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8:00 PM
@Canageek Went through by hand (guessed how many pages to look over, then a final manual sweep)
 
@JosephWright Effff. If you type in Angewandte it doesn't work. Angewandt does.
@JosephWright Chemie also shortens to chem.
 
@Canageek Because of the stem business, I guess
@Canageek Yup, I think we both agreed on that :)
 
@JosephWright Inorganica doesn't
@JosephWright Oh it is Chimica I need to check
 
@AlanMunn oh, that's clever, then
 
@JosephWright Hmmm. Inorg. Chim. Acta is CAS, but Inorganica Chimica Acta doesn't have ISO unless I'm missing it
 
8:03 PM
@Canageek Possibly: I'd have to trawl by hand to be sure (I'm not convinced by the ISSN site search function)
 
@JosephWright Yeah, seems to have major errors.
@JosephWright Ug. According to CAS I have to redo all my acta cryst citations, and look up the name of the journal each time, since they change it ALL THE TIME
Like, every 4 years
@JosephWright Opps, I put CrystEngComm in as Cryst. Eng. Comm. once.
 
@Canageek Yup, that's why I go for Acta Cryst. [letter] :)
 
@JosephWright So does the official TeX downloads. It used to go for the long form, a couple years ago it switched.
@JosephWright Yeah, I'm going with journal = "Acta Crystallogr.~A",
 
@Canageek Fair enough
 
I have a question
 
8:09 PM
@JosephWright Also has the upside of being easier to search since I also have Cryst. Growth Des. and CrystEngComm
Crud, I need to look up how to strip out all the citations that I didn't use, don't I?
Or will anyone look at the bib file?
It has dozens of citations that I used at one point and got cut
 
@ShreevatsaR I did not understand the post @DavidCarlisle linked, but I found an option that easily made me type { like I'm used to. Now let's see if that's the editor I was looking for…
 
@Curio Go for it
 
8:22 PM
@Moriambar. @egreg @ChristianHupfer @JosephWright
But nobody votes my questions? :) https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/366290/how-to-change-any-characters-in-mt2prolite-using-times
 
How can I set a video in my pdf?
 
@Curio I told you that you should use the example from the link you provided and take care of the way \includegraphics is used there. You can't use a .mp4file with \includegraphics (at least that would be very new to me). The graphics seems to be the some background image of the video
 
so do I have to remove it?
 
@ChristianHupfer hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, can i have your help? Why do I take only +5 and not +10 for a vote? Sometimes the system gives me +5 other times +10, why?
Thanks in advance for the vows to my questions thanks eeeeee
@DavidCarlisle hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii from my land Sicily
 
@Sebastiano do you think it needs upvotes? (a more reasonable question might be why haven't you accepted the answers)
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8:31 PM
@Sebastiano Why do you use the crook from another conversation? ;-)
 
@Sebastiano why do you you type so many i's
 
@Sebastiano: Upvotes for questions give +5 'only', those for answers +10
 
@ChristianHupfer I get +27 for all the upvotes to my questions.
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@ChristianHupfer Do questions earn votes? We should tell @DavidCarlisle
 
@DavidCarlisle There are so many reasons why in sicily when you meet someone you estimate and respect you is a demonstration of affection of friendship
 
8:32 PM
@Curio I can't answer your question since such video things don't run in my Adobe Reader ...
 
@Sebastiano perhaps repeated vowels makes sense in Italian, but it just looks really bizarre in English.
 
@DavidCarlisle I have the battery almost discharged
 
@DavidCarlisle I could manage to get that count to -27, if you prefer :-P
 
@egreg thanks lot lot lot for your help
 
@ChristianHupfer wait wait, I don't know where's the problem. I understood that I can't use a video like an image, so what do I have to do?
 
8:34 PM
@egreg Haven't asked now for more than one year ;-)
 
@DavidCarlisle @ChristianHupfer i.stack.imgur.com/1pAh9.png I do not lie. For 3 votes I took fifteen points
 
@Curio:
\includemedia[
width=0.6\linewidth,height=0.3375\linewidth,
activate=pageopen,
flashvars={
modestbranding=1 % no YT logo in control bar
&autohide=1 % controlbar autohide
&showinfo=0 % no title and other info before start
&rel=0 % no related videos after end
}
]{}{https://www.youtube.com/v/g8Ejj0T0yG4?rel=0}
 
my video isn't a youtube video
 
@Sebastiano isn't that what you expect? if each vote is 5 points 3 votes is 15.
 
@Curio: See the empty {} -- that's where \includegraphics is -- I removed it.
@Curio Yes, replace it with your own video
 
8:36 PM
@DavidCarlisle Why do I still have 10 points for a positive vote?
 
And do I have to leave {youtube.com/v/…?
 
