Root Access

Avery

00:06

Dig deep enough and every company is

Journeyman Geek

00:28

Erf. I was asked to come in at 8. Office is locked till 9

Bob

01:37

morning

@JourneymanGeek weekend? :S

Ramhound

@FranckDernoncourt I am free for 10 minutes

Journeyman Geek

01:59

Alas

Gypsy Spellweaver

02:12

Is that Russian vodka is see in the room?

That Russian Guy

NO DON'T DRINK ME!!!

Gypsy Spellweaver

Wet blanket :(

That Russian Guy

/flees

Bob

@MylesKeating That's nice in theory, but it honestly doesn't cover that many programs on Windows... many of which are cross-platform ports in the first place :P

VMs are of course the traditional way of doing it, with all the associated downsides.

Maybe I've been spoiled by the *nix idea of containers.

(Yea, I do understand the whole thing is hugely complex, and you guys have been amazing in getting it up in the first place. This is more ... ways to make it better? :P)

Speaking of which - two weeks till Stretch! :D

bwDraco

02:59

roar

allquixotic

03:24

@Bob grep /etc/crontab games

Bob

@allquixotic which reminds me, I kinda ... fell asleep last week --_

~9.5 hours from now would be a good time for me. you?

allquixotic

@Bob pretty early for me, but I haven't been staying up too late, so it could definitely work if I put my phone on max volume

it's not stupid early

Bob

@allquixotic eh, ~10-11 would work too :P

allquixotic

just... early for a Saturday morning

Bob

ah

yea, I'm busy for the next 2-3 right now so ...

allquixotic

03:28

k

9.5 hours would be 9 AM for me -- by no means an unacceptable time to wake up; just that if I were allowed to sleep as long as my body wanted, I'd probably sleep until about noon

Bob

@allquixotic ah. that's about 2am for me, which really depends on the day :P

could be asleep by then, in bed, or still fully awake

allquixotic

no need to wait until then

Bob

usually the last happens if I was busy in the hours before

allquixotic

for games I can make an exception, then nap at like 6pm :P

Bob

...like last night. jailbreaking a kindle and all :P

allquixotic

03:32

lol you got a kindle? what kind?

Bob

@allquixotic I've had a PW2 for almost two years, rarely used

finally got around to jailbreaking it

allquixotic

ooh

Bob

(and rebought Windows Internals 7th ed on it, cause the physical book is too big to carry around... probably shouldn't have bought the physical, oh well)

allquixotic

I have the 2013 and 2015 paperwhite laying around somewhere idle; only my mom uses them, and I got her the 2016 Oasis as a present and she loves it

Bob

I usually read on my phone :P

mostly did the jb cause there's one that currently works for the firmware version I had, and is kept on upgrades, but the new firmware blocks it from installing

was more a 'hmm. I miiiiight want it later...'

@allquixotic how's the new one compare?

also the built-in PDF reader sucks

allquixotic

03:36

@Bob smaller total size, better touchscreen, more PPI, significantly more powerful CPU, slightly faster e-ink rendering (more of a generational improvement), same screen size due to very thin bezels, and comes with an included leather sleeve that has a huge extended battery to manage the ridiculously overpowered SoC vs. the tiny on-board battery

(the SoC is still slower than a phone's, but for a Kindle reader it's enormous)

Bob

@allquixotic hm. how's the included web browser? :P

bwDraco

0

Q: Can't access Embedded Web Server on HP Officejet Pro 8630: "System Error"

My HP Officejet Pro 8630 has started giving me this error when I try to access the Embedded Web Server (EWS): System Error An error has occurred. A network reset did not help, Furthermore, the printer hung while I ran a factory reset from the Settings menu, forcing me to manually pow...

allquixotic

@Bob still "experimental", mainly due to the frequent small changes in modern web pages (scrolling, dynamic functionality) being horrible when matched with slow e-ink

bwDraco

Printer is still giving me this error. Trying a manual firmware update...

allquixotic

also it's nowhere near as good as a modern WebKit or Mozilla based browser in terms of feature-set

I'm willing to bet it's intentional

otherwise AT&T wouldn't provide free WhisperSync 3G service to all these Kindles

Bob

03:42

@allquixotic iirc they limited web usage anyway

I just wish it had a reader mode like firefox

bwDraco

Not helping. I'll have to live with it.

