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Journeyman Geek

00:02

boingboing.net/2016/07/05/thief-robs-gps-tracking-manufa.html I guess their products work ;p

Bob

00:23

O_O

C# 7 might get pattern matching

it's really becoming Haskell Lite at this point :P

Psycogeek

weird, 8T drives are like ~$350-400 (even for low rpm) , WD sells an external box with a 8T stuck in it, and everyone is selling it for $250. I am wondering whats wrong with it :-) or if it wouldnt work on my MB

Bob

@Psycogeek Maybe you're comparing PMR (w/ helium?) to SMR

@JourneymanGeek I see your tracking hasn't updated :(

Journeyman Geek

@Bob its a public holiday ._.

and I don't know how good/bad tracking on registered mail is

Bob

lol

@JourneymanGeek here unless it's specifically trackable then it comes up as tracking not available

though most are trackable

Psycogeek

@Bob Ohhh, i thought they were all helium at that level, and yes some of them are SMR. are you saying that it is an either or thing? Seagates are (almose certian) to be SMR

Bob

00:26

it's usually international that isn't

@Psycogeek SMR can do 8 TB without helium

But it has some performance issues

And personally I'm concerned about long-term reliability

It's much cheaper though

Journeyman Geek

@Bob and I'm still confused that its a local tracking number

Psycogeek

@Bob yes personally i think it is like 6hr mode on VCRs which also sucked for longevity

Journeyman Geek

@Psycogeek external drives being cheaper is a (wierd) thing. But it happens.

and lol

@Bob I've only checked once today ;p

Psycogeek

not enough direct info up front in the ADs , i research further. I was going to stay around the 4T level, which i still can, until these things are tested over time more. It would just save sooo much space and some power for going mobile

Taking the 21T out of my computer, and replacing it with huge unraided 16+ t would change everything.

Bob

@Psycogeek I'm not too familiar with VCRs :P was too young when I last used them

@Psycogeek IMO 5-6 are alright

oldmud0

00:32

I'm so tired of textbooks showing me old macintosh screenshots whenever they talk about computers

Psycogeek

6 hour mode overlapped data (on the tape) on a different azmith, basically it just thrashed stuff together and hoped :-)

Bob

@Psycogeek Good reading: tomsitpro.com/articles/…

Psycogeek

@Bob oh well 6s would be close enough, there are 3s in it now.

oldmud0

wait what are you doing? using a VCR as a tape drive?

Journeyman Geek

of course

oldmud0

00:34

>:D

Psycogeek

@oldmud0 well i did for quite some time (almost) DV and 8mm DV was digital stream data on tape.

and it worked pretty good, although i HATE Tape for computers, because of the lack of randomaccess

qwertyuiop

!!caaaat

ChatBot John Cavil

qwertyuiop

Hey @Bob

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek since they're all internal drives anyway, they're probably the drives that didn't pass QA. Chuck it in an enclosure and blame it on the customer when it fails prematurely.

Bob

00:38

@qwertyuiop 'lo

Journeyman Geek

0_0

qwertyuiop

Anandtech finally released the second half of their Galaxy S7 review... anandtech.com/show/10196/… somewhat interesting read. Also OMFG at the Huawei M8

Journeyman Geek

as opposed to the whatsup m8?

Bob

@qwertyuiop oooh, nice. What's the M8? :P

qwertyuiop

Well, Huawei Mate 8

Bob

00:39

Yay Edge battery life :D

qwertyuiop

I know Huawei are a large company, but just how they managed to come out of nowhere, and design their own CPU that beats the crap out of the best Samsung, Apple, and Qualcomm have to offer, while also beating all 3 in battery life is beyond me

Psycogeek

all i need is a hard drive with the shingles, or it being like a deflated helium baloon after the party is over.

Michael Frank

@qwertyuiop Aren't they state backed?

Bob

@qwertyuiop Weren't they still using ARM cores? Or did they design their own?

qwertyuiop

@Bob Arm based, just like Snapdragon and Exynos and Apple A9

I mean they're all ARM based

Journeyman Geek

00:43

@qwertyuiop Huge in some spaces

Bob

@qwertyuiop I meant cores licensed from ARM Holdings. Cortex, etc.

qwertyuiop

Thing is Samsung and Qualcomm have had several generations and many years to design, build, refine, and improve their custom ARM SoCs.

