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Ben
Referencing the second clip
 
@Ben Motorbiking on a wave seems like something my players would do to justify use of Power Word: Beer Me.
 
3:38 AM
hey there @RollingFeles
 
hello!
how're things?
(sorry, I will answer with some latency: half-afk)
 
Ben
@RollingFeles hafk?
 
lol
 
@KorvinStarmast Oh no! Seems like I may have missed some Guinness!
also, congrats nitsua and greener!
 
hey there @Joel
err @JoelHarmon
 
3:52 AM
weirdly, both of those pinged for me
 
also, things are fine @RollingFeles -- what's your schedule look like a week from now or so btw?
 
also, hi
 
@Joe It's basically a "best match", in chat.
 
@Mi seems likely
 
Ben
Hence why people get confused when they tag me.
 
3:54 AM
@Jo Weirdly, that didn't ping.
Maybe it has to be at least 3 letters?
 
Likely a three drink letter minimum, Min...ninjas
 
Ben
@Min
Apparently
 
Looks like it.
 
seems likely
also, I've gotta run; see you folks later!
 
Cya!
 
3:58 AM
@Miniman wait, when you make a username, does it have to have at least 3 letters?
 
@trogdor Tested, and nope.
 
oh, so that is weird then
the distinction when pinging that doesn't exist anywhere else
 
Ben
@Miniman Well that's unfortunate
It's lucky that my name fits
 
Aha! Your username doesn't have to be 3 letters, but your display name does!
 
oh
I actually meant display name, but I was brain farting over what else to call it
so fair enough
 
4:05 AM
@Miniman To quote HHGTG: "Earth? Huh, what a dull name."
 
@Shalvenay I have 3 work days left(today included) till my vacation :)
 
@RollingFeles ah xD. what does that mean for your presence here?
 
After that I'm more or less free. Don't have a plans apart dissolving in my bed and/or in my pc chair.
@Shalvenay not sure, but I'm open for suggestions ;)
 
@RollingFeles when will you be back from vacation?
as I have something I'm looking for a player for on next Tuesday night my time (US CST)
 
@Shalvenay maybe vacation is wrong word. I'll be available online during "vacation"
 
4:11 AM
@RollingFeles ah :)
 
@Shalvenay Mine zone is +12 CST :)
 
so it'd be Wednesday morning for you then?
 
yes.
 
Ben
Ok, so I have a couple of close votes on my question now... Primarily as "Unclear". How isi t unclear? Is it just lack of information to assist narrowing this down?
 
(Actually it will be my first day of official vacation, due to national holidays from 6th till 9th)
 
4:13 AM
alrighty then -- how does your availability at 8AM that morning look?
 
@Ben Probably.
 
Ben
Hrm
So because I can't make their job easier... it doesn't count as a legit question. Lol.
 
@Shalvenay 8AM my tz? Well, I'd like to sleep(due to my efforts for utter destrucion of my sleep/wakeup scheedule during my days off) but I'm ready to be ready at this time :)
 
@Ben It's not quite that simple - you're an Arqade user, so you know their policy on id questions.
 
Ben
@Miniman True.
 
4:16 AM
This is a similar thing, where people are trying to avoid "tell me what I'm thinking of" questions.
 
@RollingFeles that'd be awesome if you could :) it'll be the 5e dungeon I've been working on, although I may not be the one DMing it :)
 
@Shalvenay nice! Roll20?
 
@RollingFeles actually, in The Back Room since the 5e dungeon I've been working on is designed for theater of the mind play
@RollingFeles although, I can set something up separately if you think you need a r20 intro
 
@Shalvenay okay, so chat only? I have no issues with theater of the mind. I run DW and I don't have even sketch of the map for most encounters. :)
 
@RollingFeles yeah, np :)
 
4:24 AM
@Shalvenay nay. I'm good with 5e, played this almost a year.
 
ah, I was referring to the tool :)
 
The only issue that might arise my communication speed. And especially vocal communication, but I'm ready to work with that. I just don't want to create inconvience to anyone.
 
@RollingFeles offer for a roll20 intro still stands
welcome @goaty
 
@Shalvenay looks like I don't get what do you mean by intro :)
 
@RollingFeles ah, just showing you around how the tool works, maybe having you try DMing map-and-minis style in it just to get the hang o' things
 
4:30 AM
@Shalvenay tool = r20? I'm familiar with that. Both as player and as DM :)
 
@RollingFeles ah :)
never mind then
 
:) So, to sum up we will use r20 for char sheets and play in the chat. Did I get this right?
 
char sheets are however-folks-wish (sometimes we run without them even for short form stuff) and play is in the chat
 
Okay. Got it.
Thanks :)
 
Ben
The internet seems to lose interest in doing anything at this time of day...
 
