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2:00 PM
:O I was looking at cities in England (I already knew East Coast around me had a lot of similar named cities as you) but didn't know you also had a Rochester
How do you pronounce that @GarethMcCaughan or @RosieF
 
@n_palum With the stress on the Roch (rhymes with botch).
 
@n_palum ROTCH-ess-tur.
 
More or less the way you might expect. Ro (short "o" like "not") - chest - er. Stress on first syllable.
 
It's not a Leicester/Bicester type job.
 
Oh that's about the same as me
 
2:01 PM
(for those who don't know, those are pronounced lester and bister)
(and Worcester is wooster)
 
Wasn't sure if it was drastically different
And I did know about those ^ ^^
 
I was waiting for you to post that.
 
Oh my you hear 'em on the tube "Well we were told to go to Lie sester square"
 
@Randal'Thor Indeed not. -cester is pronounced "ster" (as if the ce were silent) but -chester behaves normally.
 
2:02 PM
@GarethMcCaughan Oh, have I posted it in here before?
Pardon my repetitiveness.
 
"Where is Ed in bow row on this map?"
 
I don't think so, but you posted his one about his fine musical instrument.
 
Low-brow University.
 
tee hee
 
indeed
 
2:03 PM
@GarethMcCaughan / @RosieF I go to a school in American Rochester - but back home, we also have a bunch of cities/towns taken from England
 
Wow all these things are horrible
 
@GarethMcCaughan I first came across him via the Shibboleth video, which someone linked in another room, and then checked out the rest of his stuff.
 
which particular things, and what sort of horrible?
 
He's got a pretty good singing voice.
 
Warrington, Warwick, Hampton
 
2:04 PM
@GarethMcCaughan These pronunciation stuff
 
Yes, he has. I suspect he has a better singing voice than you'd think from these videos, too, when he isn't trying to play a character.
 
Alnwick.
 
@JonathanAllan Meant to be Edinburgh?
 
I'm still working on "Wednesday." (As in when I should've gone to bed. see you in my dreams.)
 
2:07 PM
actually "eed in bow roh"
Did the song miss "St John"?
St John or St. John is a given name and surname. St John can be pronounced /ˈsɪndʒᵻn/ or /ˈsɪnʒən/, as if written Sinjin or Sinjun, particularly if it is the first part of a hyphenated family name or a given name in the United Kingdom. Use of the full stop separator is uncommon in some countries, especially those that use Commonwealth English. The first name may refer to: St John Grimbly, South African scholar St John Ervine, Irish writer St John Groser, Anglican priest and Christian socialist St John Horsfall, British motor racing driver St John Philby, British civil servant and explorer in Arabia...
 
Sid
Surprisingly, I have not been able to view Mathjax stuff. Does anyone know about any particular reason why that's the case?
 
Is it really bow roh? and not more like bur row?
 
no that was the mispronunciation. Its ed (like editor) in (like Indiana) buh (like but) ruh (like rut)
 
Hmm
 
@Sid which page?
 
2:11 PM
Barnoldwick is Barlick? Now that was a new one on me. It's worse than "Sloit" for Slaithwaite.
 
Side note - when did Czech Republic become Czechia
 
Featherstonehaugh is the boss.
 
The name of the Czech Republic derives from the Slavic tribe of Czechs (Czech: Češi). The Kingdom of Bohemia existed between 1085 and 1348, and from 1348 to 1918 it is referred to as the Lands of the Bohemian Crown. After the break-up of the Habsburg Empire, which the kingdom was part of since the seventeenth century, the new country Czechoslovakia was created by the union of the Czech lands and Slovakia. After the dissolution of Czechoslovakia in the so-called "Velvet Divorce" of 1993, the name "the Czech Republic" (Czech: Česká republika) was created as the official long-form name. The official...
> Six months after the name Czechia was adopted, The Guardian reported that the new name is hardly in use, even on the official Czech government websites.
 
Hmm interesting.. It's listed as Czechia on Google Maps
 
2:14 PM
works fine for me, strange
 
Sid
Strangely, Mathjax doesn't work anywhere for me, now..
 
Are you one phone or computer?
*on
 
Do you have a firewall or something blocking a js library?
 
Sid
I am on computer at home. (which essentially means I know nothing of What this thing has or has not)
 
try a different browser maybe?
 
Sid
2:19 PM
Nope, doesn't work even on a different browser
 
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Q: Another picture puzzle _________

Brent HackersA single word connects these images: What is the word, and what are the connections?

