Root Access

Ben N

00:00

As opposed to at the end of the UTC day

oldmud0

Boom.

Michael Frank

Reading an article about the Queen... Best comment of the bunch:

> can you imagine the amount of times banknotes with her face on them have been in a strippers g string

Journeyman Geek

iirc it takes a while

CMDEmu

many times indeed

Ben N

@JourneymanGeek It happened pretty quick for me today

CMDEmu

00:00

all UK bank notes contain traces of cocaine

as in used notes

Bob

Huh. Last minute upvote o.O

If that was someone here, thanks :P

CMDEmu

it was me

Bob

> 23:59

o.O

oldmud0

00:17

actually it was me

CMDEmu

it was me

oldmud0

help!!!!! my lpto can tturnon!!!1

0

Q: Laptop fails to power on

I use an hp Pavillion machine.it shutdown on itself when I try to power it on.... At first I used to press the power button multiple times before it will power on but now it is not responding. Please help me out

windows-8

CMDEmu

try plugging it in

:DDD

you gotta charge the battery

or use AC if has its own power supply

as in directly use AC

bwDraco

01:35

17

Q: Firefox writes megabytes of data per minute to disk, why?

iotop -a (accumulated I/O) on Linux shows after about 10 min. of browsing Internet: Total DISK READ: 0.00 B/s | Total DISK WRITE: 0.00 B/s TID PRIO USER DISK READ DISK WRITE> SWAPIN IO COMMAND 17330 be/4 wojdyr 1540.00 K 38.48 M 0.0...

firefox hard-drive ssd

So this is why Firefox is slamming 20+ GB of writes per day...

Journeyman Geek

hm

pcworld.com/article/3060273/components-processors/…

that's interesting

I didn't realise AMD could sublicence x86 designs, and that sort of technology transfer might give them a few advantages in the chinese market

bwDraco

Changed interval from every 15 seconds to two minutes.

That will bring the I/O under control.

This is because I have an unprecedented 44 tabs open right now, which is making the session restore data large.

Jan 11 '15 at 23:17, by DragonLord

I usually have about 20 tabs open and memory usage is on the order of 500-800MB

Jan 11 '15 at 23:19, by DragonLord

The extreme case for me is about 40-50 tabs and that's unusual

I know Bob is even crazier with the tabs but this is not typical for me.

Ongoing research project is forcing me to keep lots of tabs open.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco There's a tab suspension plugin that I've found useful. At least for Chromium.

bwDraco

Firefox, not Chrome.

Michael Frank

01:51

@FaheemMitha Chrome also unloads tabs on it's own.

Faheem Mitha

@bwDraco I imagine there are similar things for Firefox.

Chromium leaks memory a lot, I think. Which quickly makes it unusable even with a modest number of tabs.

@MichaelFrank It does? I hadn't noticed.

Bob

@bwDraco "unprecedented"

ahem

bwDraco

For me, it is.

CMDEmu

02:07

HI

Ben N

@FaheemMitha It started doing that a couple updates ago, when there's memory pressure

Before that, it was a chrome://flags setting

Journeyman Geek

03:15

Michael Frank

03:32

!!zalgo Looks like a fun book!

ChatBot John Cavil

Server error (status 500) occured (message probably too long)

Michael Frank

o_O

bwDraco

04:23

!!/zalgo foobar

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco f̴̢̄̈́͛͞͏҉͇̪͈̰͔oͭͫͪ̽̈́̔҉̀͏̲̤ǫͨ͆͟͝͏̥b̛̜̑ͮͬͩ͆ͣa͎̤̻͎̼̟ͬ̑̈͗̽̓͋͝r̓̐̊͑̄̈͝

