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Dog
12:00 AM
@MichaelFrank Ah, I've never had 2013. For long
 
@JourneymanGeek is mine at "1"?
 
50 an hour.. thats 5 ice creams per hour! how can you manage
Hey thats what mine's at Burgi!
 
@Dog Oh, it's still there apparently. Just harder to find.
 
@Burgi yes, its a number greater than zero, and less than 2
 
i got suspended by bwDraco for posting a duke nukem screenshot
 
12:01 AM
what's mine @JourneymanGeek ?
 
and whoever flagged that has utterly no appreciation of the classics
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere more than it should be, less than you deserve.
 
ahh yes.
well please, is there a rule for spamming? I can definitely break that rule so that you can get what you want
 
@JourneymanGeek it was bwDraco when he was still a grumpy mod
 
@JourneymanGeek "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
 
@Burgi I don't think he was ever a mod. Prolly just a flag
 
12:03 AM
he used to be blue
 
JMG is black on my screen
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I'd rather people behave well enough that I can occationally overlook their minor transgressions.
 
maybe a mod on another site?
 
@Burgi you're totally mistaken
 
hmm...
shrug
 
12:04 AM
how have I misbehaved recently?
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere you've told everyone, blow by blow about your crazy win10 install
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere well, its more a general thing
@Burgi said it
 
well that's what I do, if it's infringing to share my experiences then feel free to suspend me as soon as I do so
 
@Burgi Huh? He's not a mod.
 
@DavidPostill i thought he was at the time
 
12:06 AM
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere the 0th rule of chat is the chat must flow
If conversations are going on, its cool. If you flood the chat with a play by play of what you're doing, the chat does not flow
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere it would have been better as a mildly amusing blog post
 
Dog
I'm gonna miss that Obama guy when he's gone
 
failed to parse rule 4294967296 ... buffer OVERflow
 
@JourneymanGeek Is it like indirectly acquiring a lock to the chat and everyone else waits for me to free it (when I stop play by playing and a set allotment of time passes) ?
 
12:10 AM
I swapped out my AC router for a switch. not happy with the wifi performance now :(...
 
Dog
Oh I need an AC router
Where's me AC router
I hate TP-Link
 
I've not hated TP-Link
 
oh AC I got it you're talking about the new beamforming technology
 
Dlink is terrible
and I swear, my apartment is pretty much the worst design possible for wifi, and I can't even lay it out properly
 
cool I agree, I buy TPlinks myself
am I exposing my legs to radiation by having the router right by my legs
 
12:13 AM
(mesh wifi appeals to me, but its probably going to suck)
 
See ya, have fun!
I'm using my TP-Link as a glorified AP at this point. I really should use it to it's full potential, but double NAT is annoying.
 
Dog
Oh I've run meshes with TP-Links, they're awesome
They just suck
dammit girl made me not show
er
 
@Dog I think we're memed out ;p
 
Dog
@Burgi I'm not a cat roleplaying a dog. I'm simply a cat. It just happens my name was changed to 'Dog' without my consent, then I changed it to something else, then changed it back again because it was funny cats are indecisive like that.
Ooh I should be able to bring ice cream home easily tonight since it's 0'c outside
 
12:20 AM
clearly the humour was so sophisticated it had escaped me
 
Dog
Apparently going as low as -2'c
Except my bike's on the other side of town so I can't go far
Oh yeah i should probably do something about that big hole in the side too before too much water/ice gets in and destroys the electronics >_>
 
its a sunday night, is there anywhere open that will be selling icecream?
 
duct tape?
 
i just found out a girl i failed to date has just sold her company for £2.1mil
 
Dog
"Demisexual" huh
@Burgi Wow
 
12:28 AM
what the hell is demisexual?
are there really 10 genders?
 
Dog
@Burgi I had to urbandictionary it too
 
You're not sexually attracted to anyone until it suddenly "clicks".
Or something like that anyway.
 