Huawei just came out of nowhere and raped them with their first offering with Kirin.

Bob

> Quad-core 2.3 GHz Cortex-A72 + quad-core 1.8 GHz Cortex A53

qwertyuiop

Yeah, the Kirin 950 is a Cortex-A72 based

Bob

Qualcomm is the only major phone SoC manufacturer who designs their own cores, IIRC.

qwertyuiop

00:45

Well, Qualcomm, Exynos and Apple cores are all "custom designed"

None of them are fully custom designs from scratch, they're just modified A57 cores or summit atm

Bob

Oh wait. Exynos does "Mongoose" now

@qwertyuiop Huh. Thought Kryo was from scratch. Or was that Krait? Or am I dreaming?

qwertyuiop

Exynos "M1"

Maybe both?

anandtech.com/show/9837/snapdragon-820-preview/2

Bob

@qwertyuiop Is there something I'm missing? How is Huawei much better? o.O

They did slap a 4000 mAh battery in

qwertyuiop

Well, maybe. But it's got better performance, and better battery life, disproportionately so even vs. the S7 Edge's enlarged battery

lol

So yeah, 17% longer battery life combined with 30% better perf in PCMark for example.

(And the Crapdragon 820 S7's do have real difficulty with video encode/recording)

Bob

@qwertyuiop makes me wonder. you say Mongoose are based off Cortex?

qwertyuiop

00:54

I have no idea what Mongoose is based off...

Bob

When it comes to CPU perf, isn't it largely A72 vs M1?

@qwertyuiop All I can find is that it's "custom" :\

qwertyuiop

I've always been under the impression Exynos SoCs used customized/tweaked Cortex designs

Bob

Dunno if ARM Holdings' licence lets them rebrand it like that.

@qwertyuiop Well, this is the first Exynos SoC with an actual custom name on the CPU.

qwertyuiop

True that

Bob

@qwertyuiop It could just be that A72 beats Kryo and M1 in perf? I don't know what other phones use A72 :\

Most flagships are S820 now...

The GFXBench results are interesting. Mate 8 uses a Mali-T880 MP4 while the S7 uses the MP12 variant, which is supposedly far more powerful.

qwertyuiop

00:58

Yeah the Mate 8's GPU figures are abysmal

But I never use the GPU on my phone anywway

anandtech.com/show/9330/exynos-7420-deep-dive/2

Hmm, maybe I'm getting confused between custom SoC's incorporating stock ARM Axx cores and custom cores in certain SoCs

bwDraco

@Bob "Supposedly"? There's three times as many shader cores on the MP12!

qwertyuiop

I've figured that because the likes of Intel and AMD take half a decade or more to design a new CPU core from scratch, that the likes of Qualcomm and Samsung and Apple just used heavily modified Cortex cores

(Rather than complete ground-up redesigns)

> While the Twister CPU core implements the ARMv8-A architecture licensed from ARM Holdings, it is an independent CPU design and is unrelated to the much older but similarly named Cortex-A9 and ARM9 CPU that are designed by ARM themselves and implement the 32-bit ARMv7-A and ARMv5E versions of the architecture.

Say whaaa

Too much new information for me to digest at 2am

Bob

@qwertyuiop ARM's supposed to be much simpler (and smaller footprint) than x86 iirc

bwDraco

Feb 11 at 2:01, by bwDraco

Apple has its own approach to CPU design, and their nearly complete vertical integration lets them design hardware and software to work together as one.

Bob

*shrug* we really can't get this info though. probably buried under mountains of NDAs

qwertyuiop

01:05

Sure, it's simpler than x86 but the differences aren't as extreme as ... like Power8 or MIPS

Bob

point

qwertyuiop

After all it wasn't a huuuge stretch to run Windows on ARM and Android on x86 on consumer products.

bwDraco

POWER8 is a huge core designed to run at exceptionally high clocks.

(5.5 GHz, anyone?)

The whole point of these RISC architectures in enterprise systems is to maximize performance for specific workloads (e.g. database) with lower TCO.

Bob

@qwertyuiop I am surprised at how big the performance gap to the Mate 8 is.