bwDraco

!!/zalgo foobarfoobarfoobar

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco f̢̨̛̜̣̙͚͇͖̞̜͔͉̫͊͛̀͂͒ͨ͐̋̀͢ͅo̢͂͛ͪ̋̄̍̓ͩ̃̿̐҉̸҉̞̰̙̤͎͕͇ͅơ̵̢͔̩̺͕͚ͪ͂̈̋̓̒ͦ́͂ͪ̎̔̅͑̃̀̚b̔ͩ̈‌̶͉͉̺̘͇̝͙̣̱̫͕̭͍̲͔̺̹̪̤̃̾ͩͫa̤̥͔̥̞̰͍̹̞͍̪̟̪͕̳̙̞̾̃ͣ̏̓ͣ͊̈́͗ͧ̀r̷̷̵̖͙̞͍͓̹̭̣̫̩̻͓̝̘̈̇̑͒̿ͫ̕̕fͯ‌̧̘̻͓̘̲͖͇̜̗̩̺̱̼̠̫ͩ̈̈̒ͫ͊̄̄̐ͦ̂̓̔͊̃ͣ͟͡ö̴͖͎̟͚̹͖̞͂ͫ͢͜o̶̥͈̥͓̭̩̹̾̈́̓ͣ͆̓͌̏ͫ̌̔̎͗ͮ̏͘b̂ͣͦͨ̾̓ͫ‌̸̷͖̰̜̗͉̠̹̥̺͈̞̰̱̘̃̾̃͢͝a̴̡͇̭̭̤̳̞͙̫͔̺̜̠̙̠̤͂͐ͨ̿͌̈͌̿̑̉̌ͤ̈ͤ̄͊́́̚r̷̢̫͙̣̞̞̠͚̘̃̋͌̄͌͗ͪ̏̚͢͠͞‌f͒͋̍͌͛҉̡͇̭̺̳̤̱͔͖̫̮͈͓͢͝o̭̮̗̱̱͕̗͙̫̰̘͚̖̳̫̼̮ͣ̉̑ͪ͂͒̈́͆̂̑͑̔̚̕͟͜͡o̴͂̊̋ͨ̇ͧ̈́̂̂́͗ͬ͑͏̧̛̙͎͎̤̣͜‌̭̙̫b͗͐̈́ͧ͂ͤͦ̎ͬ͏̢͓̫͓͕̟͈̯̙̼̦̮a̴̻̰̥͈͉͓ͩͦ͑͂ͯ̿̈͒ͤͬ͗͌̀̚r̨̂ͧ̄͆̉͌ͥ̈́̎̆͐ͨ̌̉͒̓̄͟͟͠҉͔̫̺̼

bwDraco

!!/zalgo foobarfoobarfoobarfoobar

ChatBot John Cavil

Server error (status 500) occured (message probably too long)

bwDraco

04:28

!!/google f̢̨̛̜̣̙͚͇͖̞̜͔͉̫͊͛̀͂͒ͨ͐̋̀͢ͅo̢͂͛ͪ̋̄̍̓ͩ̃̿̐҉̸҉̞̰̙̤͎͕͇ͅơ̵̢͔̩̺͕͚ͪ͂̈̋̓̒ͦ́͂ͪ̎̔̅͑̃̀̚b̔ͩ̈‌‌̶͉͉̺̘͇̝͙̣̱̫͕̭͍̲͔̺̹̪̤̃̾ͩͫa̤̥͔̥̞̰͍̹̞͍̪̟̪͕̳̙̞̾̃ͣ̏̓ͣ͊̈́͗ͧ̀r̷̷̵̖͙̞͍͓̹̭̣̫̩̻͓̝̘̈̇̑͒̿ͫ̕̕‌fͯ‌̧̘̻͓̘̲͖͇̜̗̩̺̱̼̠̫ͩ̈̈̒ͫ͊̄̄̐ͦ̂̓̔͊̃ͣ͟͡ö̴͖͎̟͚̹͖̞͂ͫ͢͜o̶̥͈̥͓̭̩̹̾̈́̓ͣ͆̓͌̏ͫ̌̔̎͗ͮ̏͘b̂ͣͦ‌ͨ̾̓ͫ‌̸̷͖̰̜̗͉̠̹̥̺͈̞̰̱̘̃̾̃͢͝a̴̡͇̭̭̤̳̞͙̫͔̺̜̠̙̠̤͂͐ͨ̿͌̈͌̿̑̉̌ͤ̈ͤ̄͊́́̚r̷̢̫͙̃̋͌̄͌͗ͪ̏̚͢͠͞‌̣̞̞̠͚̘‌f͒͋̍͌͛҉̡͇̭̺̳̤̱͔͖̫̮͈͓͢͝o̭̮̗̱̱͕̗͙̫̰̘͚̖̳̫̼̮ͣ̉̑ͪ͂͒̈́͆̂̑͑̔̚̕͟͜͡o̴͂̊̋ͨ̇ͧ̈́̂̂́͗ͬ͑͏‌̧̛̙͎͎̤̣͜‌̭̙̫b͗͐̈́ͧ͂ͤͦ̎ͬ͏̢͓̫͓͕̟͈̯̙̼̦̮a̴̻̰̥͈͉͓ͩͦ͑͂ͯ̿̈͒ͤͬ͗͌̀̚r̨̂ͧ̄͆̉͌ͥ̈́̎̆͐ͨ̌̉͒̓̄͟͟͠҉‌͔̫̺̼