Dog
> Demi- is a prefix meaning half. This is used to mean halfway between sexual and asexual. The term originated in the asexual community, specifically within the Asexual Visibility and Education Network (AVEN).
Well that clears that up
@MichaelFrank Isn't that like... everybody?
 
Bob
@Dog "half" was my first guess
 
12:30 AM
she sounds like hardwork
 
Dog
Aside from those who are sexually attracted to anything with a pulse...
 
amusingly, I used to hang around on AVEN when I was younger
 
Bob
@Dog The ones who are attracted to anything without a pulse are... further outside the norm.
 
and asexuals actually have a pretty nuanced and clever way of describing relationships
 
@JourneymanGeek aka "weird"
 
Dog
12:31 AM
 
@Burgi that's excessively judgemental
 
@Dog Yea, but they don't get sexual or feel sexually attracted to anyone until they are emotionally bonded with them.
 
Dog
Bisexual, now that works
@Bob Ahem
 
essentially they 'seperate' the physical and emotional parts of a relationship when talking about it.
which makes a fair bit of sense if you think about it
 
i'll be honest, i don't think i have met anyone who has claimed to be asexual
 
Bob
12:33 AM
@Dog Yet Another Online Dating Site?
 
Dog
I've known a few, lived with two, got asked out by one
 
@Burgi used to identify as such till I was about my early 20s
 
then what happened?
 
Dog
@Bob One that puts the "Save" button next to the "Hide and block" button
@Burgi He became canine-sexual
 
er. Got attracted to someone in an emotional, romantic sense, and then... well, things got messy.
 
12:34 AM
"messy" ;)
 
Dog
@JourneymanGeek That sounds like how most early relationships work
 
Oh, in a social sense as well
 
in public?! Deviant. ;)
 
lol
 
Bob
@Dog Ha. Is it one of the newer ones, or more established?
Not that either necessarily has good UX.
 
12:36 AM
right i need to go and have a shower
 
:33629485 One of my first girlfriends decided she liked girls after we broke up. My friends still give me shit about it and say it was my fault. >.<
 
(the fact that I have quite a few transgendered and alphabet soupy friends is why I sometimes am a tiny bit protective when people start talking ... insensitive stuff to people outside the standard social binary)
@MichaelFrank my friend was a particularly odd one
he also disappeared from our shared online social circles and randomly turns up to say hi. then vanishes again
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Eh, that happens all the time :P
 
not the reappearing and saying hi like NOTHING happened and vanishing again ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek That reminds me I have a few groups I should probably pop in to and do the whole hi-then-vanish routine :P
 
12:41 AM
lol
speaking of which
 
Bob
(it's been almost a year since I last logged into facebook...)
 
I need to redo my hexchat config
apparently a recent update broke it and I've basically been dragging my config around 3 forks for ever a decade
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Oh, I also learned it's probably not the best idea to keep znc logs forever
hexchat takes about two hours to load now...
 
lol
I think I keep 500 lines
 
Bob
> You used an old password. If you have forgotten your current password, you can request a new one.
 
12:43 AM
but I pop into my old IRC haunts
 
Bob
...fuck
 
and wonder WHY THE HELL AM I STILL HERE?
 
Bob
ok, I have no idea what my password is O_O
> New! Log In Faster
Instead of typing your password, tap your profile picture when you login on this phone.
Hm. That would probably work better if I bothered to set up a profile picture.
@JourneymanGeek Because why not? :P
That, or you forgot how to leave a channel in znc? :P
 
lol
I quite literally am in these rooms simply cause I've been there for the last... I donno, 11 or 12 years?
 
Bob
in The Nineteenth Byte, 8 hours ago, by Bob
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC why not?
:P
I just think of it as, ah... testing the limits
 
12:49 AM
lol
 
Bob
(that's also my excuse for having about a thousand tabs and ten thousand bookmarks)
Hm. Five minutes on Facebook and I'm suddenly reminded why I left.
 
1:03 AM
i think next week might be interesting...
 
