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1:15 PM

@SwiftPushkar well.. it's Objectors Argument for Vedas not being Eternal.. and it is refuted in Sutra 7...

To have more information on how Purva Mimamsa Sutra keeps objector argument first and then replies see my answer here:

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A: What is the validity of Authoritativeness of vedas?

Purva Mimamsa School in it's Purva Mimamsa Sutras gives very logical arguments to prove Eternity of Vedas. Actually these Arguments can also be used against Nastika school who hold Vedas are not eternal. Quotes from Mahabharata, Ramayana, Puranas and other scripture to support Eternity of Vedas ...

That Sutra 1 logic of Objector is countered in Sutra 7 as:

7. They by reason of one sentence with the injunction are with the object of the praise, parts of the injunction.

@SwiftPushkar Basically what the objector means is "There are several parts in Vedas which are not related to Sacrifice/Yajna like Human stories or Jnana Kandas etc.. So Vedas are not eternal as they contain these useless stories which serve no purpose for Yajna. So presence of these useless stories proves that Vedas are not eternal."

And the reply by Sutra 7 means is "Those stories which do not instruct for sacrifice on Vedas are not useless. They serve as a purpose to glorify the Yajna by such stories. So, they are just parts of Vedic injunction. So the objection that these useless stories makes Vedas uneternal are Groundless."

2 hours later…

Keshav Srinivasan

3:09 PM

@TheDestroyer @Tezz "Even proper nouns?" Concerning the use of proper nouns in the Vedas, you may be interested in my question here:

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Q: How does Purva Mimamsa explain mentions of human beings in the eternal Vedas?

As I discuss in this question, by far the most popular school of Hindu philosophy is the Vedanta school, which bases its tenets on the doctrines laid out in the Brahma Sutras, a work by the sage Vyasa that summarizes and systematizes the philosophical teachings of the Upanishads. (You can read t...

vedas philosophy vedanta brahma-sutras yajur-veda

@TheDestroyer @Tezz This is a subject where the Purva Mimamsa school and the Vedanta school disagree. The Purva Mimamsa school believed that the names of humans don't occur in the Vedas at all, whereas the Vedanta school believes that the names of humans do occur in the Vedas, because the same humans are born in different ages.

@TheDestroyer "No. But Garuda and Mani naaga, son of Adisesha, fight in vaikunta before Lord Vishnu." OK, then it's definitely a different story than the one discussed in the Parakhya Tantra.

@KeshavSrinivasan any names in Sanskrit can be broken to it's etymology... so I think there is no problem for Purva Mimamsa to account this...

Keshav Srinivasan

3:28 PM

@Tezz Well, but their reasoning is absurd. Shabara says "We do not know of any person of the name "Pravahana", hence the term pravahani cannot mean "the son of Pravahana"". But the Vedas do mention a person named Pravahana, whom I discuss here:

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Q: What kings passed on the Panchagni Vidya of the Upanishads?

As I discuss in the this answer, by far the most popular school of Hindu philosophy is the Vedanta school, which bases its tenets on the doctrines laid out in the Brahma Sutras, a work by the sage Vyasa which summarizes and systematizes the philosophical teachings of the Upanishads. You can read ...

philosophy upanishads vedanta chandogya-upanishad brihadaranyaka-upanishad

@Tezz @Mr_Green I study theoretical physics, so tell me if you guys have any questions about quantum mechanics or relativity or other subjects.

@KeshavSrinivasan but existence of that Person also doesn't make etymological reasoning by Jaimini wrong...

@KeshavSrinivasan oh.. you cleared Bachelor or Masters in Physics...?

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz I have a bachelors double majoring in physics and mathematics, and a masters in mathematics, and I'm looking to get a PhD.

@KeshavSrinivasan omg... so you are both physicist and mathematician and vedician...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz In any case I've studied physics on my own from a very early age, so by the time I was about 13 or 14 I completely mastered quantum mechanics and general relativity.

@Tezz Haha yeah

@KeshavSrinivasan what do you think about String Theory... is it right or wrong?...

