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cfr
2:56 AM
@UlrikeFischer Thanks for confirming. @DavidCarlisle Me, too.
@Moriambar Any particular reason you want to protect it? It has one answer which has been deleted as a 'thanks', but one such answer since 2012 doesn't seem sufficient to justify protecting it.
 
 
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6:31 AM
@cfr I think that it will attract many answers like "me too" or "I did this and it worked" and they may add no extra value to it; nevertheless the mods know better
 
7:04 AM
What should we do with this question?
 
7:17 AM
@Johannes_B Probably a dupe, maybe tex.stackexchange.com/questions/153167 fits, or tex.stackexchange.com/questions/86752, which is more to the point.
 
7:37 AM
@TorbjørnT. Thanks. I voted as dupe of the second.
 
8:17 AM
@DavidCarlisle ok.
 
9:08 AM
@CarLaTeX it's Psmith. :)
Wow!
> A court just banned Uber from using its apps in Italy -- yes, all of Italy. The court ruled in favor of the country's taxi drivers -- who filed the suit -- claiming Uber was "unfair competition." Now Uber can't use it's apps -- including UberBlack, Uber LUX, X, and Select -- and it can't promote or advertise itself at all within the country. For all intents and purposes, Uber is banned in Italy.
 
9:24 AM
@PauloCereda not that many people use either Uber or taxis… mainly businessmen
 
@Moriambar Really? It's a very popular service in Brazil, but it's not officially regulated.
 
@PauloCereda it is certainly anglo-saxon! :):):):):)
@PauloCereda The taxi drivers are a caste in Italy, that's why Uber has problems!
 
@CarLaTeX oh
 
9:57 AM
@PauloCereda apart from it being a caste, using taxi is expensive: one is better of with public transportation (mainly in big cities) or with his own car
way better off
 
@Moriambar I see
 
@PauloCereda Yes… businessmen use the service much only because the expenses are covered (when I was sent to belgium for a couple of days I had to use train+public transportation, since taxi was not covered).
 
@Moriambar When I went to Barcelona, I only used metro. :)
But I am no businessduck, I am a humble starving student. :)
 
@PauloCereda I see… now I'm kind of a starving underpaid programmer, before I was a consultant.
More spare time, though
 
@Moriambar I have a thesis to write, but procrastination is way more fun. :)
 
10:09 AM
@PauloCereda I have a presentation to do for the 21st… going into a high school to explain the basics of typography and how to use LaTeX and friends to really make pretti documents.
Procrastination is funnier because in both our cases people won't listen and probably will sleep through the entire thing. I'm sure about me :D
@ChristianHupfer (or any other German-speakers), I have to translate (for an unrelated topic, a musing between friends) in German the following phrase (please mind: "P" is an invented word of us, which should represent some undefinable thing):
Time is money, but money is not time… and P is neither
@PauloCereda What is your thesis about?
 
@Moriambar that's a good question... macros. :)
 
@PauloCereda lucky you!
I wish I had done a thesis about macros :)
 
@Moriambar in short, my thesis is
\thesis
\bye
:)
 
ahahah
fun-tastic
 
@Moriambar I wish I could send this to my advisor without getting hit on the head. :)
 
10:15 AM
how many \expandafter have you inserted?
 
@Moriambar I have a lot of \relax there. :)
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@PauloCereda I see you have, at least right now :P
 
@Moriambar :)
 
@PauloCereda Is your thesis in english?
 
@Moriambar No, in Portuguese. I could write in English, but I'd rather write in my good Portuguese than my acceptable English. :)
 
10:24 AM
@PauloCereda I preferred the opposite when I did mine… Alas, I don't know Portuguese, otherwise I would've been interested in reading it (after your dissertation)
I have to try to have to write about TeX, LaTeX, etc… maybe I'll learn something and become useful here :)
 
@Moriambar I'd take twice as much to write in English, so I pass. :)
 
@PauloCereda oh, I see. I sometimes think I write better in English than in Italian
 
@Moriambar :)
 
@PauloCereda (I've been also a semi-pro translator for some 12 years, I think I sometimes lose my Italian capability due to the English disturbance)
 
@Moriambar that's awesome!
 