Firmware update complete.

Bob

@allquixotic thankfully the ones I read are mostly plain text but iirc scrolling was annoying

I don't think I had a page down option/button :/

anyway. afk. I'll wake you in about 10h :P

allquixotic

03:57

@Bob whenever you're available around 9h from now would be fine

bwDraco

@Avery Never heard of it. Appears to be some low-cost solution for developing regions.

For a while, the 750 EVO was like this, too, before it launched as a full retail product worldwide.

Hmm... so it seems to be the predecessor to the 750 EVO.

Rahul2001

Hey!

My 10th grade results are coming out in 20 minutes, and I am not looking forward to it

bwDraco

anandtech.com/show/11490/…

This... is going a bit overboard. Liquid-cooled PSU?

Requires an existing custom loop, though.

Interesting. With a liquid cooling system installed, the maximum output is boosted from 1200W to 1400W.

(most PSUs can operate beyond their rated wattage, but only for brief periods of time)

Rahul2001

04:13

I got two downvotes, so lost the 2500 rep privileges (nudge, nudge)

Okay, no, I messed my count up, damn maths

Anyway, thanks guys!

Huh, it's time for me to HNQ

SBM

@Rahul2001 hnq? Good morning

Rahul2001

@SBM Hot Network Questions... post something so good that it gets displayed across the SE network

SBM

I don't have a single answer on about 33 StackExchange sites

Rahul2001

STUPID PEOPLE! How do I check my results if your damn website is down? cbseresults.nic.in

No, clippy, not now

Okay, worked

SBM

@Rahul2001 did you appear tenth grade exam?

Rahul2001

04:21

@SBM Yep, I mean, yeah...

SBM

All the best for your results.

Rahul2001

Thanks :)

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 my cousin got me to check her results back in the day cause those websites apparently load faster outside india

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek I'll use my server as a proxy then :D

SBM

04:40

I got my class test results today

bwDraco

PSA: 200 reputation to whoever can fix my printer problem.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco but... You fixed it yourself...

Ah, just saw the end of the answer

SBM

Uh look at the edit.

bwDraco

This is the largest bounty I have ever offered.

Rahul2001

05:06

The whole "deliberately be be mean to your boyfriend for no damn reason" thing that some girls put up is bloody frustrating, makes no sense, and kills the relationship.

@bwDraco Is there an error log or error code available?

bwDraco

Nothing.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco Tried multiple browsers?

bwDraco

I did. Same thing happened in Microsoft Edge.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco Huh, is there a hardware reset switch?

bwDraco

No.

Rahul2001

05:11

#crappydesign :/

Journeyman Geek

the fact that the factory reset helped might absolve the browser...

Rahul2001

@bwDraco Try a different network perhaps?

Also, this?

bwDraco

Already tried that.

Rahul2001

@bwDraco Just to be clear, full factory resets don't work?

bwDraco

It did, but the problem reappeared

Rahul2001

05:18

@bwDraco huh, are you on a wireless network? If so, try Ethernet

SBM

What happens if two users on SE chat have same username and one of them is pinged?

Rahul2001

@SBM There was a meta thread regarding that, iirc

SBM

could you link it?

Rahul2001

Can't look for it now, have like 50MB of data left, google it

Journeyman Geek

06:09

24

Q: How do I ping the right bob?

We have two bobs at the moment. Bob (with the fox avatar) is a long time user, and bob, with the green avatar. I'd like to ping Bob, without bothering bob with my pings. I see two ways to do this - It's trivial for me to get the username - so could we have a way to ping a user by user id numbe...

feature-request support chat ping

SBM

oh thank you

HackToHell

06:57

we have a bob conflict

kernel panic

Rahul2001

Do you know how they could've made the ping thing work? By adding an emoji to the nonexistent URL.

