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00:25
@GFSE i like the tags he used
nn all
Night
good morning
good mornevenight
I'm so hungry. It's time to go to have breakfast.
00:39
I'm so breakfast. It's time to go hungry.
Bob
Bob
@MylesKeating Ha, I've seen the full spectrum of MVPs (from "let's copy-paste scripted answers!" to Jon Skeet) ... not entirely sure the qualification means much :P But yea you do need a front line of some sort.
As for Containers... I wonder if they'll ever be a viable Sandboxie replacement.
At least on Linux (LXD) they're a good way to test things out without messing with the rest of the system.
But seeing as they currently don't support graphical programs on Windows...
Then again, graphical programs aren't naturally implemented with a remote (X) server on Windows :P
Hi!
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Hi?
@Bob yup
Sneaking into classes, taking inventory yo
00:48
Hunger is what I hate the most and is the trouble I have the most frequently. I wish I have a machine to solve my hunger every seveal hours.
@CaptainBohemian There's one called "fridge". It's amazing!
I just hate the need to go hunt for food so frequently.
Hunt? Well, in your case, I suggest another machine then: a time machine!
Well, fridge is not enough. You need a machine to make food hot after putting it in the fridge. Icy lunchbox doesn't taste good at all.
 
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02:07
@bwDraco you around?
> 3. On an SMT system, any non-idle SMT sets are removed, even if this might cause the elimination of the ideal processor itself. In other words, Windows prioritizes a non-ideal, idle SMT set over an ideal processor.
4. Windows checks whether the ideal processor is among the remaining set of idle processors. If not, it must then find the most appropriate idle processor. To do this, it first checks whether the processor that the thread last ran on is part of the remaining idle set. If so, it considers this processor to be a temporary ideal processor and selects it. (Recall that the ideal pro
In other words, Windows tries pretty hard to pick the processor that causes minimal cache misses.
But it also won't preempt/move a thread that has higher or equal priority just to preserve a process' affinity (explicit or implicit).
And it will prefer a move to a different processor rather than leaving it to sit idle.
I'm pretty sure Linux does something similar but it's been a while since I last looked at its scheduling.
02:24
@Bob Just finished assembling some furniture.
Also, the Bluetooth subsystem on Bifrons unexpectedly crashed, forcing me to reboot.
@ThatRussianGuy lol
I have OTG cables for precisely this reason.
Attaching HDDs?
I've powered USB-attached SSDs this way.
Bob
Bob
@bwDraco ^ the bit about Windows scheduling above is a continuation of earlier Ryzen-related discussion... now that I finally have that Internals book :P
02:26
That is awfully complicated.
Scheduling on an SMP system is so damn complex.
Bob
Bob
@bwDraco It's just a combination of the complexity of scheduling in general, and multithreaded programming in general :P
It's hard to decide which is the most optimal thread/processor, especially considering you want to minimise cycles wasted on making a decision.
500 GB Samsung SSD 850 EVO > generic USB 3.0 enclosure (supports only SATA 3 Gb/s speeds, so tops out at about 250 MB/s) > USB cable > USB-OTG or Type-C adapter > phone/tablet
Bob
Bob
hmm. curious.
@JourneymanGeek I'm not seeing a feed link on this page blog.online.net
but
So... looks like I need to start checking the source for feed links :P
Bob
Bob
O_O
Looks like ttrss is smart enough to realise
if you just chuck it the main page
THIS. CHANGES. EVERYTHING.
02:44
Man... changing addresses is a pain
Bob
Bob
> ¹ If you can get 2 billion threads to wait on a futex, then I'm both impressed and disappointed. Impressed that you were able to create 2 billion threads in the first place, and disappointed that you have a futex so hot that you managed to get 2 billion threads waiting on it. You should fix that.
02:56
hesvily raining...
heavily raining...
 
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04:03
O.O
lol
I cannot escape it
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Q: I would like some clarification on how to fix the "stuck" JAR association with windows explorer

TheGreatDuckThis question is a follow-up in response to this question: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7235228/java-jar-open-with-windows-explorer-continually-spawns-explorer-processes. I have the same problem and now wish to not know why it happens but rather how to make it stop! Apparently, sometime i...

