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8:04 PM
@Randal'Thor I was really thinking over the course of the week we all read it and talk about it and ask questions about it.
 
@Benjamin Oh right, so more like a topic challenge than a chat event.
 
@Randal'Thor Yeah.
 
That would be awesome, but like Mick said, we might have to wait until we're a bit bigger to have enough traffic and volume to make such a thing worthwhile.
 
@Randal'Thor Well, also part of what I was thinking was so that all of us with our various interests could ask and answer about one thing.
 
Related reading from another beta site.
 
8:08 PM
@Randal'Thor We have already almost surpassed them in numbers.
 
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@Benjamin What do you mean, about one thing?
 
@Ash One book.
 
user15026
I can see that possibly being fun, to bring the community together and things
 
user15026
I know we tried to do a sort of book club thing with the last iteration of Literature, to mixed results.
 
user15026
I like excuses to read books I might not consider otherwise :)
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8:22 PM
Can we copy questions from elsewhere with modification or attribution?
 
@Benjamin Yes. Preferably both.
 
@Randal'Thor Thanks!
 
yawn
Finally, home, where my device won't die and I have Internet.
 
@Mithrandir 777 rep, nice.
 
yep
 
8:31 PM
I'm one vote short of the next privilege.
Working on a few questions to post.
 
mod tools?
 
@Randal'Thor Got any good posts right now?
 
I'm writing and question/answer about dwarves.
28 secs ago, by Rand al'Thor
Working on a few questions to post.
 
literature.stackexchange.com/questions/487/… How could I better break up the stanzas here?
@Mithrandir That came through after my question for me.
 
@Benjamin I'm planning to post a question next, but I'm just slightly too lazy/busy to find my hardcopy and check the facts I need for the question.
 
8:32 PM
I'm trying to get a Good Answer badge...
 
@Randal'Thor Cool!
 
There are a few answers I've already posted which haven't had much recognition ... but then, it is the weekend.
 
@Randal'Thor that's hardly a spoiler, that title.
 
@Mithrandir It is if someone only knows about Holmes on a general level and hasn't read many of the stories.
 
> It is with a heavy heart that I take up my pen to write these the last words in which I shall ever record the singular gifts by which my friend Mr Sherlock Holmes was distiguished.
-The first sentence of the story
 
8:40 PM
@Mithrandir Yes, but not the first sentence of all Sherlock Holmes stories ever.
 
True. Whatever, it's just a title.
 
@Randal'Thor Admit it. Answering questions about WitW is much more fun (I'm cooking up another one). ;-)
 
@Mick Looking forward to that! I still have an online version of the book open in another tab.
I thought of a WitW question too actually.
 
@Randal'Thor Congrats on being the first to hit 1k.
 
YAY!
Thanks :-D
 
8:50 PM
@HDE226868 *hit
 
(Groan) Why is Literature the site I keep making typos on?
 
@HDE226868 Murphy
 
Would a self answered question about female dwarves with beards be well received?
(that sounds odd)
 
@Mithrandir I agree
@Mithrandir *question
 
@TrojanByAccident *Muphry's Law
Wow, three deleted answers on the Ender's Game question.
 
8:53 PM
@Randal'Thor ? to both
 
And one of them has been edited from a link-only answer into a really good one, so I flagged for undeletion.
Oh, wait, the good version of that answer was actually reposted.
 
I notice that close votes seem to keep disappearing from this question (it was at four, now it's two). Do people think it's on-topic?
 
Thank goodness for flag retraction, I guess.
 
The Literature beta is doing really well! How exciting.
 
Oof, does anyone know where I can copy-paste from Appendix A of RotK?
This is annoying, this quote typing.
 
8:57 PM
@TrojanByAccident Muphry's Law; the Ender's Game question.
@HDE226868 I do (and left a comment to say so).
 
ah. theres that bounty
 
@Randal'Thor Ah. never heard of it
 
@Mithrandir No, but I know how to find such a place. Try this.
 
@Randal'Thor Already checked.
I only have physical copies of LOTR.
 
That question about Sherlock Holmes reminds me of "Beam me up, Scotty"
 
9:04 PM
Alright, let's see how that question/answer goes...
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Q: Do the female Dwarves in Tolkien's Legendarium also have beards?

MithrandirIn RotK, Appendix A, there's this quote about female dwarves: Dís was the daughter of Thrain II. She is the only dwarf-woman named in these histories. It was said by Gimli that there are few dwarf-women, probably no more than a third of the whole population. They seldom walk abroad except at ...