Or using a nonexistent TLD

Or an IP address

The fools! They could've been rich!

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 or letting people ping by userid

Rahul2001

Lol

I like how one of the attackers is female in the comic though

They were supposed to declare the results 3 hours ago, man

Journeyman Geek

07:16

Maybe someone asked for a recount

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek they've been delaying since the 12th of may

bwDraco

@davideneco1 According to my sources, a ThreadRipper 16C/32T (Dies+Package+Testing) cost AMD about 110-120$. 849$-1… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/870388109812355072

Tweeted by BitsAndChipsEng on June 1, 2017 at 9:14 PM in reply to davideneco1

Apparently, AMD is getting insane margins on these processors.

yesterday, by bwDraco

AMD has the margins to do this. It's been reported that they're getting 80+% yield and the die is less than 200 mm^2, so Ryzen isn't all that expensive to manufacture.

(via WCCFtech)

bwDraco

07:40

bitsandchips.it/52-english-news/…

This is the real headline: that AMD is turning a massive profit on every Ryzen processor sold.

Because AMD's engineers cleverly designed the architecture to easily scale out. Infinity Fabric is AMD's trump card, a veritable crown jewel in their semiconductor IP.

Due to Twitter's message limit, I post this link to explain AMD strategy: http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=290705&postcount=594

Tweeted by BitsAndChipsEng on June 1, 2017 at 10:02 PM

> At AMD HQ are still talking about the prices, however this should be the final price (AMD is lowering the 1800X price in order to sell an entry level ThreadRipper 12C/24T @ about 500$). The main problems of this platform are the mainboards (Very expensive) and the RAMs (Also very expensive ... 4 channels).

Expensive motherboards. Probably not avoidable due to the sheer size of the socket (4,094 pins can't possibly be cheap) as well as the need to support 8 DIMMs and 64 PCIe lanes.

For reference...

I lol'd so much when I see people complaining about AMD CPUs production cost ... i7-6950 cost ~170$ i7-7700K cost ~ 60$ etc

Tweeted by BitsAndChipsEng on June 2, 2017 at 11:06 AM

These are all rumors, so take them with a big grain of salt, but chances are good that AMD has a real winner on their hands.

Bob

"a real winner on their hands" you said that last time. And the time before. And the time before.

bwDraco

Ultimately, I'm waiting for benchmarks.

@Bob Am I annoying you?

Bob

Not particularly.

I'm just bored. idk. Just got back home.

Journeyman Geek

07:56

lol

I just got back from work, popped the roomie for a haircut (which he was uncharacteristically annoyed about) and need to pop out for state mandated fitness classes ._.

www.tomshardware.com/news/tex-yoda-ii-mechanical-keyboard-trackball,34645.html

I am vaguely thinking that is super neat

bwDraco

So, I have serious doubts Threadripper will perform at anywhere near the same level as Intel's new HEDT processors, especially given that Intel has the better uarch, faster clocks, and a redone cache structure that further increases IPC. Threadripper's MCM design also brings up potential NUMA issues. However, AMD's lower prices are putting pressure on Intel. Competition is good.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek state mandated... oh that :S

Journeyman Geek

@Bob the joke is. It isn't.

Bob

@bwDraco that'd be interesting to see on a server but still kinda meh for home

though I wouldn't mind seeing some variant of Ryzen replace Avoton :P

@JourneymanGeek it isn't?

Journeyman Geek

The joke is that it isn't a joke, its seriously state mandated.

Bob

08:03

@JourneymanGeek trackball? m8, that ain't a trackball

Journeyman Geek

Its a trackpoint

Its also a mechanical keyboard, with a trackpoint

bwDraco

That said, I'm probably going to use a 6C/12T Ryzen 5 processor for my first custom desktop.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek rather different from a trackball :P

Journeyman Geek

I was too distracted at how pretty the keyboard was ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek so were the reviewers, apparently

bwDraco

08:06

It's 4 AM here. Good night.