4:52 AM
@Ben What would you have it be doing?
 
Ben
@Miniman Something. Anything.
I've noticed this the past couple of days. Around 2pm - 5pm daily, all the usual traffic (StackExchange, social media, all those kinds of things) just seem to go dead.
 
@Ben If you're that bored, want to read some old chat logs (starting here) and give me feedback/suggestions?
 
Ben
Deal
 
Preferably in the matching room.
 
Ben
@Miniman ?
 
Ben
5:07 AM
It still took me a second. "It's... that's 'it is'... so... that's wrong... Right? Yeah... That's wrong." [Edit]
 
You got that the wrong way 'round, right?
;)
 
Ben
"Go left"
"Right"
"No. Left"
 
5:22 AM
Right.
 
@Miniman ...are you on the level?
 
@Chemus If you say it in a level tone, that joke works on every level.
 
Level with me here, is the level level?
 
@Chemus I think you just levelled the level joke up a level.
 
5:37 AM
@Miniman I leveled it alright.
 
Ben
And then I came in like a wrecking ball.
And levelled the whole thing
 
5:52 AM
@doppelgreener I just came across a fascinating thing - election nominations are considered posts by the system, and yours is the 3rd highest voted post in site history.
 
so each nomination is it's own post
 
@trogdor Yep.
 
ok
 
Tag wikis are also considered posts, but don't get voted on.
 
I would have thought the whole thing would just be one post
but I guess not
@Miniman but they do get looked at by like, high rep people and mods and possibly removed or modified right?
 
5:57 AM
At a guess, because they want people to be able to vote on it, it's easiest to make it a post so that it just uses the existing mechanics.
 
@Miniman yeah that sounds like a good reason
 
@trogdor Hopefully they get looked at by lots of people!
 
well I mean, someone with not-enough-rep wouldn't be able to edit or remove it though, if it was inaccurate or useless or something
or at least I would assume so
 
In fact, @doppelgreener is the only person with >1 post in the top 10 - he's got 3 of the things!
 
3 of the what things?
 
6:00 AM
@trogdor Top 10 posts.
 
oh
 
@trogdor Not sure about this, I think it's just part of the general editing privilege.
 
but isn't that rep based still?
 
@trogdor Yep, 2k.
 
2k is high rep to me XD
I realize some of you have way more than that but I do not
 
6:04 AM
@trogdor But I'm not the Personification of Burnination, the dragonman craze who's sweeping the nation!
So it all balances out.
@doppel bluer Hello, and congratulations!
 
@doppelgreener Congrats!
What's a nice place like you doing in a mod like this?
 
6:18 AM
Thank you everyone :'D
@Chemus that cracked me up
I thought there was still a day or two left but I guess that flu made me lose track of time...
 
@doppelgreener get well soon!
and congrats! :)
 
Thanks! I'm feeling well this morning and it is time to pump weights for justice.
 
Ben
@doppelgreener I'm here to pump weights and chew bubblegum.
and I swallowed my bubblegum...
 
6:47 AM
@Miniman this is a thing that keeps my morale up pretty high yeah
@doppelgreener grats by the way
 
Ben
OH! IDEA!
But need clarification.
D&D 5e, BBEG is a warlock/sorcerer. Is there some form of "Capturing" spell?
 
@Ben Imprisonment.
 
Ben
@Miniman To then be transported away...
 
@Ben Imprisonment, either Minimus Containment or Slumber option.
 
Ben
Yeah, I can see that working. The only hitch, I want to capture (non-essential npc) instead of the actual target PC
 
6:56 AM
Petrification (Flesh to stone->Stone to flesh)
 
@trogdor thanks :D
 
:)
 
@Ben As in, in-game, you want the BBEG to be aiming for a PC but miss and hit an NPC instead?
 
Ben
@Miniman No, this is the game where the girlfriend is focussed on the love-stuff. So I want to remove my NPC
So, it'd be more of a "remove the nuisance, so I can get the target"
 
Ok, now I'm really confused. What is the BBEG trying to do, and who is he trying to do it to?
 
7:32 AM
@Miniman I think @Ben is talking about this
 
7:54 AM
@RollingFeles Oh, I know that. It's just really
 
Ben
BBEG wants to capture the PC. But, as the GM, I want to remove my NPC. I figured the BBEG can nab the NPC, so that the OC needs to rescue them, and focus on the main storyline, without any distractions.
 
