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12:00 AM
And we already have a collection post for the Sukkos questions.
@mevaqesh I heard you. You suggested that I flag it as NAA and I did.
@mevaqesh I don't see why "general linguistic parameters" should be "the determinant for kashrut categories." In fact, given Devarim 14:9, I think the starting point is that there is no distinction.
I think it's somewhat ridiculous to assume, without basis, that there is a category that was not mentioned in that parsha.
@DonielF Ok. I see now. A comment could be helpful as well...
Are there different kosher rules for (random example) bony fish vs non-bony fish? They are different, after all.
Or, better example, different rules for שרצים, which is a category of animal that the Torah recognizes (for טומאה וטהרה)?
@DonielF In fact SabbaHillel just reviewed it and marked it OK, even though the OP identified it as a non-answer to his question. Commenting might increase the chances of others understanding why it is a non-answer.
@Shokhet It shouldn't. Of course. But there is a difference between a non-answer and a wrong answer.
@Shokhet I agree. Why are you telling me this.
@Shokhet Are you still talking to me? How does this relate to my comments?
12:06 AM
@mevaqesh I might not have flagged it as NAA if the answer spelled those assumptions out. I sincerely doubt that your construction is what Seh intended....I think they meant what they said, and misunderstood the question because of the (admittedly) unclear title.
@Shokhet It is certainly possible.
@mevaqesh Your explanation of Seh's answer was, essentially, that 1) we find this distinction in a Torah source 2) let's apply this to the rules of identifying kosher species. I think that it makes no sense to move to step 2 without an explicit source, especially given the simple reading of Devarim 14.
@mevaqesh I really don't think they meant all this. I think you're reading too much into that post.
@Shokhet "Your explanation of Seh's answer was, essentially, that 1) we find this distinction in a Torah source" I have no idea what you are talking about. I don't remember indicating that. (I might have forgotten something in the thread...)
I may have misunderstood your intent. You wrote that "it is implicit that the poster assumes that the general linguistic parameters are the determinant for kashrut categories." I think the assumption is ridiculous, and there is no reason to read the answer in a way that implies all this.
Like I said before to Isaac, I think it's a lovely answer to a different question; it's still completely irrelevant to my question.
gtg. Maybe we can continue this later....
@Shokhet How do you get from there to "we find this distinction in a Torah source" It appears you misunderstood me. To reiterate: it seems like a very poor answer that makes incorrect assumptions, and ultimately is probably a non-answer as it is only relevant to behema vs. haya, which wasnt asked.
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1:59 AM
I wonder if it makes more sense to develop the sukkot as an addition to the days of awe, and make it a tishrei booklet
2:12 AM
@DoubleAA long length doesn't make a booklet you want people to print up more fit, I think. I'd be more in favor of doing Sukkot and then maybe some day bringing it and DoA (etc.) together to a publisher to publish as a bound book
2:24 AM
@IsaacMoses I agree with this. People are more likely to print a new ~50-page book than to print a combined 100-page book, especially if they already have DOA.
I just posted a suggestion on the Sukkot meta question to broaden the scope. The idea started out as how-to, but we have other Sukkot questions too, so how does the community feel about a broader scope?
I hope to one day do the parsha books (one at a time, not necessarily consecutively), but we'll need more work to see if we've got decent coverage for all 54.
2:44 AM
@IsaacMoses @DoubleAA @msh210 I received an answer to the email I sent to the kollel. They are making kinyanim every day or so via kinyan sudar (Google tells me that's the handkerchief kinyan, like at a wedding) via a sh'liach, and that buying a share in the mother automatically confers partial ownership of the offspring (and thus access to the mitzvah).
Also, that care and feeding has already been arranged (I'm not liable for a surprise veterinary bill, for example) and shareholders grant decision-making authority to the primary buyer.
About care and feeding, they said they sent the caretaker a check to cover this cost on the advice of Rabbi Shlomo Miller, who they say is a respected posek in Toronto. (He's named on the web site, too.)
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4:04 AM
posted on May 09, 2017

Today is twenty-eight days, which is four weeks of the Omer. Today's attribute: Malchus ShebeNetzach