Bob
@Burgi plsno
 
we have to beat the network admin passwords out of the "IT director"
 
Bob
 
we have had two external companies quote us for tech support, both are vastly cheaper than the solution he has in place currently
 
not to worry unused hard disk is wasted hard disk, MS will free it up as needed :-)
 
1:12 AM
here is a brief rundown of the IT failings:
- No UPS
- Mac Mini running as a Windows domain controller
- no back up for aforementioned mac mini
- No AV
- No firewall
- Second internet line does not failover
- No asset list to track kit (some has gone walkies)
- No guest wifi network
- Open network shares
- No local backup
- Offsite backup is done via dropbox
 
My current post (which has a global staff of around 160,000 users) matches two of those failings :P
 
oh and tech support is provided by some surfer guy on the east coast of australia
so if he isn't asleep he's off out surfing
@MichaelFrank i'm going to guess no asset list and no guest wifi?
 
@Burgi You got one of the two. Currently the UPS is in Bypass, and the Asset List doesn't seem to exist.
 
> - Mac Mini running as a Windows domain controller
0_0
 
i kid you not
 
1:19 AM
@Burgi running windows server?
 
server 2012 r2
 
Also, how many users, and is this the main company or a client?
 
this is the main company
roughly 40 users
 
A good chunk of these seem 'trivial' to fix
 
exactly
but they have been running with this infrastructure for about 12months
 
1:21 AM
Actually with that number of users, the mac mini ... probably has the grunt?
but if it dies, you're fished.
 
yeah, i agree
we have a mac pro doing the filesharing
 
"we have a mac pro doing the filesharing"
 
yeah
 
the horror. The hairy hairy horror
 
i told you it was bad
 
1:23 AM
tbh, grabbing a pair of 'proper' low end servers....
 
and this mac pro has no local backup
 
and throwing the mac pro to a graphics designer...
 
its trying to push 25TB up to dropbox
 
heh. tbh, considering how fucked up your setup is, a consumer nas might not be a bad...
wait what?
25tb?
 
we are a marketing and design company
its all huge PSDs and indesign stuff
 
LOL
 
So we're talking a 4 bay minimum
and that's with 8tb drives
what's the mac pro run, and how much are you paying dropbox?
 
OSX and LOTS
enough to pay my wages for a year
 
@Burgi crashplan would likely be an option store.crashplan.com/store
once again tho
do you have (at the very least) the authority to make changes?
 
yeah
 
1:28 AM
since it feels like you could just put the money you save into unfucking stuff
 
me and the production manager have been given full authority
 
@wat Oh, Do keep up.
 
oh and another thing... the network shares are hosted out from the dropbox folder
 
NOPE NOPE NOPE
 
so each time someone saves to the network it forces dropbox to resync EVERYTHING
 
1:29 AM
what's the advantage of dropbox here?
Backups?
 
there isn't one
@JourneymanGeek yeah, in theory
its a consumer grade solution though
 
tbh, if you had the budget, you sound like you need a large disk array ;)
 
hence why at 1TB+ it becomes insanely expensive
 
yup
and dropbox isn't really designed to scale for huge files
hmm. How would I do this...
 
come up with a plan and a cost, if its under £25k/yr you are on the shortlist....
 
1:32 AM
lol
I need to grab limonicelli
and take into account you guys don't have a proper sysadmin
also, I er... do this for fun
 
and singapore is closer than australia so the overlap means you might be able to provide tech support...
;)
we will keep moving our tech support west until it is in the same timezone....
 
lol
or I can tap into my network ;p
 
it'll be a company in botswana or something but atleast its the same timezone!
 
do rackmounts make sense?
are we looking at long term, proper or "good enough" ?
 
good enough.... for now
in the last 12 months our IT spend has been close to £92k...
 