 
@Sid how do they look? plain latex markup with all those dollars? Or can you at least see the html rendering?
 
Sid
Latex markup with dollars...
 
Anyone here into writing mathematical papers? I don't necessarily mean cutting-edge research, but less-important stuff, perhaps. Recreational mathematics, you might say.
 
@Sid this might help
 
2:22 PM
@JonathanAllan Trottiscliffe -> "Trozly" was my favourite. I laughed out loud at that point.
 
how else would you pronounce it? :p
 
@RosieF Rand al'Thor is a professional (academic) mathematician.
 
user278208
Why this is getting downvoted, even though it answers the question perfectly ? (And #2 ,#3 are based on the first trick)
 
Sid
@Wellyeah Try not to be too lazy and give the full answer. People tend to like full answers better.
 
@GarethMcCaughan Gosh, Didn't know that. And you told me that you are, yourself, IIRC? Anyway, I just wondered if you knew of any publication that would take papers about recreational mathematical subjects -- results which as far as I have been able to tell by Googling are beyond what has alrady been published.
I guess that the stuff wouldn't be considered important enough for arXiv, from what I've seen of arXiv.
 
2:28 PM
I was, once, but not for very long. Now I'm working in industry.
 
user278208
@RosieF Why not share 'em tell the abstract here ?
 
There are journals devoted to recreational mathematics, and others with an education-y focus that might be interested.
 
@Wellyeah also it doesn't actually answer it.
 
E.g., if what you're doing happens to have anything to do with the Fibonacci sequence, there's the Fibonacci Quarterly.
 
@Wellyeah Hmm. Isn't this really meant to be Q&A? I know that it's acceptable for the OP to post an answer to their own question, but to post an answer that you already knew before you even posted the question would seem to me to be against the spirit of the site.
 
2:30 PM
There's a journal just for Fibonacci things? That's interesting.
 
user278208
@JonathanAllan Lagrange polynomial answers this (type of) question(s) perfectly. (Also, I don't see why it doesn't works)
 
Or you could consider the American Mathematical Monthly in the US or the Mathematical Gazette in the UK. Neither is exactly recreational, but either might be interested in recreational mathsy things.
 
... you dont even say what the missing numbers are using your method.
 
user278208
@RosieF In the chat, not the main site.
 
user278208
@RosieF There was also a site for cool stuffs in Conway's game of life.
 
2:31 PM
@Wellyeah Golly!
 
...a mathematics paper in chat would not be at all appropriate, aren't they often dozens of papers with diagrams?
 
If you go onto English Language and write "looking it up in a good dictionary" I imagine you'd get downvoted too
 
@GarethMcCaughan Thanks for those names.
 
I mean, hosting it online somewhere and linking it here sounds fine, but chat is not an appropriate venue for publishing
 
user278208
@RosieF Finally found (also a breeding site for crackpots)
 
2:32 PM
it'd be really really bad at it
 
user278208
@JonathanAllan Well, that actually answers #1 (and provides hints for the other two)
 
Why would someone publish their math paper in chat?
 
user278208
@Ankoganit The abstract.
 
@Wellyeah Why would you be hinting in an answer? that makes no sense...
 
2:33 PM
@RosieF Joke or coincidence? (There is a computer program that implements Conway's Life rather efficiently, which is called Golly.)
 
I guess some people must always be right
 
As it happens, I did once spot, on GitHub of all places, some tables of results regarding turmites. I pushed the envelope on that one. (I had previously thought that GitHub was a repository for code, not for results in human-accessible form.)
 
@dcfyj no point asking
 
There used to be a Journal of Recreational Mathematics but it stopped publishing in 2014.
 
@GarethMcCaughan Yes, that's what I was alluding to.
@GarethMcCaughan Ah yes, Eureka, the journal of the Archimedeans. A great pity, I thought, that it's ceased publication. There was some good stuff in that.
 
2:36 PM
There's this degruyter.com/view/j/rmm but I have no idea how reputable it is. (I recognize several of the names on its editorial board, for what it's worth.)
I didn't mean Eureka. I mean there was a thing actually called the Journal of Recreational Mathematics.
 
user278208
Actress Lisa angry and very weary(4,5) Lamp lady's dark hours during storm (11) (8)
 
user278208
Any ideas ?
 
So far as I know, Eureka is still being published, though it's a student thing and I don't think it guarantees to come out every year or anything.
 