@Miniman look like I have issues today with understanding people =)
 
@Ben So your BBEG will be trying to capture the PC, but accidentally capture the NPC?
 
Maybe he knows that the PC will try to rescue the NPC and the NPC is easier to capture?
 
Ben
Not accidentally. Purposefully. But I need a reason why, otherwise it makes no sense
@AnneAunyme perhaps.
 
8:09 AM
the bait by capturing the weakest member of the team is a common trope
"Princess, if you don't come back home I will have to execute this commoner you like so much. You wouldn't force us to do that, wouldn't you? ;-)"
 
@Ben Well, the villain capturing the love interest to lure the hero into a trap is a pretty classic trope.
So as long as you can come up with a reason why the NPC is easier to capture...?
 
Ben
As the story goes... not easier, as he is the reason they escaped in the first place. So perhaps the need to remove him...
Maybe I can use him as some kind of thrall...
 
but maybe his mother gets captured, then he has to got save her
 
Ben
Also the sword was from a MUD. 12d1+12 damage
 
and actually it was an evil plan since the beginning to capture the princess
 
Ben
8:19 AM
Cc @nitsua60 @BESW
@AnneAunyme unfortunately that won't work with the story. This is happening halfway through an adventure already being played, and one of the players has become distracted, so I need to bring their focus back to the story
 
It's also possible that your PC is just captured by force (which can be a non-option with the princess because the king don't want her to be hurt)
but indeed, if you can't remove your PC from the equation, these are not solutions
 
 
3 hours later…
10:55 AM
Tonight: Mushrooms, bell peppers, and vegan sausage, sautéed in teriyaki sauce with onions and served on tri-color quinoa.
 
11:21 AM
@Ben What's the cc:? That the sword was from a MUD, or something else?
@JoelHarmon thanks =)
 
A sheeple? sheep person? moderator! Congrats nitsua60
 
@Ben Much of the English-speaking world is in Europe and North America, and it's night time there.
 
Ben
11:38 AM
@nitsua60 the sword was from MUD, yes. I thought I'd cc you in case you were interested
 
It's actually middle of the day in Europe
 
Ben
@Erik not at 2pm AEST
 
@Erik Currently yes, but not at that time
 
ah, sorry
you were responding to something else :P
 
Ben
Yes. I was whinging about "the internet being asleep"
@Miniman suggested that the world was just out getting coffee. Together. All at the same time.
 
11:40 AM
@nitsua60 Good morning, Your Blueness!
 
12:17 PM
@Erik Time was invented in America, get with the program
 
@JoelHarmon Am I a Blueness or a Greeness, I wonder... (or both?)
make mod names green
 
@doppelgreener Resolved: removed blue-green distinction from English language
Many languages do not distinguish between what in English are described as "blue" and "green". They instead use a cover term spanning both. When the issue is discussed in linguistics, this cover term is sometimes called grue in English. The exact definition of "blue" and "green" may be complicated by the speakers not primarily distinguishing the hue, but using terms that describe other color components such as saturation and luminosity, or other properties of the object being described. For example, "blue" and "green" might be distinguished, but a single term might be used for both if the color...
 
@SPavel is "bleen" more blue or more green
 
@doppelgreener Resolved: user was banned for this post
 
@SPavel hahaha
 
12:23 PM
And this is why I would make the best community manager
 
@Trish I go by "sherson." And thanks, also thanks for the nice comment you left on my nomination =)
 
@SPavel You certainly get things done effectively
 
@doppelgreener I will frame this post and use it as evidence in the next mod elections
Unless the next mod elections are called because you are fired in disgrace, in which case I will disavow any relationship
 
@SPavel OMG @doppelgreener's a grue! I'm likely to be eaten!
 
Doppelbloomer? Doppelblooper.
 
12:26 PM
@BESW doppelblooper's for when i done a mistake-up
 
@nitsua60 Only if it's dark
 
@SPavel the site theme is pretty light; we are all safe.
[eyes those people who've installed a dark theme. licks lips.]
 
But we frequently discuss dark topics, such as the spell darkness, Evil alignment, and dead babies
 
@Chemus Rich Burlew is wrong. If one bothered to read the AD&D 1e PHB, p. 8, the paragraph entitled An Explanation of the Usages of the Term "level" made it abundantly clear. The joke's on Rich.
 