Hello?

!!/ping

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco pong

allquixotic

04:39

i3s.unice.fr/~jplozi/wastedcores/files/extended_talk.pdf

HackToHell

We breed too much

bwDraco

@allquixotic Any new code in mainline Linux that addresses this issue?

Maybe we can look into replacing noitsbecky with dragons in the description? :p

CMDEmu

04:57

what yous doing up so late

bwDraco

I'm a creature of the night :)

No, seriously, I'm a night owl. My usual bedtime is around 4 AM.

CMDEmu

its 6 am here

bwDraco

It's 1 AM here in New York.

CMDEmu

I was bored so I want for a walk and just returned

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco but that's less confusing to newbies. ;p

CMDEmu

05:08

theres so much stuff in the way to just get something done its rediculous

nothing is straightforward, sometimes I drift off doing something completley different without even realizing it

is it just me or

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek It isn't "Becky" any more.

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

3.7k 1 8 27

networking windows windows-7 hard-drive wireless-networking windows-10 ssd

Journeyman Geek

I'm aware of that

CMDEmu

maybe I should just move onto something else thats less hard, but thats just piling the hard parts up

I thought it would make more sense to start one thing, finish it then move on, as leaving too many half finished parts would be confusing

but it doesnt work that way in this case

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'm tempted to add radioactive (as in, Imagine Dragons) :P

CMDEmu

where can I ask about it

ive asked in math and superuser

Bob

05:21

Oh hey it's still a site :P

CMDEmu

ill try this

I spent a week doing one drawing, but had to scrap it

I did another 4 but they had the same problem really so had to scrap them too

bbs

Tom Wijsman

Just make sure you build muscle meanwhile...

superuser.com/questions/1068387/…

bwDraco

Already gone.

Tom Wijsman

Oh great, post it right after community deletion. <3

Bob

05:59

O_O

Today is a good day, apparently.

@JourneymanGeek Just got two calls, one right after the other.

Journeyman Geek

oh?

Bob

First one: MS sorted out the contract/access IDs!

Journeyman Geek

Oh!

Bob

I was actually about ot call them again after almost two weeks of radio silence :P

Second one: Telstra managed to unlink the accounts.

Journeyman Geek

The telstra one was an epic fuckup

Bob

06:01

Also, I can keep the $30 recharge that was mistakenly billed to the other guy and they'll just credit him.

@JourneymanGeek You don't say.

His credit card was still in my saved payment methods...

(of course, I told them about that too and removed it ... I just want this mess sorted out)

Journeyman Geek

natch

Bob

That was simultaneously scary and very very confusing.

Seeing someone else's name on my account page... and details O_O

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

tbh, it makes me rather concerned about the security of their systems

definitely sticking to paypal.

Journeyman Geek

heh. I do internet banking manually for my current phone company, with a paper receipt as a reminder.

Switching phone companies when myrepublic does phone tho

Bob

06:05

@JourneymanGeek eh... I don't like doing bank transfers like that

too easy to mess up, on either end

also, you have to wait -_-

bpay would be a bit better

Journeyman Geek

@Bob there's a specific options for bills here

Bob

card ... is not very secure

Journeyman Geek

and its mostly instant

Bob

paypal is good.

