Ask Ubuntu General Room

3:22 PM

Use a real one then

user136984

There's nobody around here is there who knows anything about patching and making debdiffs is there? @ThomasWard help me last time, are you around?

user136984

Because so far I think I patched everything fine but debuild -S is failing.

user136984

This is the error I'm getting:

user136984

 fakeroot debian/rules clean
debian/rules:4: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/autoreconf.mk: No such file or directory
debian/rules:5: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/buildcore.mk: No such file or directory
debian/rules:6: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk: No such file or directory
debian/rules:7: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/utils.mk: No such file or directory
debian/rules:8: /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/gnome.mk: No such file or directory
debian/rules:9: /usr/share/gnome-pkg-tools/1/rules/uploaders.mk: No such file or directory

edwinksl

@ParanoidPanda i have not needed to make my own deb yet ;)

user136984

3:29 PM

I'll have a break from this for a while then...

user136984

Until somebody can come on who can help me.

user136984

But Debian packaging really has never worked out when I've been trying it so... :D

cl-netbox

@ParanoidPanda As you know I'm always ready to help ... but this time unfortunately I have no idea ... I never built any own .deb ... so sorry my friend ! :)

Zanna

I have no idea either, only it looks like when you are compiling and you need to have a file .pc for pkgconfig that comes from the dev libs... so what provides .mk files for those utils? >_<

user136984

Ah... I think I may know what the problem is...

user136984

3:36 PM

I didn't actually install any of the dependencies needed for building it... :D

Zanna

that could be an issue :)

user136984

Ooh! Finally hit 13k (again)! :D

Zanna

congratulations :)

edwinksl

grats

user136984

Only 2-3k left to go before I get back to where I was before the Great Purge as some refer to it... :D

edwinksl

3:43 PM

don't speak too soon xD

great purge may happen again :P

user136984

3:55 PM

Now I am having other problems... I need to sign the .changes file with debsign but it says that it can't find my secret key.

user136984

What do I do? How do I sign it?

user136984

It says secret key not available.

Stefano Palazzo

@ParanoidPanda Have you got a secret key?

type gpg --list-keys

as the same user that's running debsign

user136984

@StefanoPalazzo: Should do, but I've had this problem before when I needed to sign my LP CoC.

user136984

Got past it somehow but don't remember how, it's because I have two sets of keys.

Stefano Palazzo

3:59 PM

one of them will be marked as default

user136984

I need to sign this with the other one.

Stefano Palazzo

ah

user136984

Is there not a way to specify which to use?

Stefano Palazzo

well that's still weird. Why wouldn't debsign just use the default one

even if you don't want it

user136984

I don't know, I think it's probably a bug...

Stefano Palazzo

4:01 PM

are you sure that's running as the same user?

user136984

Yes, there is only one user on this machine and that's me.

Stefano Palazzo

Maybe pbuilder changes it, if you're using that

well I was thinking more about root :)

user136984

Well, he's running here as well...

Stefano Palazzo

try just typing echo "hello" | gpg --sign

that's what debsign does

I think

user136984

gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
gpg: signing failed: secret key not available

user136984

4:06 PM

@StefanoPalazzo: But I have previously got it working with both keys...

user136984

So you have no idea then?

Stefano Palazzo

@ParanoidPanda I'm stumped

Maybe your default key doesn't have a secret key

you can type gpg --list-secret-keys (I think)

cl-netbox

Hi @Seth ! :) Hi @StefanoPalazzo ! :)

Stefano Palazzo

Also have a look at the keyring manager

I find it easier to understand

Seth

hi!

Stefano Palazzo

4:10 PM

hi

hey

hi

wassup???

@dino Hi ! welcome back ! :)

dino

thanks

cl-netbox

4:11 PM

@James nothing special ... Hi James ! :)

Stefano Palazzo

I like the new style btw. simple and elegant :)

cl-netbox

@AnwarShah Hello ... again ! :D

Seth

what happened to @dino? Did someone take all the jokes out of him? :(

8

dino

Thanks

Anwar Shah

@cl-netbox :)

cl-netbox

4:12 PM

@Seth yes ... indeed !

gansub

@Serg - are you here ?

