English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

RegDwigнt

15:00

Enough with your pathetic wordplays, for God's cake.

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch I've never seen a cake kill kenny

Mitch

@JasperLoy I don't think I've ever smelled ripe durian, so I've never experienced what people say is the bad part. the fruit products are good though.

RegDwigнt

@MattE.Эллен so you're more into Family Guy, eh?

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен throat locks up

user227867

@Mitch Honestly I don't know what is bad about the smell either. I think people are just not used to this kind of smell from something called a fruit. But maybe if they stop thinking of it as a fruit they will like it.

Mitch

15:01

@JasperLoy but when you eat it, it's fruity.

RegDwigнt

Now humans however are underrated. Really the smell may be weird, but the filling is really nice.
Once you actually eat human flesh, you will enjoy the taste and the smell.

user227867

@Mitch Actually, it does not taste like fruit to me. It tastes more like cake.

Mitch

whereas with moon cake or bean curd cake it's as much like cake as urinal cake.

user227867

@RegDwigнt A cannibal here! Whee!

Matt E. Эллен

urinal cake... blue moon cake?

user227867

15:03

This reminds me that I should watch some more cannibal movies, lol.

Mitch

puts on calendar

RegDwigнt

I will never eat anything that bears any semblance to "bean turd".

Mitch

@RegDwigнt You should try it. Your suspicions will be confirmed

@MattE.Эллен mmm.. I love the smell of naphtha in the morning

Matt E. Эллен

@RegDwigнt Lucky is the family guy

Tonepoet

@RegDwigнt Hmm, were you just as disappointed as I was at the color quality of L.C.Ds. compared to C.R.Ts?

RegDwigнt

15:04

@JasperLoy no snuff in this chat. Not even Nicolas Cage snuff documentaries. Please delete your account first before watching. Kthxbai.

user227867

@Tonepoet If I ask 'What is long in shape and short in duration?' how many people will know the answer?

RegDwigнt

@Tonepoet well of course. The first ones were rubbish. As is the case with any technology.

Mitch

@Tonepoet I was disappointed at not having an electron beam pointed at my face any more.

RegDwigнt

I still had a CRT on this very desk like ten years ago.

I was probably the last person in the entire building.

user227867

@RegDwigнt You must have eaten the other people.

Tonepoet

15:06

@Mitch The glass was leaded to protect you from that. That's part of why they're so heavy.

RegDwigнt

I must nothing. I can lots.

Family Guy - Down Syndrome Girl song + video

►

All hail Walter Murphy.

user227867

I think I should continue to buy lottery. It is only 3 dollars a month and I can win a million dollars if I win.

RegDwigнt

Like srsly. Dude's got more skill than all of us combined.

user227867

I look like the octopus there.

RegDwigнt

I look like the satin green shutters.

Chris De Burgh Satin Green Shutters HD

►

user227867

15:12

For those who like the colour of my square and want to use it, it is called 'dodgerblue'. Thank you.

Mitch

I think I'm gonna deburgh

RegDwigнt

I know, dwight.

user227867

I think that Clinton will win and not Trump in November.

RegDwigнt

I think you're the last person in the universe who gives a flying anything about it.

user227867

I think we need to beware of N Korea. They might just nuclear the world.

RegDwigнt

15:16

They'll nuke themselves in the foot first.

Almost happened already.

user227867

Well, well, the danger is in underestimating your opponents.

RegDwigнt

Let them nuke some more, China needs a parking lot.

@JasperLoy well, well, the fearmongering is in imagining opponents where there are none.

user227867

Saturana has also been suspended. I wonder if Saturana = Mari = Josh, hmm...

RegDwigнt

Satur ventur non studit libentur.

user227867

I really miss Mr Thursagen and Mr Thursagan. They need to return to ELU and post again.

user227867

15:19

I also miss vgv8.

RegDwigнt

Jasper, are you off your pills again?

Take some. Take some now.

user227867

Still on them, lol.

RegDwigнt

Well takes some more, then.

More is better.

user227867

By the way, I saw a huge bottle with the label Baccardi. I think it stands for Russian liquor, lol.

RegDwigнt

Yes I know. And you will always think that.

user227867

15:21

The bottle might be larger than me.

RegDwigнt

English doesn't even have a word for bottle.

user227867

There is a restaurant here now with Gordon Ramsay's picture. I have not entered it to see the menu.

user227867

I have watched some of Ramsay's youtube videos.

