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8:00 PM
@0celouvsky But you can help that you willingly ignore the chat rules (whether or not you agree with them is irrelevant).
 
@0celouvsky I cast the flag that suspended you because it was not an appropriate thing to say in this chat room. No voters involved regardless of their seasoning.
 
"Regardless of their seasoning"
@ACuriousMind You say gold sometimes
 
You monster
@DanielSank I don't actually know what the chat rules are
 
@DavidZ You're a C guy, right?
 
They constantly change
 
8:03 PM
@0celouvsky I'm reasonably sure I understand the network rules. I do not understand the moderators' interpretations though.
ACM has explained his notion of "offence". It makes sense, but I am reasonably certain that it differ's from DZ's interpretation.
 
David Z is the Grin Reaper
He hates fun
 
Heh, name calling. Nice.
 
I must be very dense because I don't have any clue what ACM's notion is
 
@0celouvsky It involves QFT
 
Sounds too complicated
 
8:14 PM
ACM's reasoning is suspiciously close to this particular Rogerian psychotherapist
 
that boy needs therapy
 
@JaimeGallego Hmmm?
 
ELIZA is an early natural language processing computer program created from 1964 to 1966 at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory by Joseph Weizenbaum. Created to demonstrate the superficiality of communication between man and machine, Eliza simulated conversation by using a 'pattern matching' and substitution methodology that gave users an illusion of understanding on the part of the program, but had no built in framework for contextualizing events. Directives on how to interact were provided by 'scripts', written originally in MAD-Slip, which allowed ELIZA to process user inputs and engage...
 
THANKYOU
I said that the other day and nobody got the reference
they were like huh?
 
8:17 PM
@JaimeGallego Ah, I know what ELIZA is but I didn't know what branch of psychotherapy she was supposed to embody
 
@DanielSank That's a great band/duo
Their new album is great
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform You need to work on making references in ways that can't be mistaken for insults or trolling by people who don't get the reference :P
 
@ACuriousMind Tsc, you don't know the intricacies of computational psychology? Uncultured swine
 
Please don't insult the leader
@BernardoMeurer they're?
 
@0celouvsky Fixed
 
8:19 PM
@BernardoMeurer If I had admitted intricate knowledge of those things you'd just have taken that as further evidence that I'm an AI...
 
@ACuriousMind I like being misunderstood
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform Tell me why you like being misunderstood.
 
@ACuriousMind I don't think anyone cares whether you're an AI or not
 
@ACuriousMind is... is that a reference?
I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
 
What's a Turing machine?
 
8:22 PM
@AccidentalFourierTransform How long have you been a soul whose intentions are good?
 
I'd like a definition in full Rigor please.
@ACuriousMind how long can you keep this up?
 
@ACuriousMind three
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform Tell me more about three
 
@0celouvsky I can give you one
Are you willing to read ~12 pages?
 
Can you not condense it?
 
Sparknotes
 
@ACuriousMind he's afraid of seven
 
@0celouvsky I don't understand it well enough to condense it in a way that it remains rigorous
I'm sorry :/
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform That is interesting. Please continue.
 
OK YOU WIN
that's why nobody likes you
you heartless psychopath
 
8:24 PM
@0celouvsky Regarding Helgason: It actually was published in 1962, with a slightly different title. The 1978 book is an update.
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform And yes, that was a reference, I just fed your messages into ELIZA :P
 
@Danu aha! So I was right!
 
(and my supervisor was right in saying it's too old :D)
Now I need the odler version though :(
 
@ACuriousMind I have offer from very rich Nigerian man offer 30 million negotiable american currency
 
@Danu y tho
 
8:27 PM
because odler versions are cool
you wouldnt get it
 
@0celouvsky Tracking down a reference. Turns out the reference is... wrong? Sigh...
 
@Danu Are you looking for a newer reference for symmetric/homogeneous spaces? The only newer one I know of is Helgason's second/third book, but that's definitely not what you're looking for.
@Danu M. Ise, M. Takeuchi, Lie Groups I, II, Translations of Mathematical Monographs, vol. 85
(AMS, Providence, 1991)
I don't guarantee that has what you need, but it's newer
Might be older since it's a translation, actually :/
 
Don't worry, I'm set. I was just tracking down some specific claim.
 
hi all
As I understand, a two level atom under the influence of an applied electric field is put into a state of superposition i.e. $c_1|1 \rangle + c_2 |2 \rangle$, then if we consider this process as a function of time then probabilities of absorption and stimulated emission fluctuate at the frequency. In other words $c_1(t)$ and $c_2(t)$ fluctuate with time at a frequency called the Rabi frequency. Is this correct? Thanks.
 