Bob

@bwDraco 'night

Journeyman Geek

@Bob hmm, not sure if it wuld replace is, but something in the same cheap, lots of threads. decent ram niche would be nice

Rahul2001

Meh, I scored pretty decent marks

Time for me to hack the result website now

Journeyman Geek

lol

Gypsy Spellweaver

08:22

@JourneymanGeek I like the website and config file idea. Be nicer if the config file could be generated locally instead. Websites tend to disappear too often.

Boris_yo

08:50

What's the difference between CD/DVD/CD-RW Drive boot and UEFI boot from apparently same device?

Journeyman Geek

@GypsySpellweaver chances are it's doable

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Boris_yo Whether or not to use the UEFI checking on the booted media.

@JourneymanGeek Probably. But I'd rather have it up front when getting the KDB, than have to wait for it.

Rahul2001

COVFEFE=Collection Of Very F***ing Excessive Failures Everyday

Bob

@Boris_yo use uefi if your os supports it.

legacy boot is only there for compat

djsmiley2k

10:52

@Boris_yo ah the joys of hp

Rahul2001

11:27

@DavidPostill Are you online? Need help with some batch-fu

This replaces 22 with ": set postText=!postText:%%22="!

How do I make it replace it with !?

Bob

simple answer: you don't

complex answer: you... don't?

(I remember trying that once upon a time. Almost tore my hair out over a couple hours...)

I think end result was a funny mix of delayed and non-delayed expansion...

(so probably something like set postText=%postText:%%22=!%)

but that'd probably trip over the param var

see also: reasons to not use batch/cmd

use a placeholder replacement char and pray to whichever god you believe in that a real string won't contain it

...wait. do you have 22 params?!

wtf

djsmiley2k

and poeople tell me i should use a real language :D

Bob

@djsmiley2k you should

batch is dumb design

PHP is almost malicious design

that said, it probably would handle this situation better

probably

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Huh? What exactly are you trying to do?

Bob

@DavidPostill presumably replace some unknown param with an exclamation mark

oh I remember now

set foobarbatchisdumb=!
set blah=!blah:%%22=%foobarbatchisdumb%!

I think that might work

idk

though there's equal chance that delayed expansion still sees the extra excl

in fact it probably does

yea use a placeholder replacement char :P

DavidPostill

11:36

if not defined foo set foo=!

Bob

@DavidPostill uh. I think he's trying to do the equiv of postText.Replace(args[22], "!")

set postText=!postText:%22=guisFASaDSasd!
set postText=%postText:guisFASaDSasd=!%

completely dumb but it's probably the only feasible way

and yes guisFASaDSasd in this context is just a facesmash random placeholder string

that's ... rather unlikely ... to appear in the real text

DavidPostill

shrug I still don't understand what he is trying to do. A before and after string would help. Along with the appropriate parts of the batch file.

Bob

@DavidPostill hm? I thought the C# pseudocode would've been clear enough :P though that's just my guess

Bob

11:58

@Rahul2001 seems to have disappeared anyway

Nick

blogs.opera.com/news/2015/06/…

How do I do this on chrome?

djsmiley2k

U don't

defalt

12:14

hehe..this question was closed..maybe that time it was not known but now this topic is driving attention

1

Q: What does the Intel Management Engine do?

I've heard many complaints about the Intel Management Engine by Anti-DRM activists, but what does it actually do?

firmware drm

I'm reading the article about this which i find hard to understand

boingboing.net/2016/06/15/intel-x86-processors-ship-with.html

can someone clarify this line of the article: The ME firmware is verified by a secret boot ROM embedded in the chipset that first checks that the SHA256 checksum of the public key matches the one from the factory, and then verifies the RSA signature of the firmware payload by recalculating it and comparing to the stored signature.

