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JSBᾶngs

9:00 PM

this is a very gay chat room

why can't i vote to delete questions, again?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

no u r

@JSBᾶngs You can after two days.

JSBᾶngs

i shouldn't have to wait two days to delete that gay crap

Matt Эллен

Name buddies!

can we close this as, um, unconstructive?

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Q: Too, two, and to

Which to/too/two do you use when you are writing, "there are three ways to spell two/too/to in the English language?" My girlfriend has a BS in English and was unable to answer this so I was wondering if you guys had any idea.

spelling

MetaEd

@MattЭллен The "proper" box adds matches to words which are proper names. That makes a difference when you use the American English dictionary, which has proper names in it.

Matt Эллен

Oh! thanks :)

MetaEd

9:11 PM

There should be a dictionary selection popup. Also there is the option to limit the number of matches to 10, 20, 30, 40, or blank (unlimited).

Matt Эллен

unlimited! I shall have to find the best word for that :D

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен I think Kosmo's answer makes that question constructive, in that it clarifies a major misconception some people have.

MetaEd

For performance reasons, you can get unlimited results, but you are limited to, I believe it is 9-letter words to start from. That's something I want to fix but haven't worked on.

kiamlaluno

@JSBᾶngs The question needs to be first closed. 20k users don't need to wait two days for voting to delete.

> Voting to delete questions immediately after they are closed (even if they are new)

Matt Эллен

@MrShinyandNew安宇 as you wish

user19161

9:19 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 Gay like Reg Dwight!

user19161

@kiamlaluno It would be better if they can vote to delete even without the question being closed.

kiamlaluno

@WillHunting I don't see any reason.

user19161

0

Q: What does "octopus" mean in this scientific context?

This is captured from a scientific paper on web data extraction and management. What does "octopus" mean in the subtitle?

meaning-in-context

JSBᾶngs

@WillHunting too localized

Matt Эллен

how on earth are we meant to answer that?

user19161

9:26 PM

@MattЭллен Well, there are many geeks here like you.

Matt Эллен

but we don't even know the title of the paper

surely he can answer it by reading the paper?

terrible question is terrible

user19161

@MattЭллен I think he is probably another nutcase.

Kitḫ

I can't believe I wasted five hours reading a crappy trashy romance, and there was only one less-than-inspired romantic interlude in it.

Matt Эллен

:(

Kitḫ

And the story was not great either.

Matt Эллен

9:29 PM

you are disappoint

Kitḫ

And the writing was not great.

I am disappoint

user19161

@Kitḫ Then you need to read Twilight.

Kitḫ

Hmm.

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ you need to sue the author to get your time back.

Kitḫ

Crappy teen romance does not actually sound more appealing.

Matt Эллен

9:30 PM

:D

Kitḫ

@MattЭллен Maybe, except the book was free. Now I understand why.

Matt Эллен

my favourite romance novel is So Long and Thanks For All The Fish

Kitḫ

Haha

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ ah, yes. You got what you paid for. Sadly

Kitḫ

I was so confused there for a minute.

user19161

9:31 PM

Now you know why I stopped reading fiction long long ago.

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ yeah, NoFX and Douglas Adams get mixed up in my head

Kitḫ

Lots of fiction is good.

user19161

No, movie is good.

Kitḫ

Movies mostly are not good.

Not enough brain action. Too predictable.

Matt Эллен

Damn you Michael Bay! Why did you make Transformers 3?

Kitḫ

9:33 PM

It's kind of like a prayer wheel. You've got to keep the money in motion somehow.

Matt Эллен

I suppose so

Kitḫ

Otherwise, people might forget that they need fluff.

They might start paying attention to important stuff.

user19161

@MattЭллен The girl did not act in it, sad.

Kitḫ

Anyway, ham and bunny pasta for dinner! Yay!

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting glad! Megan Fox gets a +1 from me for opting out

Kitḫ

9:34 PM

Maybe peas too.

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ good lord! then where would the world be?

user19161

@MattЭллен Why? You hate her?

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ scrummy

JSBᾶngs

@Kitḫ delicious

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting quite the opposite. The film is terrible. her being in it would have meant she approved of a terrible film

kiamlaluno

9:35 PM

(I hope bunny doesn't stay for rabbit.)

Kitḫ

@MattЭллен It's really remarkable to consider, innit? I mean, think what sort of capacity we'd have if spam were removed from the internet.

JSBᾶngs

you know, sometimes a box of macaroni and cheese is all that you want for dinner

Kitḫ

@kiamlaluno Well, yes.