@Danu Gotcha
@Secret Sadly the Bernstein Lemma does not have a nice proof. One can give a proof of the Stone-Weierstrass theorem without using Bernstein polynomials, but it requires one to use Dini's Theorem (to appear later!) to approximate $x\mapsto \sqrt x$ with polynomials. By that point one might as well prove Bernstein's Lemma.
 
9:01 PM
@Secret We first need to get information about the polynomials $r_p(x)={}_n C_px^p(1-x)^{n-p}$ that appear in the expansion. Note that ${}_nC_p$ are just the binomial coefficients. Skipping some fiddling with the binomial formula, we have $$\sum_{p=0}^n r_p(x)=1,\quad \sum_{p=0}^n pr_p(x)=nx,\quad \sum_{p=0}^n p(p-1)r_p(x)=n(n-1)x^2.$$
Using this, we find $$\sum_{p=0}^n (p-nx)^2r_p(x)=nx(1-x).$$

Since $f\in C[0,1]$ is continuous and $[0,1]$ is compact, we suppose $|f(x)|\le M$ in $[0,1]$. We may also assume $f$ is uniformly continuous, i.e. for $\epsilon>0$ there is a $\delta>0$ such that
 
I could flag you for that block of text
its rude
 
Why?
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform You could, but it would not be a valid flag. "posting wall of text/formulae" is not something bad in and of itself, though it may well qualify as rude in certain instances.
 
9:10 PM
@ACuriousMind How was it rude?
No one was talking
 
@0celouvsky It wasn't. That's why it would not be a valid flag.
 
hi all
my question is obvious and related particle physics
 
@ACuriousMind I think im gonna use ⸮ more often around here
Irony punctuation is any proposed form of notation used to denote irony or sarcasm in text. Written English lacks a standard way to mark irony, and several forms of punctuation have been proposed. Among the oldest and most frequently attested is the percontation point proposed by English printer Henry Denham in the 1580s, and the irony mark, used by Marcellin Jobard and French poet Alcanter de Brahm during the 19th century. Both marks take the form of a reversed question mark, "⸮". Irony punctuation is primarily used to indicate that a sentence should be understood at a second level. A bracketed...
 
Looks like a swastika
 
9:13 PM
@0celouvsky Doesn't work, I know how to look up unicode symbols :P
 
lol
it was a reversed question mark
 
@ACuriousMind Huh?
I'm looking at it on your screen shot
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform A ";)" would have also sufficed :P
 
Looks like a swastika on first glance
 
what is the diference between Compton effect and pair production and photoelectric effect
 
9:14 PM
it's a question mark on my screen
 
rude. /s
yeah, Im gonna use that
 
@Student404Mus Pair production produces, well, a pair of electron/positron and the Compton effect doesn't. I'm not sure what kind of difference you're looking for, or rather, why you would consider these potentially similar to begin with.
 
@Student404Mus the only similarity I can even think of is that they involve photon(s), but pair production can't even happen with just one photon because of conservation of momentum afaik.
 
ahm because both of them can happen from the same conditions
 
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A: Frequency of the sound when blowing in a bottle

Karin WrapeI AM A HACKING VICTIM OF AN AUDIO AND VIDEO BUSINESS CALLED MICHAEL'S AUDIO AND VIDEO BASED OUT OF GRAND COUNTY, COLORADO AND THEY HAVE FOLLOWED ME TO SUMMIT COUNTY AND ARE HACKING THE HELL OUT OF EVERY SYSTEM I TRY TO USE. MY PC WAS SAMPLING AUDIO AT 22050Hz THEN AT 44100Hz AND AT THAT POINT BU...

 
9:18 PM
or im wrong?!
 
@ACuriousMind ^^
 
light-matter interaction
 
@ACuriousMind actually, they are all interaction from x-ray with matter, so it's actually a good list?
 
All of kinematics is matter-matter interaction, I wouldn't call everything in it similar though
 
Why was that post deleted?
 
9:19 PM
@ACuriousMind thanks
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform just when you think you've seen it all...
 
@Student404Mus the difference is that they are all different processes with different scattering cross sections at different energies with different atomic-number dependences - but I'd think that for the level you are looking for, wikipedia will do greatly ...
 
Excel ;_;
 
@0celouvsky just look at their user profile physics.stackexchange.com/users/150821/karin-wrape
obvious troll is obvious
 
that doesn't sound like a real last name
 
9:20 PM
@Sanya Well, I can see why one would want to talk about these things as "related", but I can't see how one could be led to thinking they might be actually similar processes.
 