10:34 AM
@PauloCereda Well, I'd rather have written a thesis about macros
 
@Moriambar :)
 
@Moriambar Of course! If you make some mistake in English you have the excuse that you aren't native English speaker!
 
@PauloCereda I'm not joking: I feel as I have left TeX and LaTeX behind… I'm trying to catch up, but it's not easy since it's hard to know from which one has to start, having the goal to be productive too!
@CarLaTeX yes and no. You can do that here in chat, but when you get paid for your translation work you cannot afford that. Also on my programming job I have to provide precise translations to my colleagues, since they consult me only for difficult topics and phrases
 
@PauloCereda ^^^ Found at the library!
 
@CarLaTeX why, oh why should I stop procrastinating?
 
10:43 AM
@CarLaTeX booo
 
@Moriambar I intended when you write your thesis :):):):):)
@Moriambar to stop paying tuition fees! :):):):):)
 
@CarLaTeX funny: I was working in television industry when I graduated and I had to work ~ 50hrs a week, study for the last exam, finish my thesis work and of course writing the thesis, all at once. I did not have time to procrastinate a thing, and I had to graduate in time, otherwise another year of tuition fees
It was the time when I learned to stop abusing the \\ command, that I had always used to end lines and paragraphs before
 
@Moriambar I'm a(n old) student-worker, too! When I began studying at the university I was already working, since my family couldn't afford paying tuition fees. I got a diploma in Statistics, a laurea-triennale in Economics and now I'm writing my thesis of the laurea magistrale in Economics... but I take it as an hobby hahahah!
@Moriambar all with a lot of procrastination, of course!
 
@CarLaTeX ehe, my story is a bit different but it results in the same thing.
I have so many hobbies I cannot afford to dedicate to them all at once, and I always hope one of them will become my job (as being a programmer did, with not-that-good results)
I did the same when at the uni :D
 
@CarLaTeX I heard that we have lies, lies disguised as true facts and statistics. :)
 
10:58 AM
@Moriambar I had worked as programmer for 20 years (mainframe, COBOL)! Now I'm some kind of technical support for Risk Management users (SAS, Unix server).
@PauloCereda I totally agree :):):):)
 
@CarLaTeX <3
 
@CarLaTeX How did you manage to do that? I'm tired after 5 years. There's no place for me in the programming world… but I have to pay the bills
 
@Moriambar I think I'm lucky because I work for a bank, hence I only changed department...
 
@CarLaTeX I worked as a consultant… I hate the banking world and I mainly focused on utilities and insurance. Now I'm at some kind of tiny software factory. The pay is good, but the job (which I did not already like) took another step back!
 
@PauloCereda I could send it...
 
11:10 AM
@DavidCarlisle no please. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle I owe you an apology from some days ago: all of the table-related questions on TeX.SE feature any kind of horizontal and vertical separations… :)
 
@CarLaTeX no only english people have that excuse, foreigners are all supposed to have been taught the language properly, we just make it up.
@Moriambar apparently people learn typography by looking at excel
 
@DavidCarlisle yup… tbh I've seen some university math text books typeset with some random word processor and excel tables.
 
@Moriambar I'm so sorry... However, if it's any consolation I always say "if you want to humiliate your intelligence, to repress your creativity and see a lot of idiots make a brilliant career, go to work for a bank!"
 
And also \mathbf{N} printed out as a kerned IN
@CarLaTeX That is true for IT consultancy too, believe me!
 
11:14 AM
@DavidCarlisle There's always Google translator, hahaha!
 
@CarLaTeX by god… my co-workers used to use that and produced the most horrible things that did not make any sense in any language
 
@CarLaTeX Did you try it's Latin capabilities? Really helpful for getting Cicero talk about the internet ;)
 
@Moriambar I believe you! I know many IT consultants!
 