Keshav Srinivasan

3:35 PM

@Tezz I basically have four intellectual interests in life: Hinduism, physics, mathematics, and philosophy.

@KeshavSrinivasan these are basically... so what are specially... 😀😀

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz I think it's very likely wrong; it has problems like the Landscape that basically make it unfalsifiable. I think loop quantum gravity is a more promising theory of quantum gravity.

@Tezz Haha, I'm also interested in history, politics, economics, and other things.

@KeshavSrinivasan I had heard String theory is mathematically proven... just experiment needed... so is it wrong??...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz It's impossible to mathematically prove a theory of physics. All modern theories of physics are written in the language of mathematics, but to find out which one is right you need experimental evidence.

@KeshavSrinivasan btw.. as you are physicist you may be interested to solve this challenge here...

Quantum Eraser Lottery Challenge | Space Time | PBS Digital Studios

Keshav Srinivasan

3:41 PM

@Tezz I haven't even watched the video, but I can already guess the solution to the challenge reading the video description:

No-communication theorem

In physics, the no-communication theorem is a no-go theorem from quantum information theory which states that, during measurement of an entangled quantum state, it is not possible for one observer, by making a measurement of a subsystem of the total state, to communicate information to another observer. The theorem is important because, in quantum mechanics, quantum entanglement is an effect by which certain widely separated events can be correlated in ways that suggest the possibility of instantaneous communication. The no-communication theorem gives conditions under which such transfer of...

@Tezz By the way, if you want to understand quantum entanglement and Bell's theorem, I highly recommend that you read this web page: quantumtantra.com/bell2.html

@KeshavSrinivasan I haven't understand clearly yet about observer/ measuring effect... people also connect it with philosophy and consciousness... do not know whether it actually has philosophical aspect in it or not...

@KeshavSrinivasan I do not know what Bells theorem is...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz That web page will tell you what Bell's theorem is. It's important to know Bell's theorem if you want to understand quantum entanglement.

@Tezz Concerning the observer effect, you may be interested in my old forum post here:

physicsforums.com/threads/…

@KeshavSrinivasan what I understand about quantum entanglement is... when two particles are entangled then distance doesn't effect it... that's only...

Keshav Srinivasan

3:56 PM

@Tezz Look at post #19 in that thread.

@KeshavSrinivasan what I think is... if we have detection system too but it erases memory... before the electron makes interference pattern... but we can see it (which path ekectron went) when we are inside room ... will the electron make Intereference patteren when I go outside the room... as there is no observer and detector device memory also gets deleted...?

Lugita 15 is written in #20...

4:15 PM

@TheDestroyer @Tezz Talk something......

@KrishnShweta something...

Hmm... Something.

@Tezz Found Samba praying to Sun in Varaha Purana.

@KrishnShweta Talk something.....

and getting rid of leprosy

4:18 PM

@TheDestroyer so he gets relieved from curse then..?

Oh ok...

@Tezz Yeah.

Do you have Varaha Purana?... @TheDestroyer

Who is Samba?

Krishnas Son...

@KrishnShweta Lord Krishna cursed him and he got leprosy...

@KrishnShweta Krishna and Jambavati son.

@KrishnShweta He was partial avatar of Shiva.

4:21 PM

Oh!!

@KrishnShweta Samba is responsible for ending Yadava clan and Krishna did it on purpose as Krishna's descendants would have strength. So, he prayed Lord of Destruction (Shiva) and Samba was born.

Why Krishna cursed him? And Why he was praying to Sun?

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A: Where is it mentioned that Krishna and Rama Worshipped Shiva Lingam?

In Verse 19 of Yuddha Kanda - Book Of War, Chapter [Sarga] 123, Valmiki Ramayana, Lord Rama himself says that he worshiped Mahadeva. एतत् कुक्षौ समुद्रस्य स्कन्धावारनिवेशनम् || ६-१२३-१९ अत्र पूर्वं महादेवः प्रसादमकरोत्प्रभुः | "See this island, located in the middle of the ocean, where m...

and

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Q: Is it true that thieves kidnapped some of Krishna's wives?