1:37 AM
ah
 
92,000 pounds!
thats nearly a house!
 
do you guys do entirely copper or is fibre an option for storage?
 
there is fibre between the building floors
then cat6 to the desks
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Now I want to see data permanently stored on fibre.
 
and wifi ac throughout
 
Bob
1:39 AM
oh, so some things are modern :P
 
@Burgi wifi? Servers? ;p
so, you can pick up an 8 bay 'prosumer' nas for under a grand
 
it wouldn't surprise me
oh i forgot to mention the VoIP is on the same subnet as the data
 
fill it up with 8fb disks...
and that gives you a ton of room
pair that up with 2 servers running ESXi or HyperV and throw your DC there
 
so when the leases run out on the desk phones, laptops and mobiles steal the IPs
 
(so, failover)
@Burgi erf.
no vlan tagging and such?
 
1:43 AM
I need to restart my server at home... but it throws a warning on boot because of a dodgy fan. :<
 
lol
(also, while freenas seems shiny, if its for a business, warranties matter)
 
not that i know of
anyway
 
email me your "quote" in the morning ;)
 
Oh, I know. I can get my wife to hit F1 on the keyboard.
 
1:47 AM
lol
 
...should probably have checked that she's home. And that nobody was watching anything on PLEX.
Sysadmin is a hard life.
 
btw, that goes for everyone, if you want to quote for it, email me.... ;)
 
Bob
^ not dodgy at all, nope :P
 
Success! I managed to get my wife to plug in a USB keyboard, hit F1 to clear the error and it's back online now.
 
she'll be doing you out of a job soon!
nn all
 
2:00 AM
Good night
 
Dog
New personal record, Ewart for ze my ears off do tis
 
Oops.... I guess I hadn't patched my server in a while. Round 3 of restarts. D:
 
Dog
Ermm what I was trying to say was nearly froze my paws off for this, but I was so cold my typing had a resolution of approximately 1/4 of the entire keyboard
It's obnoxiously difficult to get 300Mbps over 4G
At least over 2x20Mhz. Obviously would be easier over 3x20
 
wat
2:23 AM
> tfw phone only supports 5mbps 4g (not even lte)
> tfw home internet connection is faster than your mobile
@Dog
 
@Burgi actually... I have a super rough setup of what I'd suggest already ;p
For Servers I'd build off a Poweredge T330 to replace your mac mini (and in theory, possibly the mac pro). For storage - a synology DS1815+ with seagate 8tb drives, or whatever you have on the mac pro right now.
I really need more experience with this sorta thing :(
 
Dog
3:11 AM
@wat wat?
@JourneymanGeek ORLY
 
Yeah, really.
 
Dog
@JourneymanGeek ORLYRLY?
For home or for work?
 
@Dog read up. Kinda work.
I'd totally do DIY if it was a home setup
prolly a similar nas but I'd throw a VM cluster on a series of NUCs ;p
 
Dog
yesterday, by Dog
Cats don't read.
Also apparently there are three users named dog, and one named dog ears
I managed to use 85GB of mobile data in the space of two hours just doing Speedtests
Which brings my total usage to 135GB so far this month.
My operator must hate me.
 
3:27 AM
I hate you. That much data would cost me $2250.
 
Mobile data here is ridiculously expensive.
I don't think anyone offers unlimited usage either.
 
@MichaelFrank and that is just to display the advertisments :-) (background data on)
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank It's been getting better here. Kinda. If you're fine with the worst network.
 
it exists here
and isn't that bad
and we have price caps
MR's promising unlimited data for ~60 quid a month tho
 
Bob
3:30 AM
Oh, unlimited doesn't exist here.
Well, general unlimited.
I think Optus does unlimited audio streamng.
Pretty new thing though.
 
The plan with the most data here is $169 p/m, for 20GB.
That also includes a Spotify Premium and Lightbox account.
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank Yea, ovo (on Optus) recently (~3 months?) came out with a $60/m for 50 GB
The network situation is ... weird.
Telstra has the best coverage and speeds. Most expensive.
Vodafone has terrible coverage outside metro areas, but good/great speeds inside.
Optus has second-best coverage, but speeds... urk.
And that was before they started offering large amounts of data.
 