The joke is that a paragraph like that is even necessary
And obviously, Burlew is using "level" instead of "floor" to make the joke stick
But it's certainly possible to use other words - for example Legend calls spell levels circles which I think even sounds cooler
You're not some dork with 3rd level spells, you're a wizard of the third circle
 
12:39 PM
D&D would probably be equally fun with twelve different synonyms of 'level' used for different contexts.
 
Well there's already class level vs character level vs spell level
Caster level, manifester level, initiator level...
 
@SPavel When I first read that strip a few years ago, I found Burlew's little aside by Belkar to be simply wrong. 1e took the time to explain what level means in a given context, and I not only found it not funny, but typical of the 3.x edition generation's myopia. OK, my grognard quota for the moment is fulfilled.
 
I don't really see it as myopic that people didn't read an obscure paragraph from 3 editions ago
 
On the other hand, Rich has drawn some pretty funny strips, though it is taking him forever to complete the latest story arc. (RL commitments to his Kickstarter backers seem to be his priority).
 
The thing that tripped me up in the early days was spell levels. First, a spell level is entirely disconnected from character level and class level (which themselves are separate things), so 9th level spellcasting doesn't come at level 9. There is also spell level in the context of which level that spell is at for your class, spell level in the context of what slot you prepare it in, and spell level in the context of what you empower it up to with metamagic.
 
12:42 PM
Given how Rules centric the 3.x generation is, RTFQ is not an unreasonable request. If one is going to complain about something, it is best to know what one is talking about.
 
@SPavel That does sound pretty cool
 
And of course the age-old argument - does the ability to cast just one nth level spell mean that you qualify for "cast nth level spells"
 
@KorvinStarmast [provides with grognard quota badger]
 
OBTW, I liked the original "Druids of the X circle" except that first circle started at third level. (Arrgh, pulls hair out) and I also like the previous point about "spells of X circle" ... I am trying to remember which game I was playing that had something like that. Ages ago.
 
[grognard quota badger may become aggressive around new editions, keep away from children]
 
12:44 PM
@doppelgreener Mushroom! (Hey, you said badger more than once ...)
 
@KorvinStarmast 🐍
 
I can't tell if that's a snake or a badger looking up and right.
 
It's obviously a basilisk
 
(it is a snake)
 
What's your saving throw bonus VS effects that don't allow a saving throw?
 
12:46 PM
@Spavel Which edition? 8^D
 
Any edition
But I am making a specific reference to this:
 
Well, OD&D didn't have bonuses, it had tables based on your level (PC) or your HD (Monster) ... so no bonus then ...
 
Which is 1e
 
@KorvinStarmast Just before April Fool's, a card search site for Magic: the Gathering that I like (Scryfall) updated the card images it always displays at the bottom to the game's four badgers, plus two mushrooms, plus a snake.
 
1:32 PM
heh, that's sorta funny. Not an MtG person. (Though I do like to play hearthstone now and again).
 
1:42 PM
@doppelgreener @nitsua60 Congratulations to you both! :)
 
@LegendaryDude Thank you!
 
2:04 PM
howdy all
 
Hello!
 
@Adam that was a fun discussion on that extreme edge case yesterday
 
As fun as any debate is. I was just getting frustrated at the end though. We were running around in circles for 20 minutes it seems
 
I think it took awhile for people to understand that the precedent that was used wasn't actually related
 
The sword identification question turns out to be from a MUD. Topicality of MUDs is discussed in this meta, which really only contemplates strict rules-questions vs. roleplay-questions. Looks (to me) like there's room for more discussion =)
 
2:15 PM
Perhaps. Though, I'm tempted to ask if Blackrazor can devour your soul if it is moved outside of your body before it drops you to 0 HP. Though I can't really think of a circumstance where that could happen besides the one presented. So, it would probably end up being closed as a dupe
 
@LegendaryDude Thanks!
 
yeah, that'd be interesting. My thought is only "no" because the ring of mind shielding has no language on removing a soul that doesn't want to leave. NOt even a wish.
 
@NautArch I could see that. But it also doesn't have any language that says the soul is protected from being moved by an external force. I feel at that point it becomes a DM call based on preference of "It doesn't say you can, so you can't" versus "It doesn't say you can't, so you can"
 
yeah, i'm always wary of that latter one :)
 
I'd be wary of both
 
2:24 PM
And I tend to flip flop a little based on what I think would be fun. On one hand, it does make sense that the sword would have to feast on your soul directly from your body. But it also could be kind of cool if it could track your essence down, at least to another item that is on your person. Plus there other context that I'm sure is involved.
 