I heard that, after the Kurukshetra war, some of Krishna's wives were kidnapped by thieves. If true, what are the reasons behind this?

@KrishnShweta

@Tezz Download from here

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A: Complete English translations of Puranas

Index here shows Skanda Purana consists 23 Volumes.Of 23 Volumes,20 volumes were found from West Bengal Dspace. Skanda Purana Volume 1 Volume 2 Volume 3 Volume 4 Volume 5 Volume 6 Volume 7 Volume 8 Volume 9 Volume 10 Volume 11 Volume 12 Volume 13 Volume 14 ...

Okay.......

@KrishnShweta and one of the minor reason is... so that we may discuss this matter at this time ....😀😀

4:26 PM

@Tezz ^.^

@TheDestroyer so five parts of part 1 only...

@Tezz go to Drive section..

it is text searchable.

@TheDestroyer I dont know why Varaha purana is not avaliable in Vedicreserve site...

@Tezz It is available on Indianscriptures.com in Sanskrit and English.

@TheDestroyer Ok...

@TheDestroyer I think it describes Varaha incarnation in detail... is it?..

@KrishnShweta V.V

4:31 PM

@Tezz haha. Everyone thinks like that. But No. Lord Varaha narrates the events to Bhoo Devi. So, named as Varaha Purana like Matsya Purana.

@TheDestroyer what does he narrate...?

@Tezz for that you should read varaha Purana :P :P

@TheDestroyer everyone doesn't think like that... for eg. You didn't think... and now I also do not think... and now @KrishnShweta also do not think... 😀😀

@TheDestroyer no no ... narrate here verse by verse... haha...

Ok I'll read it...

@KeshavSrinivasan yeah I forgot we have pro here :)

@Tezz Abridged version of all major events highlighting Vishnu.

4:36 PM

@TheDestroyer ok... how much verses does Varaha Puran contain?...

@Tezz Don't know. I read some chapters in English.

@TheDestroyer ok... actually though we have 18 Puranas people rarely talk of Puranas like Varaha Puran, Narada Purana etc...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz Wikipedia says "The critical edition published has 215 chapters. The Hindu tradition and other Puranas claim that this text had 24,000 verses; however, surviving manuscripts have less than half that number." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varaha_Purana#Contents

@KeshavSrinivasan ok.. thanks for information...

I am still thinking about Quantum mechanics

Very interesting

Thanks to Tezz

4:41 PM

@Mr_Green what are you thinking about...( in particular)

How particles change if someone observes it

@Mr_Green what is your age, if you don't mind?

@Mr_Green yes.. it's interesting...

...

@KeshavSrinivasan it doesn't contain commentary... it's just translation of Sutra..

4:44 PM

Where r u guys from?

Keshav Srinivasan

@SwiftPushkar "See Pada 2 sutra 1 , What that sutra means books.google.co.in/…. Its abt purva mimansa sutras and abt vedas" This is why you shouldn't read Mohan Lal Sandal's book. Instead you should read Shabara's commentary. You can read all three volumes of Shabara's commentary here:

@Mr_Green if you know about relativity and speed of light, you understand why "Devas or humans with Subtle body activate appear as ball of light"?

Keshav Srinivasan

Sep 24 at 15:59, by Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz @TheDestroyer I just uploaded all three volumes of Shabara's commentary on the Purva Mimamsa Sutras to Google Drive. Here's volume 1: http://gdurl.com/PG8Z/download Here's volume 2: http://gdurl.com/Wt0M/download And here's volume 3: http://gdurl.com/NTJQ/download The file sizes are all relatively small.

@Mr_Green I'm from that country whose area is 147181... 😀😀

@Mr_Green where are you from?..

I have not much idea about Hindu scripturrs

4:46 PM

@TheDestroyer due to length contraction..?