JSBᾶngs

speaking of which, my second cheese is currently drying at home

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ Gods! I know, I thought about that one day and got a bit angry

Kitḫ

9:36 PM

@JSBᾶngs What kind?

JSBᾶngs

@Kitḫ cheddar

kiamlaluno

I have never heard of somebody eating rabbit, in USA.

JSBᾶngs

my first is also a cheddar

after this i think i'll try a gouda

and i may make a mozarella tonight

Kitḫ

Love cheddar.

kiamlaluno

I thought it was just people with Italian roots, to eat it.

Kitḫ

9:37 PM

And Mozz. Gouda meh.

JSBᾶngs

you've probably never had good gouda

Kitḫ

@kiamlaluno Well, I'm not eating rabbit, but lots of people do, especially rural folk.

Matt Эллен

@kiamlaluno well, lots of people died in Canada, because they only ate rabbit, and it doesn't have enough nutrients to sustain a person

This was a long time ago, when Canada was just starting out

JSBᾶngs

i thought that gouda was bland and tasteless until i had some good gouda made my by cheesemaking instructor

kiamlaluno

@MattЭллен Uh? Really?

Matt Эллен

9:38 PM

@kiamlaluno so I was told

JSBᾶngs

@MattЭллен wow. i learned something today

Kitḫ

Annie's Homegrown

Annie's Homegrown is a Berkeley, California-based maker of natural and/or organic pastas, meals and snacks. The company, founded in Hampton, CT, is perhaps best known for its macaroni and cheese product line, which comes in shell form and bunny rabbit shapes, and is the second best selling macaroni and cheese in the United States. Their mascot is a rabbit named Bernie, who appears in the seal of approval called the "Rabbit of Approval". The company also produces Annie's Naturals, which consists of condiments, dressings, and barbeque sauces. The majority of stock of Annie's is owned by ...

JSBᾶngs

note to self: don't try to subsist entirely on rabbit

user19161

@MattЭллен Anyway I did not watch 3, only 1 and 2. I am a fan of Shia though.

Matt Эллен

:D

kiamlaluno

9:38 PM

That is why the world is so wrong. Canadian people who eat rabbit.

user19161

I ate frog before.

JSBᾶngs

@WillHunting me too! i think you and me are the only ones

MetaEd

Careful. There's an adder in cheddar.

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting A friends of mine is also a fan. She likes his beard

JSBᾶngs

@kiamlaluno who are you to talk? when i was in italy, we got rabbit baby food for our kid

Kitḫ

9:38 PM

We don't call it mac and cheese, because 1. it's not macaroni, and 2. my son insists that he doesn't like cheese.

user19161

@JSBᾶngs I remember. That was unexpected.

MetaEd

@Kitḫ We love the bunny crackers and the mac and chee.

JSBᾶngs

also we got ostrich and horse baby food. man, italy has the weirdest baby food

Kitḫ

What do you think baby buntings are made out of?

user19161

@MattЭллен I think he looks cute.

JSBᾶngs

9:39 PM

@Kitḫ Shia LeBeouf?

Kitḫ

@JSBᾶngs lol

Matt Эллен

I find him annoying in films. I suppose he is moderately good looking

user19161

@MattЭллен Clearly not as much as you.

Kitḫ

@MattЭллен Ditto.

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting you're too kind

Kitḫ

9:40 PM

@WillHunting Matt is not at all annoying in films.

kiamlaluno

@JSBᾶngs In Italy, it is much common to eat those things. You will not find horse salami, in USA.

Matt Эллен

lol

JSBᾶngs

@kiamlaluno right, most americans are freaked out by the idea of eating horses

i've had horse salami. it wasn't notably different from regular salami

Kitḫ

It makes me a little ill just thinking about it.

kiamlaluno

@JSBᾶngs What is about donkey meat?

JSBᾶngs

9:41 PM

@kiamlaluno i don't think i've had donkey

Kitḫ

swoons

JSBᾶngs

though who knows, maybe my horse salami was adulterated with donkey

Matt Эллен

catches kit

kiamlaluno

In the case you wonder, that is what stracotto d'asino is.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

no donkey salami in this chat

Kitḫ

9:42 PM

Thanks, @Matt.

Matt Эллен

put smelling salts under kit's nose

Kitḫ

gags

JSBᾶngs

well, if there's no donkey salami, then i'm leaving

i'm also leaving b/c it's time for me to go home

Matt Эллен

No probs :)

kiamlaluno

@RegDwightѬſ道 Oh FCOL! It's horse salami, not donkey salami!

