Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

Hakase

3:00 PM

I don't think one mascot can possibly be liked by everyone

ardaozkal

@Quill I agree tbh

Hakase

better just have this glyph

Quill

one mascot or one design is hard

ardaozkal

Lets have many designs and mascots!

Hakase

ye, except they're all gonna be bad

JNat

3:00 PM

@Quill meta.anime.stackexchange.com/search?q=mascot+is%3Aquestion

Hakase

and SE is not gonna pay for any of them

ardaozkal

< didn't eat or drink in the last 15 hours. ignore my stupid messages.

Hakase

I've proposed that idea a long time ago, people seemed to like it, but who's gonna do it? nobody

Taisho

Quill

we should just have the site icon as a manga speech bubble with the title in Wild Words and the background a custom comic of the mods battling the ID req dragon

JNat

3:02 PM

Getting a design that please the whole community is gonna be hard... it'd be much harder to do the same for a mascot

ardaozkal

@JNat hence I recommended multiple designs.

SE designers would hate us if we proposed that tho

JNat

@ardaozkal that only works as a joke :P

Quill

@ardaozkal Everyone loves a challenge ;)

JNat

not a serious proposal

Hakase

I bet it costs them a lot of money

multiplying that money by the number of themes we want is a bit out of the question

JNat

3:05 PM

@Hakase what do you mean? We have an in-house design team

ardaozkal

@JNat that wouldn't work that well for Anime.SE

Hakase

well, it still costs to pay their salary for however long they'll be working on it

JNat

@ardaozkal not following

Quill

@ardaozkal the design team research the topic and ask the users of the site for feedback

JNat

@Hakase Oh, yeah. So it doesn't cost us more. It just means other stuff would get postponed

Quill

3:07 PM

@JNat he's saying they might not know the topic of Anime well enough to make a design that satisfies our brutal regulars

Hakase

I've always wondered how designers work because if you're a programmer, you're basically always busy, but when you're done with a design, you'll have lots of downtime until somebody decides to give you a next task, and what then? they're just sitting around for weeks?

Toshinou Kyouko

@JNat but we are the most important site

Hakase

^

ardaozkal

^

JNat

@Quill yeah, but that can apply to every site, really

@Hakase This site has been in a queue for over two years, so I guess you can deduce from that that our design team does not really have downtime ;)

Hakase

3:08 PM

ask question button = tomato and is squishes when you press it

JNat

They don't sit around

ardaozkal

@Hakase 10/10

JNat

@ToshinouKyouko true, true

Hakase

well, idk then

I'd like to know their creative process, etc

ardaozkal

TBH I don't think that we can get a relevant design with such a wide topic.

Quill

3:09 PM

there's probably some weirdo's Medium post out there about Designers' workflows

Hakase

japanese language has a super simplistic theme, and it looks very neat

we could have something like that

ardaozkal

@Hakase pretty much yeah

by relevant, I meant that

JNat

@ardaozkal not sure if relevant is the word you're looking for, then :P

Hakase

I don't think it would be particularly beautiful if we tried to turn the theme into a mangaka's workspace sketch coz it's usually all dirty with rubber eraser bits and pencil shavings

JNat

either that or I'm missing your point

Hakase

3:11 PM

ink spots, etc

we all know what each of us means :p

it's not gonna be easy to please everyone

JNat

@Hakase 8164.org/stack-exchange

From Jin, Design manager

The creative process :p http://t.co/3nuoIjgII1

Tweeted by stephane_m_ on January 18, 2014 at 4:05 PM

and from Stéphane, designer

ardaozkal

@JNat I meant that we are probably not going to get a design that includes anime and manga sketches/characters etc, but more like Japanese Language, simple and representing the culture.