Maybe it runs hotter? :P

qwertyuiop

Though I admit "Can it run ~~Crysis~~ Windows" isn't the most scientific indicator of CPU architecture complexity

Bob

01:09

lol

qwertyuiop

Still. I'm pretty happy with the S7. Performance isn't exactly lacking, and it's a phone I'm fairly happy with,

Bob

Yup. Pretty much. Except that damn edge

bwDraco

Remember that with enterprise systems, TCO is more important than initial cost. These exotic architectures are purpose-designed to maximize performance in precisely these sorts of workloads.

Bob

Maybe I should've waited for a Note? :P

qwertyuiop

You chose that Edge :-P

Bob

01:11

@qwertyuiop At least I get better battery life! :P

qwertyuiop

Note 7 is rumoured to be getting announced within the next few weeks

Bob

Yea, no, not buying that now :P

qwertyuiop

@Bob Sure but if it takes you 20% longer to do things because that damn edge :-P

Bob

I'm hoping for another price drop of the S7 Edge at the shop I bought from

Already got $53 back :D

qwertyuiop

Nice

bwDraco

01:12

x86 is built for consumer workloads that require high single-threaded performance, not enterprise workloads.

Bob

I have 3 months to claim whatever drops there are

bwDraco

Enterprise workloads are usually massively parallel.

Bob

(this was also an experiment in buying devices near launch and betting on price drops... first time I've tried that)

> In this test we start to see that the Mali GPU in the Exynos 8890 and the PowerVR GPU in the A9 are providing a noticeable advantage over the Snapdragon 820's Adreno 530 to a noticeable extent.

That's interesting.

I thought Adreno was generally better than Mali.

Oh and it is in the later benchmarks. Ok.

> but unless you use Samsung's automatic game optimizer system to set render resolution to 1080p it won't do as well as the iPhone 6s

well no shit

whoever could've guessed that rendering at 750 x 1334 is faster than at 1440 x 2560?!?!

qwertyuiop

Heh

Bob

(though that is kinda Samsung's fault for using such a ridiculously high resolution, VR aside)

qwertyuiop

01:16

Some people do need to be told though before they go all bonkers over the iPhone's lead in on-screen benchmarks

Bob

I think I still prefer the photos from my G4, but the S7 is definitely much faster at focusing.

The G4's camera app was better too :P

Also, that bloody edge. I keep focusing on the edges of the screen. Gah.

bwDraco

My phone has a great camera, but I don't use it much :\

I use my phone's camera as a fallback, not for everyday shots.

Journeyman Geek

@qwertyuiop windows was designed from the onset to run on different architectures

bwDraco

!!/wiki Architecture of Windows NT

ChatBot John Cavil

Architecture of Windows NT

The architecture of Windows NT, a line of operating systems produced and sold by Microsoft, is a layered design that consists of two main components, user mode and kernel mode. It is a preemptive, reentrant operating system, which has been designed to work with uniprocessor and symmetrical multi processor (SMP)-based computers. To process input/output (I/O) requests, they use packet-driven I/O, which utilizes I/O request packets (IRPs) and asynchronous I/O. Starting with Windows 2000, Microsoft began making 64-bit versions of Windows available; before this, these operating systems only existed...

qwertyuiop

01:23

And yet it no longer does

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco quantity is a quality all on its own. Also, don't forget intel has some designs that do massively parallel now

@qwertyuiop it still could. There's just no demand for it

bwDraco

Read about the Hardware Abstraction Layer. Windows NT is designed to be portable.

qwertyuiop

Sure it could but Microsoft decided it wasn't worth doing

Journeyman Geek

and least till XP, single and multi core systems (might have?) ran with different HAL options.

qwertyuiop

Hence withdrawing both the Itanium and Arm versions

Journeyman Geek

01:24

@qwertyuiop lets say intel and AMD drop dead tommorrow

Bob

@qwertyuiop Mostly cause just about noone used them :P

Journeyman Geek

an asteroid or two drops on em.

Bob

And maintaining them probably cost a lot.

@JourneymanGeek In that case I'd be more worried about my own survival...

or possibly lack thereof

Journeyman Geek

MS could trivially get a new port for whatever remains in the burning reckage.

@Bob besides the point!

qwertyuiop

@Bob Yeah, same

Bob

01:25

@qwertyuiop Aren't they still doing ARM in Win10 IoT?

bwDraco

Windows 10 Mobile is ARM.

Same underlying kernel for the most part.

Again, hardware abstraction layer.