RegDwigнt

Any decent restaurant will have the menu on display outside.

user227867

Yes, in case we pay for a thousand dollar fish.

user227867

15:24

Any decent menu will have the price listed beside the item.

user227867

Remember not to drink the water or eat the bread in a restaurant until you make sure it is free.

RegDwigнt

And any decent menu outside the US will have that price actually correspond to the one you have to pay.

user227867

In some restaurants here you need to pay for the hand towel and the peanuts.

RegDwigнt

@JasperLoy only fascist countries like Spain and Luxembourg do that.

user227867

So bring your own tissue and peanuts in your pocket.

RegDwigнt

15:26

Yeah, better still bring your own brick and mortar and build your own restaurant.

user227867

"Outside food is not allowed in this restaurant"

user227867

"Once broken considered sold"

RegDwigнt

I wonder from where they get the food they serve you, then.

user227867

"No refund or exchange allowed"

RegDwigнt

They grow the cows inside?

user227867

15:27

These signs are common here.

RegDwigнt

Just wear a sign, "once I walk away I consider you paid".

user227867

LOL.

user227867

I still prefer a British accent to an American one.

RegDwigнt

A British accent. Could you please be any less specific?

News flash: all American accents are British accents.

Mitch

I prefer spice to an accent

RegDwigнt

15:30

I prefer baby to sporty.

Mitch

why choose?

RegDwigнt

Because ugh.

Because eww.

Because blargh.

user227867

These days they can have children at 10 years old. I read some such stories.

user227867

Quite a lot of such young parents in the world actually. It is so sweet.

RegDwigнt

Jasper clearly still hasn't bought a single dictionary. And is thus oblivious to the meaning of the word "sweet".

user227867

15:32

And also the meaning of font and typeface.

RegDwigнt

Yes. You also still don't own a Quran, and are thus oblivious to the fact that marriages between four-year olds are not a new thing.

Mitch

?? font and typeface aren't just as sweet?

user227867

I remember I fell in love with a girl when I was 5 years old.

RegDwigнt

Plot twist: Jasper is prophet Mohammed.

user227867

LOL.

Mitch

15:34

when he was 5 not the girl

user227867

Anyway, the girl was also 5. We were in the same class.

Mitch

Oh. I stand corrected

RegDwigнt

@Mitch who reads the Quran that closely?

Mitch

sits down

@RegDwigнt like everybody. you need glasses

RegDwigнt

I will never like everybody. Especially not if I require an apparatus for that.

user227867

15:36

I think in the future humans will live till 1000 years old and people may get married at 10 years old.

Mitch

I see advertisements that there are people being born today who will live to be 150.

What are they selling?

user227867

Maybe I should go on a cruise. My aunt has offered to pay for it.

Mitch

diapers?

RegDwigнt

Hearing loss.

Mitch

What?

RegDwigнt

15:38

Hurry up, these prices will last but for two decades.

Mitch

@JasperLoy Nice, where would it go? Australia?

RegDwigнt

Your aunt is hard of hearing. She thought she'd be paying for Tom Cruise.

Mitch

Philipines?

user227867

@Mitch I don't know, just sailing round and round somewhere.

RegDwigнt

Yeah no that's not how surviving at sea works.

user227867

15:39

Anyway, for me there is no need to travel to see places and people. I have already seen the world on the internet.

Mitch

@JasperLoy well, they sty on the ocean a lot, but then every day or so they go into a port somewhere, where you can eat local food, and sell local products and see local sights

user227867

And in my mind, I have even seen beyond this world.

Mitch

Which reminds me, I owe TripAdvisor a review of that place.

The corner of state and main. worse traffic ever

user227867

There are people who travel around the world, and then come back and still know nothing.

user227867

Money gets them nowhere.

Mitch

15:41

go far without traveling

RegDwigнt

@Mitch wait what? That means "gonorrhoe advisor" in German.

Mitch

@JasperLoy leave stupid, come back moreso.

visiting other cultures, learning more about them, getting a perspective on the world..

...just confirms your prejudices.

@RegDwigнt No using googletranslate in chat.

RegDwigнt

Other cultures are too damn stupid. Just look at America. No thanks, I'm staying.

user227867

I read that some research has been done on people's previous lives.