^^i need help please
 
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05:31
hiiii
Bob
Bob
midddd
That should cover from top to bottom and everything in between :)
@ThatRussianGuy Seriously? You never knew of the mobile site?
Memory compression FTW!
 
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07:12
174
Q: Covfefify a string

Destructible LemonIn this challenge, you must take a string matching the regex ^[a-z]+$ or ^[A-Z]+$, or ^[A-Z][a-z]+$ or whatever is reasonable, (you may assume the string is long enough, and has the right structure for all the operations), and output another string, produced similarly to word at the end of a rece...

o.O
oh dear
this is getting kinda sad
@TheGreatDuck done :p
Hello
@Bob saw that yesterday, it's quite an interesting challenge.
07:47
morning
Bob
Bob
08:13
'lo
Mornin
i've seen that on HNQ. the guy is overthinking the exchange
if i got a an email from a recruiter saying " 'sup fam, i has jobz 4 u" i'd just delete it and move on with my life
hell i delete all recruiter emails anyway
08:34
:)
@Burgi I usually write them back, telling them to suck it and that I will never consider their agency when we're looking for talent
It only takes 1 minute and it's a great stress relief
Bob
Bob
09:07
@OliverSalzburg if you're feeling particularly vindictive, complete some surveys for free spam iPhones with their email address
@Bob You are a genius
I bet people are doing that to me O___O
09:29
speaking of emails...
are unicode emails valid?
and by extension of that can i have an emjoi email address?
@Burgi You can not
I looked into it
At least that is what I concluded at the time
but unicode emails are fine?
@Burgi You mean the content?
no, i mean the address itself
Then say that :D
No, they are not fine. You can have a punycode encoded host part on the address
But you can't punycode the name part the same way
09:32
ah it was the host bit i was wondering about
That works fine
We host the email services for one of our clients who has an umlaut in their domain
It's annoying
i was about to ask about germany specifically
It's common practice (at least for us) to have "both" domain names. As in, if you had müller.de, you'd also get mueller.de and then forward the first to the second
have you mapped the none umlaut version to their site?
ITS LIKE YOU ARE READING MY MIND!!!!!
There are a lot of people who don't know that you can use umlauts in domains and they will auto-convert ü → ue in their head
So it's usually not viable to only have one of the domains
09:36
would you also get muller.de for english speakers?
And you never forward non-umlaut → umlaut unless you want trouble. Never make the umlaut version the default :P
@Burgi No, that is not a valid substitute. But some companies would chose to get it anyway to catch typos or whatnot
It's not a strict substitute, more like getting gogle.de or gooogle.de
And prepare yourself for all the "This is not a valid email address" errors you will see with an umlaut address :(
now i didn't know about the umault to ue thing, i'd have just used a lowercase u
> lulz at poop cake tear-eyed-smiley-face dot ws is so valid
we have a non-standard TLD and run into it all the time ;)
@Burgi Global players will have the ü → u converted domains more commonly
Not the bakery next door though
09:59
Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
(semi-removed)
@HenryWHHackv2.0 I was
10:02
@OliverSalzburg xn--vi8hiv.ws
@OliverSalzburg I knew it.
@Rahul2001 Site seems broken
Probably uBlock messing it up
@OliverSalzburg yeah, used to work
Oct 7 '16 at 17:22, by Rahul2001
Seriously though, this is a real URL: http://🍐🌊🍩🐱🍎🎣🍈🍵.🍕💩.ws/
@OliverSalzburg no, broken for me too
I read the other day something about .ws and their radical emoji ways
Here we go
if marketing people find out about emoji domain names, we are in trouble
10:11
It is my understanding that only .ws allows them
Yea, it's only .ws that'll do it.
And getting those sneaky fake named domains is also hard af
@OliverSalzburg Wait, I'll try to make a subdomain with emoji on .tech, .in, .com, and .club and report back
Like those unicode paypaI.com like addresses
I tried to reg some the other day and was not able to
10:18
Pf, form validation
Just POST straight to their HTTP endpoints
Give them those pentests they're obviously asking for
Haha, letmetry
https://rahul.tech/😀/
Heh, chat is broken!
SBM
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10:29
Oh
@Rahul2001 hello
@SBM yo!
SBM
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How do you type any unicode sequence on Windows?
my hosting provider doesn't allow emoji subdomains either
@SBM Windows touch-keyboard
@Rahul2001 i'm touching my keyboard but it isn't working!!!!
SBM
SBM
10:33
@Rahul2001 I know about emoji's I'm asking about how to type something like U+1600 ?
or U+somehex
@SBM Alt codes. Google 'em!
hold alt and type the numbers on the numpad
@Burgi actually, you need to prefix '+'
SBM
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' '😉
@satibel i didn't for the ™
10:35
@Bob probably a young guy that wants a casual job atmosphere filtering out non casual people.
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@Burgi but is that the decimal equivalent?
@Burgi alt codes use ansi codes I think.
shrug
code page 850 exactly
Code page 850 (also known as CP 850, IBM 00850, OEM 850, DOS Latin 1) is a code page used under DOS in Western Europe. Depending on the country setting and system configuration, code page 850 is the primary code page and default OEM code page in many countries, including various English-speaking locales (e.g. in the United Kingdom, Ireland, and Canada), whilst other English-speaking locales (like the United States) default to use the hardware code page 437. Systems largely replaced code page 850 with, first, Windows-1252 (often mislabeled as ISO-8859-1), and later with UCS-2, and finally with UTF...
you can prefix with 0 to get code page 1252
Windows-1252 or CP-1252 is a 1 byte character encoding of the Latin alphabet, used by default in the legacy components of Microsoft Windows in English and some other Western languages. It is one version within the group of Windows code pages. == Details == This character encoding is a superset of ISO 8859-1 in terms of printable characters, but differs from the IANA's ISO-8859-1 by using displayable characters rather than control characters in the 80 to 9F (hex) range. Notable additional characters include curly quotation marks and all the printable characters that are in ISO 8859-15 (at different...
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Isn't there a way to type Unicode straightaway
10:40
@SBM charmap, perhaps?
SBM
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like the <C-S-U> on some systems
@Rahul2001 thank you
@SBM :D
I NEED HELP WITH JS!
SBM
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ok
@SBM You know js?
SBM
SBM
@Rahul2001 I'm a newbie but I could try
10:41
Heh, I need a bookmarklet which takes input and then sends it via POST
@Rahul2001 I IS JS XPERT
@OliverSalzburg halp!
SBM
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haha
@Rahul2001
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Q: Storing a HTTP POST request in a bookmark or something similar as you would with a GET request