Hardware abstraction

Hardware abstractions are sets of routines in software that emulate some platform-specific details, giving programs direct access to the hardware resources. They often allow programmers to write device-independent, high performance applications by providing standard Operating System (OS) calls to hardware. The process of abstracting pieces of hardware is often done from the perspective of a CPU. Each type of CPU has a specific instruction set architecture or ISA. The ISA represents the primitive operations of the machine that are available for use by assembly programmers and compiler writers. One...

oldmud0

holy william shatner

huawei couldn't have topped the charts without some... assistance

bwDraco

!!/xkcd 676

ChatBot John Cavil

If I'm such a god, why isn't Maru *my* cat?

oldmud0

it's too good to be true

so, all I've read are people converting binary to a digital visual format, which goes through the wire to an analog visual format, which then gets written by the VCR in NTSC/PAL

what if just hack the VCR and bypass the whole "convert to video" thing

maybe better density?

Journeyman Geek

01:44

@oldmud0 they went for a fairly low power core

+ they have close chinese government links + lots of chinese arm makers

dpollitt

Question about wifi routers... Just got a dual band router for the first time. It creates two wireless networks, one in the 2.4ghz range and one in the 5ghz range - each with their own SSID. Are my devices (like an iPhone 6 and a Win 10 laptop) intelligent enough to use whichever network is better on the fly or do I need to go and choose the network I want depending on if i value speed or range at the moment?

qwertyuiop

They will only auto switch on the fly if both networks have the same SSID

dpollitt

@qwertyuiop Gotcha, so is that a best practice in a "typical" home environment using a dual band router? Just use the same SSID for both bands?

By default this TP-Link router appends _5G to the second SSID. Two distinct SSIDs by default.

This seems to be the answer, but since its 5 years old I can't help but wonder if things have changed slightly and the recommendation would be different. Some comments on the top answer hint at changing preferences even:

94

Q: Does it make sense to keep different SSIDs for 2.4GHz and 5GHz wireless networks?

My router can have different SSIDs for 2.4 and 5 GHz and I'm not sure if it's better to have the same SSID or not. Initially I put the same network but I got confused when the MacBook Pro displayed me two networks with the same name, an I was not able to distinguish between then. So the next st...

oldmud0

02:05

If you have the two of the same SSID in the same home network, it is obviously an intruder in a van and you need to lock down your home network immediately, change all your passwords, FULLY back up all of your computers with encryption, and move all confidential data to the encrypted cloud such as Dropbox or Amazon Glacier where it is safe and sound. You must also factory reset and reflash all your routers and switches (60-60-60) to ensure the attacker did not plant any malware in your equipment

Some security researchers also suggest wearing a tinfoil hat for about 5 to 10 days, even during sleep, to prevent any harmful EM waves possibly being emitted from any advanced equipment the attacker may own.

dpollitt

lol what are you talking about? I need to get out a tin hat? haha

Psycogeek

what cause the intruder is going to get my porn :-)

dpollitt

Wow super useful troll I see. I guess this room isn't for actual questions

Journeyman Geek

@dpollitt I tend to have different SSIDs so I know what I'm connected to

it was a troubleshooting thing initially cause I do dual APs

hm

smacks @oldmud0

oldmud0

Security is a massive problem in this highly connected world. In fact, Stack Exchange alone is hacked thousands of times a day.

However, the attacks are so sophisticated nobody ever notices.

Journeyman Geek

02:08

@dpollitt talking about stuff is fine.

dpollitt

@JourneymanGeek Thanks, helpful. I don't really want to walk around my yard/house switching bands on my iphone, you know. I'm not sec expert nor care to be, just want to setup this router in a common sense way and forget about it.

Bob

@dpollitt Funny, I was wondering about that just a couple days ago.

In theory they should switch.

Journeyman Geek

@dpollitt I think it comes down to 2.4 and 5 ghz being good at different things.

Bob

In practice, it depends a lot on your specific access point and client.

Journeyman Geek

and switching APs being something no one's quite gotten right.

Bob

02:09

The roaming aggressiveness plays a part.

oldmud0

The researchers also tell me that even stone tablets are somewhat susceptible to corruption from solar flares.

dpollitt

Too bad SE doesn't let you block users...

Bob

Some access points specifically force a switch by delaying 2.4 GHz connections.

Journeyman Geek

@oldmud0 one more troll and I'd get annoyed. You don't want me annoyed

dpollitt

Oh wait... :-P

oldmud0

02:10

sorry I needed to let off some trolling, I haven't done this in months.