@Adam @LegendaryDude oooooh! I know how to make it more complicated!
What if Magic Jar was involved?
 
@NautArch What if Clone was also involved?
Oh I guess that doesn't complicate things too much, "At any time after the clone matures, if the original creature dies, its soul transfers to the clone, provided that the soul is free and willing to return."
 
A consumed soul is most definitely not free :p
 
yup :)
 
Free as in beer
 
2:30 PM
@SPavel Or lunch
 
Nah it's too early for lunch
 
As for magic jar, it talks a lot about what happens when the body dies, so as long as the body doesn't die, there's no question that Backrazor will eat your soul, and not the other guy's
 
but Magic Jar is interesting. Blackrazor/RoMS are attuned to creature X, Creature Y Magic Jar's X's soul and enters it's body. Does it try and devour X's soul or Y's?
 
What if there's also an intellect devourer involved
 
but creatuer & isn't attuned to the blackrazor. there's no connection between the blade and Y other than Y using it as a puppet
 
2:33 PM
I imagine Blackrazor sucking the soul from the wielder. Your soul is the soul of the Wielder's body. That's what I would say. Luckily I will probably never get a chance to run White Plume Mountain, so this is a situation that will never happen :D
 
@LegendaryDude The intellect devourer doesn't devour your soul, it just takes control of your brain?
 
I wonder if it's better for an Evil person to get their soul trapped or destroyed, rather than die and suffer in the Lower Planes
 
Eats your brain entirely
And then teleports into your skull
 
Krang
basically
 
Krang wasn't in the skull
 
2:34 PM
DANG. so I guess there's no soul? do intellect devourers have souls?
 
@SPavel I know, I know.
 
although if you're at 0 INT and less than 10 max HP, you've got some other serious problems.
 
What happens if you try to Magic Jar a host body inhabited by an intellect devourer?
 
@NautArch Not sure. Volo's guide says "Mind Flayrs breed intellect devourers to serve as roaming hunters of the Underdark, creating an intellect devourer by taking the brain of a thrall and subjecting it to a horrible ritual."
I figure it has about as much of a soul as a flesh golem does, at best
 
D&D has never been particularly clear on the whole souls thing when you get down to it
 
2:38 PM
@Adam IDs themselves are highly intelligent
> Mind Flayers breed intellect
devourers to serve as roaming hunters of the
Underdark, creating an intellect devourer by taking the
brain of a thrall and subjecting it to a horrible ritual. As
it sprouts legs, the brain becomes an intelligent predator
as twisted and evil as its masters
 
For example, if I polymorph a rock into a person, do I create a soul?
 
@LegendaryDude I don't think there's anything that says that your brain contains your soul. So, even if your brain is consumed, your soul is still trapped in your body, right? Then magic jar would switch souls and you would be unable to control the host body?
 
> An intellect devourer
consumes a creature’s mind and memories, then turns
the host body into a puppet under its control. An intellect
devourer typically uses its puppet host to lure others
into the domain o^ the mind Öaqers to be enthralled
or consumed
@Adam Yes, but that is the weird part, right? If you're devoured by an ID you are devoid of a mind, which means you can't perceive anything.
 
@LegendaryDude that's some intriguing optical character recognition results
 
@LegendaryDude Yes, but does intelligence => soul?
 
2:40 PM
> the domain o^ the mind Öaqers
 
@doppelgreener Yes, but oddly it's not OCR
 
@LegendaryDude whaaaaaaaaat
 
It's from one of the the MM preview PDFs
Must be the character encoding in the PDF or something?
@Adam No, but Magic Jar says that when your soul enters a new body you can control the new body, which strongly implies soul = control.
 
Normally soul = control
 
@Adam doesn't being devoured by an ID kill you?
 
2:42 PM
But if the original soul isn't in control of the body...
 
@LegendaryDude but does that mean you are now attuned to possibly more items than allowed?
 
@doppelgreener Not until the ID is removed
 
This really all goes back to the issue of, what makes you you
 
@doppelgreener No, you can be saved the the ID is removed from your head and your brain is restored within 1 round
 
@SPavel Theseus' Body
 
2:43 PM
Which is not solved in philosophy, never mind a dice game for nerds
 
oh shoot, that's horrifying
 
And this is why you should always have cloud backups of your brain, folks
 
The ID can also be forced out if your brain is restored with a wish
But not by any other means it seems
 
Then your buddies can just format the ID brain and restore your disk image
Sure, your brain has legs now, but nobody's perfect
Plus now you can leave your body at meetings or dates, and go have fun as a brain
 
@SPavel and by "fun" you mean devouring someone else's brain?
 