PetruzaYou can store a bookmark with a GET request like this: http://url.com/service?variable=value Can you store a POST request in some way in Chrome? Maybe with a plugin? Or maybe in Firefox? The idea is that I store this in a bookmark and fire it quickly instead of having to fill up a form every ...

2
Q: JavaScript form prompt bookmark with input for Firefox

DeanI'd like to create a bookmark for use in the toolbar of Firefox that opens a JavaScript prompt window once clicked, and asks for user input. Firstly, is this possible to do? Secondly, how can I submit a JS input field to a specific PHP page for processing? Thanks

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10:47
the second link is more like what I was thinking; use a prompt() method for user input
in VS2015 there is a thing called.... wait my kb has gone yankee
ok fixed
in VS2015 there is a thing called "code metrics" what does it do and how is it useful?
@Burgi Measure how crap your code is :)
10:51
56
A: Code Metrics Calculation in Visual Studio

John FeminellaThe theoretically optimal values are: Maintainability index: 100. Higher values indicate better maintainability. Cyclomatic complexity: 1. The number of different paths that code can take. Depth of inheritance: 1. The number of class definitions above this one in the inheritance tree, not inclu...

@Burgi Code Metrics Values should answer all your dumb questions ;p
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@Burgi Sadly I can't upgrade my OS to install VS
@SBM VS2015 works on windows 7
Pf VS2015 is so 2015!
@DavidPostill i have a page with a cyclomatic complexity of 89....
10:53
@Burgi Call a doctor. Stat
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@Burgi VS 2017 doesn't
@SBM but why not just use 2015?
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Ok
@Burgi Refactor
not allowed
the customer won't pay for refactoring
10:54
Refactoring ... not all.... I'd quit.
oops
They WILL pay for refactoring - whether they want to or not - either with more development time for fixes/features or letting you fix your technical debt
lets try that again without the customer name in there
Project: AnnoyingProject
Configuration: Debug
Scope: Type
Type: Base
Maintainability Index: 48
Cyclomatic Complexity: 89
Depth of Inheritance: 7
Class Coupling: 34
Lines of Code: 145
10:56
BTW guys I am presently riding the commuter train that I used to take to college some 10 years ago, except I'm going further down the line all the way to D.C. instead of just to college... for work
Blast from the past, this train has the same coaches they had then, built in the early 80s in Japan :P
Cars older than me and still going good
pffft, try catching a train in the UK, some date back to the victorian age...
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horrible squalid things
They keep these in pretty good condition; the air filter smells like it has the same colony of bacteria growing in it since the 90s, but the seats and aisles are clean
11:00
@allquixotic lol
> Commuters in Merseyside are travelling on trains which are on average 36.3 years old compared to those operated by First Great Western at 32.2 years.
@allquixotic we wouldn't refactor this site anyway. its cheaper to bin it and start again
> The average age of trains across the country is 20.2 years – and is worse for those outside of the South East, according to data from the Office of Rail and Road (ORR).
The British Rail Class 483 electrical multiple units were originally built as 1938 tube stock units for London Underground. They were extensively refurbished between 1989 and 1992 by Eastleigh Works, for use on services on the Isle of Wight's Island Line. This was despite having already worked for nearly 50 years on the London Underground. The units replaced the even older and life-expired Class 485 and Class 486 units, which were introduced in 1967, but were originally built as 'Standard' stock units for the London Electric Railway in 1923. The stock is around 80 years old, making it the oldest...