Quill

I think Paweł's blog has some stuff too

JNat

@ardaozkal Ah, I see. It'll still be relevant, though

Hakase

oh, hi @Jin

Quill

3:15 PM

woah /summon Jin worked

Jin

@ardaozkal FYI I'm working with our creative director Kurtis to come up with a cool design for anime/manga site. it's going to be quite involved that's why it's taking a while :)

ardaozkal

Hello @Jin

Jin

we're not going to settle for a simplistic theme i can tell you that :)

Hakase

damn I don't think we can all agree on a single mood around anime even

ardaozkal

/insert hype gifs

Jin

3:16 PM

we're at an early stage of brainstorming. most likely we'll be commissioning a talented artist to exec the vision we have. i've been scouting deviantart

we're also thinking about a mascot for the community as well. this would help us to create user swag in the future.

Hakase

I just hope it's not gonna be all over the top in your face like some eyebleeding animation styles

Quill

well when you go from questions about involved dramatic story explanations to talking about the identity of anime and manga you get a somewhat broad sense of identity

JNat

@Jin ahahah

17 mins ago, by JNat

@Quill not this again :P

Jin

@ton.yeung we love 画 logo the community already has. we most likely will create the final logo based on that.

JNat

16 mins ago, by JNat

@Quill http://meta.anime.stackexchange.com/search?q=mascot+is%3Aquestion

Quill

3:17 PM

JNat is our man on the inside

ardaozkal

@Jin user swag? just when I thought that it couldn't get better.

JNat

@ardaozkal every site that has a design has it

Jin

the more passionate a community is, the harder it is to design for :). it's a good problem to have though!

Hakase

mascot is probably gonna cause the most heated discussions, and personally I don't think it's a good idea to have one

ardaozkal

@JNat oooh, you mean like the SO t-shirts?

Still hype.

JNat

3:18 PM

@ardaozkal shirts and stickers

Hakase

it's about the atmosphere, and not one single character, so idk how that would work

JNat

and if the planets line up, there might be a third special item

Jin

yeah anime/manga is kinda like video games. the user base is very passionate and vocal, but the topic covers a wide range of genres.

Hakase

and even the atmos are different, so it's even less simple

Quill

anyway, if you need some help with inspiration, please do ask on meta @Jin our users would love to hear about progress and to give you guys feedback :)

Hakase

3:19 PM

well, yea, what you said

oh we'd love to hear about progress but please don't take any inspiration from us, it would be devastating

Jin

btw i was in china for vacation for a month in china april-may.

this is my loot:

scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p600x600/…

ardaozkal

Is that a narudoraemon?

doruto

@JNat a dakimakura?

3:21 PM

oh god no

JNat

@Hakase I hope not

In fact, I'll do my best to make sure not

Hakase

haha

Jin

kagemon

can you guys see this? facebook.com/jin.yang/posts/10154175483380842

Quill

yeah

ardaozkal

I can

Jin

3:23 PM

that store was heaven...

Hakase

while we're talking about designs, is there any way you could influence the chat meisters and enable us some anime database oneboxes?

Jin

@Hakase for which site?

Hakase

myanimelist, anime planet, a few more

JNat

@Jin ahah, the giant gundam

Quill

they have a store like that in Akihabara that auctions second hand figures

Hakase

3:25 PM

I just use MAL myself, idk about others

ardaozkal

@Hakase well, until then, we can only hope @Quill adds this: github.com/The-Quill/SE-Chat-Oneboxer/issues/34

Quill

oh yeah I wrote a oneboxer thing. it doesn't have MAL yet though

Hakase

we can do client-side oneboxing with a userscript

btw have you guys seen our starscript? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/235178/…

ardaozkal

MyAnimeList is possible to onebox, it has an anime/manga detail API.