@CarLaTeX alcune persone sono tali linguists naturalmente qualificati che non hanno bisogno di strumenti di traduzione automatica.
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@CarLaTeX IT consultancy in Italy is a sad, sad world, regardless of the company you work for
@DavidCarlisle tali linguists indeed!
 
11:17 AM
@Moriambar Not only in Italy...
 
@TeXnician I cannot talk for the rest of the world… I've seen something in Belgium and it's a bit better. Also a small consultancy company in the US was way better than my reality in Italy
 
@Moriambar Once I saw one who to merge two files did: read first file first record, open second file and read it till you find the matching key, close second file, read first file second record, open second file and read it till you find the matching key, close second file, and so on... and he was wondering why the programm was slow!
@DavidCarlisle You don't believe it but it's almost correct hahaha
 
@CarLaTeX I once interviewed a job candidate asking her how to test for palindromes (i.e. to devise an algorithm which did that) and she answered: I take the first word and put it in an array, then I reverse it, then I put it in another array, then I call the "isPalindrome" function, which someone else has prepared for me.
 
@CarLaTeX I know some people who would do it similarly. Only think about what an asm programmer would do transferring his programs to a fairly modern language (without gotos)...
 
@CarLaTeX I have complete faith in my translations!
 
11:23 AM
@Moriambar hahahaha un mito!
@TeXnician I know also asm programmers hahaha!
@DavidCarlisle I was sure of it! :):):):)
Bye boys! I'm having lunch (no pineapple pizza)
 
so long @CarLaTeX
 
@CarLaTeX never mind, perhaps you will get it as a special treat for easter
 
 
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12:38 PM
@DavidCarlisle No, only chocolate egg treat for Easter :):):)
 
 
1 hour later…
2:00 PM
hi
I have a problem when using \thefield with \xifinlist
see this MWE
why in the first test I get "non" and not "oui", as expected?
 
 
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cfr
3:42 PM
@Moriambar It has attracted one answer requiring deletion since 2012. Why should it suddenly start being a problem now?
 
@cfr just asking: I saw it in the active tab and the new answer looked similar to one posted one or two days before (same pattern at least).
 
cfr
@Moriambar I think protection is generally used for questions where there is a real problem with 'me, too!', 'thanks!' etc. answers so that it would be difficult to keep the question tidy otherwise. There's a cost to protection, so it shouldn't be used unless it is really needed. At least, that's my take on it.
@Maïeul Why don't you ask a question?
 
@cfr I understand, thanks.
@cfr He did and answered himself :P
 
cfr
@Moriambar ;)
@PauloCereda Cwac!
 
Hello! Are there two people willing to help reopen tex.stackexchange.com/questions/361432/…? I think I found out which parts of the linked answer one has to ignore to reproduce the screenshots posted in the question.
 
3:52 PM
@samcarter one done
 
@DavidCarlisle Thanks! Anybody around for the second vote?
 
@samcarter go for it :-)
 
@Johannes_B Merci beaucoup!
 
@samcarter De rien.
No idea if that is right. French lessons hae been a long time ago.
 
@DavidCarlisle Enjoying the good weather?
 
4:01 PM
@JosephWright yes although needed to build a bed:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle ???
 
@JosephWright apparently children get bigger over time
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah
 
@JosephWright impressed with my expl3 coding?
 
@DavidCarlisle :)
@DavidCarlisle I have a feeling xfp will soon overtake xparse in usage terms
 
4:07 PM
TeX.SE is offline?
 
@Moriambar Seems so
 
@JosephWright so what will I do now?? eheh
 
@Moriambar Write packages of course
 
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@Moriambar I'm thinking about the size of coffins ;)
@DavidCarlisle ^^^
 
4:09 PM
@JosephWright I can't do that
 
@Moriambar Site is back :)
 
I don't know how to write a package nor what to write it for
 
@JosephWright presumably ones big enough to stuff 13-year olds into?
 