They replaced our locomotives with new ones. The old ones had mechanical problems and were inefficient. But the coaches have only been added to, they don't seem to be in a hurry to retire the old ones
@DavidPostill i like how the echo uses the same theme/layout as the MEN
SBM
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11:03
MEN?
Btw the train is infinitely better than any other way to get into D.C. if you ever visit. Driving in DC is hugely risky, annoying, slow, and costly (likely to get a ticket from an automated ticket dispenser machine that gives you a $50 ticket for going 1 mph over the speed limit)
@allquixotic i saw a youtube video that explained that commuter trains in america just don't work properly
@SBM Manchester Evening News is my guess
@allquixotic risky?
@Burgi they do here? Lol
@Burgi yes - likely to hit a closed road and have no idea where you're going. And the drivers are hilariously inept - an accident every 3-6 months of commuting daily isn't unusual
@Burgi it's more the long distance trains that are broken in terms of their (lack of) funding, lack of ridership, and ridiculous prices
@Burgi They are both owned by Trinity Mirror
Yeah - he's not wrong but that's Amtrak, they have ridiculously high operating costs and only one profitable route
@DavidPostill ah!
11:08
My commuter train is owned by the state of Maryland and goes between D.C. and Baltimore
It's not nearly as costly as Amtrak because ridership is growing
And fares are average $6-$7 for a one way ticket
It runs mostly on track owned by CSX freight :P
(They have to pay CSX for the privilege)
@allquixotic thats comparable to the UK (liverpool-manchester)
Bob
Bob
11:21
@SBM ...yes it does. I run VS 2017 on Windows 7 at work. It works fine...
metro in paris is gr... the line is closed because of reasons outside of our control.
lol
e.g. damn suicidal people.
and trees.
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@Bob Oh
Bob
Bob
yea if you hear about someone getting "injured" on a train 9 times out of 10 it's a suicide attempt :\
11:27
@satibel wait... the metro is underground how do trees commit suicide on the metro line?
@Bob and the other 9 out of 10 times it's united airlinesing.
@Burgi some of it is not
ah so the trees crowd around the open areas and queue up to jump in front of a train
that's how it goes.
but mostly damn humans.
so I literally did a 11 hour day. Not counting the 20 minutes or so I had for lunch.
you get overtime right?
11:31
nope
._.
let's brighten your day with this sweet melody
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ... :S
@Bob yeah, and working sat.
Bob
Bob
@satibel that belongs in the trash
@Bob probably.
11:38
I actually seem to think asking people to work OT without OT pay might be illegal here
@JourneymanGeek at least in france it is.
but shrug
I'll go apply places over weekends
Handling interviews might be tricky tho
@JourneymanGeek take a few days off?
No leave when you're on probation
true
11:40
Unless you somehow manage to get no pay leave
@JourneymanGeek say you have a doctors appointment
@Burgi that would need proof
really?
Yup
In fact...
these guys have a policy that any medical certs need to be at a specific nearby government clinic, and handed over personally if possible
well, you can ask for compensation of your unpaid overtime.
11:43
in the UK/europe its none of their business but dr's stuff is unpaid
In theory I could just go "I have some personal matters to attend to"
or feign illness (stomach bug)
same thing tho
oh
and the baking school kitchen still smells like puke
@JourneymanGeek eat there, be sick, win?
+1
11:56
𝔂𝓮𝓪𝓱 𝓫𝓪𝓫𝔂
@JourneymanGeek How many hours a day does your contract say you should be working?
@Rahul2001 Make that a .com please
44 hours a week
> Overtime pay