Seth

@Serg thanks, I'll check out the indicator sometime next week I think, if I don't get it done today.

cl-netbox

@gansub no ... he is sleeping ... which he does seldom enough ! :)

user136984

@StefanoPalazzo No output from that...

gansub

@cl-netbox - ok thanks

i need help on installing matplotlib

on 16.04

Anwar Shah

4:17 PM

brb

cl-netbox

@gansub where is the problem ?

gansub

@cl-netbox think i got the wrong version :-)

cl-netbox

@gansub then try to purge it and reinstall the correct version

edwinksl

@gansub there are tons of questions about installing all sorts of scientific python packages on AU and SO. have you checked them out yet?

user136984

@StefanoPalazzo: The private key is listed in the GUI.

gansub

4:19 PM

@edwinksl -yes

i have

i usually do a search on SO before asking here

edwinksl

also search on AU

gansub

yea well AU OK

edwinksl

SO regularly closes questions that are purely about installation

cl-netbox

@gansub did you install it from an external repo ?

gansub

matplotlib.org/users/installing.html#installing-from-source

from here @cl-netbox

Stefano Palazzo

4:21 PM

@ParanoidPanda okay thats not normal

edwinksl

@gansub i discourage installing matplotlib from source

it takes a long time to compile and it is error-prone

Stefano Palazzo

I'm on mobile so I can't really help you much sorry

cl-netbox

@edwinksl I agree with that !

gansub

@edwinksl OK

you have used matplotlib ?

edwinksl

yes i use scientific python packages

gansub

4:22 PM

@edwinksl - Ed's my man !

He is a chemical engineer !

edwinksl

i encourage getting it from ubuntu's repos if you are ok with them being somewhat outdated or installing using pip and virtualenv

user136984

@Videonauth: Didn't you help me with signing a file last time? I'm sure you did...

edwinksl

@cl-netbox :D we all have been there...

dino

are you making a package?

I will try to figure out debuild for you after my food.

gansub

@edwinksl are installation questions on topic at AU ?

user136984

4:26 PM

@StefanoPalazzo: Actually, I think I ended up using a browser tool last time judging by the chat history... Do you think that this is a bug then?

edwinksl

of python packages in ubuntu? yeah. there are tons of them

cl-netbox

@gansub stupid question : did you already simply try sudo apt install python-matplotlib ?

gansub

@cl-netbox - i am just trying sudo apt-get install python3-matplotlib

Seth

@dino speaking of that, how familiar are you with UTT's setup.py?

cl-netbox

@gansub try what I suggested : sudo apt install python-matplotlib

Stefano Palazzo

4:29 PM

@edwinksl I'd be very surprised if this was a bug in gpg or debsign

Sorry that was for @ParanoidPanda

edwinksl

@cl-netbox or python3-matplotlib :P people should use python 3 and not python 2 if they are starting from scratch

@StefanoPalazzo me = panda confirmed :P

Stefano Palazzo

:)

cl-netbox

@edwinksl so what happens if you run sudo apt install python3-matplotlib ?

edwinksl

@cl-netbox it installs the python 3 version of matplotlib

cl-netbox

@edwinksl so where is the problem then @gansub ?

edwinksl

4:32 PM

@cl-netbox you recommended the python 2 version, so i just wanted to point out python 3 should be preferred if gansub is starting from scratch :D

gansub

@edwinksl i have to install basemap now 197 MB

peak5390.wordpress.com/2012/12/08/…

edwinksl

just install basemap from ubuntu's repo

cl-netbox

@edwinksl ah ... okay ... I only suggested it, because @gansub said installing python3 version of matplotlib doesn't work ...

edwinksl

$ apt list python3-mpltoolkits.basemap
Listing... Done
python3-mpltoolkits.basemap/xenial 1.0.7+dfsg-3build2 amd64

gansub

@cl-netbox i tried to install from source

bad idea

cl-netbox

4:36 PM

@gansub yes ... obviously ... :(

edwinksl

though i would also say i myself don't install using ubuntu's repos :P i use pip and virtualenv to install my python packages

gansub

is the repo outdated ?

user136984

@StefanoPalazzo: Well, got it signed with the tool now...

edwinksl

@gansub yeah it probably is, but i am not sure by how much. let me check

Stefano Palazzo

Cool. Still no idea what it was?