@JosephWright thanks
 
@DavidCarlisle Also wondering about rotating them around handles: perhaps exorcist
 
4:11 PM
@DavidCarlisle @JosephWright when thinking about coffins I'm thinking about @ChristianHupfer's Count Duckula
 
@JosephWright yes makes sense not so different from the x/y keys on graphicx rotatebox (although I don't see them used much)
 
@DavidCarlisle Exactly: thinking about usefulness
 
@cfr because I hoped a rapid answer here. But I asked, and, one half hour later, I found the solution.
 
@JosephWright specifying rotation origin is simpler to understand if the origin doesn't move and the box rotates around the fixed point but I implemented that once and it didn't seem useful in practice, so went with always adjusting into a +ve sized box after the rotation, but that means \rotatebox is a combined rotate-and-translate so "origin" has to be interpreted with some care:-)
 
@Moriambar Yes, that's my line... I will register it as a Trademark ;-)
 
4:21 PM
@ChristianHupfer I think it would be successful. CountDuckula®™
 
@Maïeul Different catcodes.
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[style=verbose]{biblatex}
\usepackage{filecontents}
\addbibresource{\jobname.bib}
\begin{filecontents}{\jobname.bib}
@book{CPGentry,
    title={CPGtitle},

}
\end{filecontents}


\listxadd{\toto}{\detokenize{CPGentry}}
\listadd{\toto}{CPGtitle}

\renewbibmacro{begentry}{%
 \xifinlist{\thefield{entrykey}}{\toto}{oui}{non}

 \xifinlist{\thefield{title}}{\toto}{oui}{non}

}
\begin{document}
\nocite{CPGentry}

\printbibliography
\end{document}
 
@Moriambar Now I am missing a useful product to sell under that trademark... :D
 
@ChristianHupfer One can think about clothing (it goes with anything), tomato sauce or… coffins
 
@Moriambar Ok, I redefine my request: useful product ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer horror inspired halloween rubber ducks
"to enhance your coding and bathing capabilities but still tickle your nerdy, dark side"
 
4:37 PM
@Moriambar Duck Vader would be another product line: Come to the Dark Side, we have... rubber ducks ...
 
@ChristianHupfer you are a genius
@ChristianHupfer @DavidCarlisle how about Count Duckula's pineapple garlic pizza?
 
@Moriambar Garlic pizza for Count Duckula? ;-) A 'You can eat once in life-time' meal, apparently
@DavidCarlisle They only forgot the pizza dough? ;-) It looks like old bread with a bunch of cheese...
 
@ChristianHupfer of course you have to try and associate two opposite in order to have a successful trademark
 
@UlrikeFischer yes, but I did'nt understand why this problem of catcode. And I found it tex.stackexchange.com/a/362775/7712
 
4:42 PM
@DavidCarlisle I think that pizza is as far from those things in that picture as Italy is from Australia
 
@Moriambar for great pizza, like great wine, you need to go to the southern hemisphere:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle ahha never went there, maybe you're right, but I am quite satisfied with what I have here. Plus I don't drink wine!
 
@Moriambar neither have I:-) But I'm starting to suspect you are not really Italian. @egreg or @CarLaTeX would have exploded by now:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Let me simply say that in Australia I'd carefully avoid any place offering pizza.
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm not as nazi as them… I just don't travel (and refused many job offers who would've brought me abroad) because I'm scared of what I can expect to eat.
@DavidCarlisle and when abroad I carefully avoid the supposedly "Italian restaurants" there
 
4:51 PM
@egreg could you try Mico's document on a Mac? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/362733/typing-in-hindi/…
 
@DavidCarlisle XeLaTeX
@DavidCarlisle LuaLaTeX
I have no Lohit
 
@egreg thanks but you do show more combinations worked with xetex, consistent with my answer. (the lohit font is github.com/google/fonts/blob/master/ofl/lohitdevanagari/… if you wanted to try that as well) I wonder what was happening to Mico, are the fonts available on the mac in multiple formats?
 