Quill

@Hakase I didn't know people hadn't seen it

Hakase

3:28 PM

well, we got outsiders and new users too

I'm all for improving everything, that includes chat

imo it should be an official option to minimize the sidebar

umm… >.>

I see about 20% fewer messages on the screen that way

that's not right

per screen

and the font size is whack

might as well pinch-zoom too

so much for minimizing the view

desktop version in a small window works much better than the mobile version

I've been waiting for this site

docs-beta.stackexchange.com

CuddleBunny

3:44 PM

yeah, can't wait for public release

I can only imagine... "here is a public link to my spreadsheet, add equations please!"

includes sensitive financial information

Hakase

ok is it just me or does the search crash when you look for "data"?

try this: chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=data&user=36474&room=6697

firefox dies every time

ardaozkal

ff47 here, no issues

Hakase

wtfff

CuddleBunny

@Hakase Firefox dies for about 20 seconds but it eventually loads.

v48.0a2

ardaozkal

It instaloads on me.

CuddleBunny

3:53 PM

Edge loads instantly

Taisho

Hakase

this is weird

takes about a minute for me

oh I think it's a userscript

let's see which one

CuddleBunny

the only userscript I have is the image one

JNat

@Hakase my browser sorta choked for 10 seconds, but then it loaded

ardaozkal

weird

do you all have image userscript?

Hakase

3:58 PM

ya I think it might be it

JNat

I do

ardaozkal

I do have an edited version of it (only on maidcafe), might be why it might not cause hang on me

CuddleBunny

yeah, loads instantly if I turn off image script

Hakase

it's on the same domain so it works in search too

@MadaraUchiha found a bug in the star script :p

ardaozkal

I replaced the match settings with "// @match *://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/*" so that is probably why it is ok for me

Hakase

4:01 PM

should make it rooms/* to work in all rooms

ardaozkal

(not all other rooms have this much images in starlist)

Hakase

but not in search

it's always fun when they do

ardaozkal

oh god no

now my most starred github repo is a gag project I made in 10 minutes

github.com/ardaozkal/Rickroll-Wifi

CuddleBunny

starred.

:P

Hakase

it's just 7 stars

but good thing you added that description

ardaozkal

4:05 PM

@Hakase my top used to have 5*

(and I worked on that for months)

Hakase

if you want more stars for it, you can just spam it in relevant places

like some SO chatrooms

CuddleBunny

I have 0 stars, it is okay. None of my things are done though

ardaozkal

It doesn't work atm anyways (worst part of developing a mod menu is this), will remake that this summer.

Hakase

hmm my best project so far has about 2500 stars… (it's Taisho)

ardaozkal

wow

Hakase

4:08 PM

you can see them here chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/6697/maid-cafe-/?tab=stars

hehe

it's just the message count tho

multiple stars per message

an impressive number :p

CuddleBunny

lol

ardaozkal

lol you got me

CuddleBunny

@Hakase have you thought about porting any of your bots to any of the new bot framework things that have been popping up lately?

Hakase

I'm using a certain chat api for .net

idk anything about that stuff

ardaozkal

chatexchange.net?

Hakase

4:11 PM

ye

ardaozkal

isn't that, like that only one? It is pretty neat tho

CuddleBunny

I was looking at this when it was announced and it looks pretty slick: dev.botframework.com

Taisho

ardaozkal

@CuddleBunny lol he page is %100 scripts

Hakase

eeh looks too closed source for me

ardaozkal

4:12 PM

it is impossible to see anything with noscript

CuddleBunny

yeah, most websites are like that

Hakase

and it supposedly relies on ms servers

CuddleBunny

even half a decade ago: tobyho.com/2010/03/11/how-much-of-the-web-actually

Hakase

it's nice for super slow devices

CuddleBunny

I don't own any Apple products :)

Hakase

4:16 PM

talking about intel atom cpu netbooks

CuddleBunny

even those are faster than iPads

Hakase

really?

ardaozkal

technically yes

iOS is a very minimal OS

I use noscript because... IDK

CuddleBunny

my dual core 1.2GHz windows phone blows any iOS device out of the water over any of the web apps we make

ardaozkal

@CuddleBunny go windows phone!