Mitch

@JasperLoy I think that's called 'history'

user227867

15:43

@Mitch I mean 'rebirth'.

Mitch

study on the rebirth itself or on the sequence of people you were?

user227867

Just case studies to confirm that rebirth is real.

Mitch

Most people are reincarnated from boring people

user227867

Like how some children can speak foreign languages miraculously.

user227867

Or how some people who died with a wound shot has a birth mark in that spot now.

Mitch

15:44

Have you ever noticed how there are more miracles the further in the past you go?

Me neither

user227867

The concept of rebirth, as you know, is a real possibility to me.

Mitch

@JasperLoy how do you know its the same person?

user227867

@Mitch Like they have dreams about some aspects of their previous life, and the details match.

RegDwigнt

I went very far in the past, but never noticed any miracles, just some heracles and some aristocles.

Mitch

@JasperLoy I think it's cool how a characteristic function is the Fourier transform of its own generating function, a complex function that converts to one with purely non-negative natural coefficients.

user227867

15:47

I know about Socrates and Democrates.

Mitch

@JasperLoy Anybody can make up a dream. Just get real drucnk and repeat three stories at the same time.

user227867

They should be read as So Crates and Demo Crates.

Mitch

Play Toe

user227867

I prefer Play Doh.

Mitch

Witt Gen Steen.

RegDwigнt

15:49

Pray, duh.

user227867

I love the sound of 'Ich liebe Dich' in German. It sounds so cool.

user227867

For those who missed the pics of the AHD, it is here: work.laurenvajda.com/american-heritage-dictionary

user227867

Get your beautiful copy today, bye!

Cerberus

16:21

@RegDwigнt Good answer.

I did not know them.

It looks nice and ironic.

And Russian.

I like the girl.

Faheem Mitha

17:46

Does the phrase "the following evening" clearly indicate tomorrow? Just checking.

Matt E. Эллен

it indicates the next evening, but could be talking about a past. more context is needed to be sure that it's tomorrow

Færd

> Have we met before?

> Have we met earlier?

Is the latter a natural equivalent of the former?

Matt E. Эллен

I would phrase it "Did we meet earlier?" and no. earlier would imply within a timeframe of at most a day. before could be any time before that point

Færd

Thanks.

Why do you prefer the past tense?

Matt E. Эллен

I don't know. "have we met earlier" sounds wrong

Johan Larsson

17:59

@Færd relaxation is so sweet

sry

Mitch

@Færd 'have we met before?' Is a common question when you go to a party or a meeting where you

might know some people, by just can't place the face.

'Did we meet earlier?' Usually occurs after you've had a stroke and are unsure what exactly happened that morning, including who you met.

Færd

@JohanLarsson So you think both past and perfect tenses are okay?

Johan Larsson

I have no idea, was trying to make a lame pun

Færd

@Mitch Thanks, but I still don't know why Have we met earlier doesn't work.

@JohanLarsson That's okay then. :)

Mitch

@Færd good question. I don't know. I'm mulling it over in my head. But you use did/earlier have/before, and not the other way.

It could be aspect. But the labels for each aren't giving me an obvious rule as I generalize

Færd

18:09

Well, that's good to know.

@JohanLarsson I thought you meant the relaxation of grammar rules and speaking liberally, and basically cutting out all these questions.

But you simply meant relax!, which is almost the same thing.

@MattE.Эллен So, in your opinion, "Did we met earlier today" and "Have we met earlier today" mean the same thing, but still can't have the same verb tense, right?

Matt E. Эллен

@Færd yeah. the latter doesn't work for me

Færd

@MattE.Эллен Oops. Typo. I meant "Did we met earlier today" and "Have we met before today".

Matt E. Эллен

those mean different things

Færd

How so?

Matt E. Эллен

the former is constrained to "today", the latter means any other day than "today"

Mitch

18:23

@Færd It's 'Did we meet earlier today? (I am so inattentive that I can't remember your face from a couple hours ago)'

Færd

@MattE.Эллен Can't it be "before, today?" with a pause between the two words?

Matt E. Эллен

@Færd yeah, but that would require the comma.

Færd

@Mitch Another Typo. Thanks.

So, now, is there any difference in meaning between "Did we meet earlier today?" and "Have we met before, today?"?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Apple, on diversity at its recent presentation: "We had a Canadian"

woo! represent!