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5:48 AM
@MonicaCellio whaddaya mean by "one at a time"? Each parasha gets its own?
6:42 AM
@msh210 I think she meant each sefer, instead of doing the whole Torah right off the bat.
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12:07 PM
@MonicaCellio The only portions with less than 10 questions are Tzav (7), Behar (7), and Vezot HaBerakha (6). (If you count Veyelekh as its own, then it (4) and Nitzavim (7) also each have less than 10.)
1:07 PM
@msh210 sefer, not parsha. Each sefer has 10-12 parshiyot, so if each parsha generates an average of 3-4 pages in a publication (which feels about right), that's a book size we've handled before. If we eventually do them all and we want to proceed to a single print volume, we'll be in a better position to do so.
@DoubleAA thanks. The harder part to evaluate is if we have enough good questions with good answers in each parsha. msh210 wrote a SEDE query (noted in a comment on the meta post) that will help with that. But at some point we need to start reading to see what we've got.
@MonicaCellio Most likely, there are a few holes. If we start a project like this without a deadline at first, we can invest the time to induce people to fill those holes. I strongly suspect that pretty much anyone who frequents this room could sit down with a parsha, learn it however they like to learn it for a while, and come up with a couple of interesting questions to post, if we put our minds to it.
@MonicaCellio Thanks for the info!
1:34 PM
Not to preclude continued discussion in here, but I'm going to spout some ideas in this dedicated room and invite anyone else interested to do so.
2:23 PM
@IsaacMoses agreed. That's how the Sukkot project started, and I see no reason not to go ahead and start question collection for this one. (But I'll wait a bit to avoid drawing attention away from the Sukkot project.)
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5:04 PM
@MonicaCellio: I think this was an oversight. I'm checking to see if we can add mi.yodeya.com as a redirect. Do you know if there are any other subdomains that people might use? I can't imagine any, but just in case. . . — Jon Ericson ♦ 14 mins ago
@IsaacMoses no other subdomains, right?
@MonicaCellio i think bam.yodeya.com used to direct here
Jul 26 '13 at 10:20, by Isaac Moses
@Shog9 IMPO, *.miyodeya.com are unnecessary. miyodeya.com itself is an alternate URL, and I think it's unlikely that anyone would try to use subdomains of it as shortcuts. bam.yodeya.com and chat.yodeya.com are useful shortcuts to get to this chatroom; I'd be inclined to keep both. me.yodeya.com is a misspelling-catcher for mi.yodeya.com; not sure how important it is to maintain that.
there used to be lo.yodeya.com but i don't know if that was ever set to send to meta.MY
oh and launchparty.yodeya.com judaism.meta.stackexchange.com/q/1142/759 but i don't think we need to support that anymore
Q: What happened to Lo.yodeya.com?

Shmuel BrinBased on http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/468?m=1934355#1934355 Is http://lo.yodeya.com/ still connected to judaism.se? If yes, why is it not used?

and there was ani.yodeya.com at some point though i don't recall what for
(For the non Hebrew speakers "mi yodeya" means "who knows?", "ani yodeya" means "i know" and "lo yodeya" means "[i] don't know".)
@DoubleAA Thanks for digging all that up.
To recap and provide my current opinion, I recommend that SO maintain the following URLs:
- yodeya.com -> judaism.stackexchange.com/ (Note trailing /, indicating wildcard for all subdirectories)
- mi.yodeya.com -> judaism.stackexchange.com/
- miyodeya.com -> judaism.stackexchange.com/
- bam.yodeya.com -> chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/468/vdibarta-bam
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@IsaacMoses not chat.yodeya.com too?
@IsaacMoses I'll pass those along.
@DoubleAA Is anyone accustomed to using that?
Plus the two s.tk links
5:45 PM
@JonEricson Thanks very much for all your help on this
@JonEricson thank you.
@IsaacMoses i don't know but it's intuitive and may be useful
i guess i don't know how much effort it is to add one more subdomain. if it's just a bigger text file then add it. if it's an extra $50/month then foggetabowtit.
@DoubleAA I have no objection, but don't see a compelling need
@DoubleAA Jon has to physically run each packet over from the one machine to the other.
@msh210 in that case i don't see problem adding it then
5:48 PM
@DoubleAA Most likely, closer to the former, but it might mean N more clicks each time SO decides to make a change in settings, migrates to a new name service, vel sim.
I just got word that we can do *.yodeya.com which includes arbitrary subdomains. We can do meta.*yodeya.com/* and chat.*yodeya.com/* without exceeding the limits. But I think bam.yodeya.com will redirect to the main site unless you want to eliminate the general chat (or meta) rule. We are allowed three.
Of course, chat.bam.yodeya.com will go to chat.
6:07 PM
Having an "external" URL for chat isn't as useful as for the main site, because only SE users with a little rep can actually use chat. The ones that point to Q&A, on the other hand, get tweeted, included in books, etc. Those are the important ones; all else is gravy. (I'm also assuming that s.tk URLs are not part of this conversation and aren't changing.)
6:20 PM
@MonicaCellio Re: s.tk: correct.
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