CuddleBunny

4:18 PM

with both WP8's IE10 and WP10's Edge

ardaozkal

< former WP user and developer

WP is a really good OS

I would keep using it if my watch worked with it (aka if pebble released an app).

CuddleBunny

well, was

WP10 is losing its identity a bit

ardaozkal

Indeed

Hakase

so what? hack the database somehow

or do they use super secret encryption?

ardaozkal

huh?

Hakase

4:20 PM

it's just bluetooth, isn't it?

can't you connect it with some watch api lib

ardaozkal

oh

We can connect it, however background communication and notification access are both internal APIs

Hakase

I bet you can sniff the packets

ardaozkal

between the watch and phone?

You can't, it is encrypted.

You can, however, decompile the android app

CuddleBunny

there are some 3rd party Pebble apps in the store, very limited though

Armin

@CuddleBunny wow that graphic at the end is pretty useless without complete legend xD

ardaozkal

4:22 PM

Yeah, I own them all

Hakase

I bet it's doable

what about this? developer.pebble.com

ardaozkal

There used to be a way to do it for PebbleOs2, but with 3, it broke.

CuddleBunny

@Armin yeah, lol.

ardaozkal

@Hakase pebble said no to microsoft when they did a notification demo (going to try to find a lin). The demo leaked online and used to work well for Pebble OS 2, but with Pebble OS 3 it stopped working.

Hakase

I mean what's stopping you from making an "ios app", submitting it to them in exchange for a code (or whatever the hell encryption scheme they use), and then getting it to connect on wp?

ardaozkal

4:25 PM

oh

Not that kind of encryption.

Classic bluetooth encryption, the pair thing

Also individual apps can't connect to pebble

Hakase

how does that work then

ardaozkal

There is an API on ios and android with the official pebble app for that

Taisho

Hakase

well, if you say it can't be done, then idk

don't have any real experience with bluetooth and mobile apps

CuddleBunny

I'm waiting on something like the MS band but with at least a week of battery life before I hop on the whole watch/fitness wagon.

Braiam

4:54 PM

I remember that SE disabled the tag character limit for A&M but can't find the meta post, do anyone remember?

JNat

@Braiam disabled? Temporarily?

Braiam

@JNat no, permanent. Due the tendency of authors to write very, very long titles

especially new titles

JNat

@Braiam I think we have a 25 character limit in place

Don't remember that

Braiam

> The tag 'a-very-long-ass-tag-that-i-created-as-test' is too long; the maximum length is 25 characters.

:(

I remember a site that was disabled for them

JNat

not here

to the best of my memory, at least

Braiam

5:05 PM

let me ask in MSE

Yuuki

5:23 PM

This manga is so good for reaction shots.

ardaozkal

5:50 PM

@Yuuki added to my readlist

Yuuki

Every chapter is basically a trainwreck.

ardaozkal

@Yuuki does it have any kind of NSFW scenes?

will download and read on school etc according to that

None that I've seen.

#post Kiznaiver

5:55 PM

Cool, all set

#status

Taisho

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JNat

#post status

Taisho

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JNat

#post tag

Taisho

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JNat

5:56 PM

@Taisho Why that final "." there, @Hakase?

ardaozkal

neat

Sakamoto

6:26 PM

0

Q: How do all of the dbz budakai 3 characters breath under water forever?

When playing dbz Budakai 3, I am able to stay under water for as long as I want. I find it useful, but I am confused. All of the characters are able to stay under forever,no matter what size they are.

dragon-ball

Hakase

6:44 PM

@JNat huh?

oh that's to post multiline messages

there's a limit on message length if it's not multiline

500 chars iirc

after that it multilines by adding Environment.Newline + "."

JNat

Hakase

I thought you meant some tag was misnamed :p

JNat

7:47 PM

CR replied to my FB messages again, about an hour ago. There may be an incoming answer to your questions, @Hakase

Or maybe not

Hakase

8:08 PM

we'll see

does anyone with access to documentation.se beta know if it's worth looking at in the current state, or is it too unorganized to be useful yet?

all mods should have access to all betas but idk how many here know teh codez to tell

Mad's not responding

@Tosh are you responding?