Seth

4:44 PM

T-Mobile says they require a search warrant for bulk cellular location data ("tower dumps"). Only carrier to do this https://t.co/Qo9x1sVk2X

Tweeted by csoghoian on August 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM

Props to T-mobile for that anyway.

times how long it takes Zach to pop up at mention of T-mobile

edwinksl

@gansub so it looks like only scipy is outdated, so all in all ubuntu repos are still good

$ apt list python3-numpy python3-scipy python3-matplotlib
Listing... Done
python3-matplotlib/xenial,now 1.5.1-1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
python3-numpy/xenial,now 1:1.11.0-1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
python3-scipy/xenial,now 0.17.0-1 amd64 [installed]

$ pip list | grep -E 'numpy|scipy|matplotlib'
matplotlib (1.5.1)
numpy (1.11.1)
scipy (0.18.0)

gansub

@edwinksl matplotlib version is currently 2.0

so repo version is way behind

edwinksl

2.0 is considered unstable

you have to grab it from the git repo

dino

@Seth not much :(

Zacharee1

@Seth hi

gansub

4:54 PM

gnite

user136984

I have GNOME 3.20 installed, I need to build something and make a debdiff for a 3.18 application, can I do that with my 3.20 installation or do I need an installation with 3.18 installed?

edwinksl

why is linux trending first on my fb feed lol

dino

nice

Anwar

Is there any way I can see my visited days in AU site?

I can see for only 1 month

Seth

@dino OK. I'll have to contact Mahesh then, I guess.

@Zacharee1 :p

CodeX

5:09 PM

@Anwar can't use browser history extensions ?

cl-netbox

@ParanoidPanda the most important thing is that all dependencies are matching for the targeted system ... so you need the dependency packages of 3.20 ... :)

Anwar

@CodeX I need it for all 4 years.

user136984

@cl-netbox: Looks like I'll need a VM then...

Anwar

anyway, I checked changing the months.

cl-netbox

@ParanoidPanda that would be a possibility ... :)

Nathan Osman

5:13 PM

o/

CodeX

@Anwar 4 years you spent answering questions :O

Anwar

@CodeX I almost quit after november 2012

CodeX

@Anwar after a fight with ?

Anwar

@CodeX nothing and no one. I wasn't feeling interested any more that time

CodeX

@Anwar what changed then

dino

5:15 PM

@Seth yes please

Anwar

@CodeX don't know

someone messed with find and mv

edwinksl

5:44 PM

uh oh

Nathan Osman

@dino what happened to joker?

user136984

@ThomasWard @StefanoPalazzo: All is now going well by the way, they really like my debdiff! :)

user136984

Which is great because I've never done this by myself before without completely and totally failing at some point! :D

dino

@NathanOsman in abeyance

cl-netbox

@NathanOsman Hi Nathan ! :)

dino

5:50 PM

@cl-netbox Bravo signed for City yesterday..

cl-netbox

@dino aha ... great news for the citizens ! Claudio is a great keeper ! :) ... so one step closer to winning the CL ! :)

dino

I hope so. Any progress is good.

Rinzwind

"nsfw" sorta

http://www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/japanese-pole-vaulters-olympic-dream-crushed-by-his-own-penis/news-story/a7e70dcbd46300b7ab0f4fef16f2fbef
"Japanese pole vaulter’s Olympic dream crushed by his own penis"

cl-netbox

@dino So I learned that you seem to be a big fan of Man City ... I am a big fan of BVB ... though they are far away from winning that cup ... :)

Rinzwind

boxy!

dino

5:54 PM

@Rinzwind please.

Rinzwind

@dino where did the joker go?

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind rinzy ! :)

edwinksl

@cl-netbox oh and i am a liverpool fan. thanks for letting us have your manager

dino

@cl-netbox I am a big fan of sports and football

@Rinzwind had a little fight with him

cl-netbox

@edwinksl hahaha ... yes ... Kloppo will turn the reds upside down ! :D

Rinzwind

5:56 PM

@dino the fake or the real football?

dino

@Rinzwind the one you play with the foot

Rinzwind

@dino the real one :=)

cl-netbox

@dino so the soccer football ... :D

Rinzwind

@cl-netbox nope

it is called ... ascociation football ;-)

dino

association football.

that's why it's called soccer

cl-netbox

5:57 PM

@Rinzwind aha ... never heard this before

Rinzwind

Association football

Association football, more commonly known as football or soccer, is a sport played between two teams of eleven players with a spherical ball. It is played by 250 million players in over 200 countries and dependencies, making it the world's most popular sport. The game is played on a rectangular field with a goal at each end. The object of the game is to score by getting the ball into the opposing goal. The goalkeepers are the only players allowed to touch the ball with their hands or arms while it is in play and only in their penalty area. Other players mainly use their feet to strike or pass the...