Overtime work is all work in excess of the normal hours of work (excluding breaks).

You can claim overtime if you are:

A non-workman earning up to $2,500.
A workman earning up to $4,500.

The overtime rate payable for non-workmen is capped at the salary level of $2,250, or an hourly rate of $11.80.

For overtime work, your employer must pay you at least 1.5 times the hourly basic rate of pay. Payment must be made within 14 days after the last day of the salary period.
Your employer must pay you overtime.
> Note: If you are not a shift worker but agree to work up to 12 hours a day, and not exceeding an average of 44 hours over any 3 continuous weeks, you must:

Give your consent in writing.
Have the provisions of Sections 38 and 40 of the Employment Act explained to you.
Be informed of your daily working hours, number of working days in each week and weekly rest day.
WTF!? My trackpad just stopped working
Damnit ELAN
12:08
I don't know if I'm a workman or not
and I'm pretty sure they're relying on the fact most people are not going to rock the boat on that
> Who is covered under Part IV

Part IV of the Employment Act, which provides for rest days, hours of work, annual leave and other conditions of service, only applies to:

A workman (doing manual labour) earning a basic monthly salary of not more than $4,500.
An employee who is not a workman, but who is covered by the Employment Act and earns a monthly basic salary of not more than $2,500.

Part IV of the Act does not cover all managers or executives.

Note: Basic salary excludes payment of overtime, bonus, annual wage supplement, productivity incentive payment, reimbursement for special ex
oh
that's clever
my job title is IT executive
and I make exactly 2500
@Rahul2001 mine does that too :/
i hit it a bit and it starts working agian
> Who is a manager or executive

In general, managers and executives are employees with executive and supervisory functions.

Their duties and authority may include one or all of the following:

Influencing or making decisions on issues such as recruitment, discipline, termination of employment, performance assessment and reward.
Formulating strategies and policies of the enterprise.
Managing and running the business.