I'm not very active here.

Journeyman Geek

@oldmud0 feel free, Somewhere else.

oldmud0

sadly the only acceptable audience for trolling is 4chan

and maybe some joke sites

Journeyman Geek

@dpollitt asus and dlink do the seperate SSIDs thing too

dpollitt

Its hard to troll someone who isn't... how do you say this; stupid?

Bob

@dpollitt The long and short of it is: unless you need 2.4 GHz for range or compatibility reasons, you're probably better off just turning it off.

Journeyman Geek

02:11

@dpollitt I think the idea's to annoy rather than misinform.

dpollitt

Good point. Success!

Journeyman Geek

@Bob "compatibility reasons" BANE OF MY EXISTENCE!"

*

oldmud0

It's a satire of legitimate but paranoid answers

Journeyman Geek

@oldmud0 which is appropriate if someone is paranoid.

dpollitt

Alright, thanks kind folks for your input. It sounds like the definitive answer is, do whatever works for me! Which is to say, I'm not going to think very hard about this and just setup 1 SSID and call it a day. I'll revisit if I run into issues. I'm out of here, cheers!

Journeyman Geek

02:14

@dpollitt that's the reverse of what I did, but yeah, that's a great idea ;p

dpollitt

@JourneymanGeek Thumbs up

Journeyman Geek

Of course I have no modern 5ghz devices right now

oldmud0

My modem and router both have 5.8 GHz

Journeyman Geek

my routers both do it (N and AC)

my devices don't, other than my home linux box. Which dosen't need wifi.

oldmud0

wish more devices could support 802.1x

it could possibly bring a more seamless experience regarding authentication

Bob

02:19

@JourneymanGeek heh. I went the other way. finally got an ac router after having many devices that do it :P

oldmud0

like imagine connecting to a public access point using OAuth2

Journeyman Geek

@Bob next laptop refresh would be AC, but that's delayed by the fact that my x220 is still working well. Its likely my first job +1 big purchase ;p

oldmud0

Haven't had any problems with my router ever since I reflashed to dd-wrt

Bob

@oldmud0 you'd need a captive portal for that, not 802.1x... oauth assumes you already have internet access

oldmud0

ye but aren't captive portals horrible

Bob

02:23

generally? yea. they're an ugly hack

but they work where 802.1x doesn't

Journeyman Geek

@Bob NFC stickers!

;p

oldmud0

wow, I'm looking through my router traffic and my house doesn't even do 15 GB a month

Bob

you obviously need to download more linux distros

oldmud0

obv install gentoo

I got into compiling stuff again... this time it's aseprite

"just pay him money you lazy butt"

"bet you couldn't write better"

"hey you said that not me"

as you can see, I corroborate my own ego

Wait wait wait... did chat just pull an abort, retry, ignore on me?

it said "try again in 1 seconds - retry / edit / cancel"

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek Lenovo x220? I have an x230 at home. Love it.

Journeyman Geek

02:29

@MichaelFrank has the old keyboard. Needs a new battery, but otherwise, its great.

upgraded to 8gb of ram and SSD

oldmud0

I have fujitsu lifebook th700

Good rugged design. Only problem is that the keys are starting to come off. It's missing the D key and it looks like the shift key is next

Probably dropped one too many times by its previous owner

It even plays Project M all right

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek I was going to put an SSD in mine, but the only one I had spare was too thick. :<

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank 0_0

I thought they were all z height.

Manoj Agrawal

hi

Michael Frank

This was an OCZ Vertex II maybe.

Journeyman Geek

02:35

I actually put the one I got from the windows 8 contest when I upgraded my desktop's ssd to a 850 pro

Michael Frank

@ManojAgrawal Hi

You got an SSD from that contest?!!

I got a t-shirt and a sticker.

Manoj Agrawal

what disscussion is going on here

Michael Frank

!!topic

ChatBot John Cavil

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Journeyman Geek

yup. Was one of the consolation prize winners.

@ManojAgrawal take a look at the scrollback ;)

Michael Frank

02:36

@JourneymanGeek lol an SSD as a consolation... what was the main prize? It's been a while...

