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Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 They ought to be called that universally.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus easy there, cheese boy.

Kitḫ

@MrShinyandNew安宇 lol

Cerberus

9:03 PM

@MattЭллен I don't know many people who are into sports. Certainly not my father, my brother, or any of my uncles.

But I'll shut up.

user19161

Vanilla coke = virgin coke != coke with vanilla = vanilla coke. QED.

Kitḫ

Look, Cerb, it's a longtime rivalry, and my home team.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Apr 1 '11 at 0:45, by Robusto

Kitḫ

It's gonna be great! Especially when we wipe the floor with that fracker.

Robusto

@RegDwightѬſ道 My favorite picture of @Cerberus!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:04 PM

^ Cerberus cheering for Old Amsterdam Blergs.

Cerberus

All I know is that the second-most-popular sports team here calls the other one the Jews.

Kitḫ

Hahaha

Robusto

Jinx!

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Wow, never seen that one before! And it's not even Dutch!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus this is surprising. I'm not into sports, but all my male (off line)friends are, and my Dad and my brother and the rest of my male family and some of the females too

Robusto

9:05 PM

@Cerberus I hesitate to ask what the most popular sports team is called. The ... er ... Nazis?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus you are not even Dutch. You ananas.

Matt Эллен

I'm considering getting into Rugby, just because I want to have conversations with people

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Well...I don't know what to say. It is like religion to me: boring and stupid (sorry).

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Apr 1 '11 at 12:29, by RegDwight

user19161

@MattЭллен Soccer would be more popular.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:06 PM

^ Cerberus cheering for Puttydoll Cats.

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 That is one third of Cerberus.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus I understand, but to hear that a whole family of men don't like sports is surprising :)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен do you actually find it surprising that the kind of people who hang out in an EL&U chat room might have the "not into sports" thing going on? I'm not into sports either.

Robusto

@RegDwightѬſ道 Hello Cheezy!

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting yeah but I'm only going to stoop so low

Robusto

9:07 PM

@MattЭллен The term is not meant to be taken literally.

aedia λ

@MattЭллен My husband's family is into baseball and that's it; my own family doesn't have a single sports enthusiast I can think of

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Ima resume watchin HIMUM if you don't mind. Also, if you do.

Matt Эллен

@MrShinyandNew安宇 sure. sports are universal. Geeks like sports

Cerberus

@Robusto No, the most popular one (Ajax) are the Jews. The other one, from Rotterdam, has these exquisite yells referring to the war. You can guess what they yell at the "Jews".

Robusto

@Cerberus That sounds really creepy.

Cerberus

9:07 PM

@MattЭллен It's just not alive in my circles, thankfully (sorry again).

user19161

@MattЭллен I only like to watch tennis and table tennis.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен "liking sports" is not a stereotypical attribute of geeks IMO

Cerberus

@Robusto I can't even repeat it here. But they're not serious, of course, so it is mainly a joke.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

or, more accurately, "not liking sports" IS a stereotypical characteristic

Robusto

@Cerberus Why are Ajax called "the Jews"?

Kitḫ

9:08 PM

@Cerberus Pretty sick joke.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Haha I looked dashing in April.

@Robusto Because they are from Amsterdam, where we used to have a lot of Jews.

Robusto

We need to move the topic back to something sunny and bright:

9 mins ago, by Robusto

user19161

@Cerberus You look dashing in the white T-shirt, remember?

Kitḫ

GO PATS!!!!!

Matt Эллен

@MrShinyandNew安宇 sure, not automatically included, but I don't automatically exclude it either. supporting is mostly about statistics anyway - Geeks love keeping track of pointless crap. look at bug tracking ;)

Cerberus

9:09 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I'm not a geek, and neither are the men in my family!

@Kitḫ Yeah, well, I don't know. It's rough boys talk.

Robusto

@Cerberus That sounds like you're excluding yourself from the latter group.

user19161

@Cerberus Geek is not well-defined.

Kitḫ

@MattЭллен Most sports-liking geeks like baseball. It's a numbers thing.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus no need to be sorry! I'm not into sports either :)

Robusto

@WillHunting Geeks are seldom "cut" or "ripped" if that's what you mean by well-defined ...

Cerberus

9:10 PM

@Robusto Dog is man's best friend, but dog ≠ man.

@MattЭллен Yay!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus You're a geek. Face it. You study ancient languages. You automate your computer using a programming language. You spend time in internet chat rooms arguing with geeks. You're a geek.