Journeyman Geek

oh, not card

Bob

06:06

@JourneymanGeek ah.

bpay is our national bill option but it's not instant :P

Journeyman Geek

Ours is giro, which is run by nets

and its essentially instant

Bob

ah

Journeyman Geek

and my ~~ISP~~ phone company's fine if you're a month late

My dad occationally loses my bill or I forget ;p

CMDEmu

I cant think straight. my head is just full of 'noise'

Journeyman Geek

shhh

Bob

06:12

Huh. $140 for a Mi4, and it's officially supported by Windows 10

Interesting.

Journeyman Geek

0_0

"officially supported by windows 10" whaaaat?

Bob

Snapdragon 801, too.

@JourneymanGeek Yea.

Journeyman Geek

Means you can swap in a windows 10 rom?

Bob

Well, the insider preview.

@JourneymanGeek Yup!

CMDEmu

maybe if I run into a door or a wall it will go away

Bob

06:13

@JourneymanGeek windowscentral.com/hands-windows-10-mobile-powered-xiaomi-mi4

Journeyman Geek

I'd be tempted if I wanted a windows phone

xiomi's hardware is nice

Bob

> The ROM has been in testing for a while now but initially it was limited to the Chinese market only. This changed recently with the public release of a global ROM available to anyone who owns a Mi4. Or rather, almost anyone who owns a Mi4. The big caveat here is that the Windows 10 ROM is only available to the LTE version of the Mi4, which means the HSPA only model solid in places like India (referred to as the Mi4w by many) is not currently supported.

Journeyman Geek

their software is underwhelming

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I am tempted :P

bwDraco

SD801 is really old.

Bob

06:14

@bwDraco It's perfectly fine.

Look, it's $140.

Journeyman Geek

(my current "hmm, looks interesting" phone is a HTC 10...)

CMDEmu

my phone is bent off hitting it

its a htc m8

Bob

You're not getting an 808 or 810 in a $140 phone.

@JourneymanGeek I've been looking at getting CyanogenMod onto one but WP10 is great too.

bwDraco

Nexus or nothing.

Bob

Heh.

I like the idea of Nexus but the hardware doesn't do it for me.

Actually, to be perfectly honest, neither does the software. There's little conveniences from TouchWiz and LG UI that I miss even in CyanogenMod.

HTC seems to be pulling a Nexus-y maneuver with freely-unlocked bootloaders, though.

And of course OnePlus is pretty open.

In those cases, well, Nexus' biggest advantage is gone.

And you're left being held back by what Google thinks is best. (hardware-wise)

CMDEmu

06:28

what the google modular phone thing

Bob

That one never got off the ground.

CMDEmu

I dont see how a modular phone is a good idea

when is somebody gonna make large scale pure graphine is what I wanna know

Bob

Neither do I, tbh.

It's an interesting concept.

But the nature of phones is that every part is tightly integrated.

Swappable parts in such a small form factor ends up being very complex.

CMDEmu

it is interesting.

but heh

Bob

And then what? You swap out... the motherboard? That includes the permanent CPU.

Or is the CPU a separate module? Does that mean the interface can never change?

Do you invent some kind of reusable socket? But... you want next-gen and now you need a new board anyway.

Desktop suffers from a similar problem but not the disadvantage of there being pretty much no space to work with.

CMDEmu

06:31

yea

Bob

Also a lot more variety in desktop.

Maybe you want to upgrade to a motherboard with some specific feature. Or more PCIe slots. There's plenty to choose from (now).

CMDEmu

and a desktop can do hard work, a phone can only do lightweight stuff

Bob

Ara doesn't have that kind of ecosystem... and will take a very long time to build one up, if ever.

CMDEmu

graphics rendering, etc

Bob

@CMDEmu Hm... line's kinda grey now. Phones can do a fair bit of 'hard work', but it's still not economical to use one for number crunching.

CMDEmu

06:33

but on such a small screen?

thats the biggest problem with phones

as good as the MCU is the screen is too small

Journeyman Geek

@Bob i.imgur.com/nJoi3IB.jpg

Iterated again :)

Bob

@CMDEmu Complex graphics rendering can be required even on small screens :P

CMDEmu

but how do you do it

Bob

My phone also has a higher resolution than my desktop...

CMDEmu

you cant just put autoCAD on a phone

or mplab/matlab

Bob

06:35

@JourneymanGeek lol, I don't even recognise the parts anymore.