I've read it 4-5 times but i'm still not getting how it is verified

Nick

@djsmiley2k ... that sucks....

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill replace all occurances of %21 with exclamation points in the string postText

Boris_yo

12:34

@djsmiley2k Telling by your avatar you seem to be the happiest SU member here. Every time I see you smilin'...

@Bob I have Macrium boot CD-ROM. I wonder if it matters whether you boot it from UEFI or legacy.

djsmiley2k

@Boris_yo :D

Rahul2001

13:22

@Bob no, I'm decoding POST data. ! becomes %22

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 This set postText=!postText:%%22=^^!! should work but doesn't :/

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill :(

DavidPostill

You need delayed expansion (to properly process the %22) but then the documented escape for ! which is ^^! doesn't work inside a variable search/replace expression :/

Rahul2001

13:38

I left a comment on @jeb's post on variable search and replace, let's see if he can come up with something

DavidPostill

The only workaround is to replace twice. First time replace %22 with some guaranteed unique string with delayed expansion on. Second time turn delayed expansion off and replace unique string with !.

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill hm, I think that shouldn't be a problem.

@DavidPostill endlocal is the same as setlocal disabledelayedexpansion?

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Here you go:

@echo off
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
set postText=foo%%22bar%%22baz
echo %postText%
set postText=!postText:%%22=uncledavid!
echo !postText!
setlocal disabledelayedexpansion
set postText=%postText:uncledavid=!%
echo %postText%
endlocal

> test
foo%22bar%22baz
foouncledavidbaruncledavidbaz
foo!bar!baz
>

Note the clever use of the unique string uncledavid ;P

Rahul2001

lol

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Yes. But will also throw away and local variables ...

Rahul2001

13:46

@DavidPostill I can again use delayed expansion after this operation on this string?

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Yes.

Rahul2001

setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
echo %postText%
set postText=!postText:%%21=uncledavid!
echo !postText!
setlocal disabledelayedexpansion
set postText=%postText:uncledavid=!%
echo %postText%
setlocal disabledelayedexpansion

@DavidPostill this should work, yes?

And yet I get this:

hi%21
hiuncledavid
hi%21

This baffles me

Eh, I gtg. Be back in an hour or so.

djsmiley2k

14:04

coventrytelegraph.net/whats-on/whats-on-news/…

if anyone fancys visiting :D

Journeyman Geek

Vincerò

►

Rahul2001

I'm having serious trust issues with Microsoft right now

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 That should work :/

Rahul2001

If you're going to create a scripting language and ship it with ~~millions~~ billions of computers, at least make the effort of creating a decent one

@DavidPostill ...but it doesn't :(

DavidPostill

@echo off
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
set postText=hi%%21
echo %postText%
set postText=!postText:%%21=uncledavid!
echo !postText!
setlocal disabledelayedexpansion
set postText=%postText:uncledavid=!%
echo %postText%
endlocal

Thats works :)

Rahul2001

14:10

@DavidPostill Thanks! Will check in a bit, gtg

Bob

14:30

@DavidPostill you stole my 'technique'! :P

@Rahul2001 ...in other words, you should learn powershell! I know a guy who'd love to teach you...

DavidPostill

@Bob lol. I'm thinking of posting on SO to see if there is a better solution from stackoverflow.com/users/1012053/dbenham

> Hobbies - Pushing Windows batch programming to its limits,

Bob

@DavidPostill I spent a good bit of time looking for one a few years back. Wasn't really worth the effort.

@Boris_yo If you're not installing an OS, it doesn't matter that much. Many boot CDs don't support UEFI yet.

DavidPostill

> the documented escape for ! which is ^^! doesn't work inside a variable search/replace expression

Bob

@DavidPostill that in itself is incredibly ugly :P

DavidPostill

So you can't have % on the left and ! on the right in a variable search/replace

Bob

14:35

like, ^^ gets replaced with ^ at parse time, and then ^! is seen at execution time...