Bob
3:49 AM
floof
 
4:08 AM
I dont have anymore data on the phone, because I ran out of kidneys, and 2 months for a lung or heart isnt really worth it.
this month my (excessive) usage on the cable at home, was 4-5 times that. making mobile unlimited high speed usage costing more than a home mortgage.
choices choices, live in some sort of shelter, or be homeless with data :-)
 
wat
4:30 AM
> tfw "only" 15gb data
> tfw had 300mb for two years before
 
5:22 AM
@Psycogeek That plan costs more than my salary
 
Bob
@HackToHell weekly/monthly/yearly/etc.?
 
monthly ;p
 
it is stuff like that why we should all buy an AMD processor, just for kicks :-) Otherwise when intel is a monopoly , we will all need 5yr loans to buy $5000 processors.
 
Is that yearly ?
 
Luckily I'm not an evil mod. Else I'd change @Dog's nick to mittens ;p
 
Bob
5:47 AM
4
Q: Is hunting animals, crafting and attacking/defending from enemies intelectually equivalent to quantum physics?

FabioROur brains were shaped after natural selection. Which means that, as long as we were being affected by it, our brains were changing, evolving. Once we stepped out of nature and stopped being targets of natural selection, our brains (structurally speaking) stopped changing. Civilizations rose, h...

that title...
 
ahh i was just trying to figure that out myself. 2 people get caught in a time-warp. One person is from 1916, and the other is from 2016, who has the most ammount of work required to blend into thier new enviroment?
 
@Bob wat
 
Bob
@HackToHell yes
 
The genious from 2016, has no idea how to farm, he dies in less than 1 year.
The idiot from 1916 , now trapped in 2016 , has to learn how to drool, move a mouse around, and type text on a small keyboard.
 
5:54 AM
ever been to him @JourneymanGeek ?
 
Bob
@allquicatic the head in that thumbnail looks too big
 
@allquicatic no, on account of being veggie
 
Bob
@Psycogeek ...1916 is long after industrialisation...
 
@Psycogeek just cause you're angry people moved on from banging rocks together to make fire.... dosen't mean matchsticks are tools of the devil
@allquicatic er... no? ;p
for somewhat obvious reasons ;p
 
did you answer me twice? O.o
 
Bob
5:56 AM
@allquicatic nah, you're seeing things
@allquicatic I don't think he did
 
>_>
Apparently I did
 
@Bob GDI now you're doing it too
 
I'm slightly distracted
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek things going alright over there?
 
Yeah
Literally got word the surgery was done five minutes ago
and its a success
 
Bob
5:57 AM
@JourneymanGeek \o/
 
a (flint) lighter is just a slightly more sofisticated method of banging rocks together, The average human of today wouldnt know how to even find flint :-)
 
We had a heart attack scare on sat too
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek O_O
 
or as I said to someone **** the symptoms of gas and heart attacks are almost too similar.
and we called an ambulance.
lol yeah
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek iirc, the symptoms of a heart attack and panic attack were close, and guess what makes the latter worse...
 
6:00 AM
yup
 
Bob
hm
JNA isn't as bad as I had expected
Still prefer P/Invoke though
 
Bob
6:16 AM
@allquicatic how much was your curved monitor?
 
6:57 AM
barks at channel
 
Bob
7:23 AM
@JourneymanGeek floof
 
7:44 AM
that went 'well'
I was planning on cleaning my desk
desk looks the same. rest of the room is tidier ._.
 
Bob
lol
 
8:34 AM
morning
 
8:45 AM
GAH!
what is the point in buzzfeed?
 
9:00 AM
There is none?
 
 
2 hours later…
11:17 AM
Does it have to have a point? other than making money
that's the point of most things
Sooooooooo didn't need root canal \o/
 
Bob
11:52 AM
!!tumbleweed
 

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