@CMDEmu google.com.au/…

:P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob the white clip was part of the last build

the blue part is a phone/tripod holder

CMDEmu

lol I would never use this app

touch screens are about as accurate as doing surgery with a hammer

Bob

It's not economical to use phones for massive render jobs, but there's no technical reason you can't.

Journeyman Geek

The little black shelf is a piece of precut MDF fixed with mounting tape

Bob

Oh, you mean actually drawing on the phone?

CMDEmu

06:37

ahem ^

Bob

Yea that's gonna be a problem.

CMDEmu

typing, drawing, navigating web

they all have the same problem

Bob

@JourneymanGeek No epoxy? :P

Or that weird off-white gunk?

Journeyman Geek

No

CMDEmu

it would take around 4 hours of frustration just to draw a few lines

I would rather suck eggs

Journeyman Geek

06:38

naw

I didn't have any holes or broken parts to fix

Bob

lol

CMDEmu

06:51

this is just evil

$user image$

and appears in several real life problems not just this puzzle

imagine giving somebody this but not telling them its impossible

theyd drive themselves insane trying to solve it

this is why im insane

bbs

tereško

mornin

CMDEmu

.

Journeyman Geek

07:14

hai

Bob

hullo

mr enigma

Im going to sleep now

I hope I never wake up

ta ta

Faheem Mitha

07:45

@BenN I see. Which release was that?

Anmol Raghuvanshi Version 2.0

08:06

mornin

Journeyman Geek

10:49

theverge.com/2016/4/22/11486256/drone-collision-uk-plastic-bag

._.

hmm

this is odd

Oliver Salzburg

11:10

@mrenigma imgur.com/gallery/LqdGR

Guitar Shoe Dave

12:59

!!/zalgo morning everybody

ChatBot John Cavil

@GuitarShoeDave m̷̨͉͕͙̞͍̼͙̪̗͙͎͇̹̳͕ͤ̿̈̇ͣ̓̐͜͞͠o͂ͧ͛ͦͫ͆ͯͩ͂҉̴̢̡̝̥̱̥̝̣̰̣r̢̢̢̲̭͉̗̳̖̘̝͖͊ͪ̈́̅͆ͪ̒̋ͬ̃̓͋̐̚̚͝͝‌̜̲̝̹̖̲̘̟n͚̮̖̳̥͉̟̳̪̙̭̥͖̜̼͉͈ͮͥͬ̄̆̃̎̽ͨ̏̽͜͟͡į̶̶̸̟͈̤̞̺̦̤͚̤͕̙̠̘̦̋̐̈́̂͆̆̎̊ͤ͆n͂̔̉̌͆ͪ̅͋̔̎̽‌̞̯̝̖͙͔͇̭͈̞̦̻̜̘́ͧ͘͘g̸̴̨͌̑̍̔̔ͣ̔ͮ̍ͨͯ̐̈́ͬ̎̅ͪͫͥ͏͙͈̯̩̬̪ ̢̻̠͚̗̯̖̹̮̪͙̯͈̘̘̘̼̌͋̔̿́̀͜ẹ̶̴͎̪̻͕͍̲̹̘̥̟͌̀̓̌̓ͧ̂͋ͤ̚͝v̵̧̳͍̺̭͔͈̝̗̞͚̮̳̝͚͍̹̌ͫ̏̃ͧ̀̌̓̔̅́̀‌e̸̔̈̃ͣ̋̏͟͜͡҉͉͖̬̤͉̭r̵̡̧͕̦̤̼̥͓̯̱̟̝̭̭̪̮̩ͬ͛̈́̓̓ͨ͂ͫ͝y̴̛̼͎̺̎̋͐̒ͪ̐́́̎ͥ̇̇ͬ͆͡ͅͅb̶̛̆̌͂̐̎̋̍̕̕‌̻̩̤͓̻͔o̴̟̠͎̘̲̹̮͖͉̗̭̣̫͑͒ͭ̂̿̚͘͘͢͡d̡̛͕̗̹̲̟̗̗̤̉͌̒̾ͭ̍̑̔̾ͣͪ̍͗ͦ͑y̵̧ͯ̉̅̌̆ͦͥͫͬ͒̈̓̆̃̓͊ͨͮͫ́͏‌̼͙̟̠͜

djsmiley2k

yawn

djsmiley2k

13:14

@mrenigma it's not tho is it? :D

XKCD

13:26

Learning arcane bullshit from the 80s can break your computer, but if you're willing to wade through arcane bullshit from programmers in the 90s and 2000s, you can break everyone else's computers, too.