@DavidCarlisle They are .ttc
 
@egreg ah, Will made some adjustments for ttc fonts recently I seem to remember
 
@DavidCarlisle Possibly. They're a pain…
 
5:27 PM
@DavidCarlisle First rule for a real Italian: never go to an Italian restaurant abroad! However, I'm not so rigid, I like Spanish cuisine, and I think they have good meat in Germany. I even liked the Clam Chowder when I went to New England. But you can't call Italian a food that isn't Italian! :P
 
5:38 PM
@CarLaTeX I think you will find bad restaurants in any country, regardless whether they claim to cook foreign or 'native' cuisine.
 
@ChristianHupfer Of course! There are bad restaurant also in Italy, especially in places with turists coming and going. Good restaurant usually are "hidden"...
 
@CarLaTeX I think that's a general rule :D
 
@ChristianHupfer The usual tourists' traps! :):):)
 
@CarLaTeX Yes, we have those here too, unfortunately. The traps, not the tourists :D
 
6:05 PM
@ChristianHupfer The tourist are there too… both Italians and foreigners could get trapped :)
 
@ChristianHupfer Isn't the Black Forest turistic? It seems so beautiful!
 
@CarLaTeX Yes, we have tourists, but I referred to the tourist traps
 
@DavidCarlisle Hmm
@DavidCarlisle I have a feeling we are possibly OK as we are, as with a coffin you just place it based on a handle ...
 
6:27 PM
@ChristianHupfer Our tourists traps are more dangerous, here in Hamburg ;-)
 
@StefanKottwitz Reeperbahn? ;-)
 
@StefanKottwitz Oh my ... well, I'll see Udo Lindenberg in two months in his concert in Freiburg
 
@ChristianHupfer I do sometimes on cruise ships... exhibitions or concerts ("Rockliner")
 
@StefanKottwitz Ah, I forgot that those VIPs do shipping tours and provide concert or performances
 
6:37 PM
@ChristianHupfer Oh yes, you have both traps and turists hahaha, sorry for not having read carefully! :):):)
@StefanKottwitz I think there are that kind of traps all over the world :):):)
 
@CarLaTeX I tried hard to find all!
 
@StefanKottwitz :)
 
6:58 PM
@CarLaTeX The last one In found, was last month in Italy ;-) Monfalcone. My friend was roofied in the night club right in the basement of our hotel and lost all money and some stuff he had with him. (I got there later)
 
cfr
7:13 PM
@Maïeul Please come back and say when that happens. Otherwise somebody may spend time trying to solve your problem here, when you've meanwhile posted a solution elsewhere. Leaving an unanswered question when you no longer need the answer is not very nice.
 
7:25 PM
@StefanKottwitz Arghhhhh
 
7:37 PM
@JosephWright yes thought that later as well...
 
8:31 PM
@CarLaTeX You know, what we and our team did in Monfalcone ... building a nice cruise ship, finished end of March. Here we were sailing, at our first stop and sail away in Trieste! (Listen sound at 3:15 onwards :-) )
 
8:42 PM
@cfr. I dont 'understand. I wrote that there were an answer and put the link. What should I do more?
 
8:53 PM
@StefanKottwitz Wow! Impressive!
The love boat hahaha
 
@CarLaTeX It's a great feeling, sailing away for the first cruise, after months of work in a yard
I was surprised though of the melody of the horn :-o did not know that (first ship for us with that cruise line)
But noting can beat that feeling: after 3 weeks of slow satellite Internet on a ship, having fast Internet again at the airport.
 
@CarLaTeX Ossignur
 
@Moriambar Ascolta il suono della sirena 3:30 circa del video di Stefan!
 
@CarLaTeX …
 
9:03 PM
@CarLaTeX Another one at 2:00 here (one might spot me on deck :-o )
 
@StefanKottwitz It was a very famous tv series when I was a teenager!
 