 
@Mithrandir Sorry, had to downvote the answer. It just gives the same quote as in the question and says "yes, that means what you think it means".
 
That's why I though that it might be downvote-attractive.
 
@Randal'Thor Congrats on breaking the 1K barrier!
 
@Mithrandir Then why post the answer in the first place? :-)
Thanks @DJM!
 
Well, I could let someone else post the answer.....
 
9:08 PM
I'm wondering why the question was downvoted
 
So maybe I'll delete the answer and let someone else do it? Any volunteers? :P
That was an easy answer, but I'm not sure if it's on-topic...
 
@Randal'Thor But it might also be quite a bit more time-consuming.
 
Sure.
Depending on the length of the book, and how fast one reads.
 
@Randal'Thor And of course reading and chatting is a little harder than watching and hearing and chatting (if you really thought about simultaneous chat).
 
@NapoleonWilson I would say the other way round (unless you have two computer screens, one for the film and one for the chatroom).
Shrinking a film and a chatroom to separate halves of the screen makes both of them annoying.
 
9:15 PM
@Randal'Thor Uh wut? So you really can read an actual literary text while simultaneously reading people's chat replies and writing your own replies? o_O
 
Whee, I'm among the first 3 to get at least two Enlightened badges....
 
@Randal'Thor I'm not talking about your computer, I'm talking about your brain (or mine at least).
 
@NapoleonWilson Yes. I read very fast.
 
@Mithrandir It all depends on where the beards are. :P
 
One time I was sitting next to somebody on a long journey, each of us reading a book, and I read each double-page spread of their book each time they turned the page, while simultaneously keeping up with my own book.
 
9:19 PM
Well, then I'm simply dumb. I couldn't ever imagine such a chat to work even remotely.
 
@Randal'Thor That's impressive
 
@Randal'Thor I've done that.
I improved the Lorem Impsum answer, hopefully...
 
@Mithrandir Impsum?
 
@TrojanByAccident typo
 
@Mithrandir Muphry is strong with this chat
 
9:27 PM
I like posting short answers and then expanding on them, such as adding more info and sources...
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A: Is Lorem ipsum considered a poem?

MithrandirNo. The text isn't even real latin; it's been edited to make no sense. It's literally nonsense text. The lorem ipsum text is typically a scrambled section of De finibus bonorum et malorum, a 1st-century BC Latin text by Cicero, with words altered, added, and removed to make it nonsensical, i...

So hopefully that's better now and the -1 will be reversed...
 
I'm wondering why the question is downvoted
it's perfectly valid
 
@Mithrandir Posting short decent answers and then expanding them into impressively long and magnificent answers, a la Jason Baker, is different from posting low-quality answers and then expanding them into decent ones, like I've seen a couple of people doing here.
 
@Randal'Thor That's correct. That's why I try to make sure that the answer has at least 1 source, and can stand on it's own, before I post it.
 
@TrojanByAccident I'm considering VTCing as opinion-based.
How do you define whether something is a poem?
 
@Randal'Thor Fair point.
 
9:32 PM
To me it's obvious that it was part of a philosophy book and then nonsense-ified that it's not a poem...
 
So maybe I'm being too harsh on Mith's answer. "It's not a poem because it's nonsense" may not be a good argument, but if there is no good argument that can answer the question, that's not really the answer's fault.
 
o_O How'd I get 9 flags before we even have mods yet...?
 
@Mithrandir Technically, though, anything can be called a poem. Just say it's free-verse
 
@Mithrandir We have CMs.
 
@TrojanByAccident But usually only if the author intended it to be a poem, which is obviously not the case here.
@Randal'Thor Yeah, that's how I got DVK's answer deleted :P. The rest are comments, I think.
 
9:35 PM
Anyway, I've voted to close the question and reversed my downvote on Mith's answer.
 
Thank you :D
(Although I would have liked you to actually reverse it... :P)
 
@Mithrandir ?
 
@Randal'Thor Undo = remove down/upvote. Reverse - turn downvote into upvote, or vice versa.
 