djsmiley2k

Sigh

trying to make a horrizonal nagios dash display into a vertical one

This sucks, because I don't know wtf I'm doing :D

Guitar Shoe Dave

If I used it, and knew how, id tell ya.

djsmiley2k

hehe thanks

I am doing stuff. It just looks horrific

But boss is now obcessed with a nagios dashboard, rather than fixing the real issues in this place :/

djsmiley2k

13:46

because a few of the other sites (whcih are far less busy) have nice shiny dashboards now

So now I need to insert a </tr><tr> into the cgi page

ewwww

Oh god it's worse

it's MULTIPLE TABLES.

tableception

God I hate html

Guitar Shoe Dave

14:37

me too!

however a lot of businesses these days prefer web applications.

so you're kinda forced to learn it.

screwed :(

@djsmiley2k: should show him zenoss imo. Since you're using nagios, it would be verrrrrrrrrrry easy to migrate to it..

:P

@djsmiley2k: You literrally have the machines already configured for it if you're using nagios anyway

sourceforge.net/projects/zenoss

djsmiley2k

yah

not even my bosses choice tbh

it' goes far far deeper lol

the joys of working for a giant faceless multinational

k weird the runas stuff isn't working for me :(

Guitar Shoe Dave

perhaps the account your wanting to use is locked out after x unsuccessful logins?

go get that shit unlocked, gogogo!!

djsmiley2k

nope

it pops up command prompt and closes before even asking for password

C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /savecred /user:DOMAIN\username "C:\Program Files\Quest Software\Quest One ActiveRoles\MMC\ActiveRoles Server.msc"

Looks ok to me :/

bertieb

14:59

Hey all

Does anyone have experience with wireshark? I'm trying to chase down a network problem that I thought was a hardware problem and I'm not sure how to interpret captures (or really, how to proceed- blind idiot troubleshooting here at present)

Like, basic stuff such as 'are ~6.5M packets (mostly ARP between two machines) in 47 seconds' unreasonable?

bertieb

15:24

Hmmm, seems some joker had placed a short section of cat5 into two of the ports

The only problem is that this is at my folks' house and I'm the only one who touches network stuff, and it's up in the loft

Basically, I intend to have some very stern words with that bertieb fellow when I see him

2

That's two days of bizarre network errors he's cost me

bwDraco

Why would an extra cable cause this?

djsmiley2k

16:03

a loop?

lets just link these network drop points together!

these cables fit, this must be right!

Dear nagios, a check that completes in 0.1s should not be timing out.

bertieb

16:18

@bwDraco I don't know, I don't know what past!bertieb thought either

I suspect the other end came out of a since-decomissioned machine

And then past-me plugged it into the switch, figuring "hey, loose end"

The switch is an Allied Telesis At-9924 or similar, so I think it could filter out the extra noise up to a point

Not sure why it broke down of late

But one of the two (redundant) power supplies has failed anyway

oldmud0

Apparently a TeamViewer connection consumes 40% cpu usage on my ancient windows 2003 monstrosity

And that's a 3.2 GHz dual core Xeon from 2004

Unfortunately Intel had not invented hyperthreading yet

djsmiley2k

D:

ouch

hmmmm nagios is being lame

i think because I can't ping these servers, lets fake it! :d

Rahul Basu

17:24

hola!

mr enigma

17:40

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how is XSS illigal, its not like youre doing anything unathorised

it IS authorised, just by the owners mistake

illegal*

I mean just pen testing itself, not say using it to steal details or something

Bob

Because the world doesn't work that way.

Lack of an explicit "no" does not imply "yes".

mr enigma

huh

Bob

The fact that it may be technically possible does not make it legally allowed or morally right.

mr enigma

oh, like killing a fly

Bob

...that has nothing to do with anything I just said.

mr enigma

17:49

legal but some say morally wrong

why is it illigal

Rahul Basu

what? Killing all organisms is illegal

im pretty sure of that

mr enigma

nope

Bob

@RahulBasu That's also incorrect...