DavidPostill

@Bob Except it doesn't work

Bob

as @JourneymanGeek would put it, batch grew organically

DavidPostill

@Bob I wouldn't care if it is ugly as long as it works

Journeyman Geek

much like mould..... ;p

@DavidPostill elegance in a solution is important too.

Especially if you need to maintain it

DavidPostill

@Bob yeah. mushrooms and bovine excrement spring to mind.

Bob

14:38

set LF=^


rem Previous two lines deliberately left blank for LF to work.

^ from one of my answers, based off a SO answer :P

DavidPostill

Yes. Saw that one :)

Rahul2001

@Bob who uses CDs to install operating systems anymore?

Bob

@Rahul2001 me

Rahul2001

@Bob huh

Bob

@Rahul2001 some boxes don't like USB. some USB don't like boot.

also, VMs basically don't support USB at boot

Rahul2001

14:51

@Bob o.O

djsmiley2k

me

because i'm handed a cd and told that laptop needs reinstalling.

did @Burgi ever wake up :/

That Russian Guy

Some say he's been asleep ever since.

Bob

15:07

@JourneymanGeek daiso has the weirdest things.

*drinks weird grape soft drink in aluminium can with bottle-like lid*

Avery

@Bob @Rahul2001 Actually you can boot to USB on nearly all stuff if you use plop boot manager

Bob

@Avery which means I'd need to carry a CD anyway... meh.

Avery

true

not on VMs though

Faheem Mitha

Hi folks. Had a nightmarish day trying to report that error on the product listings page to Amazon. But maybe most of you weren't here when I talked about it.

Journeyman Geek

hm. bother

I think I left my laptop charger at work

Rahul2001

15:20

@JourneymanGeek The company VENOM specifically gives two chargers with its laptops for this very reason

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 I was debating buying a spare ;p

Rahul2001

Seems sensible, to keep one for home and one at work

Journeyman Geek

annoyingly only harvey norman seems to stock it and there's not one near enough for me to nip over with my current lack of any time

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek internet, dude

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 someone needs to be at home to collect...

DavidPostill

15:22

@JourneymanGeek Looks like you need to go back to work and do some more overtime ;p

Journeyman Geek

parents are away, and its the weekend

@DavidPostill ><

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek neighbours, duh

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 it would be shorter to wait till monday ;p

Rahul2001

There's always a solution, you just need to be smart to figureit out #wisewordsby16yearolds

Journeyman Geek

lol

ask my brother to watch the dog, and buy one

or use my spare laptop till monday

or not use a PC in bed and go the cat to sleep

Rahul2001

15:27

@JourneymanGeek sleep? What's that he says? Can't be talking about him going to sleep, he wouldn't be a geek then, must be talking about his laptop screen...

Wait, why is there no "lol" as a response to that? Did he actually go to sleep? Oh no... This can't be good...

THE MOD IS ASLEEP! MISCHIEF TIME! evil laugh

That Russian Guy

@JourneymanGeek What buying a dog would benefit you?

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill is a coconspirator anyway! Why do you think we made him a mod? smirk

Who am I even blabbering away to?

That Russian Guy

Nobody here but us chickens!

Rahul2001

Yes, yes, chickens! I'm definitely not a robot! Nosir, no! Only us chickens here! 🐔 🐔 🐔 🤖

Faheem Mitha

Would it be fair to say that most of the people here are regulars? It reminds me a little of Cheers. Except without the alcohol. And more computers.

That Russian Guy

15:37

0NLY CH1K3N$

Rahul2001

@FaheemMitha it would be fair to say most of us are regulars, yes. Cheers? Idk what that is.

Faheem Mitha

@Rahul2001 That was a TV show, once upon a time.

Rahul2001

> ~~ROBOT APOCALYPSE TRIGGER ACTIVATED!~~ Chickens are cool!

Faheem Mitha

Well, also an imaginary bar, within the show. A sitcom, to be more precise.