@GarethMcCaughan Hm. Might be worth a bash. Language is English but based in Lisbon, I see.
 
@Wellyeah Are you sure the second isn't 8,11 rather than 11,8?
 
2:38 PM
@GarethMcCaughan Ah -- my mistake then. Eureka's subtitle is that, and I didn't know about the other JRM.
 
Because then it would probably be FLORENCE NIGHTINGALE though the clue seems to be missing a word or two.
(night in gale)
 
user278208
@GarethMcCaughan I saw it in a Eddy James (or something like that) Crossword, I forgot the source long ago. I have no idea now about it's surity.
 
No idea what an Eddy James Crossword might be.
 
user278208
Eddie James' crossword
 
You don't know Lisa Rage Tired? The famous actress?
 
user278208
2:41 PM
One of these, I forgot which one.
 
user278208
@Sconibulus No, never heard.
 
Actress Lisa angry and very weary (4,5) is apparently BONETIRED (according to this site)
 
@Wellyeah Pretty sure Sconibulus is joking.
 
Sid
@Anko Your link didn't help much. It says that the whole network is HTTPS but Mathjax is in HTTP. The issue is, it used to work in my laptop before it got wrecked
 
Doesn't sound very good to me though
 
2:42 PM
There's an actress called Lisa Bonet. I suppose IRED could kinda sorta mean angry.
 
user278208
I thought that would not depend on cultural knowledge, so it was better if I didn't persist on that.
 
@GarethMcCaughan ah ok
 
(IRE as a verb is in the OED but it says it's both obsolete and rare.)
 
yeah, I was joking
 
Ire? I've heard it many a time: "You've raised my ire!" or somesuch.
 
2:43 PM
@Sid idk then :(
 
that's as a noun and doesn't suffice to make IRED a word.
(I would think ire would be roused more often than raised)
 
lol True, either way
 
@GarethMcCaughan Golly! And this time that's a genuine exclamation. I thought that was just a made-up name, like Alice Crofton. wiki's So there is.
 
user278208
Okay, now I don't care much about the CC because it needs Googling.
 
It was posted in the NY times, so its not surprising that it would have trivia in it.
Speaking of CC, where's Deusovi?
 
user278208
2:45 PM
's are nonsensically . I wonder what's the ness in using esoteric 's.
 
12 messages deleted
 
user278208
Gtg (fp,ph)!
 
5 messages deleted
5 messages deleted
 
I think that last group deletion was a little unnecessary but ok.
 
Gah, those 5 messages are immune to deletion!
 
2:51 PM
Weird
 
huh? why?
 
Where I mentioned the Times?
Anyhow, where are the mods? I've been wondering that for a while now. We usually have at least Deusovi on by now.
 
Anyway, just a quick reminder:
If you think you see another AK sock, please let the mods know privately via flags on main site rather than addressing it publicly. If you're wrong, you're victimising an innocent user, and if you're right, you don't have the power to do anything about it anyway. Plus, don't say publicly how you know (for reasons which I won't say explicitly but which are hopefully obvious).
 
@Randal'Thor I did flag it. 2 hours ago.
 
@Wellyeah Well, I don't really want to reveal too much, but let's say that the subject is an existing (though not the most-studied) sub-genre of a well-known area of recreational maths, and I would like to show my research into bigger examples than any that anyone else (AFAIK) has made. And possibly also examples with additional finesses (but that's just work I plan to do later).
 
2:54 PM
(Oh, apparently those 5 messages did get deleted, but they were still showing up on my screen for some reason.)
 
lol
 
@dcfyj So did I. Seems the PSE mods are all asleep :-/
Emrak was on earlier ...
 
My flag was in chat though. From what I saw on main there was no reason to suspect.
 
what's the mechanism for using "flags on main site" to notify the moderators about something odd in chat?
 
We can raise a mod flag in chat too, right?
 
2:57 PM
@GarethMcCaughan Just do it.
 
Nike?
 
@Randal'Thor sorry, I don't understand. What should I flag? Aren't flags things you attach to particular questions/answers/comments?
 
@Ankoganit Yes, but that goes to all mods across the network, and there's only very few of us who are familiar enough with the situation to understand.
 
@Randal'Thor ah, makes sense.
 
He appears!
 
2:59 PM
@GarethMcCaughan Yes, so if you suspect something about a particular user, you can flag one of their posts. You can also raise a custom flag on anything for any reason; it'll show up in the mod queue and they can deal with it.
@Deusovi! We are saved!
 