Canadian Luke

@djsmiley2k Is nagios still the go-to for network and server monitoring?

Rahul Basu

@Bob really?

bwDraco

18:22

One of my pet peeves with Kinja sites is that they designate sponsored posts with "Powered by" rather than "Sponsored" or "Promoted". Then again, this little difference can be decisive as it can significantly impact CTR...

Mar 13 at 5:55, by bwDraco

Like it or not, online advertising is a competitive venture. If you don't follow your competitors in running high-impact ad units, you will eventually see lower and lower revenue (even if your number of unique impressions per day remains steady) as advertisers want to make a strong impact and therefore pay less and less for simple banner ads with time.

Mar 13 at 6:00, by bwDraco

People tend to just say they're annoyed by this practice, but fail to recognize that online publishers are operating in an environment that has never been more competitive, where merely staying in the business is becoming incredibly difficult.

In an online publishing environment that has never been more competitive, there quite literally is no other choice, unless you go down the paywall route (max X articles per week/month, then subscription required).

No, I don't like the practice, but alas, it's the only answer in today's utterly unforgiving economy.

Canadian Luke

18:46

!!define kinja site

bwDraco

!!/wiki Kinja

Kinja

Kinja is a free online news aggregator, launched in April 2004. == History == With the intention of making blogs more accessible to the public, Nick Denton of Gawker Media and Meg Hourihan of Pyra Labs created Kinja, which began as an investigation into the navigation of blogs. It was dubbed Kinja in October 2003. On February 11, 2013, Kinja 1.0 was launched on Jalopnik. Changes included an entire site and platform redesign, favoring a more Tumblr-esque design. Users received the ability to create their own blogs on Kinja, replacing the old profile system. Comments, replies, and posts all aggregate...

Includes Gizmodo, Kotaku, Lifehacker, io9, and Jalopnik.

Okay. Not Kinja sites. It's The Verge.

A few other Vox Media sites do the same with "Powered By" rather than "Sponsored".

Examples:

Why not "Sponsored by" or "Promoted"?

CTR. People are likely to ignore something something marked as "Sponsored" or "Promoted".

"Powered By" is much less likely to be interpreted by a layperson as a sponsored post, even with the company logo.

Every last dollar counts.

Today's economy leaves publishers with little choice if they're to stay afloat.

djsmiley2k

19:07

@bwDraco reALLY?

wow.

ppl be dumb.

Rahul Basu

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LIVE

djsmiley2k

@CanadianLuke i think it's still the most well known

@RahulBasu Any UFO's?

Bob

19:32

holy...

@allquixotic Turns out I can hit 60 Mbps if I select a telstra speed test server o.O

30 up

Ah, that only works on a specific phone with LTE-A :P

My main Vodafone-network SIM gets me ... O_O 70Mbps down, 7 Mbps up

Rahul Basu

LOL... my old school forgot to delete my email account (it's been over a year since I left).
I just cannot resist the temptation of sending some spam... ;P

Bob

On an entirely unrelated note... there goes my data usage for the month.

Rahul Basu

@Bob In India, you're lucky if you get 8 mbps down and 1 mbps up...

:/

Canadian Luke

I like spiceworks since it works with switches, Windows Mac and Linux servers

Bob

@RahulBasu Specifically talking LTE? Cause that sounds more like ADSL.

Rahul Basu

19:45

@Bob LTE is too expensive for most people here... It just arrived like 5 months ago...

Bob

That recent? Interesting.

Granted, it's only been a thing here for maybe two years in metro areas, and god forbid you want to actually use it for anything.

Want reasonable $/GB? Stick with landline. Which is still mostly ADSL2+, maybe HFC, or fibre as of the last year if you're lucky.

That said, the HSPA infrastructure is pretty good.

Rahul Basu

Fibre is just a dream here... :/

Most people here use landline too...

Bob

@RahulBasu Yea, I was promised it about four years ago with an ETA of two years ago. Now the new ETA is late 2017 and it'll be HFC, not FTTH... and who knows if they'll stay on schedule this time.

Especially since the next election is apparently in a couple months.

mr enigma

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