@Mithrandir Yeah, I guess
 
9:53 PM
If any of you are looking for a really interesting literary analysis question that is also pretty easy to answer (it doesn't take much googling to find the author's take on the poem, as well as several scholar's take on it), take a look at my question on Robert Frost
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Q: Why does Robert Frost contradict himself in "The Road Not Taken"

HamletIn Robert Frost's poem "The Road Not Taken" (which you can read online), the narrator gives two contradictory reasons for taking a particular fork in the road. At the beginning of the poem, the narrator emphasizes that both roads are essentially equal. The narrator specifically states that both...

 
@Hamlet I'm already writing up an answer.
 
@Randal'Thor you'll want to at the very least take a look at what Robert Frost said about that poem
 
@Hamlet Already have. Got a Frost quote at the very beginning of my answer :-)
 
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Time to ask a question I actually have about the lyrics in a song.
 
Somebody needs to ask a question about an opera, so that we can reopen that meta post.
 
user61230
9:59 PM
I have real questions about The Dolls of New Albion and Hadestown that I can ask in mind.
 
Religious questions incoming. This could be interesting.
 
10:18 PM
@Randal'Thor Uh, oh.
 
There are 4 books? Huh, interesting.
 
@Mithrandir yes
I have them all
 
Guess I should read the other three.
@TrojanByAccident so maybe you can answer my question :)
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Q: What happened at the end of The Giver?

MithrandirAt the end of The Giver, Jonas and Gabe head down through the snow to a place where there are celebrations. Downward, downward, faster and faster. Suddenly he was aware with certainty and joy that below, ahead, they were waiting for him; and they were waiting, too, for the baby. For the firs...

 
There, I've rewritten a classic poem in more modern and understandable language, including the line "Oh, whatever, I dunno." I'm either going to give everyone a good chuckle or get totally flamed off the site, and I'm not sure which :-P
 
@Mithrandir More or less. I would have to go based on what I remember of the last one, though, cause I lost it :/
I can tell you right now that they did not die or go back in time
 
10:21 PM
You have rep at stake! Don't waste your time chatting, :P
 
@Randal'Thor I heard that there's a good opera about a guy who lost his nose.
 
@Mithrandir We should have deleted that whole "I didn't bother with basic googling" question :(
 
@Mithrandir I can't answer the main question :/
 
@TrojanByAccident why not?
 
10:26 PM
Because I have absolutely no idea what it means
I can answer the other questions with certainty
 
What, my question? You don't understand my question?
 
@Mithrandir I don't know what happened there
and the relevant text is mostly in Son, the 4th book
which I lost :/
 
I encourage people to ask Rick Riordan questions ;)
I have all of the books. :P
 
:P
I have all the harry potter books
and the offshoots
except deathly hallows and the cursed child, sadly :/
 
I have the main hp series, and tcc
And I watched fbawtft
 
10:31 PM
fbawtft?
 
>.<
 
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Q: Had people related the work of Gogol before "The Nose"?

BenjaminIn The Nose, an opera by Demitri Shostakovich, Shostakovich combines many of Nikolai Gogol's stories, including The Nose, for which the opera is named, into a single story. Had previous critics or writers analyzed the works of Nikolai Gogol as a single story?

 
>} <
 
^ Mostly serious opera question.
 
@Benjamin hah
Great
 
10:32 PM
@Mithrandir Note the 'mostly' serious
 
I mentioned that opera, that is why you asked, right?
 
@Mithrandir Yes.
 
what is fbawtft?
 
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Then
 
10:33 PM
New Harry Potter movie
 
I had a question but I forgot it
 
@Mithrandir I know what the movie is
@Mithrandir I have the book
 
Ah
K
 
Also, I'm just going to tell you what I know about your question here
because I don't have enough information to post a complete answer
I don't remember how exactly they got there, but Jonas actually ends up making his own village, in a group of woods
Gabe also is with him, and they have a happy community
iirc, he has a so
 
10:39 PM
Where did the other people come from?
 
Other villages
 
Yep. People are downvote happy during private beta...
I like complaining :P
 
don't we all
 
Working on an answer to this.
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Q: How accurate are the laws in Theodore Boone?

MithrandirIntTheodore Boone, John Grisham mentions several laws, such as about putting flyers on poles, drunk driving, and other random laws. How accurate are these? Are real laws, anywhere?

 
10:55 PM
that reminds me of the place where we used to live; we weren't allowed to put yard sale signs on signposts and power poles; they made us take them down.
so we had to tape the sign to a cardboard box, and set that next to the road sign; that was allowed.
 
Answered.
 
I see. I added quotes.
 
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