@ACuriousMind well, that is beyond me as well
 
When can I actually sort-of expect to be useful here in SE, what qualification is a good prerequisite to ensure I'm not dragging down the quality of the site?
 
@Phase a PhD for field theories and relativity, a bachelor for anything else ;D
 
@ACuriousMind Photoelectric effect and Compton are very similar
 
9:23 PM
Even classical physics?
 
> I ALSO NOTICED RAINBOWS EVERYWHERE
 
@Phase no seriously, as long as you are interested and think, then you will not be
@Phase it was really, really a joke
 
Oh ahaha sorry
I just like this site because of all the questions I can't answer, makes me feel motivated if i ever start to lose it
 
@AccidentalFourierTransform Bizarrely, Michael's audio and video is a real store in Grand County, apparently
 
the conditions or the reasons are the same for compton and phtoelectric effects ?
 
9:26 PM
what if all she says is actually true
WHAT IF SHE REALLY HAS BEEN VICTIM TO BLEEDING DOWN SOUTH PARTS HER BODY
 
::hands @AccidentalFourierTransform a tinfoil hat::
 
That person is probably in pain :(
that was a cry for help
@ACuriousMind you should send them an email making sure they're ok
@ACuriousMind Is the German word for 'domain' (connected open set in $R^n$) "gebiet"
 
@0celouvsky yep
 
So what I'm confused
The person is saying the Hacker has hacked their eyes and skin?
Augmentations when?
 
9:35 PM
what's this?
 
lol
that's amazing
she says her phone number
I dare one of you to text her
 
"KIDS IN LIGHTPOLE AT TARGET-NOW LIGHT DON'T WORK-CREEPY"
Is this one of the only frequented physics rooms? Or is there one that I could be in to help a bit more.. The stuff here is a few thousand miles too high over my head to read let alone critique : p
 
This is the only one
although we do more math than physics
 
@Phase It's the only active physics room, but the topics change rather considerably depending on who's active
You can find anything from electric circuits over basic quantum mechanics to string theory and various math topics depending on when you come by. If you have something you want to talk about, don't hesitate to throw it in
 
9:42 PM
Huh, @ACuriousMind : A connected topological group embedded in a Banach algebra is a Lie group if and only if it is locally compact.
 
(but also don't necessarily expect everyone to immediately latch on to your topic)
 
Oh ok, thanks, I've asked a question before and gotten a really good answer so I'll be sure to again if I have a question : )
 
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Q: Commutators, Measurement, and Causality in QFT

AaronIn Peskin and Schroeder pg. 27-28, they discuss Klein-Gordon theory and causality. For a spacelike separation $(x-y)^2 < 0$, they show that $$\langle 0| \phi(x)\phi(y) |0\rangle \neq 0$$ They go on to say that what one should be looking at isn't whether particles can propagate over space-like in...

See, Peskin is a bad book
 
> we shall be concerned with a commutative Banach algebra
god dammit why do algebraists always assume commutativity!
It's so unnatural
 
@0celouvsky I guess that makes sense since $\mathbb{Q}\subset\mathbb{R}$ is a standard example for a topological-but-not-Lie group and it's not locally compact, but the if and only if is surprisingly strong
@AccidentalFourierTransform Be happy, it gives you something to answer ;)
 
9:47 PM
Yosida doesn't give the proof, I was just wondering if you'd heard of it
 
if I answer "Throw Peskin away" would you delete the answer?
 
Nope, my scant knowledge about topological groups is entirely disjoint from my knowledge about Lie groups
@AccidentalFourierTransform I guess I would upvote it, then delete it :D
 
fml
I'm gonna leave the chat for 1 year and I'll be back once I know a decent amount of physics/math like you guys because I feel left out right now. deleting account bye!
 
wat
 
9:50 PM
???
 
That was a joke right?
 
If he can catch up in one year, he's way ahead of me
 
I think that was obe
@ACuriousMind I'm finally learning some algebra!
I now know what an ideal is
 
Woulda thought ocelot would've known that for a while
Ideals and memes and whatnot
 
9:54 PM
@ACuriousMind Yosida calls $B/J,$ $B$ an algebra, $J$ an ideal, the "residue class algebra"
is that what algebraists actually call it
 
No, that's a "quotient ring"
 
so what's a residue class algebra
 
The same, it's just a somewhat unusual name for it
I do recall my algebra prof calling it a Restklassenring sometimes
 
Yeah Yosida really likes German
Seems strange for a Japanese guy
Or...not
Wonder what he was up to in the early 40s
 

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