Rahul2001

Alcohol!! 🍺 🍺 🍷 🍷 🍾 🍾 Unfortunately, I need to wait for 9 years to be able to drink legally.

That Russian Guy

15:42

@Rahul2001 Wait, you can only drink at TWENTY FIVE?!?!?!?!

Rahul2001

@ThatRussianGuy yeah. Goddamn Indian laws.

That Russian Guy

And they only let you look at porn when you're 52 years old?

Faheem Mitha

Indian laws?

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 probably for the best, most people are retarded about alcohol before mid-20s...

Faheem Mitha

Wow, the drinking age in India is 25?

jokerdino

15:44

lies

Ben N

I thought it depended on the particular drink

jokerdino

Yeah, milk and water no problem at any age

Ben N

I was thinking wine vs. beer; someone told me one of those can be had earlier in some places

DavidPostill

@BenN It (like the US) all depends on which state you live in.

Faheem Mitha

@Rahul2001 I'm puzzled. Since when does anyone in India pay any attention to the laws?

DavidPostill

15:46

Alcohol laws of India

The legal drinking age in India and the laws which regulate the sale and consumption of alcohol vary significantly from state to state. In India, consumption of alcohol is prohibited in the states of Gujarat, Bihar, Manipur and Nagaland as well as the union territory of Lakshadweep. The Kerala government has planned to implement almost full prohibition of hard liquor in a phased manner, which will take 10 years starting from third quarter of 2014. All other Indian states permit alcohol consumption but fix a legal drinking age, which ranges at different ages per region. In some states, the legal...

Ben N

Ah

DavidPostill

> All other Indian states permit alcohol consumption but fix a legal drinking age, which ranges at different ages per region. In some states, the legal drinking age can be different for different types of alcoholic beverage.

jokerdino

@FaheemMitha ouch

Mokubai

@DavidPostill Well, that narrows down where @Rahul2001 lives by quite a bit.

jokerdino

It's not hard

Faheem Mitha

15:48

@jokerdino Speaking from first-hand experience.

jokerdino

He kinda already mentioned where he lives.

Mokubai

Yeah, but for those of us who like a bit of mystery and prefer for people to be "over that way, geographically" rather than knowing exact coordinates....

@DavidPostill for example is "up north" as far as I'm concerned....

Faheem Mitha

I didn't know that Kerala plans to ban alcohol. I'm sure that will end well.

DavidPostill

@Mokubai lol. my profile narrows it down a bit. ;p

Faheem Mitha

> Kerala has India's highest per capita alcohol consumption at more than eight litres per person yearly.

Mokubai

15:51

Too precise. You are a northerner. :P

DavidPostill

No barmaids in Punjabi pubs then ...

Faheem Mitha

That actually seems like of low. But I suppose a lot of people don't drink at all.

jokerdino

women probably bringing the average down by half or so

That Russian Guy

@Mokubai I live over that way, there with the americas

DavidPostill

List of countries by alcohol consumption per capita

This is a list of countries by alcohol consumption measured in equivalent litres of pure ethanol consumed per capita per year. == WHO Data == The WHO publish periodically The Global Status Report on Alcohol: 1999 was first published by WHO in 1999. 2004 is the second global status report on alcohol published by WHO 2011 third global report on alcohol published by WHO 2014 fourth global report on alcohol published by WHO with data from 2010 === 2010 WHO data === The table below for about 190 countries uses 2010 data from the WHO report published in 2014. The methodology used by the WHO calculated...

jokerdino

15:55

Nice bot we have in this room.

DavidPostill

lol

That Russian Guy

@DavidPostill Russia wins?

jokerdino

@DavidPostill no surprise at the bottom dwellers.

That Russian Guy

Yeah, Russia is top 5, following ex-URSS republics.

Rahul2001

@Mokubai yeah, you guys just doxxed me :/

DavidPostill

15:59

@jokerdino Hmm. The bottom dwellers should be zero ...

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