Hello!
 
Morning :)
 
@Randal'Thor Custom is how I did it. I didn't want to bother mods that wouldn't even know the situation.
 
@Randal'Thor When someone possibly-dodgy is in chat, they may not even have any posts on the main site.
 
@Deusovi Go and handle those flags on main :-)
 
3:00 PM
@GarethMcCaughan How can one chat without some rep on main?
 
@GarethMcCaughan You need something like 25 rep to chat, so there'll be something to flag
 
ah, fair enough.
 
@GarethMcCaughan You need 20 rep to chat, and you need posts to get rep. Also, if they don't have anything to flag, you can just flag anything and say what needs saying.
Flags can be used as private messages to mods, essentially.
 
But technically, it can come from even edits/ some other SE site .
 
goes to flag something with "hey Deusovi, how are you doing?"
:-P
 
3:02 PM
@Randal'Thor Private one-way messages :P
 
It seems a pity that there isn't an actual private-message-to-mods mechanism to use, rather than having to piggyback on something intended for a slightly different purpose. But fair enough.
 
@Randal'Thor I mean, it's probably gonna be handled by me, just since I'm online so much.
(The other mods handle flags, of course, but Em and GPR are frequently busy. I'm a student and I check in on the site multiple times a day.)
 
Yeah, I don't think I've seen Emrakul around in a while, is everything ok there?
 
So if I go to one of my own answers (because I don't want to risk triggering some internal SE mechanism that notices flags on things on anyone else) and click flag, it gives me only one option: "In need of moderator intervention". Is that the custom flag referred to above?
 
@GarethMcCaughan Yep.
 
3:06 PM
@GarethMcCaughan Test it out :P
 
@dcfyj I'd rather not make unnecessary work for the moderators.
 
Because you can put any text in there (up to some character limit), not just "very low quality" or "spam" or whatever.
 
@GarethMcCaughan I mean, I can handle it in a couple seconds. :P
 
Deusovi's right there, he clearly needs something to do :P
 
Sid
What on earth was that deleting spree by Rand?
 
3:08 PM
@Sid I'm sure you can figure it out.
 
Sid
Oh, man. I rarely lose my cool. But this is one of the instances where I legitimately want to
G
 
G?
 
G!
 
Sid
Give a dose of my frustration to our old friend.
 
GG
 
3:09 PM
@Sid and the attention he seeks
 
Sid
@anko no problem. It might be a problem on my home computer..
 
@Deusovi Oh my
 
@Deusovi ...reddit is an odd place
 
It certainly is.
 
3:12 PM
Understatement of the year
2
 
@Sid btw, did you fix your laptop?
(or get it fixed?)
 
Sid
Nah. I will see to it when I return to the place I live in.
 
ok
 
Sid
I find it funny, however that a couple of black tapes could hold the laptop for close to a month..
 
what in the
 
3:14 PM
I'm guessing you mean pieces of black tape
 
700+ new messages in the last few hours? good morning all :)
 
GaMen
 
Morning!
 
Sid
GamEN
 
GamEn
 
3:15 PM
I think we could use N as a goodbye :P
Since most people log off at that time
 
But there isn't really any logging off.
 
Alright, getting off the computer/phone then lol
 
3:28 PM
@Deusovi - I hate asking, but puzzling.stackexchange.com/a/51158/30633 seems like undelete-worthy. thoughts?
 
I'm guessing you mean the answer
 
Undeleted. I'll clean it up and make it CW.
 
cool
 
3:48 PM
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Q: Can you find the next entry in this sequence `?`

VepirFind a rule that applies for the first six entries and add at least one more. I do take 20,000¥ recompensations The rule is simple. Each individual entry has multiple valid solution, this is just one such set. The fact that the next entry is longer than the previous o...

 
Oh the hammer came through finally, nice
But we should not be confronting anything in chat I have gathered? and not flagging in chat but in PSE?
 
Flagging in chat lets other mods see it, even in other rooms. There's nothing wrong with them seeing it, but they often don't have the context to handle it.
 
But flagging on the site alerts just our 3?
 
@Deusovi Pretty sure custom chat flags are site mods only
 
4:03 PM
@n_palum Yep, they get put in our flag queue.
 
When you got on, you saw the flag I put up in contact no?
 
Nope.
I don't remember it, at least.
 
Odd, no one ever came in there (mods that is) so there's no reason for it to have been cleared...
 
@Randal'Thor didn't? Huh.
 