4th wealthiest city in the world :D

@TheDestroyer OMG!!.......... I'm in that chat room (krishna and Destroyer war)

@Tezz That's very difficult hint. You should have said "once a Hindu nation which turned into Secular state".

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz I don't think subtle body appearing as a ball of light has any connection to relativity.

Haha yeah

Delete it.. pls

4:48 PM

@KeshavSrinivasan yes I also think so... subtle body isn't physical... but I'm asking that to Destroyer...

Tezz I didn't get ur location

Destroyer u from?

Krish hi

@TheDestroyer no it's easy... just search in Google typing that area... with country area behind it...

@Mr_Green I'm from Nepal...

@KeshavSrinivasan They have mass infinity and substitute in m=m0/sqrt(1-(v/c)^2)

@KeshavSrinivasan Or you can consider them as massless like photons. All partciles which move at speed of light are massless.

rest mass =0

@TheDestroyer but this works only on physical body... ie. May work on case of Deva coming...

@Tezz Yeah. They are above Physical mass or regimes.

So, you can think all Physical Universe in them.

Keshav Srinivasan

4:51 PM

@TheDestroyer It's definitely true that all objects that move at the speed of light are massless. Buts what does that have to do with subtle bodies?

Great..

@KeshavSrinivasan Devas don't have Physical mass (massless). So, they appear as balls of light unless they materialize physical body at their will.

Maybe near to massless but not literally

@KeshavSrinivasan I sent you video of Venkateswara where light appeared during Brahmotsvam. That light could be Devas or Brahma.

I think every entity needs body

I discussed this with Tezz early this day

4:54 PM

@KeshavSrinivasan In Swarga loka does anyone have to eat food like we have to eat...?

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz By the way, length contraction can never make any object appear as a point. Length contraction applies only to the direction of motion. The other two dimensions of the object remain unaffected. So for instance if x denotes length, y denotes width, and z denotes height, and an object is moving along the x-axis, then its length will be contracted but its width and height will be unaffected.

@Tezz I think the Brahamanda Purana says the gods have upward digestive systems.

@KeshavSrinivasan if a object is moving in circular path near speed of light... then ..?

@KeshavSrinivasan what is meant by upward digestive system...?

@KrishnShweta Ohh.. what chat is that?

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz Meaning food enters from the bottom and goes upward rather than the other way around.

What the?

4:56 PM

@Mr_Green when?.. early day I just talked about meta post to you...

@KeshavSrinivasan haha... where is it in Brahmanda Purana..?

Larger bodies... Brahma

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz I don't know, I think a question was posted on it.

@KeshavSrinivasan In various autobiographies of sages, Divine beings appeared as light balls. Also, many people see Siddhas as lights in Himalayas especially near Kalilasa mountain.

@KrishnShweta ok.

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz If an object is moving in a circle, then it will be contracted in the direction tangent to the circle, but it will not be contracted in the radial direction.

@KeshavSrinivasan does rotation in high speed contracts the body...?

Keshav Srinivasan

4:59 PM

@TheDestroyer I don't think this has any connection to relativity. I think it just has to do with magic.

If Earth stops rotating it will look like a disfigured object unlike sphere

@KeshavSrinivasan Big bang occurred 13 billion years ago... then how the diameter of universe became 93 billion light year..?

@KeshavSrinivasan this is very clear. I don't know why you are not believing? Magic is for westerners. Everything is Science for vedantists.

@Mr_Green I don't think rotation of earth has any significant to do with shape... if it stops... we will fly in sky... that's it...

Keshav Srinivasan

@TheDestroyer It is not at all true everything is science in Vedanta. I suggest you read the discussion of Apurva in the Purva Mimamsa Sutras. There is such a thing as magic.

5:02 PM

@KeshavSrinivasan where is Apurva section in Purva mimamsa sutra..

@KeshavSrinivasan Science of all Regimes not just Physical laws.

I agree we will fly but the current shape look of Earth is bcos of fast rotation. If Earth stops rotating, we can see the exact shape

@KeshavSrinivasan law of Karma is also science... and at least we can also explain magical act from this...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz Rotation of an object does not make it contract, because the expansion of the object due to the centrifugal force exactly compensates for the relativistic contraction.