Matt E. Эллен

@Færd those would mean the same thing

Mitch

18:26

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That's funny. You don't look Canadian

Færd

@MattE.Эллен Thanks.

Matt E. Эллен

no probs :)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch Didn't you hear? You can't tell a Canadian by their looks. We're diverse

Mitch

Divergent: dumbest HP fan-fic ever.

wait... all that vampire crap.

wait...

nope, thought I had another one.

Matt E. Эллен

vampire crap is the worst

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

18:29

twilight

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that's vampire crap.

"Look! In the sky! It's a bird! it's a plane! It's...

Matt E. Эллен

it's mostly congealed blood

Mitch

...ewww. It's Edward"

@MattE.Эллен blleurgh

That's the sound nausea makes

Vomiting makes the sound rolph

Matt E. Эллен

sailing the one sea of nau

Mitch

Oh. I though it was how Canadians answer another sick Canadian

Asia? Nawsia.

Matt E. Эллен

18:32

Thesia

Mitch

Think it through

Matt E. Эллен

I'm not good at thinking through

Somesia

allsia

Mitch

That's some esia you got there

THe Romans defeated the Gauls at Allsia

OMG, I forgot I had a donut hiding in the fridge. See you suckers later!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch Better than vampire carp.

Cerberus

19:26

A-mne-sia = not-know-ness.

Mne- is related to mem-ory, I believe.

Ana-mne-sis = re-know-ness

Ana = "up"/"again".

Matt E. Эллен

20:33

amynesia — when you'd be an adventurer if you hadn't taken an arrow to the knee

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

21:00

amymnesia is when you can't remember Amy

Matt E. Эллен

can't remember who?

Tonepoet

@MattE.Эллен Army.

Matt E. Эллен

I'd remember someone with a name like that. must be someone else

Tonepoet

Maybe it's Annie, Allie or Abby then? I feel like I have it on the tip of my tongue but I just can't remember!

Matt E. Эллен

Aunty? Did we forget the BBC?

Tonepoet

21:13

@MattE.Эллен Who could forget a big brown cake? I mean really, doesn't this just look like it's to die for?

Matt E. Эллен

It looks too good to be true

Kit Z. Fox

21:32

It's a lie.

LIES!

Today, I'm doubting the painfulness of experiences that have been described to me as "incredibly painful" all my life.

Matt E. Эллен

oh? that doesn't sound good

Kit Z. Fox

Well, first, childbirth. I didn't find it particularly painful.

Then body piercing. I barely felt it.

Then tattooing. Really? It's not remotely painful.

Matt E. Эллен

depends what you got pierced

@KitZ.Fox well. good

Kit Z. Fox

Just my ears.

But seriously, this was the thing that was shockingly painful to my teenage friends?

Matt E. Эллен

maybe you're just really good at handling pain

Kit Z. Fox

21:36

Maybe.

Maybe I'm just some kind of freak.

Matt E. Эллен

or unique!

Kit Z. Fox

Maybe I have a defective anterolateral system.

Matt E. Эллен

maybe, but you do feel pain, so maybe you have a highly effective endocrine system?

Kit Z. Fox

Actually, maybe I don't detect pain normally and that explains all the depression and crap all my life, as my body reacts but my brain doesn't.

Except I was in all those pain studies. You think someone would have said something by now.

Matt E. Эллен

maybe...

yeah, I think that would work the other way around, wouldn't it?

or maybe that's anxiety

Kit Z. Fox

21:41

Well, I do have anxiety.

Depression was first. I didn't start with anxiety until several years after I think the depression began.

Now I'm back to anxiety, but not the depression so much.

Well, whaeves.

Matt E. Эллен

so are you excited about the tattoo?

Kit Z. Fox

I am.

It looks really good.

Matt E. Эллен

:D

Kit Z. Fox

My MiL is a little freaked out.

But not a lot.

Matt E. Эллен

hahaha good

Kit Z. Fox

21:49

I wasn't going to tell her yet, but the littlest whispered "Do you want to show Gramma your tattoo?" I was surprised he remembered for more than five minutes.

He wanted her to see his initial.

Matt E. Эллен

22:09

awww cute

(sorry, had a call)

Tonepoet

@tchrist I found a directory of English Language resources and was thinking about adding some to our reference thread on meta. Is this Middle English Dictionary any good? You seem to be the chat's resident expert on the subject.

user227867

23:50

@Tonepoet Round in shape, short in duration.

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