Anyone here have suggestions for PoE injectors? We've been using these with moderate success.. they tend to crap out when you run PoE on all 4 ports: planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=7485
If anyone is interested in a site for library science, or knows people that are, this proposal needs more people that have 200+ rep somewhere else in SE to launch
Last week, I spoke to a colleague who had some problems where he asked me for help but I didn't knew an immediate answer. I suggested to ask a question on ServerFault, but he denied, claiming this site to be "worse than usenet". I shrugged this off as his loss and as an exaggeration, but somehow ...
no one wants to appear "elitist" or "unwelcoming" but that's exactly how we're supposed to be. We are elite in the sense that our community is for professional systems administrators and anyone else isn't welcome. And we're unwelcoming for the same reason. If you meet the criteria to participate then welcome, if not, see ya.
Elitism and being unwelcoming to people outside of our field is built into Server Fault by design
This isn't meant to be generic tech support, and I don't think it should be like that. Sysadmins are meant to have a degree of ability and common sense. We all have crap days, but I think all questions should have a degree of research and clarity.
I may be relatively inexpereinced but I would still (try) to count myself as "professional". I can understand you can't run the next facebook on a 512MB VPS. I know that asking people how to get around your work's blocking system is a BAD IDEA as we maintain the systems. And I know that it's A Good Thing to even do some research before asking a question and providing the minimum of details.
tl;dr - I've worked hard to get where I am, young as I am, and it annoys me when someone posts a question completely out the range and scope of their understanding.
The thing that DOES make me step back and think is that I've asked some very basic questions on SO and have actually got some good answers
And I do feel for those who are shoved into a role that they don't want. Though to be fair, if they're reasonably professional then they can normally get the help they need from what I've seen
@tombull89 I'm the same way. I'd call my skills moderate at best with a decent amount of knowledge in some very specific corners of AD. The thing is, when I joined SF I knew way less than I do now.
I agree with Iain that we don't always need the pile on - and yes I'm aware that I've been guilty here and there. It only takes one person to say "no" and maybe another to say "sorry but Mr No is right..."
I really don't see a lot of piling on. It happens here and there, but its maybe 2 comments, tops which isn't unreasonable, especially considering we're all likely typing those comments at the same time.
To be fair, I guess people are always going to take away a negative impression if their question gets closed, no matter how nice we are about it and no matter how ludicrously off topic their post was
you may be right mark. And I'm comfortable with telling people to read the FAQ (though I'd prefer, "this is off topic, read the faq section on what we do and don't answer" to just "this is off topic"). I think its reasonable to expect people to put as much effort into asking a decent question as they expect the community here to put into answering it.
@pauska Ah, yeah... I probably should have been a bit nicer... I suppose posts like that are going to happen every few months when people start crossing the snark boundary.
My ESX 4.1 was running out of disk space so that I try to delete the snapshot, it seems that the snapshot was not remove completely so that the SBS2011STD-000005.vmdk still exist then I remove the current hard drive which using SBS2011STD-000005.vmdk and then create new disk by using existing vir...
Reminds me of one time one of our clients was trying to free up space on the SQL server and found a bunch of mdf files they thought were taking up too much space. =]
@MarkM Yeah, I've got that feeling too, though I know SysAdmin has declined a few that I disagreed with his decision. At least he manned up about it and defended his decision.
@pauska Although you have to have a balance. If you give high-rep, high-active users Mod powers they might spend more time "modding" then answering questions.
An interesting discussion just spun up on the SF chat, which clearly showed that some of us have strong feelings about how this site should be moderated - and who's job it is.
We have certain mods who are perhaps a bit fed up of literally drowning in mod flags every day. This made me believe tha...
Although, I suppose he might be using the 48-core chips at home. You know, the stuff that would have otherwise been thrown out as too old to be useful.
usually these test boxes just go pop either straight away or after a few days anyway, hardly glamourous - though this nice new hp storage box is jut lovely
Intel are facing one major problem with these many-core CPUs: They clearly have headroom to scale their dies and processes without any problems, but how are they going to address the fact that the little graphs in Windows task manager will be too thin to read properly?