@Sebastiano that question has 2 votes so 10 points
 
my battery is dead. I have to close. To the next. Hello to everybody else
 
@Curio {your.mp4} instead
 
ok
 
8:38 PM
@Sebastiano notebooks do have power supply too ;-) Perhaps you should use the power strip as well from time to time instead of running out of battery all the time
 
@ChristianHupfer in the pdf there is "media embadded by media9"
 
Someone once showed me how to make a .bib with only citations that are used. Anyone know how to do that? @JosephWright?
 
@Canageek Are you using biber or bibtex?
 
@AlanMunn Um, good question
 
@Canageek JabRef can do it I think. There is a question about it.
 
8:41 PM
@ChristianHupfer so I don't see the video
 
@Curio I don't know, I don't see this message. There's nothing more I can do for you. Perhaps the creator of media9 can solve this
 
Any idea from \usepackage[super,sort&compress,comma]{natbib} and \bibliography{DLeznoffUranylAu}
\bibliographystyle{rsc} %the RSC's .bst file?
 
I'm using sharelatex
 
@Canageek bibtex
 
@DavidCarlisle Thanks.
 
@AlanMunn Thanks
 
@ChristianHupfer Let's save power!
 
@ChristianHupfer how is it possible?
 
@AlanMunn Not in my TeXLive install?
 
@Curio I told you that I can't do more for you. I answered that the basic error is that .mp4 is no valid extension for a graphics file to be included with \includegraphics. Wherever you got that wrong code from ... I have no idea
 
8:46 PM
@ChristianHupfer I see this when I download the pdf and I see this
 
Emacs seems to me a lot like a more usable version of vim… thanks you all, but that's not what I was looking for ;)
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@Moriambar Have you used TeXShop? That's what I use, and I find it perfectly fine. Only for LaTeX though; for coding I use TextWrangler.
 
@Moriambar What about Notepad++?
 
@Canageek That's weird. It's in mine (MacTeX, which is just TeX Live). Are you sure you're not using MikTeX?
 
@AlanMunn Yes, but I didn't do a full install. Any idea what it is listed under?
 
8:50 PM
@Canageek No idea, sorry. It's part of the binaries though.
 
@AlanMunn Found it: bibexport
 
@Moriambar Yes, come to dark side and together we can use Emacs /Deep breathing sound ;-)
 
@AlanMunn Found problem: It is installed, but not in my path
 
can anyone help me?
 
@AlanMunn looks fine, I use it all the time… except for package writing, esp l3 packages
@CarLaTeX win only, I use it at work
@ChristianHupfer nah, it offers nothing
 
8:54 PM
@Moriambar I find you lack of faith disturbing :-(
 
@AlanMunn It is a bash script, and I've not got bash installed
 
@Moriambar True, it's not setup for the crazy unique L3 syntax style.
@Canageek I can't help it if you are using an inferior OS. ;-)
 
@AlanMunn It has bash now, I just haven't taken the time to upgrade
 
@AlanMunn Is there another way?
I've done it before, but with biber
 
9:00 PM
@Moriambar emacs is immensely powerful but obviously as it's not written specifically as a tex ide it may need some customisation, I use it for tex, for c for xml, I used it as my email client for many years (although I switched to thunderbird) it can handle editing thousands of files and has a full programming language as its customisation so in the end it's a win, but if you want an editor focussed on tex functionality and obeying platform GUI conventions on the mac, then perhaps less so.
 
@ChristianHupfer Well… it seems to me a pumped-up version of vim
@AlanMunn Yes, in that respect TeXworks is really better. I just liked a bit more
 
@Moriambar EMACS ... EIGHT MEGABYTES ARE CONTINOUSLY SWAPPING ;-)
@Moriambar Use it or leave it ... it's a free world ...
 
@Moriambar odd that you should compare it to vim, they are both powerful editors but the philosophy of editing modes could not be more different
 
@DavidCarlisle I grew up to believe, professionally and personally, that things that do more than one thing at once are not as good as things that are dedicated to a specific task.
 
@Moriambar emacs is dedicated to the single task of being the best editor available:-)
 
9:07 PM
Installing Windows Subsystem for Linux now
 
@DavidCarlisle well from my point of view they are similar in the sense that their "main" command (afaik about the tutorial) are about copying, pasting, etc… basically techniques that may've been useful 20years ago or could be useful in a terminal window, but I find that anacHronistic
@DavidCarlisle the difference is: my father could use emacs like a normal editor. vim… it's impossible for anyone but an expert to do that
 
@Moriambar it's impossible for anyone to use vim:-)
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Ug, bash, install faster
 
@Moriambar I suppose it depends what you want to do, I routinely need to apply regexp replaces over thousands of files, and routinely edit shell scripts, xml, xslt, c and Fortran as part of the same project so having an editor that works for multiple languages, and can handle multiple files is a big win, also as I've used the same editor almost every day since 1987 using any editor with different keybindings is really difficult.
 
9:23 PM
@DavidCarlisle I understand the multiple language: not that many editor support that. But why insisting on the multiple file? I don't know editors who don't support that
(at least I don't use any)
 
Just like your browser supports reading multiple websites at the same time
 
@DavidCarlisle indeed
@ShreevatsaR exactly since the first firefox more or less
 
mstdn.io/@mayuutann/861962 < There is now a Mastadon instance with TeX support. So you can tweet math.
 