@CarLaTeX As a teenager, I liked the TV series "The last ship"
oh wait, that was a bit after being a teen ;-)
 
@StefanKottwitz but what has LaTeX to do with naval engineering?
 
@CarLaTeX LaTeX is used for technical documentation. For IT and network on ships (not naval).
 
@StefanKottwitz Oooooh
 
9:10 PM
@CarLaTeX Once you realize that typography is everything everywhere at anytime, you'll see the true power of TeX! :P
 
cfr
@Maïeul Sorry, nothing. Probably you just hadn't posted it when I responded to your original question here earlier.
 
ah yeah, I forget
but as that is a chat, I thought that does not matter
 
@StefanKottwitz Oooooh
 
@StefanKottwitz may I ask… why?
 
9:14 PM
@Moriambar Only in the bank environment you can't use it! Hahaha
 
I mean it's awesome but why using specifically a typographical engine to do such a thing? Weren't there better tools?
 
@Moriambar Why not? What else?
 
@StefanKottwitz Dunno, I think you kind of have some overhead from it being thought for typography (I haven't finished reading the document yet)
 
@Moriambar Quality, programming capability, version control
 
9:15 PM
@CarLaTeX Talk for yourself, I did.
 
@CarLaTeX Saw a talk at TUG2015 about using it exactly in that environment ...
 
@StefanKottwitz well, it's fantastic. I'm a bit sad about my TeX ignorance, but it's amazing
 
@JosephWright well, only in the bank where I work I can't use it, then! :(:(:(
 
@DavidCarlisle thanks
 
@Moriambar ^^^^^
 
9:19 PM
@CarLaTeX Got yelled at, praised for the result, but did use in every single environment I've been.
But I don't even know where to begin to study to understand how I could use it for something like @StefanKottwitz project
any suggestions? :)
 
@Moriambar it's very difficult to use it when you have to work with someone who finds Excel complicate!
 
@Moriambar Just use it a lot, things come while using, learn TikZ ;-) and try to automate, experiment with Lua and TeX
 
@StefanKottwitz Ok… but apart the most basic usage of LaTeX I really don't know a thing. Maybe I'm not that creative. But TikZ… yes, I should find a way to learn that. Thanks btw
@CarLaTeX Well, I love producing documentation and whenever I have the occasion I do it with TeX first, then ask if it's allowed :P
 
@Moriambar Not so simple if you have do it together with other people, unfortunately...
 
@CarLaTeX Well, I do it quickly, and I do their part too. At some point one has to cave in, since the company mandates the usage of other tools
@StefanKottwitz btw one of my goals in coming in here was learning by reading Q&A (and sometimes learning by answering), so maybe I'm in the right place :)
Right now I learned only about pineapple pizza and how to avoid it
 
9:36 PM
@Moriambar Hahaha @DavidCarlisle ^^^^
 
@CarLaTeX Yup, in almost two years (I think) on TeX.SE, thanks to @DavidCarlisle I learned about the most disgusting macro \PineapplePrazza which expands to \plain\heresy
 
@Moriambar +1 and 50 point bounty
 
@CarLaTeX lol
 
@Moriambar next you need to learn about cricket
 
@JosephWright I just clicked on an Edit (1) pending link on a question and approved the edit. It then said that it needs one more approval. This makes very little sense to me, since had I edited the question directly, no approval would have been needed. Is there some reason for this?
@Moriambar Pineapple pizza is a favourite in our lab. :)
 
9:49 PM
@AlanMunn it's stupid (and happens all the time:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, it's really silly.
 
@DavidCarlisle it's better than pineapple pizza: it makes me relax and sleep so well, like F1. Once I even fell asleep live at F1 GP in Monza
 
@AlanMunn unlike pineapple pizza which both tastes good and annoys the Italians present
 
@DavidCarlisle Exactly!
 