Journeyman Geek

a surface IIRC

was kinda miffed I didn't win, was a raffle type thing

oldmud0

what??? I would have gotten an SSD over a surface

Manoj Agrawal

on whAt contest

oldmud0

then again, I'm just an idiot

at least not as bad as the general populace

Michael Frank

@ManojAgrawal When Windows 8 launched, the website had a contest to generate questions/answers specific to Windows 8.

Journeyman Geek

02:38

Super User Blog: Super User Contest Winners!

kronos on November 14, 2012

Great job everyone. We had a great go around with this contest and lot of participants. With over 2000 posts during the contest period there were plenty of questions and answers about Windows 8. For more stats, Bob put together a stats web app where you can compare contest stats and even personalize it! Go give it a check out for more details on the contest as a whole.

All winners will receive an email from the Stack Exchange team with instructions on how to get your prize. (Note: the T-Shirt emails have already been sent, so if you achieved Level 1 and didn’t get the email, check you spam folders and make sure you weren’t suspended for cheating.) …

@oldmud0 was a surface RT, so the SSD was clearly a better price ;)

oldmud0

aren't tablets just computers intended to make people blind

it's a ploy to drive the optics industry

don't worry, we'll sort this mess out..

Journeyman Geek

@oldmud0 tin foil hat and meds. Stat. ;p

Bob

@MichaelFrank Yea... got to level 4 and got a shirt -_-

I wonder if I can dig up that old stat site

Journeyman Geek

I think I got up to level 1.

Michael Frank

Ha, I tried the link... super dead.

Bob

02:41

was probably hosted on the buyvm vps at the time

Journeyman Geek

tho took a while to get warmed up

Bob

@JourneymanGeek level 1 was the tshirt level

oldmud0

wait.......... what happened to optical drives then? Oh right, people kept finding an infinite amount of triangles in them, so the Illuminati stepped back for slightly more subtle involvement

Bob

4 was the surface level

Journeyman Geek

@Bob other ~~right~~ level

level 4 then ;p

oldmud0

02:42

I think I deleted that insider contest email

Bob

lo

Journeyman Geek

I hope I don't need to explain other right ;p

oldmud0

"lol and behold"

Bob

@MichaelFrank I can dig it up if you want :P

Manoj Agrawal

@MichaelFrank hnmm

Michael Frank

02:52

@Bob Only if you really want to, I wouldn't be bothered if I didn't see it.

oldmud0

you can buy a tape drive for the price of a small car

what is the world coming to

a little tiny drive.. for $2000

I call bull

Probably ridiculous profit margins

Just like Texas Instruments and their silly TI-84 monopoly, along with Verisign who's about to go broke from Let's Encrypt

$20! Hahahahhha!

It's uh, wrong by the way

Michael Frank

I have a bunch of those sitting around the workshop.

oldmud0

just, you know, a couple?

LTO3?

Anything below LTO5 sells for dirt nowadays I think

Michael Frank

That says LTO-6 on it. But yea, they look identical to that... and there's a stack of 'em.

Bob

@MichaelFrank you'll have to remind me in about 7 hours :P

I don't have the private key here

Michael Frank

02:59

FYI, Pokemon Go has released.

This should probably be stickied.

oldmud0

what, is that the kid friendly version of CSGO

PK:GO?

Painted Kettle: Goats Online

I'd like to see a game named "Choryon"

Please, Clippy, help me

> It looks like you're trying to see a game named "Choryon".

Michael Frank

Caught me a Charmander as my starter...

Next Pokemon I run into is a bloody Zubat.

Michael Frank

03:32

Ugh... Turns out there's a Zubat/Magikarp spawn outside my window at work.

YAY?

HackToHell

Does anyone have experience with Django ?

Working on a largish API on it, wondering if I should use function based views or Model based views.

Bob

03:53

@MichaelFrank Phone or DS? Free? Price?

Michael Frank

@Bob Phone.

Free.

Bob

Interesting.

Michael Frank

It's like Ingress.

Bob

I assume in-app purchases?

Michael Frank

Yea, in apps purchases, but from the looks it's just convenience purchases.

Psycogeek

04:02

well that was fun, looks like the HGST 10T could have shingles anyways (one web source). and we really cant be positive the 8t doesnt, although it does have 7 platters instead of 4or5. Then i realised the other reason why it really should be helium, or at least way better sealed. mobile temperture fluxuations, and small mobile breathing , ya know how just a cars windows fog up , add 2 dogs , then some arizona freezing, and it should be sealed.