There :0

That is the official name afaik

edwinksl

@dino i had an australian colleague who actually calls it association football (and refuses to use soccer) to avoid confusing the americans

dino

@edwinksl nice guy

Rinzwind

and do note the "WORLDS MOST POPULAR SPORT"

edwinksl

anyway i roll my eyes whenever an american calls it soccer

Rinzwind

5:59 PM

@edwinksl thatś what we call HANDBALL >:-D

dino

football or soccer is same thing to me. I don't talk to Americans about their football.

cl-netbox

@dino as you mention it ... American Football is a quite exciting thing too ! :)

edwinksl

@cl-netbox definitely. it took me watching it live in person to finally understand it

dino

It's scary.

I know basic things about a lot of sports.

but some sports are a lot confusing compared to others

cl-netbox

@edwinksl most people think it's just a rough fight ... but to win you need a lot of intelligence and knowledge of strategy ! :)

@dino that indeed is true ... one example : Baseball ... :)

dino

6:04 PM

Heh, baseball I am familiar with.

IanC

hate when I get so lost in my own code that I feel starting over could be better than fixing what I got -.-

dino

Cricket is terrible to newcomers.

cl-netbox

yes that's true as well

@Fabby Hi Sir ! :D

Fabby

O/_

edwinksl

@cl-netbox oh definitely i was one of those people but i 100% changed my mind after learning more

Fabby

6:07 PM

:D

Since when did this become The "bread and circuses" room??? >:)

cl-netbox

@Fabby what do you mean with bread and circus my friend ? :)

Nathan Osman

6:37 PM

Nice. Qt Creator just crashed.

Stefano Palazzo

@ParanoidPanda great!

cl-netbox

@ParanoidPanda Congrats ! well done ! :)

Stefano Palazzo

Yeah

Debian packaging is the preserve of the brave.

Nathan Osman

^--- this

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

8:06 PM

0

Q: How to make sda1 bigger / use default download files in sdb1

I run below command in ubuntu: df -h Output: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev 111G 0 111G 0% /dev tmpfs 23G 8.7M 23G 1% /run /dev/sda1 29G 22G 6.8G 77% / tmpfs 111G 0 111G 0% /dev/shm tmpfs 5.0M 0...

Thomas Ward

8:25 PM

I was pinged and the emails reached out to me, so what was I pinged about

Nathan Osman

8:35 PM

@ThomasWard see invite.

Zacharee1

8:55 PM

This is either spam or OT askubuntu.com/questions/813050/…

This is a problem with Crouton right? askubuntu.com/questions/813078/not-opening-after-upgrade

Thomas Ward

@NathanOsman Looking

@ParanoidPanda debdiffs are easy lol

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

9:15 PM

0

Q: Samba is not showing in my LAN

i can ping my Ubuntu server from windows and also can do vice versa. i have samba installed and webmin. i logged through webmin and tried to configure samba and followed the steps in here http://www.webmin.com/samba-howto.html but it's still not showing. is there any tutorial i can follow ? simp...

ubuntu samba administration

Nathan Osman

codepen.io/thebabydino/professor/NAJpoN

^--- this is live

user136984

@ThomasWard: You're right, they are quite simple.

user136984

Once you know how to do them.

user136984

9:30 PM

@NathanOsman: Good to have your old profile back! Things almost feel normal like they used to! ;D

UTF-8

hi. does anyone have an idea when ubuntu 15.10 und ubuntu 16.04 will get their git package updated the next time?

Zacharee1

@UTF-8 15.10 will never get it

UTF-8

I found 3 bugs in git, 2 of which I told the guys on the git mailing list about and they were nice enough to fix them. I haven't told them about the 3rd one yet because I didn't have a good way of reliably replicating it and now I don't know if either of the 2 other bug fixes already fixed that 3rd one and if it did I don't want to bother them with it

oh, why?

Zacharee1

15.10 is EOL

no more updates

UTF-8

the 3rd one only occurs when using ssh so I'd need some systems with it and my systems are all running 15.10 and 16.04

i thought it has 2 years of support

Zacharee1

9:41 PM

more like 9 months

UTF-8

oh, shit

thanks

user136984

@UTF-8: LTS (Long-Term-Support) releases have from 2-4 years of support. The releases in the middle (15.10 is one of those releases, 16.04 is not) only have 9 months.