@AlanMunn I'm sorry, but nothing with pineapple on, in, over, around or under it can be called pizza.
stick with pineapple prazza please :P
 
9:54 PM
@Moriambar So explain this: :P Focaccia di pasta di pane condita con pomodoro, olio, origano, acciughe, mozzarella e infiniti altri ingredienti a piacere, cotta al forno , especially the phrase 'infiniti altri ingrediente a piacere' :)
 
ahah
 
Definition from Grande Dizionario Italiano di Aldo Gabrielli.
 
@AlanMunn I don't know that dictionary. But I admit that even here: treccani.it/vocabolario/pizza (which is an undisputable source :P) it's not specified that the pizza should not be disgusting
(I'm sorry it seems that my english deteriorates after 11 pm).
 
@Moriambar :D
 
@AlanMunn @DavidCarlisle I will give the term pizza, but not its taste! :P
 
10:00 PM
@Moriambar Have you ever tried it, or are you just imagining?
 
@AlanMunn Alas, I tried it
nobody wanted it, I was hungry and it tasted like something that shouldn't be tasted at all
 
@Moriambar Ok, then you are absolutely entitled to your opinion! :) Where was this?
 
@AlanMunn I don't remember, but it definitely was in Italy
 
@Moriambar Really? That's interesting. I just assumed it was a N. American thing. But I think that Italians generally don't like mixing fruit and meat (and a good pineapple pizza has to have ham on it as well) except perhaps prosciutto e melone (which is the same general idea).
 
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10:06 PM
@AlanMunn It was some kind of restaurant which served many kind of pizza with any topping basically
 
@Moriambar ^^ = "definition of Italian restaurant" :-)
 
@AlanMunn and you're right in general, but some meat preparation include some kind of fruit, e.g. polpettone (meatloaf I guess) is often prepare with plums or apricots inside
@DavidCarlisle Definition of Italian restaurant (regardless of the nation where it is located) who is hold and managed by non-italians :D
Also I think there are some preparation with figs, but I don't eat that much read meat and I don't like figs so…
 
@FrankMittelbach I could give you the package as a belated birthday present and you could fix it:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Lol it must be good to have you as a friend :)
 
@Moriambar well how else could I reply to tex.stackexchange.com/questions/362639/… ? :-)
 
10:12 PM
@Moriambar In Germany most Italian Restaurants are in fact managed and owned by Italians, but that is no guarantee that there's a nice atmosphere or delicious food, nor is it for German restaurants hold by Germans ;-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I agree
@ChristianHupfer My father worked in Germany for a month or two back in the day (long story) and he and his employees went to an italian restaurant every evening.
The first day the served them pasta with salad in the same plate…
Then they knew they were italian and started preparing them real italian food. He told me that within a week all the German customers were asking what they (my father and his employees) had been served
 
@Moriambar Oh no, they spoiled the pasta...
 
@ChristianHupfer Well it's common practice I think… when I was in an Italian (real italian) restaurant in London, the Englishmen there asked me why my pasta had arrived without the side salad
(and incidentally why I did order an espresso and not a latte or cappuccino after lunch - yuk-)
 
@Moriambar Perhaps there's a different tradition depending from which part of Italy your fellow countrymen are coming. Perhaps Northern Italian food differs from Southern Italian dishes? In Germany this is the case, to some extent. There is no 'typical' German food.
 
@ChristianHupfer Yes of course. But maybe you misunderstood: it wasn't the restaurant people that were wondering, it was the person from Exeter who offered us that business lunch
 
10:26 PM
@Moriambar No no, I did understand that. I accidentally linked to the another comment of you, it was rather meant to your comment about your father's experience in Germany. But it is strange in both cases that there's such a difference in the way how 'foreigners' are served ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer Well… if people want salad with pasta, they'll get it, that is the philosophy of many Italian restaurants. You have some Italian-inspired cooking that has to be adapted to the taste and traditions of the local culture. It's the same here for chinese restaurants
 

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