@ChrisS just edited one of my m.sf answers and turned "Clusterfuck" into "Charlie-Foxtrot". Honestly, when I saw "Language" as the edit reason I got a little upset. Then I read the actual substitution and laughed out loud like a creepy serial killer to myself.
@pauska I don't think it's always a good idea to have your highest rep users be mods. Sometimes that's a contra-indication: that what they are good at is answering not moderating. It's a different skill set. You need people to mod who know the subject matter a bit of course, but it's mostly a people thing. You will hold your best answers back if you make them do moderation tasks. In fact the best thing you can offer a mod is some active high rep users that do things like VTC, VTD, edit, tag etc
@Caleb I dont think that's what he was suggesting. I think the problem is that some of the mods that we have now aren't active in the community and at least one is just plain inactive.
@MarkM That's fine, but the chat I replied to was about activity as far as answering. Mods that answer questions are in some senses doing so with their hands tied. Of course they should be answering, but their activity is better judged by their participation in meta/chat etc than by their answer rep.
@Iain There is a lot of freedom in not having a diamond. It allows you to have and express an opinion that doesn't get automatically bound to everybody else. Take the simple one of closing questions: that is supposed to be a community thing. The moderator is a human exception handler that shouldn't be responsible for all the decision making, but when your most active answerer has a diamond and they start closing things with the mod-hammer, people start taking it wrong.
Then they have to spend their whole life explaining themselves, then they aren't your top answerer any more.
I'm not saying SF might not need some new mods, particularly if the flag load is up and flags aren't getting handled or if the mods are not tracking the community.
I'm just warning that the argument that mods should be heavily involved as answerers can backfire, most sites struggle with the hickups that come from the other direction.
The point here is that we want mods who do it all (like Chopper3). We want them to answer questions, give out helpful comments, participate in the chat and on meta, and moderate the site. This is why we think that we need more mods, instead of a few who doesn't do anything other than respond to flag alerts
1. Factual Knowledge, 2. Strong opinion with admittance of potential misunderstanding, 3. defer to someone else who clearly has more knowledge, but before all that I decide if the person asking the question has put any effort in.
I do try and steer people in the right direction though, if my time permits. I enjoy participating here.
@Caleb for example. I had a flag that was dismissed a couple of days ago for no apparent reason. I asked on meta about it. I'm still without an answer two days later. That's just not acceptable to me.
If a mod can't take, literally, two minutes to explain to me what mistake I made in flagging, then that person shouldn't be dismissing flags.
It's not like m.sf is a super busy place either. A busy day there is 4 posts.
@Chopper3 Already read it.. I understand the answer, but it still doesnt answer my question.. is it OK to have mods who doesnt participate at all other than responding to flag alerts?
@Chopper3 Thing is, new users (on SO at least), get shown the FaQ and a checkbox to say that they've read it. You mean something like a "proceed to ask" box that is actually grayed out until the say "yes, I understand".
Even better (but probably not quite fair) would be to have a semi-technical question that they have to answer before being able to ask. Even if it's instantly Google-able it shows that they can use google and research something.
@tombull89 To be honest, a question that was deliberately instantly Googleable (I.e., you copy and paste it into Google and get the exact answer) would be enough for most..!
@pauska That'd be brill - for the answer to be straight back at SF :D
It's a tough line - I don't believe there's anything inherently wrong with 'simple' questions, because it's often a case of "Easy if you know how." It's the badly formatted, ill thought out, half arsed question that irritate me!
This is what I think of you guys (strictly platonically speaking) : (sqrt(cos(x))*cos(200 x)+sqrt(abs(x))-0.7)*(4-x*x)^0.01, sqrt(9-x^2), -sqrt(9-x^2) from -4.5 to 4.5
@Chopper3 - I tried turtle-slaughter but their tiny screams pale into insignificance compared to the blood-curdling wail of a half-mangled kitty. You scare me sometimes.
H all, sorry to interrupt... is this question from security.se on topic on SF? Not a mod (just a regular) on security, but wanted to check as we weren't sure between you and webmasters?
Yeah... That could go either way. I think if it goes to SF he's going to get general configuration management solutions... Webmasters might have better ideas as to something simple.