@Tezz Law of Karma is not science. It is supernatural.

@KeshavSrinivasan Science means Vijnana... and Vijnana is which can be verified... law of Karma can be verified... so it is science...

5:05 PM

@KeshavSrinivasan It is Vijanana may not be Science.

For eg.. I'm typing letters and it is being typed... Law of Karma 😀😀

Thus Verified... haha

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz It is a fundamental tenet of the Purva Mimamsa school and the Vedanta school that the law of Karma can never be confirmed with Pratyaksha Pramana.

@KeshavSrinivasan people can see past life and can verify to some level... Dhritarastra saw killing birds by poking eyes in past life... Thus he got Pratakshya pramana of Law of Karma...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz Typing letters and seeing them typed is ordinary cause and effect, not the law of karma.

@KeshavSrinivasan Every action done is Karma... Dhatu Kri... which means to do...

@TheDestroyer what is the story of Surgical strike on Pakistan... Is it true?...

Keshav Srinivasan

5:11 PM

@Tezz Yes, all actions are karma, but the phala or fruit of a karma does not refer to the event that naturally comes immediately after the action, it refers to the consequenceswhich ultimately rewards or punishes that action.

@Tezz The problem is, even if you know you did a certain action, like a Yagna to get wealth, and subsequently you get wealthy, it is impossible to prove empirically that the Yagna was the cause of your getting wealthy. Even if you had complete knowledge of all your past births, you would not have enough information to figure out which action led to which later events.

@Tezz true.

We killed 38 Pak terrorists.

@Tezz Modi is also planning to abrogate Indus treaty, which may make Pakistan a dried state,

35 terrorists and 9 Pak soldiers.. could be more

Yeah.

@TheDestroyer oh... but I think Pakistan is denying....

@Tezz Obviously, they would.

5:15 PM

@KeshavSrinivasan we wouldn't have enough information.. but at least we can have general information...

@TheDestroyer how can water be stopped?...

@TheDestroyer when did it happened?.. I just saw one short YouTube clip today...

@Tezz Yesterday night 12 - 4 i think.

I think today it was publicized...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz But the point is, no matter how much information you have about your past actions, it will never be enough to prove or disprove the law of karma. So because it is beyond the realm of what can be proven through Pratyaksha Pramana, it is a subject that can be known through Sabda Pramana.

Yeah. Today .

@TheDestroyer oh ok...

Keshav Srinivasan

5:18 PM

@Tezz There is a hierarchy of Pramanas. Anumana Pramana is only applicable to things which cannot be known through Pratyaksha Pramana. Sabda Pramana is only applicable to things which cannot be known through either Pratyaksha Pramana or Anumana Pramana.

@TheDestroyer @Mr_Green what would happen if war started...?

Can't say

@Tezz I think war won't happen. India is planning to take war on economy of Pakistan. It has eight options and planning to implement them. Astha Digbandhana

Pak is trying to scare a lion with nuclear attack

@KeshavSrinivasan ok I understand your point;
"it will never be enough to prove or disprove the law of karma. So because it is beyond the..." means... we will always find some cases which we can't justify with logic of Law of Karma...

5:20 PM

@KeshavSrinivasan which being has upright digestion?

Indra

@TheDestroyer but Pakistan may start by attacking first...

How powerful are Nuclear weapon of Pakistan?...

Does India has Anti Missile Defense system?...

@Tezz If pakistan attacks first with N weapns, even china will not help them. Pakistan will be wiped out from map.

Third in world

@Tezz Yes. India has advanced System than pakis.

@TheDestroyer Ok...

@TheDestroyer Is Pakistan media showing it...?

5:27 PM

@Tezz No. They are saying LOC firing.

@Tezz See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Waters_Treaty

@TheDestroyer at least some might have collected photographs/videos from attacked areas... hasn't someone from there shown/leaked it yet...?

@Tezz I think Army said it will release them at proper time.