@Moriambar So I don't understand your question :) Are you asking why someone may want to edit more than one file at the same time?
 
@ShreevatsaR quite the opposite: I'm telling that all the editors I know support multiple files. Maybe wasn't so in 1987 though
 
9:28 PM
@Moriambar well as I say I don't know other editors so well, if they can easily construct lists of thousands of files and then apply editing functions over those files that's fine.
 
@DavidCarlisle ah, I do not know any keybindings that aren't related to my hated job, so that doesn't apply to me
@DavidCarlisle nono I understand that.
 
@Moriambar i quite enjoy my job, probably because I spend most of my working day in emacs:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle well it's not emacs or lack of emacs that makes me hate it… it's all wrong
 
@Moriambar Can you say what difficulties you found when starting with Emacs? Is it just the initial impressions within the first few hours of using it, or something more?
 
@Canageek If you have JabRef installed to manage your references, it can do it too. biber can do it, but not from a file generated by natbib/bibtex.
 
9:42 PM
@AlanMunn I don't, but that seems faster then installing all of LaTeX again for use with bash
@AlanMunn Thought this bash would be able to use my windows exacutables, but nope
 
9:59 PM
@ShreevatsaR no difficulties at all (after finding out that "alt" is special for emacs, thus having to tell it not to make it special, but I had no difficulties in finding that once I understood it)
 
@Curio Does your question really need all that code to show the problem? Can't you make it more minimal?
 
They told me to post all the code
 
@AlanMunn Ok, that installed now
 
@Curio I don't see any comment like that.
 
10:10 PM
@AlanMunn really?!
 
@Canageek There's another answer showing how to do this with JabRef in the question I pointed you to.
 
@AlanMunn Almost done
 
so can you help me?
 
@AlanMunn Saw that.
Trying to compile now
 
@Moriambar ah yes, it's C-; in Aquamacs (runs "toggle-mac-option-modifier"). I need to use it often, because I need both the "normal" Alt key to enter certain characters, and the "Emacs" Alt key (using Alt key as Emacs Meta) for using Emacs.
 
10:16 PM
please help me it's too urgent
 
@ShreevatsaR yes, but apart than that no difficulties at all… did I give you the impression that it was difficult?
 
@Moriambar Sorry I shouldn't have used the word "difficulties" (and that was not what was on my mind), but more "infelicities" -- basically I got the impression that you didn't like it, and I thought it may be interesting/useful to know what it is that turns off new users.
 
@ShreevatsaR I did not like it because I don't think is that useful. In general because if I search for a text editor I can use anything else I like; as an IDE for LaTeX because it is not one (no autocompletion, no automatching braces, no smart spacing, no smart syntax highlighting for expl3,…), as a LaTeX editor… well TeXShop, TeXworks, even Atom I think offer nothing less, perhaps a bit more (Esp. TeXShop). Following the tutorial (cont...)
(cont'd) I picked up some commands to do some basic text manipulation that reminded me some vim guide, and that may've been useful back in the day, or may still be useful today in the terminal-shell situation, but that I feel a bit outdated, since nowadays all of the commands I use are done differently
To summarize: I don't find it useful (for my purposes). I understand that it may be useful in some applications (e.g. David's example, as I know that will be plenty), but not in mine, nor I feel it in general.
(finished)
 
10:37 PM
@Moriambar Yes thanks, that's useful to know. Emacs has all of those (autocompletion, automatching braces, smart spacing (whatever kind of smartness you prefer)), and I use all these features regularly. It can have syntax highlighting for expl3 too, if someone does the work for it (someone might already have).
 
@ShreevatsaR I tried but it did not do anything you said for expl3. So it's better using TeXworks which I managed (thanks to some post) to have expl3-friendly
TeXworks just lacks the spacing and bracing, which is annoying, but at least the code is readable
@ShreevatsaR maybe you lost the start of it all: I need something that resembles an expl3 ide. Why? Because I find it a bit painful to write readable packages with normal LaTeX tools
I do not need a LaTeX editor: in that case I don't know what can any editor other than TeXShop offer me and that I need
 
@egreg no
 
11:10 PM
@egreg no amount of flashy over generalisation is too much when trying to pre-emptively steal a tick I see!
 
@DavidCarlisle I like to generalize.
 
@egreg you like to steal ticks
 
11:27 PM
@DavidCarlisle Besides, I elegantly solved the \expandafter\patchcmd\csname\string\foo\endcsname problem a few years ago.
 
11:38 PM
@egreg is it normal that typoaid with the "no-kerning" code yields alphabet lengths that are less than the "kerning" ones? (namely in sffamily and scshape)?
sounds reasonable to me but wanted to have a double check
@ShreevatsaR really cool
 
@Moriambar Some letters might have a positive kerning.
 
@egreg yes, checks out
 
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