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user19161

@Cerberus Woman is man's best friend, not dog.

Matt Эллен

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I am with you on this :D

aedia λ

@MattЭллен that's why baseball is a good one from what I understand. I don't ever remember much of the parents-in-law teach me after we go to a game, but my MIL is great at all the numbery things and knows all sorts of stats

Robusto

If it walks like a geek, talks like a geek, and quacks like a geek ... it's a geek.

Kitḫ

9:11 PM

aflac

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 You have a huge number of starred messages lately.

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Heh, well, classics is not geeky. And I can't program, you said so yourself. And I don't wear geeky clothes or do any of the things associated with people who work in IT.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@WillHunting I'm on a roll.

Robusto

@WillHunting Women aren't your friend. They may be more than that or less than that, but they're never exactly that. If you're a man, that is.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus geek != IT.

Cerberus

9:12 PM

@WillHunting Woman without man is like fish without bicycle.

Kitḫ

Classics is superlatively geeky.

@Robusto Same if you're a woman.

Robusto

@Cerberus Woman without man is like Wo—

Cerberus

@Kitḫ Not in Europe it isn't.

user19161

@Cerberus I am lost.

Kitḫ

Well, European = geek.

Cerberus

9:13 PM

@Robusto And man without woman is -wo.

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting do fish need bicyles?

Robusto

Whereas a man can be your friend.

Cerberus

@Kitḫ Thanks!!

user19161

@MattЭллен I guessed but it's best to ask.

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ *Greek

Robusto

9:13 PM

And never forget: a friend will help you move, but a true friend will help you move a body.

Cerberus

@WillHunting It is a feminist saying.

Kitḫ

"Siri, where can I hide a body?"

Cerberus

A variation on "a woman is nothing without her man".

user19161

@Kitḫ Who is Siri?

Matt Эллен

@Robusto a friend will bail you out, a true friend will be in jail with you

Cerberus

9:14 PM

@WillHunting Some Apple thing that talks in a creepy voice.

user19161

@Cerberus A woman without a man is a wo.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

Robusto

@WillHunting You don't know? Siriously?

Cerberus

@WillHunting Oh God, Jas and Rob are fusing.

Kitḫ

@MattЭллен A friend will bail you out, a true friend will take the rap for you.

Robusto

9:15 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I see your daughter isn't old enough to prove you wrong yet.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto Oh, she is. I think I've actually argued it with her already :)

user19161

@Cerberus I am lost again.

Robusto

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Then since you've put that thought into her head, it is only a matter of time.

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 You can but you probably won't.

Cerberus

@WillHunting He made the same joke.

user19161

9:16 PM

@Cerberus Deja vu.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus fusion dance!

Robusto

Feb 4 '11 at 16:04, by Robusto

Yep, just like déjà vu all over again.

13 secs ago, by Robusto

Feb 4 '11 at 16:04, by Robusto

Yep, just like déjà vu all over again.

11 secs ago, by Robusto

13 secs ago, by Robusto

Feb 4 '11 at 16:04, by Robusto

Yep, just like déjà vu all over again.

user19161

Three is the magic number.

Kitḫ

49 secs ago, by Kitḫ

34 secs ago, by Kitḫ

17 secs ago, by Kitḫ

Is there an echo in here?

Robusto

40 secs ago, by Robusto

13 secs ago, by Kitḫ

Is there an echo in here?

Jinx!

6 secs ago, by Robusto

Jinx!

Cerberus

9:19 PM

@MattЭллен Haha wtf. That is dubbed, right? Right?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus yeah :D

but that's the real script

so, the subbed version would say the same

user19161

@MattЭллен Talking about script, there is a site called scribd.

Wales!

@MattЭллен Funneh!

9:20 PM

west Ireland

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Ding!

user19161

Whales!

user19161

I see them swimming.

Robusto

Wails!

Cerberus

@Robusto Close.

Robusto

9:21 PM

@Cerberus The Lake District?

Or is it Scotland?

Matt Эллен

59 secs ago, by Matt Эллен

west Ireland

Kitḫ

debates launching new page without approval

Cerberus

@Robusto I dinged Matt.

@Kitḫ Everyone is laid off anyway: who will notice?

Kitḫ

@Cerberus That's the other workplace.

Cerberus

Right.

It wasn't funny anyway.

Kitḫ

9:22 PM

Hmm. I have to figure out what's up with one of the calculations first.

Robusto

Ah. Me friend from Galway told me, "Dis global warmin' we got now is really messin' with the weather. It only rained twice last week: once fer tree days, and once fer four."