JSBᾶngs

9:42 PM

have fun, y'all

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ oop! sorry!

user19161

I think we should only have fish or chicken.

Kitḫ

@JSBᾶngs Night!

Matt Эллен

cya @JSBngs

Kitḫ

I gotta go in a bit too. Bunnies don't cook themselves, you know!

But I think I'll stay and complain just a little longer.

Snowstorm today.

Matt Эллен

9:44 PM

oh no!

kiamlaluno

Bunnies don't fall in the dish alone, too.

Kitḫ

Snow day and not a work day for me anyway. pout

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ did you get to stay home?

bummer

Kitḫ

Yeah. Second time in three months that work has been cancelled on a day that I wasn't working anyway.

But, at least we get administrative holidays.

I mean, really, that's a huge perk.

Unfortunately, it doesn't qualify for comp time.

So I can't take a snow day on another day instead.

sigh

Matt Эллен

yeah. My teacher friend likes them too

@Kitḫ sigh better luck next time!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:47 PM

Yo @Kit, can you spare a bar?

user19161

@MattЭллен I have been using your Good thinking in the other rooms.

Kitḫ

@RegDwightѬſ道 Um. I'll do what I can before the boys get home.

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 Kit Kat bar?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Kewl.

Matt Эллен

@WillHunting glad to hear my little mind symbiote is spreading

Kitḫ

9:48 PM

@RegDwightѬſ道 Mostly fear decks? Or was I just unlucky on the first one?

user19161

-3

Q: Step 1 or step1 when referring to a step?

When referring to a step, which one would be more correct between "see step 1" versus "see step1"?

nouns

user19161

Cheese and rice.

MetaEd

Cheese. Eech.

Kitḫ

hiss

MetaEd

There's an ocarina in macaroni.

Kitḫ

9:57 PM

There's a seche in cheese.

OK. Gotta go, later!

MetaEd

Seche?

Not in my dictionary ... what dictionary do I need?

Matt Эллен

the Kitionary

MetaEd

@MattЭллен A dictionary's place is in the Kition

Matt Эллен

Oh, Matt! I just read your blog article

Oh did you?
Yeah, it was great!
Why thanks :)

@MetaEd Well, how else are we to know what eggs are for?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Kitḫ Ohai. I dunno. I used to run into wall stalls. But my last five battles were against Fear as well.

user19161

10:06 PM

@MattЭллен What is this monologue about? And it is your bedtime.

Matt Эллен

about the blog article I wrote

or what is the blog article about?

it's about a book I read

user19161

@MattЭллен It was a rhetorical question used as a prelude to some advice.

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 Sometimes the fear of fear is worse than fear itself.

user19161

@MetaEd OED aka online EL&U dictionary.

MetaEd

Unfortunately I do not have their wordlist. That would be nice ...

RegDwight Ѭſ道

10:12 PM

Bah, and now that guy tries to support his point by quoting papers that do not support his point.

-4

Q: Step 1 or step1 when referring to a step?

When referring to a step, which one would be more correct between "see step 1" versus "see step1"?

nouns

See the comments.

I actually went and counted them.

MetaEd

"Seche" is not in the American wordlist or the Yet Another Word List.

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 OMG. Anyway I can understand why some authors might use step1 eg programming.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Of course. You can also name a function 1ySD632. Which is the reason why naming functions is off-topic.

simchona

@reg don't feed the trolls

Especially ones who don't listen. Like hhh. And this guy.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

0

Q: Difference between 'into' and 'in to'

What is the difference between 'into' and 'in to', and what are some correct/incorrect common usages?

differences

14

Q: When should "into" be used rather than "in to," and vice versa?

"Into" (one word) and "in to" (two words) are frequently confused. In what situations should the former be used? The latter?

grammar

Matt Эллен

10:25 PM

Bed time. night all!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

CU

RegDwight Ѭſ道

10:38 PM

Aaaand I'm out as well.

simchona

10:57 PM

-6

Q: Harassment and trolling in a chat room

After an annoying discussion in chat I decided that I would delete my account. Please do that for me.

discussion chat moderation

Mahnax

@simchona That saddens me.

simchona

@Mahnax I guess it's hard to comment without reading the chat log. But a mod can't know someone's medical history

Mahnax

@simchona A mod can't know that, nor can they be expected to know it.

simchona

@Mahnax and so I think the user overreacted. But I don't know if the mod was truly offensive because I can't read it

Mahnax

@simchona Yeah, maybe someone will say what happened, exactly.

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