@TheDestroyer Ok....

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz ""it will never be enough to prove or disprove the law of karma. So because it is beyond the..." means... we will always find some cases which we can't justify with logic of Law of Karma..." No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying every event is explainable using the law of Karma, but it's impossible to prove that the law of Karma explanation of an event is correct using Pratyaksha Pramana.

@Tezz And so because Pratyaksha Pramana is not enough to prove or disprove the law of Karma, you need to use Sabda Pramana.

@KeshavSrinivasan ok ... I tried to tell the same... but wrote differently... I wanted to say "we can't justify it through logic of law of karma from the information we have."

Keshav Srinivasan

5:40 PM

@Tezz Yeah, that's right.

@Tezz @Mr_Green Here's the upward digestive system question:

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Q: Devas(Gods) and their digestive system

According to Brahmanda purana, brahma commensed creation in this following chronological order [Bh Purana - Quote 25 - 50]. Prākrta Creations (pertaining to Prakruti) Mahat -- Great Principle Tanmatras -- Subtle Elements Vaikārika -- Creation pertaining to Sense organs Vaikrta -Mediated crea...

mythology vedas puranas brahma devas

@KeshavSrinivasan although in hiercarchy Sabda Pramana is in top... I think Pratakshya Pramana is the best...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz Haha, best is subjective. You can call Pratyaksha the best in the sense that it's always used first. Or you can call Sabda the best because it can reveal things that none of the other Pramanas can ever reveal.

@KeshavSrinivasan all scriptures are Sabda Pramana..?

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz Yeah, all Shrutis and Smritis qualify as Sabda Pramana. The only things that don't qualify as Sabda Pramana according to the Purva Mimamsa Sutras are Kalpa Sutras and grammatical texts.

@KeshavSrinivasan so Panini Ashtadhyai, Yaksha Nirukta aren't Sabda Pramana...?..

Keshav Srinivasan

5:49 PM

@Tezz Yeah, that's what the Purva Mimamsa Sutras say.

What about Yoga Sutras, Vaishesika Sutra, Nyaya Sutras etc...?

Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz Darshana Sutras are Smritis, so they're Sabda Pramana. But anything in them that contradicts the Vedas or other Pramanas have to be rejected.

@KeshavSrinivasan Ok...

6:03 PM

@KrishnShweta 9 minus 1

@Tezz ??

@KrishnShweta It actually became 9 minus 2

@Tezz I got you.

@KrishnShweta Ok.. great...

@Tezz Soon 9-4.

6:08 PM

@KrishnShweta can it be 9-10

@Tezz BTW, the name "TEZZ" really suits you.

@KrishnShweta who told you...?

@Tezz Frozen?

@KrishnShweta how can frozen be that.....

@KrishnShweta 9-10 can be possible when ghost uses it...

@Tezz your posts, comments, messages are enough to describe you as TEZZ

6:12 PM

Or a Nurse who can't pronounce r in Nurse uses it...

@KrishnShweta haha...BTW, the name "Shweta" really suits you.

@Tezz Ghost....... naa.... Please Don't talk about them.

So... Nurse who can't pronounce r in nurse...

@Tezz Yeah "Shweta"

@Tezz And what is that?

@KrishnShweta My Nurse 1 ... haha ( puzzle solve it)...

@Tezz what is "9-2"?

6:17 PM

@Tezz I know you just kidding me.

@TheDestroyer lol... it's puzzle... solve it ..

@TheDestroyer Shall I?

Yeah.

@KrishnShweta No... it's actually puzzle... solve it by using that statement (who can't pronounce) and connect it with 9-10...

@TheDestroyer 2 days ago I said: 9 users are online. that's awesome.

6:20 PM

ohh.. ok.

@TheDestroyer Chat room link please.

@KrishnShweta i don't know where it is. It was long ago.

@TheDestroyer I think he has deleted his account. right?

@KrishnShweta Yeah.

@Tezz Don't laugh if it is wrong. "Nurse who can't pronounce r ghost"

6:24 PM

@KrishnShweta haha...