:D

@Cerberus Poop.

@Robusto Hehe nice.

@Robusto Warm.

I wonder whether @Kit will get zis ven.

Kitḫ

9:24 PM

Huh?

Oh.

Robusto

South Carolina?

Kitḫ

Eastern Seaboard.

Yeah. Carolinas.

Cerberus

@Robusto Ding!!

Wow, was that so easy?

There's hardly anything to see!

Robusto

Where else do you have a continental shelf like that?

Kitḫ

And the angle of the coastline tells a lot.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:26 PM

Cerberus

@Robusto No idea!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

So much for Rams, BTW.

Cerberus

@Kitḫ I suppose...but there was no scale.

Kitḫ

Yeah, but scale is inferrable.

aedia λ

Is the Superbowl soon? ducks I know it's like one of these coming weekends or something. Unless it already happened and I missed it.

Kitḫ

9:28 PM

This coming Sunday.

New England v. New York.

Cerberus

aedia λ

@Kitḫ Ah. I didn't think I missed it because I have a feeling my husband said we were going to go to a friend's house and play board games while people who cared watched the game :)

Kitḫ

Frigging Eli. I hate that little weasley guy more than his brother even.

Robusto

@Cerberus Looks like Chesapeake Bay.

Kitḫ

I was going to say New Jersey.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:29 PM

^ Eli.

Cerberus

@Robusto Ding!

Matt Эллен

I was gonna say a dinosaur

Kitḫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 "Image Not Found."

Matt Эллен

ok I have one!

Robusto

Image not fond.

Cerberus

9:30 PM

@MattЭллен I wouldn't have had a clue either.

Matt Эллен

but you have to ask yes/no question to get it

Robusto

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

well time to go pick up my home-made children from daycare.

Matt Эллен

Cerberus

@Robusto Hmm a funny arc...near London?

Kitḫ

9:31 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Later!

@Cerberus ...

@Robusto What!

that's not London

^ Eli.

9:31 PM

@Robusto He must not have heard of the Gateway Arch.

Matt Эллен

the buildings are all wrong

Cerberus

@MattЭллен But nearby?

aedia λ

Oooh ooh that famous arch thingie in... where the heck is it

Kitḫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 guffaw

St. Louis.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus doesn't look British

Cerberus

9:32 PM

@Kitḫ Never heard of it.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@MattЭллен and "the buildings are all wrong" is not London, how?

Matt Эллен

but I could be totally wrong

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Then I give up...

Kitḫ

WTF? Doesn't anyone study geography anymore?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ Yeah yeah like you do.

Matt Эллен

9:32 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 they look like they're too far apart or too tall

Robusto

I used to work in the building opposite the Arch's southern leg. True fact.

Cerberus

We don't learn much about buildings. Certainly not modern ones.

Kitḫ

@Robusto No shit. That's interesting.

It looks so small in that picture.

I remember it being pretty big when we drove past it.

Matt Эллен

plus, I'd know an arch like that

aedia λ

@Robusto Wow!

Robusto

9:33 PM

It's pretty big.

Cerberus

Hmm shape looks familiar.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ That's what she said.

From the side.

Yes, yes.

today) |location=Memorial Drive, St. Louis, Missouri, United States |start_date=February 12, 1963 |completion_date= |inauguration_date= |height= |width= |main_contractor=Mcddsa |architect=Eero Saarinen |architecture_firm=Saarinen and Associates |structural_engineer=Hannskarl Bandel }} The Gateway Arch, or Gateway to the West, is an arch that is the centerpiece of the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial in St. Louis, Missouri. It was built as a monument to the westward expansion of the United States. At , it is the tallest man-made monument in the United States, Missouri's tallest acces...

You really don't know this?

Like the only famous arch in the entire world?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:34 PM

They misspelled Arsch.

Kitḫ

LOL

Cerberus

@Kitḫ I know the shape. But the name doesn't right a bell. I know the Arc de Triomphe, the Arc of Constantine...

RegDwight Ѭſ道

All of you, stop misspelling Arsch. I am not being paid for fixing that many typoe's.

Kitḫ

Seriously, what other famous arches are there?

Matt Эллен

it's 18 years older than me

Cerberus

9:35 PM

@Kitḫ ^

RegDwight Ѭſ道

So that's what, 25 years?

Cerberus

I also know the Arche in La Défense, but only because I've seen it live.