My CCCC has been sitting unsolved for a couple of days now. Hints?
 
Sid
4:06 PM
Of course. I thought @techie was right...
 
Well, "self-evident" and "theoretic" don't mean the same thing.
 
@GarethMcCaughan I'll take a hint! XD
 
@Deusovi He shouldn't have been able to see it. The hover text on it says "Moderator flags are seen only by the site-moderators, and should be used to indicate serious issues with a message and other administrative issues."
 
I haven't done anything in the Contact room.
 
shrug
 
4:08 PM
@Deusovi His stuff is just gone from the contact room
 
The text on the one I put up said something along the line of "this user is suspicious, might be sock."
 
He just kept asking to play
 
Maybe one of the CMs handled it? I definitely didn't.
 
Oh well
 
Now I look like a hooligan talking to myself
 
4:09 PM
I still see his text...
 
Sid
@n_palum hooligans don't talk to themselves. They threaten other people.
 
Yeah but it's just a greyed out user
@Sid Tomato potato
Is the CCCC something to do with Brexit?
 
The CCCC has nothing to do with Brexit, though of course that sort of thing is supposed to be suggested by its surface reading :-).
 
Okay good
I wanna visit someday, y'all better not make that impossible with some shenanigans
 
@n_palum I hope we don't, but so far it seems rather as if the government either doesn't know what it's doing or doesn't care.
 
Sid
4:23 PM
@n_palum I don't really follow international politics but how can the British affect your travel plans?
 
@GarethMcCaughan I like your country a lot and I am hoping things work out and I get to visit next Summer :)
@Sid The whole Brexit situation, it is unlikely to affect travel situations, mostly joking
@Deusovi can you use italics to emphasize part of a word in a CC?
 
Sid
They voted to get out of EU. Not anything anyone can do.
 
@n_palum ...I don't see why you couldn't. Why?
 
like if I wanted part of a word to be the wordplay bit
 
Sid
I don't understand why you would want to do that. Wouldn't it make things easier? Or harder of you k
 
4:31 PM
like combining forms
 
Sid
*intentionally muddle things up..
 
I don't think it'd be far if I wanted someone to use the prefix/suffix/infix
Like combining words, such as -footed
If I wanted them to get footed could I italicize that part of it's definition
 
I don't understand what you're asking.
 
I don't really know how to explain it well
Agh I'll just ask with my specific example I wanted to use
Could you use racecourse to clue DROME - dictionary.com/browse/-drome
 
Explain?
Oh, why the italics then?
 
4:37 PM
Because racecourse is hippodrome and you should use the suffix?
 
Ah. I don't think that's fair, no.
 
That looks fishy.
 
Because drome is from the course, the combining word, nothing to do with race
That's what I figured, and why I asked
 
Also, drome on its own isn't really a word.
 
^
 
4:39 PM
Again why I asked ;)
All good, thanks for clarifying, and also Hi Oehm
I really wanna get Gareth's CC because I came up with a CC I'm proud of for once
 
@MOehm According to Chambers, drome is a colloquial word for aerodrome.
 
@RosieF Touché! (But then n_palum's clue should have been runway or some such.)
 
Aww man, if any of you are ever in upstate New York, check out Rhinebeck Aerodrome
so many cool old planes
 
I am!
 
They fly a Bleriot from like 1910
 
4:48 PM
....That's not in upstate New York :/
 
err... in the Albany area then? :)
most people here in the South call anything north of NYC upstate
 
Bit south of Albany too
It's between NYC and Albany
I'ts not at all upstate.. Upstate it over by me in Rochester, or way upstate in lake placid, and beyond
 
Can I say In the Hudson Valley?
 
I guess so?
I'm not native to NY so idk about those things
Oh! @MOehm I was telling Gareth/Rosie about the multitude of cities/towns I grew up near that were taken from England, but there is also a bunch from Germany too :)
 
Like old New York was once New Amsterdam... why they changed it who can say? People just liked it better that way
 
4:55 PM
They might be giants after all :P
 
There's a New Holland, a Hanover, and East Berlin
 
Also @Sconibulus, Istanbul was Constantinople, but I'm sure you knew that already
 
Oh, so you still have East Berlin?
 
It is very tiny, like under 2,000 people considering it's a town
also lots of -burg(h) things which I think are German origin
 
Well, I said that, because our East Berlin was merged with West Berlin when Germany was reunified.
 
4:58 PM
Well yeah..
 

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