Pronounce this statement:

My Nurse 1

Which is equal to 9-10

@TheDestroyer OK..... But You were awesome there. How could he say that... OMG!!

@Tezz That's minus 1. How it is 9-10

@KrishnShweta What did he say?

@KrishnShweta he was actually thinking... It was I...

@KrishnShweta 9-10 is also minus 1...

@Tezz What is the Puzzle?

@Tezz 9-10 is -1

6:29 PM

@TheDestroyer My Nurse 1 : Do not pronounce 'r' in nurse here.. it becomes Minus 1: which is equal to 9-10... lol...

@TheDestroyer Rama didn't worshiped Shiva but that was ocean.

@KrishnShweta so don't you call -1 as minus 1..

@Tezz Oh!!! true. ^.^

@KrishnShweta Yeah. He doesn't agree if someone says good or great about Shiva.

@KrishnShweta V.V

6:33 PM

@TheDestroyer hmm....

@KrishnShweta it's real magnified image of ^.^ using convex Lens...

So it got inverted...

@Tezz You are studying too much these days. Go and roam in Himalayas. :P

@TheDestroyer with my mind made body?...

@Tezz I understand that. I mean, ^.^ is shying face so what could be v.v?

@Tezz To remove that mind made body.

6:36 PM

@KrishnShweta so it could mean inverted shying face... 😁😁

hello

@Jase Hello!!

@TheDestroyer well I shall go to Himalaya through mind made body by lucid dreaming...

@Jase hello!....

@Tezz I thought you meant Physical body as your (Nirguna Brahman in reality) mind made body.

@Jase Hello

@TheDestroyer oh... do you know Lucid Dreaming...?

6:39 PM

@Tezz I sometimes have lucid dreams. haha.. i control characters in those dreams.

@TheDestroyer oh... I too have sometimes... It's great...

Having Lucid dreams means becoming Ishwara in dream world...

@Tezz Yeah. Most of the time i destroy the dream by waking up if something bad is happening to me.

@TheDestroyer Ok...

@TheDestroyer @Tezz I shout louder during sleep.

@KrishnShweta how do you know you shout... do you keep a recorder on...

6:45 PM

@Tezz Lol.. others could have told her.

@Tezz I sleep with my sisters. So...

@KrishnShweta oh... or your neighbours tell you ?

@Tezz did you get Gods in dreams?

@Tezz Not yet.

@TheDestroyer yes sometimes ... what about you?...

@KrishnShweta be careful they might complain to police...

6:49 PM

@Tezz What's the proof that I was shouting?

@Tezz No. When i read Shiva Purana by Ramesh menon for the first time for the whole day, i saw Brahma creating in dreams. But that was only because i was reading the whole day.

@KrishnShweta neighbours may have turned on recorders...

@TheDestroyer but still you saw... it isnt necessary that who reads for whole day necessarily saws dream about it...

@Tezz yeah not genuine dreams.

@Tezz Is my voice that sweet? People will be awake to here and record my voice.

@KrishnShweta @Tezz Bye! GN.

6:52 PM

@TheDestroyer Wait.

@TheDestroyer I have seen Mahadeva, Ganesh and Parvati in one single dream... Rama in one dream... and another incarnation of Vishnu in another dream...

@TheDestroyer Ok... Good Night...

@TheDestroyer Do you have holidays?

@KrishnShweta who knows... maybe...

@KrishnShweta No.

@Tezz Wow. great

@TheDestroyer Okay..... Good night.

@Tezz Hmm....

6:55 PM

@KrishnShweta or maybe police themselves get disturbed by your shoutings...

@Tezz Take it easy.

@KrishnShweta how can I take it...

@Tezz Why can't you?

@KrishnShweta because I don't know how to take it...

@KrishnShweta your soon came...

Soon?

7:02 PM

@KrishnShweta find it yourself... you just told about.. 58 minutes ago....

Haan.... OK

@KrishnShweta Ok .. Good Night...

@Tezz good night..

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