Of course , being a cheapskate, figuring out how to nitrogen seal an Air drive, would be something i would try :-)

to add to the fun, hgst.com/products/hard-drives/ultrastar-he8 there isnt just one. While there was indications that they (any of them) could be 512 sector represented or 4K represented, they have fully different models for the 4K, which I think would work best.

Bob

blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20160705-00/?p=93805

@MichaelFrank Ah, fairly typical then :P

Psycogeek

(ohh link not complete) see P/N Selector , for the different models

i donno it could just be how it is formatted at the factory, but I did work with the first 4K drives that existed (WD Ears), and a drive jumper is what changed them to compatable 512sector representation. I got those for like 1/2 price because nobody could get them to work right (reading the directions might have helped)

Now i assume 4K sectors would blend right in without being even noticed in todays modern hardware?

Most of these sellers wouldnt even know which model they were selling , so find the exact model and have something else sent anyways.

Unknown123

04:37

Hi guys, What is the difference between x64 and x86_64? I don't understand what does "amd64 - 64-bit version runs on x86-64 based computers" means on gparted website gparted.org/download.php

Psycogeek

now the price is fully doubble when a 8T in a box with whatever drive (rarely was a great one) is $250 and the HGST HE 4K that is that specific , is $500. Some reviewers would say take 2 and back-up :-) but 2 dead ones from platter popcicles wouldnt help

Bob

@Unknown123 same-same

Unknown123

@Bob, so I can't use gparted x86_64 on 32-bit processor right?

Psycogeek

it says AMD64 - 64bit version runs on both x86 (which is 32bit) and 64bit

Michael Frank

@Unknown123 No.

Unknown123

04:51

@Psycogeek umm, so it doesn't same as x64?

Psycogeek

I dont know for sure, maybe they are saying " x86-64 based computers" to refer to the idea that all 64bit computers are also backwards compatable with 32bit stuff today.

why a simple partition program would need to access Memory beyond 4gig spaces :-) and what processor it is and if the program is compatably run in 32bit , wouldnt change its ability to access the drives anyway at any bitwiseness.

so the safest one (like they say there) is the 32bit one, which would be backwards compatable on most systems.

Psycogeek

05:08

gparted.org/faq.php the FAQs say you need more parts and pieces besides. "You will need Parted >= 1.7.1 and Gtkmm >= 2.8.x"

Pandya

One great @Journey! stackexchange.com/leagues/3/alltime/superuser/2009-07-14/…

Journeyman Geek

@Pandya at the very least, an interesting one ;)

@Unknown123 might be worth looking at the wikipedia pages for context. Oddly enough, the 'basic' 64 bit x86 extensions we use were designed by AMD rather than intel, and intel licenced it from them - x86_64 is the 'vendor agnostic' name for it, sure, but linux typically calls it AMD64 internally

You can't run 64 bit on a 32 bit only processor, but a a 64 bit processor would run 32 and 64 bit OSes

With something like clonezilla, unless you have secure boot, 32 bit's fine

Bob

@JourneymanGeek what's secure boot got to do with it

Journeyman Geek

IIRC the 64 bit version of clonezilla has a bootloader with the shim for secureboot.

so you don't need to turn it off

Bob

05:26

odd

Journeyman Geek

(I don't really use clonezilla much so I might be wrong. )

Bob

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Q: Wifi is acting bad

Recently I have been experiencing a lot of issues with my WiFi. Most of the issues are the following: Wifi randomly disconnects so I have to go over and connect it manually I am getting 4/5 bars of WiFi on average I am getting very high ping in games (100 ms if I get lucky but, I get 500+ on av...

wireless-networking wifi-driver

"Wifi is acting bad" lol

> Wifi randomly disconnects so I have to go over and connect it manually

O_O

Journeyman Geek

ehhhh

sounds like my place on a bad day ;p

that said, I know what's the problem so meh

HackToHell

05:42

Does any web based js runner like codeacademy allow live editing by two people ?

Bob

@HackToHell jsbin iirc

jsfiddle might too

HackToHell

cool ! lemme check it out

Bob

> Coming features (currently in closed alpha or under pro)

Collaborative mode

jsbin fail

it's in the bloody title!

HackToHell

jsfiddle is smooth ^_^

Journeyman Geek

\o/

got matrix federation working

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