2:45 PM
@doppelgreener Don't look, but something like twelve people in this room are Intellect Devourers. Them's the odds, at least. (Hat tip to OVO @Magician.)
 
Whatever floats your goat, man, I don't judge (out loud)
 
my group is finishing up an encounter and a mindflayer some intellect devourers just showed up.
a lot of resources spent, but still enough to wipe the floor with those mofos
 
Devour the brains! THE BRAINS!!!!
 
debating about conjuring another Bigby or taking the risk and getting close enough for a Destructive Wave
 
@nitsua60 But where's the illithids..?
 
2:48 PM
@doppelgreener In the board room plotting our demise
 
@doppelgreener I direct you to @adam's post: "Devour the brains! THE BRAINS!!!!"
 
@LegendaryDude have they infected the secret editarchy!?
@Adam can we ban illithids who are plotting our demise or is that against our Be Nice policy
 
Only if they're actively eating brains.
Just because they have a tendency to eat brains does not let you jump the gun and moderate first.
 
Illithids who are plotting our demise is already violating Be Nice, right?
 
If you have proof of them not being nice.
 
2:51 PM
@LegendaryDude that might be an off-site matter though and outside our jurisdiction
 
They can plot our demise nicely
 
Also that may be an issue for your local hero guild, less so moderators.
 
For example, further proof - @Adam doesn't have an avatar, to spare us the horror of his squidly visage
 
Moderators can close their accounts but they might just get mad and I dunno, GO EAT BRAINS over it.
 
ooh, new Wait But Why post
 
2:53 PM
Maybe we need a help section detailing how not to get your brain eaten.
 
Step 1: Make only low-quality posts to disguise the true capcity of your intellect
 
Also, try to pass yourself off as a fellow mind flayer.
 
Today thanks to Smokey reporting a post on another site I saw someone use 'cranberry' as an adjective in an insult. Urbandictionary doesn't even have anything coherent to say on its usage. I'm going to remember this for an RPG session sometime.
 
wuh
 
the other words around it made it clear it was meant to be a bad thing
 
3:02 PM
@SPavel I've been discovered...
 
This wait time at the DMV is totally cranberries.
 
@MadMAxJr If you make an appointment it's super fast
 
For April Fools, we should vote on which moderator shall ascend to Lichdom.
 
I didn't know undeath was a democratic institution
 
Right. No moderator has the actual intention to become a lich, most certainly not...
 
3:06 PM
Moderators can't become liches anyway, since they are all mind flayers, they become alhoons
 
@SPavel i don't think i'm a mind flayer, but that's probably something a mind flayer would say
 
@MadMAxJr if you stop being a cranberry, the time won't feel like cranberries
 
@MadMAxJr This cranberry juice is totally cranberries.
 
Add some vodka
 
@SPavel vodka is technically basically flavorless but i'm amused that would probably actually help
 
3:11 PM
Depends on the vodka
If it's low quality plastic rotgut, it sure does have a taste, and that taste is suffering
If it's high quality, it still smells like alcohol, and smell is like 90% of taste
 
3:26 PM
@SPavel that's true
 
Hello, my favourite internet community! Congrats to the new mods!
(Those two statements are only very indirectly related, by the way.)
 
3:52 PM
Oh kickstarter. I back Athera, a neat looking PF-extension for a spacefaring sci-fi fantasy game. A month after it closes, Paizo mentions Starfinder... Which looks better in every way.
 
@MadMAxJr Oh yeah, I think I recall some people looking forward to Athera.
 
I was all set for 'Oh boy, space adventures!' Just wish I didn't put that much money into it. Cause now I need to throw more at Paizo.
 
@RollingFeles that perception question and dupes is very odd. I would not have thought that WaxEagles answer was correct, and the linked dupes are also not agreeing with WaxEagle. But it does have 12 votes...
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A: Perception Check vs Passive Perception

NautArchThat was incorrect - Passive Perception is not a Floor to your skill, it represents a different type of check PASSIVE PERCEPTION A passive perception check is (PHB pp175, emphasis mine) a special kind of ability check that doesn't involve any die rolls. Such a check can represent the averag...

 
Hoo boy, this discussion again.
 
@Yuuki I probably should have done my search first for dupes, but the idea that passive is a floor makes reliable talent a pretty weak 11th level boon.
 

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