Quill's responding :p

Chinatsu is responding!

JNat

@Hakase It's worth looking at

Hakase

I'll apply for an invitation then

oh shit I can't

it's not public

area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/lookup/… page not found

pff >.>

Quill

that's not where you apply

also docs beta is cool, the design/s are awesome

Hakase

docs-beta.stackexchange.com/users/login?ssrc=beta

says To log in, you must have commited to the Area 51 site proposal and received the invitation email. Click the invitation link in the email to log in!

guess I haven't done any of that!

Quill

that's just a generic site header on non-public sites

Hakase

8:18 PM

the link it gives doesn't lead to the proposal

usually it does

well, I can't just show up uninvited

gotta have some good manners

Quill

it's not a standard proposal, there was a signup form on the MSO post but it's been striked out

2707

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It’s been 7 years and 10,000,000+ Questions since Stack Overflow was launched. The amount of good that has been done for the field - all the developers helped, all the person-hours saved, all the beginners who grew into professionals - is hard to overstate. I cannot express how proud I am of what...

discussion documentation

Hakase

oh shit I thought I applied to that

Quill

they don't always add you instantly.... took like 3 months for mine and I think it was because I bugged a CM <_<

Hakase

history's being made without me!

I'll make my own then >.>

muahahaha

no big deal, it's probably still too early to "learn how to code well" with it

I'm more interested in video game aspect, but I don't think that will be its focus

Quill

there was a wave that went out yesterday, so you might be a late addition on that wave

I remember the wave in which I got mine, I got it like 24 hours after everyone else

Oh hey, Watch Dogs 2

Hakase

8:26 PM

ya also mirror's edge 2

ardaozkal

@Quill that looks pretty neat

@Hakase out

@Quill trailer sucks

Hakase

I didn't enjoy the first, I'm not gonna try the second

not enough freedom in this freedom-based game

ardaozkal

WD? or Mirrors edge?

Hakase

ME

ardaozkal

I didn't play ME but it doesn't look like it is worth the price

Hakase

8:28 PM

right, there's more freedom in watch dogs or assassin's creed

something crazy with the prices this time around

a lot of games on steam are selling for way more than competition

ardaozkal

Its an EA game. Crazy prices are expected

Quill

I liked Watch Dogs, it was one of the few games I didn't feel bad about just "exploring"

ardaozkal

WD's online interactions thingy was fun

I just added it back to my summer list

I didn't finish it yet :(

Taisho

3

Chinatsu-creepy-chan

yo

Armin

8:49 PM

i'm back

babymetal is a great band live

although the concert was a bit on the short side (ca 1h for 38 euros)

the solos of the band were great

the singers are good, but the main one has a few problems in her solo parts, especially with higher notes.

but great band and you should go see them if you like jpop or metal or both. especially if they have an opening act

ardaozkal

@Chinatsu-creepy-chan yo

Frosteeze

9:32 PM

oy

Yuuki

9:42 PM

@ton.yeung I remember you mentioning them awhile ago, just scheduled an interview with HCSS for tomorrow.

Frosteeze

9:55 PM

lol i just looked up HCSS

they really hate smokers

Yuuki

Man and I was this close to picking up a cigar habit.

Toshinou Kyouko

@Armin :o !

@Hakase no

@Hakase idk what dis is

Hakase

10:23 PM

nevermind

I thought I could just waltz in, but I gotta sneak in and I don't wanna do that

Sakamoto

11:40 PM

0

Q: How to draw Manga/Anime?

i'm learning to draw manga/anime but is so dificult!! someone can pass me a link of a good tutorial for beginners or teach me? Style: Shounen Problem: drawing anatomy. thanks!!

manga-production

ardaozkal

11:54 PM

night o/

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