They also include professionals with tertiary education and specialised knowledge or skills whose employment terms are like those of managers or executives. For example, lawy
Does that cover your job description?
no idea
I mostly seem to move hardware around :(
12:13
@JourneymanGeek That's Manual Labour :)
paying a guy 2.5k to move stuff around seems expensive.
> If you come across any non-compliant employers, you can:

Report an Employment Act violation
Call our hotline: 1800 221 9922
Monday to Friday: 8.30am to 5.30pm
Saturday: 8.30am to 1pm
Closed on Sunday and public holidays
Email [email protected]

Your identity will be kept strictly confidential.
@satibel I hardly ever end up sitting down. ...
@DavidPostill kinda tempted but I'd probably do that when I have something else in hand
@JourneymanGeek Call the hotline and ask.
(Ok, so total stockholm syndrome, being jobless and miserable for the past year to... being employed and miserable for the past month)
12:16
Your salary would more than double if they had to pay you overtime :)
@Rahul2001 I have used the mobile site on a phone before. I didn't know about the switch on the bottom right of the desktop site. And I assumed it was being asked of some app-based SE chat.
ah
𝖍𝖙𝖙𝖕𝖘://𝖗𝖆𝖍𝖚𝖑.𝖙𝖊𝖈𝖍!
Now that I think about it, IIRC there is a third-party SE chat app...
@JourneymanGeek Again?
12:18
hmm
@ThatRussianGuy every day. Twice if its a weekday ending with Y
@ThatRussianGuy was... doesn't work anymore
@JourneymanGeek lol
@DavidPostill hm. APPARENTLY the 44 hours a week excludes lunch...
I didn't know that
so in theory I do need to work saturdays if I didn't work past 6 every day...
You know, you need a job where you do actual tech stuff. If only for when you land an interview for your dream job and they ask "tell us about your last jobs".
neither did my workplace I suppose
@ThatRussianGuy I do
@ThatRussianGuy my dream job is SE community manager at this point, and looks like they are not hiring for now :(
@JourneymanGeek Well, in Brazil the typical "8 hrs per day" are 9 am - 6 pm (or 8 AM - 5 PM) - it excludes 1 hr for lunch
12:21
> Employers who require their employees to work more than 12 hours a day or more than 72 hours of overtime a month will have to apply to the Ministry for exemption. Under the Workplace Safety and Health (WSH) Act, employers must conduct proper risk assessment of the jobs.

Exemption may be given when jobs are assessed by MOM to be low risk, taking into consideration factors such as safety, the company's employment records as well as views of both workers and unions. Even when such exemptions are granted, employers should not compel employees to work overtime.
How many overtime hours have you worked in the last month?
oh. I've been sucessfully avoiding it till this week
@DavidPostill "mom.gov.sg" if you don't employ me fairly, I'll call mom!
I'm probably going to have a word with my boss, and point out HR warned me about it in my first week if it keeps up
Interviewer: So, tell us about your past jobs.
JMG: Job1: Moved stuff around
     Job2: Moved stuff around; crappy pay
     Job3: Moved stuff around; crappy pay; smelled like puke
Interviewer: Uhhhh....
actually...
Job 1, I ran the IT setup for a small engineering firm, job 2, I worked visual effects.
Job 3 and 4 yeah...
12:24
you seem like a perfect fit for our company!
how low are you willing to get payed?
in less annoying news...
the pastry school still smells like puke, and it turns out you can load the whole thing on a few trucks...
job one: till boy, job 2: trolley boy, job 3: selling computer games, job 4: supporting a pharacmacy companies shops, job 5: IT guy for small company, job 6: monitoring water, job 7: fixing power company customer records, job 8: what do I do again?
Halo
new job @JourneymanGeek ?
Or not
@HackToHell Doom
12:33
@HackToHell the one that I've been complaining about a while
The puke thing is news to me
@JourneymanGeek ah
@ThatRussianGuy I might have mentioned parts of it in the tavern
@ThatRussianGuy hehe, everyone knows your name!
12:34
oops
Accidental DOXX
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 2 days ago, by Journeyman Geek
they just stripped down a classroom and painted it baby poop yellow and smelling of puke...
@ThatRussianGuy Pro tip: trash 2 or more messages, so that none are readable in the trash room.
or edit it, ping me (or remind me to edit and nuke it)
Huh, one sec
12:36
@Rahul2001 I moved four messages, all are readable in the trash room
@JourneymanGeek hey, today is friday :p
@ThatRussianGuy huh, pretty sure that used to work
I got a Kaby Lake processor in my laptop \m/
It's has hardware VP9 decoding
Stupid thing I am excited about
12:52
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