UTF-8

than I'm going to update my systems this night

user136984

LTS releases get released every 2 years.

Zacharee1

better do that

UTF-8

9:41 PM

*then

Zacharee1

@ParanoidPanda 2, Panda

every 4 releases

UTF-8

thought 2, too

user136984

@Zacharee1: Yes, I meant cycles...

Zacharee1

:p

user136984

That's what I think in terms of now... My whole life's calendar is based on the Ubuntu release cycles... :P

UTF-8

9:43 PM

okay, other than me going to update my systems really soon. then they'll all be 16.04. when do you think 16.04 will get its git package updated? or where can I find out?

Zacharee1

@UTF-8 you'd probably have to ask whoever manages the repo updates

user136984

Well, you can check if it's waiting in the -proposed channel... Or file a downstream report... If you know it's been fixed upstream then you could file a report asking for it to be backported in. They often just don't know about upstream patch releases.

UTF-8

9:58 PM

i took down my 15.10 system which was connected to the internet

can I figure out the git version in the proposed channel without downloading it?

like is there a website like packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/git-core for the proposed channel?

Nathan Osman

Proposed packages should show up in there.

Oh, hang on.

I was thinking of backports. Never mind.

They will show up in Launchpad though.

Thomas Ward

you can use rmadison

but it's not always proposed

user136984

10:14 PM

Goodnight! :)

user136984

I smell really strongly of Natto... :D

user136984

Nobody else can go near me, but I don't really have a choice... :P But I like the smell.

UTF-8

@thomas but i still have to enable installing proposed packages?

@ThomasWard sry, didn't know how to reference someone

Henry WH Hack v2.0

10:48 PM

WOW! The first dupe and close question on i2p.stackexchange.com

Won't it be funny if the first post of a SE site was a spam?

Zacharee1

What's I2P?

ah

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@Zacharee1 It's a so called tor alternative to keep you anonymous on the internet of spys.

Nathan Osman

11:15 PM

I wish one could transfer rep. from one site to another for the purpose of starting a bounty.

UTF-8

11:27 PM

then people only would bounty rep. from the sites with cheap rep.

Anonymous

hi everyone

Anonymous

@Zacharee1 - I don't intend to have a 1:1 follow ratio on Twitter. It just ends up that way. Until recently (months), I used to follow more than have those follow me

UTF-8

is it normal that ubuntu has the cpu cooking while booting

Core 0: +93.0°C (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

i just noticed this

gets down to 49° to 52° after a few minutes, though

Anonymous

depends on the hardware maybe

Anonymous

for me, no

Anonymous

11:34 PM

I only ever reach those temps when gaming -- on my very very small computer not meant to game but was marketed for it

Anonymous

@UTF-8 ^

UTF-8

have you checked? i have this laptop for like 9 months now and didn't notice it. the fans don't spin up when booting

so i didn't hear anything

Anonymous

I haven't checked, but if my computer works hard at those temps, I def hear it

Anonymous

What laptop are you using? If HP that's your problem :P

UTF-8

well, mine usually, too. if i run something that heats the cpu up to 70°, it gets load. however, the system seems to just not care about the temperature until after a few seconds after it booted

no, i'm through with HP

using an acer, now

Anonymous

11:39 PM

Yeah, we haven't used them in a few years. Back in the day, we've tried maybe half a dozen laptops (some same model, but dups), and they all eventually fried from over heating

Anonymous

My mom has an Acer, too, now!

Anonymous

black edition something I think

UTF-8

same. they even wrote it on the touchpad

Anonymous

So, you're hardware is fine -- there's no issue with that

Anonymous

Look for something in the bios settings. I am not sure what, but maybe there's a setting you can toggle

UTF-8

11:41 PM

you say this from knowing i have an acer laptop? ^^

Anonymous

no, that you have the black edition acer laptop

Anonymous

Like, your hardware is fine, as far as if it was a brand new laptop... Not sure if it is fine after you using it for 9 months though

UTF-8

now, that's funny. the temperature is at 82 degrees right when i log in. i tped in sensors again and it was at 89 degrees. then waited for a second, typed it in, again, and at was already down to 68 degrees

forgot how to access the bios, though ^^

googled it

i'll install the os another time to see if that fixes to problem

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