Kitḫ

@Cerberus Why do you insist on giving me Block Island Sound over and over?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus aye, those are famous :D

Cerberus

@Kitḫ Oww do I? Dammit.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:36 PM

@Kitḫ Why won't you just take it once?

Robusto

Kitḫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 I'm not that kind of girl.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ As if.

Cerberus

@Robusto Haha seriously! Funny.

Kitḫ

And hey, where's Matt's gotten to?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:36 PM

He's counting his years.

Kitḫ

It was his turn.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

On one hand.

Matt Эллен

5 mins ago, by Matt Эллен

Kitḫ

I am so bad at closeups.

Matt Эллен

6 mins ago, by Matt Эллен

but you have to ask yes/no question to get it

Cerberus

9:37 PM

@MattЭллен Oh, that isn't where the arch is?

Matt Эллен

no

Kitḫ

@MattЭллен Is it Boolean?

Cerberus

Looks like Europe?

aedia λ

@Cerberus The arch was Rob's!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus yes

Cerberus

9:37 PM

Are those white things ruins?

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ true, I guess. It exists!

Cerberus

@aediaλ Oh! Damn I missed that.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus no

Kitḫ

Is it a river that runs through it?

Cerberus

Hmm...

Matt Эллен

9:38 PM

@Kitḫ yes

it is a famous place, I think people should know

Cerberus

Is there something remarkable on this map that should strike us as such?

Matt Эллен

hmmm, probably not

Cerberus

It looks like a fairly small town.

Kitḫ

Flat land.

Matt Эллен

it's just a famous place

Cerberus

9:39 PM

50k inhabitants?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Stonehenge.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Not a town.

Stratford-on-Avon?

@Cerberus Says who?

9:40 PM

Do people speak a Germanic language there?

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ yes

Robusto

Someone is stealing from LEGO.

Matt Эллен

how did you get it?

Kitḫ

Wahoo!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ Get out of my head.

@MattЭллен No effing way.

Cerberus

9:40 PM

@Robusto Isn't that with two n's?

Robusto

@Cerberus I didn't write it.

Cerberus

@Kitḫ You you...

Kitḫ

@MattЭллен Because I wrote a Shakespearean sonnet that you read today. And Avon is a river.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Next time I just type out what I'm in the middle of typing rather than deleting it and responding to Cerberus instead.

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ oh :D I should have known

Cerberus

9:41 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 Wise.

Kitḫ

It was a good one. I don't think I would have gotten it otherwise.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Robusto

So is Nanoblock stealing LEGO's shit?

Or will LEGO somehow block their attempts to do so?

Cerberus

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ I got it the moment he said it was a famous place. And I haven't read a sonnet in years.

Matt Эллен

9:43 PM

space island

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Panama.

Kitḫ

@Cerberus We've had this one before too.

Matt Эллен

panama?

suez?

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Wow! That is incredible.

@RegDwightѬſ道 Nope!

Kitḫ

sits on hands

Cerberus

9:44 PM

@Kitḫ Oh! Damn. Next time I'll try to come up with something new hard hard for you.

@MattЭллен Nope!

@MattЭллен Quoi?

You see the capital of a country here.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus the ocean looks like space to me

Robusto

@Cerberus Istanbul?

Matt Эллен

kinda like it's oon the edge of a nebula

damnit, of course

Cerberus

@MattЭллен It is separated from space by only a thin layer of gases.

@Robusto Ding!!

Kitḫ

Oh yeah, groovy.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:45 PM

If we've had this before, I must just recall the contents of all the tabs I have currently open.

Robusto

Apr 17 '11 at 18:03, by Robusto

Yeah. Deja vu is a bitch. And then you have to deal with it all over again.

Kitḫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 Sounds like you need an indexing function.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Hasn't your brain indexed their numbers?

Jinx!!

Dog I feel geeky.

Robusto

But it looks like @Cerb is determined to reinvent map/reduce.

Kitḫ

You are a geek!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:46 PM

Nov 3 '11 at 14:58, by Cerberus

Cerberus

@Robusto Quoi?

@RegDwightѬſ道 That one was easier.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus We've had that one before, too.

Robusto

I have a map that is 1:1 scale. It neatly fits over everything in the world. You're sitting on part of it right now.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus And it was you who asked what Map/Reduce was.

Cerberus

So.

Oh, was it something computerish?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:47 PM

And you know what was the funniest thing?

You asked it in French back then, too.

Kitḫ

When you burp the alphabet?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Dec 21 '11 at 19:47, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

We could play map-reduce.

