Chandler, The cause of ...

starcraft-2 lag

Q: How can I effectively play a Sentinel in multiplayer?

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I've never played a Sentinel at all in any of the games proper, so I have very little experience with their basic playstyle. As most of my experience has been with Vanguards and Adepts, I'm having trouble trying to figure what the Sentinel's strengths are and how best to play to them. I'm playing...

mass-effect-3 multiplayer

> (other possibilities are also possible of course)

@OrigamiRobot I think so.

@GnomeSlice To who? Starcraft 2 is coincidental in the question. It really has nothing to do with the game. It is about university networks and policies.

1:38 PM

@OrigamiRobot I agree, but that's still something lots of people probably wonder about.

@GnomeSlice That does not make it on topic.

What makes it off topic?

I wonder about whether I should get a new fan belt in my car sometimes too.

I couldn't ask that on gaming.

@GnomeSlice Because the gaming aspect could be completely removed and the question would be the same.

@StrixVaria The question would still be applicable to gaming...

Just no single, specific game.

@GnomeSlice So is changing my fan belt. I can't get home if my fan belt breaks, which would negatively impact my gaming time and which games I could play.

1:40 PM

@GnomeSlice Whether or not I upgrade my RAM could be applicable to gaming, but I'm not going to ask about it here.

@StrixVaria Now you're just being silly.

Those university policies and such can be directly applicable to gaming.

@GnomeSlice Explain how they're different then.

@GnomeSlice So can my fan belt. If I can't get home, I can't play my games. That directly affects my gaming.

@GnomeSlice This questions is basically asking "Is this how networks work?"

@GnomeSlice Should I ask "How can I get a stronger wireless signal from my router?" here? It can be very applicable to gaming.

@OrigamiRobot I guess I'm not supposed to say 'yes' to that.

Basically, whatever I think is usually the opposite of what the correct action should be.

I can make anything applicable to gaming if you want to allow loose connections like that.

1:44 PM

@OrigamiRobot This is what I was trying to prove.

"Should I wash my clothes while I'm playing video games?"

PROGRAMMING ON A BOAT

I guess the point I was trying to make was that I don't think that connection is as loose as the ones you're making.

The power draw from the washer could cause a breaker to trip, or make less power available to my router/console/PC.

@OrigamiRobot Fine, I'm wrong.

I'm still not voting to close it.

Just because.

1:49 PM

You say that like I gain something from you VTCing and you're keeping it away from me.

@OrigamiRobot I say that just to be annoying.

But no, I see your point, but I still stand by my opinion that it can do well on the site.

41 secs ago, by OrigamiRobot

You say that like I gain something from you VTCing and you're keeping it away from me.

@OrigamiRobot BLAHBLAHBLAH

every day you guys (@OrigamiRobot and @StrixVaria) get a little closer to just outright banning questions that have a problem whose context is gaming, but whose problem is not

if you're going to take that stance, just do it

@IanPugsley I already have that stance. If the gaming aspects can be removed and the question is unchanged, it should be off-topic.

1:52 PM

@OrigamiRobot and yet we allow console-related questions that are entirely unrelated to gaming

@IanPugsley Entirely?

Asking about a gaming console would be related to gaming by definition, no?

@IanPugsley I've already taken that stance.

@GnomeSlice in his mind, entirely (it is not a problem about a game)

We are a site to solve gaming problems.

Not "problems gamers have".

@StrixVaria @OrigamiRobot I don't mean just take it, I mean do something about it on the meta

1:53 PM

@StrixVaria I just don't understand how a question about a gaming console is not a 'gaming problem'.

David B

My first Q here fits that definition: gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/21386/…

A: What is the dividing line between gamer problems that we do and do not cater to?

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This is essentially a reasoning behind Shaun's rule idea, but it's too big for a comment. Solution To reiterate Shaun's solution: These questions are off-topic in all cases, with no exceptions. The rule would be: If the gaming elements can be completely removed from the question, then the ques...

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A: Is this question about general internet security on topic?

I believe that, until a concrete line can be defined, this question is still off-topic. As soon as someone suggests a concrete line that makes sense and will place this question into the on-topic side, we can re-open the question under the new rule, which I will gladly help enforce. I just can'...

I'm in the minority, but I still argue it every time.

@StrixVaria Ouch... I don't think those deserve those scores.

David B

I'd argue that my question (and the answer that was given) adds more awesome to the site.