Kitḫ

Oh.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Dec 21 '11 at 19:48, by Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Qu'est-ce que c'est?

Dec 21 '11 at 19:50, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

Cerberus

Haha. See how consistent I am?

aedia λ

9:48 PM

@Kitḫ giggles uncontrollably

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus Istanbul.

I win.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Close.

Kitḫ

@aediaλ My children will delight the world.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus turkmenistan?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus Aretanbul?

whoabackoff

9:49 PM

@Robusto "I have a map that is 1:1 scale. It neatly fits over everything in the world. You're sitting on part of it right now." -awesome.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Nope, but they do speak a related language!!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Wastanbul?

Willtanbul?

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Getting closer.

Kitḫ

@Cerberus Constantinople.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Wouldtambul!

Matt Эллен

9:49 PM

@Cerberus azerbaijan

Kitḫ

Finland.

Cerberus

@Kitḫ I do hope that's a typo, hehe.

aedia λ

A rhinoceros with a big sad eye looking mournfully up at the remnants of his horn stuck in something

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ Well, Constantinople is Tanbul.

Cerberus

@Kitḫ Ding!!

Matt Эллен

9:50 PM

oh

Kitḫ

Holy shit.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Tambul? In which language? I do know Stambul.

Kitḫ

A whole bunch of messages came through at once.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus You don't know Jack.

Robusto

@Kitḫ Logorrhea! Take some Immodium, quick.

Cerberus

9:51 PM

@Kitḫ No, we just type and type.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ Go see an ornithologist about it.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Do I need to?

Ahhh!

What's he linke?

hides in sack

9:51 PM

@Robusto "Immodium Akut: nehmen, und gut!"

Cerberus

@Kitḫ GOTCHA!! Another nice little icon on my tray.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Cerberus

Eww.

aedia λ

@Cerberus Don't you have @Kit already? Or only in a different color?

I'm guessing this image is better off not found...

Cerberus

@aediaλ I don't care, I want moar icons!

Hey this one is nice.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:53 PM

Cerberus

@Reg: Index that!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Is today the International Reg Dwight's Images Not Found Day?

Kitḫ

@Cerberus Pacific. Southern island of the Phillipines?

Robusto

I have to go. Too many tabs open, and I have to close them all before I can commute. Laterz.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus looks close to the rim

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:54 PM

Excuses, excuses.

Matt Эллен

cya @Robusto

Kitḫ

@MattЭллен giggles

Cerberus

@Kitḫ Ding!! Mindanao.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Gesundheit.

Cerberus

@Robusto Bye!

@MattЭллен I think it is!

Kitḫ

9:54 PM

@Cerberus files that away for forgetting later

Cerberus

It may drop over the edge any time.

aedia λ

@RegDwightѬſ道 Um... thanks?

Cerberus

@Kitḫ But you're supposed to know all things mappy!

aedia λ

@Robusto Bai!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus oh noe! are the inhabitants aware of their plight?

aedia λ

9:55 PM

Someone has to rescue them and put them in the Holodeck!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@aediaλ I thought you said my image was not found?

Matt Эллен

@aediaλ yes!

Cerberus

Hey, has anyone ever noticed how alike Java and Crete are?

Kitḫ

@Cerberus Only a few things.

@Cerberus Show me.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus Java and Crete are about as alike as Java and JavaScript.

Cerberus

9:57 PM

@MattЭллен Those irresponsible fools say mañana, mañana like it won't happen within the next two million years.

Matt Эллен

lol

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Java

Java () is an island of Indonesia. With a population of 135 million (excluding the 3.6 million on the island of Madura which is administered as part of the provinces of Java), Java is the world's most populous island, and one of the most densely-populated places on the globe. Java is the home of 60 percent of the Indonesian population. The Indonesian capital city, Jakarta, is located on western Java. Much of Indonesian history took place on Java. It was the center of powerful Hindu-Buddhist empires, the Islamic sultanates, and the core of the colonial Dutch East Indies. Java was also the...

Crete

Crete (; ) is the largest and most populous of the Greek islands, the fifth largest island in the Mediterranean Sea, and one of the thirteen administrative regions of Greece. It forms a significant part of the economy and cultural heritage of Greece while retaining its own local cultural traits (such as its own dialect, poetry, and music). Crete was the centre of the Minoan civilization (), the earliest "high culture" civilization in Europe, which built the first palaces in Europe. Name The island is first referred to as Kaptara in texts from the Syrian city of Mari dating from the 18th...

Not very similar.

Cerberus